BOYS SOCCER PLAYOFFS: Mountain View does it again, beats La Canada 2-0; Claremont advances, Damien, La Puente, Diamond Bar, Sierra Vista and Diamond Ranch lose

Update on Quarterfinal Schedule
Thursday’s games

Division 2
Claremont at La Sierra, 3 p.m.
Division 5
Mountain View at Lakeside, 3 p.m.

By Miguel A. Melendez Staff Writer
It’s usually the La Caada High School boys soccer team that keeps teams on its heels.

Mountain View flipped the script on Tuesday.

The visiting Vikings, mounting constant pressure, made a set piece and attack down the wing count in a 2-0 victory in the second round of the CIF-Southern Section Division 5 playoffs.

Mountain View (13-4-5) lost the coin flip and will be on the road and face the Lakeside-Paso Robles winner.

La Caada (14-6-5) bows out of the playoffs in the second round for the third consecutive season. The Spartans’ season practically came in full circle. The teams previously tied 1-1 in the season opener. In that game, the Vikings also were dominant and finished with a 23-3 advantage in shots. (To continue click thread)

TUESDAY’S BOYS SOCCER RESULTS
Division 2
Claremont 3, Sunny Hills 0
Valley View 1, Damien 0, OT
Division 4
El Rancho 2, Diamond Ranch 1
Cathedral 3, La Puente 0
Crescenta Valley 1, Diamond Bar 0
Salesian 3, Sierra Vista 2
Division 5
Mountain View 2, La Canada 0

Mountain View wasn’t as dominant this time, but it came close.

The attack was constant throughout and it paid dividends in the 22nd minute when Ricardo Diaz connected on a header off Alan Miranda’s free kick. Diaz, who was unmarked, connected near the goal post and caught La Caada sophomore goalkeeper Graham Labran-Boyd out of position. By the time he turned to make a save attempt it was too late.

“Just mistakes and letting kids get unmarked,” first-year La Caada coach Alex Harrison said. “(Labran-Boyd) couldn’t turn in time to get to the play, but that’s youth as well.”
The Spartans built some momentum early in the second half, but it dissipated almost as quickly as they got it going after the Vikings’ Jesus Mariscal broke free. His shot was virtually uncontested from 18 yards and deflected off the goal past and into the net for a 2-0 lead in the 47th minute.

La Caada’s Armand Bagramyan, a junior forward with 23 goals and 15 assists, was kept in check. He faced a swarm of defenders whenever he took possession. The Spartans’ best chance came in the 46th minute after a free kick. But Garrett Apel’s shot attempt from 40 yards went just wide of the net. In the 76th minute, Bagramyan’s free kick sailed just over the cross bar.

“We knew who to mark,” Mountain View’s Carlos Zarate said. “We used that to defend their tactics. We knew (Bagramyan) was the most dangerous player on the field.”
Zarate and Mariscal proved to be constant threats from the wing, and their deft ball-handling tested Labran-Boyd. The young keeper got help from Joseph Kim, Aidan Tourani and Jonas Dehmel, all of whom helped clear shot attempts.

In short, the pressure was on.

“We kept a lot of possession,” Mountain View coach Felipe Corona said.

It was tough for La Caada to push forward without senior midfielder Zaki Khan and freshman forward Juan Carrasquero. Khan was limited to a few set pieces because of lingering ankle injuries and Carrasquero tore his left anterior cruciate ligament in the first 10 minutes of a first-round match. With the Spartans’ experience, size and speed missing, the Vikings pounced by making constant substitutions.

“We gave away the middle of the field all day long,” Harrison said. “(Khan) is good at winning the ball and works for every loose ball. Not only that, he’s 180 pounds. If he can’t get the ball he slows you down with his body. He has size in there that we just don’t have.

“Mentally, they’re nervous. They have 35 guys on their roster and have guy after guy they can put in. It’s tough.”

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  • fljhlhlkwrgb

    What time does South play?.. Oh wait………

  • kate

    What about #1 seeded Cajon and Monrovia?? Are you aware that South Pasadena is also playing today??

  • Fred Robledo

    Yes Kate, I’m aware of that, however those are Star-News teams, look on Miguel Melendez’s blog….

  • soccerfan

    Just a friendly FYI fred … salesian plays sierra vista @ 5:30 not at 3…

  • Fred Robledo

    Soccer fan, are you serious, I was going to head over to that game and go to Glendora later…oh well…

  • soccerfan

    Yea im serious Fred… Should be a great game

  • kate

    Sorry Fred! I think Miguel has no interest in any team besides La Canada. You had a few posts regarding our league teams so I thought you might report on our games… Good luck to all teams in the area today…

  • OIlerfan

    Montebello Lost 2-0 to Milliken. One goal came in the last minute. Montebello could have scored early but missed a break away in the first 10 mins of the game. HArd fought game.

  • Rick

    We (La Puente) lost to a very solid and talented Cathedral team. Mistakes are part of the game and with a team like that you can’t make to many mistakes. Our strength is our offense. But to many easy misses can’t miss. I have advise for Cathedral,
    you cannot have a fans, players and especially the coach behaving the way they did. I can’t believe this is a Catholic school. Even the parent in the stands were being very vulger and disrespetful.

  • Rick

    Again they are a very solid team. They deserve the win. Which brings me to my point. How is it that these private schools are allowed to play against public schools? They are allowed to recruit every top player around. I don’t blame the parents for putting there kids in the best possible opportunity to succeed. So I pose the question, what is the board of directors of C.I.F thinking when they pair up the divisions. How can we compete? Then allow us the same opportunities that the private schools have. Otherwise change things.

  • Rick

    I think that schools like Salesian, Oaks Christian and Cathedral should be placed in the top three divisions where they deserve to be. How can you as a coach convince yourself that you should be proud of your accomplishments. You are handed the top players around. I wouldn’t be. But that’s just me I guess. The El Ranchos of the world who have around 3,000 students compared to smaller schools with arounf 1500 students. They also if they honestly look at themselves know they deserve to play with the big boys. What you think that they just happen to have great teams every year out of luck? Think about it coaches. And as for everyone responding to the blogs. Lets have interesting and meaningful discusions and try to be insightful.

  • Rick

    Good luck to the remaining teams.

  • ex high school player and current college player

    Here we go again with the private vs. public school drama. Just leave it alone for once.. its should not be an excuse everytime a public school loses. I played for a public school all four years and loved it. My favorite games were always up against privates because that’s when we played the best. Whether they have good players or not, we should remember there at 11 players on both sides of the field.. today I watched the Salesian vs Sierra Vista game and I can guarantee you that Salesian was fought hard. It was not easy for them to get that win. Why take away the pride that SV had for the way they played by giving them an excuse as to Dalesian should be in a higher division??? I believe it takes away all the hard work they put into that game and their season. Quit crying about divisions. Whether your in Div 7 or Div 1, a championship is a championship.

  • Phantom Fan

    To Rick, I admit We had 1 fan who was out of control, but La Puente had dirty players with cheap shots at Cathedral Players. That’s why Coach Artie was Upset. I live in West Covina and the Montview League is Very Weak. We killed La Puente In Football back in the 2003 Playoffs. La Puente were League Champs and Cathedral was a 3rd place team Behing Crespi and Serra. A few year’s ago Cathedral was an at large team in Water polo and won the League. Guess what La Puente Cried back then to the CIF saying Cathedral was too strong. Lose like a man and stop crying Rick. On the Salesian thing, they bring in ringers and let anybody into that School. Check their Green Cards.

  • Soccer Fan

    To Rick Cathedral has 740 Kids. Salesian has 420 but again they have been winning becase they have been playing in a small School Division and let anybody in and it’s an easy School Academically to get into. Don’t let that Catholic School BS get to you. Some Catholic Schools have Integrity like Cathedral.

  • rick

    Remember all of you that write in this blog. We are not two kids throwing mud at each other. I like the well thought out comments that some of you make. It’s these others that just speak from there emotions that sometimes sounds like your thinking as a hommer. I understand that we love the sport with passion. But have a thoughtful comment. We don’t have to always have to pound our chest like a gorrila. For that comment about playing against the best, fine remember whatb I posted earlier. Than that goes for those private schools aswell. Play the best.

  • rick

    As for that other comment about the amount of students these private schools have. Let me educate you a little on how it works. Because you made a general statement that wasn’t followed up with proof. It’s a small school but, YOU CAN RECRUIT! You can have 50 student. You can still recruit.And they do very well. If I had a school that offers me the opportunity that these great private schools have, and my son was a promising player, where do you thing I would send him. I am speaking in behalf of the schools that try to compete.

  • Wow

    Wow. Nice of Phantom Fan to bring some racism into the discussion. That must be the Cathedral “integrity” that Soccer Fan wrote about!

    Phantom Fan – As an educator with over twenty years of experience at three different public and private schools in Southern California, I can tell you that virtually EVERY school in the Los Angeles area has undocumented students. I would think that Catholic schools like Salesian and Cathedral would be proud of the historical mission of the Church to serve marginalized populations. Check with the Vatican, social justice is one of the tenets of your faith!

    I agree with Rick’s wish that posters could stick to a reasonable discussion of the issues involved with this debate about high school soccer. Why Cathedral fans feel better about themselves by trashing others, especially with racist comments, is beyond me.

  • rick

    After seeing both El Rancho and Cathedral I will simply tell you this. Cathedral is deep. They made substitutions ever 15min. And didn’t miss a beat. For all of those who don’t know what that that means. It means that they are deep. That#8 is incredible. Not to mention that small forward. Just so that you all understand that I speak from my sound reasoning and not from emotion. Remember this, Cathedral I believe will win C.I.F. Only thing that you have to remember. You are a Catholic school. And everything that we do as believers will always be under the microscope. Lets win with class and don’t be one of those schools that everyone wants to have loose because of your behavior, including the fans.

  • rick

    By the way Cathedral if this helps. The two teams you might face in the next round, we played in C.I.F. We beat Burroughs and lost to Santa Monica in pk’s last year. Burroughs plays very well Never quit and we beat them 3-1. Santa Monica had a lot of Anglo players which were, and I’m not kidding an average of 6’2 and one was 6’4 They were fast, hard hitting. But the way you played us, keeping the ball awya and that great touch, you should prevaile. Keep it on the ground. You guys didn’t do what Serrano H.S. did. which was win every ball in the air. Good luck.

  • theranch

    The Ranch will repeat as D4 Champ… 24-0 for a reason…

  • Reality

    Here we go again with the overdone public/private discussion.

    Let’s consider the facts rather than the emotions:

    1) Not including Division VII which is almost entirely made up of private schools, there were 8 games between privates and publics yesterday. The privates went 5-3. Most of the games were one goal games. Hardly domination.

    2) Of the 48 teams still alive in those divisions, 41 are public schools. That’s 85%! In several divisions, all 8 quarterfinalists are public schools!

    3) Some private schools seem to do well every year in the playoffs (Loyola, St. Francis, Salesian to name a few). Some public schools also seem to do well every year (Millikan, Paramount, Mountain View). And the flip side is also true, there are some private schools and public schools that NEVER even make the playoffs. So the public or private nature of the schools is not what makes the difference. Quality coaching, talented and hard working student-athletes, playoff tradition and experience, and a little luck here and there matter much more!

    In fact, considering the data from above, it appears that the public schools have the advantage this year!

  • rick

    I will answer your question. Your stats aren’t well thought out. You hide the fact that not every private school is soccer oriented. It’s those who specifically recruit for soccer. Come on! I have been involved through my whole life in soccer. From attending Fuercas Basicas for Pachuca, Atlas and America. From meeting Hugo Sanchez, Pele, Yohan Cruyff and Pony Ruiz. From being in the dressing rooms at the Coloseum to talk to great players. From playing with a National Champion at a semi pro league. Being at countless Southern California FIFA meetings. I understand how things work.

  • rick

    You see, this is not a players issue. This is a on going political issue with C.I.F. Players will play where they are asked to. I am arguing from a coaches perspective. I apologize to those of you who just want to argue for just the sake of arguing. This is more complex than you think. At the end. It is what it is. Life isn’t perfect, we all know it. But it doesn’t mean you don’t try to correct some things.

  • Reality

    Come on Rick. Six of the seven champions on the boys side last year were public schools! The CIF has spread the large public schools throughout six of the seven divisions! Any advantage you ascribe to private schools for “recruiting” is surely mitigated by talent pools that are some times five times larger at the public schools.

    And about the “recruiting” charge that is so often thrown at the private schools: You say you’ve been around long enough to know how the system works. So surely you must know that certain public schools “recruit” in much the same way you claim private schools do. Lots of kids in public schools get intra-district transfers or use the address of a relative in the district to attend that school. It’s not just a coincidence that so much of the football talent in Long Beach ends up at Long Beach Poly…or the soccer talent in Long Beach ends up at Millikan…or the soccer talent in Downey ends up at Warren….and on and on and on.

    The answer is the same for public and private schools. Run quality programs and offer quality educations. The talent will then show up in droves. No need to “recruit”.

  • rick

    As for your comment about Mountain View. Even the coach, a few years back on the Tribune made the same comments I have made. Don’t try to put down the hard work, dedication and the hunger that coaches and players do. There are plenty of coaches that coach great teams. Yet the coach doesn’t know how to kick a ball. What happened with Mountain View? Well they were dropped back down to Division 5. And the rest is history. Do some home work and look up that story on the Tribune. I am not the only one who feels this way. I have been arguing this for years before I got involved in High School Soccer. Yesterday just confirms my point.

  • rick

    You are right about large schools. As for recruiting, you are right. I coached Nogales Varsity Softball for the past 2 years. South Hills does the very same thing you talk about in soccer, baseball and football. Lets just call it what it is. It’s win at any cost.

  • rick

    I like your points. We don’t have to relate to irrational arguing. Let’s just say that we agree to dis agree. Soon the blog will be filled with fist pumping. I guess that’s ok at times.

  • Fred Robledo

    I have more of a problem with public vs. private in basketball than I do in soccer. In basketball, one or two blue chippers from private schools can lead to wins by 60 or 70 points, which we’ve seen and is completely unfair, just ask Workman girls basketball, who had their best player in history and one of their best years, and had to play Windward, No. 2 in the nation, in the second round, beating the Lobos by nearly 60. In soccer, private’s have an edge, but not that big an edge. In those Baldwin Park-Salesian games, they were close and like in any game, it comes down to who finishes chances, and Salesian got the better of the Braves. Look at yesterday, Sierra Vista went toe-to-toe with Salesian, losing in the dying minutes of extra time, 3-2. The private’s are there to be beat. The parity in soccer is so close the advantage private’s have is not that great or worth the excuses public teams make. We’ve seen Baldwin Park, El Rancho, Mountain View and Claremont win titles in recent years, so I wouldn’t make as big a deal over public and private as I would in other sports where there is a clear difference.

  • rick

    Fred, then truly align them the way they should. By size and recruiting. Do you not know the heavy recruiting that is being made? Then lets not have divisions. Tell me what divisions are for? The name is self explanatory Fred. Yes, public schools win. What is there size? Look back at how many small schools win vs. bigger schools. I thought that divisions were decided by size and over all strength of leagues. The simple fact that we are restricted from recruiting legitimately should exclude us from playing private schools. Do you see my point? I know we can’t recruit because of then the it would creat hell for the schools.

  • rick

    That is the bases for my argument. There is an unfair advantage. C.I.F. says it stands for an equal opportunity. I don’t know when they lost sight of there principles. For once correct them. Just like the argument for college playoffs. you know they make sense. Yet some how the NCAA won’t listen. Someone has to change things. I as a coach will strongly argue the point to C.I.F. I will take the initiative that I many years ago talked to you about. I will get support from enough coaches to get there attention. It’s a long battle, but my past experiences with SO.Cal FIFA will come in handy.

  • x

    Woah rick, get your facts straight. The mountain view coach never made comments like that. In fact, in the two years they repeated as champs they beat 3 privates in each year of the playoffs. They won their way into division 5. I believe you Meant the Baldwin park coach. But even then he made those comments because he was tired of losing to salesian every year. Salesian is just one of those few schools that are really good. So salesian got moved up. Soccers fine. Basketball on the other hand way out of line with teams from the same league in different divisions, league champions getting embarrassed in the first round, privates dominating. Its a mess.

  • rick

    Your right, the won there titles inn division 6. There argument, with good reason was based on facing those well adjusted and heavily recruiting Salesian schools. The argument remains the same. Big schools and private.

  • rick

    If you continually win and go deep into the playoffs. And win C.I.F. you should move on to the next level.

  • x

    That’s how it works. Mountain view won two championships, they carry the league into the next division. The desert valley constantly had semi finalists and finalists so they move up. Salesian won their championships they move up. The del Rey league shows strength for a couple years they’re up. In a couple of years they’ll be more movement. And this private vs public debate will be over.

  • Reality

    There are problems with the current soccer system for sure:
    1) If one team does well for several years, it pulls its entire league up to the higher division. The smaller/weaker schools in that league then get creamed in the playoffs in the higher division. Watch. El Rancho will rightly be moved to a higher division after this year. But the rest of the teams in that league will go to…even though they can’t even do well in Division IV now. Salesian was rightly moved up to Division IV. But the rest of the teams in that league…I think mostly small Catholic schools, can not compete in Division IV! So how is the current system fair in this respect?

    2) The CIF-SS participates in the SoCal Regional Tournament which is run by the State CIF. The State divisions are based purely on enrollment…no strength of program/league considerations taken into account. Most other sections in the state follow the same formula for their divisions (enrollment only).

    So the CIF-SS uses a hybrid system to feed into a State enrollment only division. As a result, some teams are screwed. For example, JSerra, is usually right on the borderline of the State Division II or III figure. But they play in CIF-SS Division I. Because they have gotten knocked out of the CIF-SS Division I tournament in early rounds, they never make the state tournament. BUT they are definitely one of the strongest small school programs in the state!

  • rick

    Keep the bigger and private schools in the top divisions. Why do you fight the argument. Don’t want the best to play the best? I would love to see Santa Ana High School play Salesian. I would love to see Capistrano Valley play El Rancho. That is ultimate high level soccer. Isn’t that the cream of the crop.
    Again, it’s the desparity. Of talent. Wether it’s through private school recruiting or size of school. I remind you top to bottom there is depth in these schools that public schools can’t compete with. DEPTH!!!!!! How can you feel your superiority when you know what you have. Play the big boys, then come and talk to me.

  • rick

    To your point, It’s very difficult to make sense of everything. I understand that somethings can’t completely chance. But can be adjusted. C.I.F has, supposedly competent people running things. This is not for the present. These changes would work for future programs. Someone has to sacrifice the present in order to make thins better for the future programs. Not to many of us including politicians are willing to make immediate sacrifices. It’s all about what’s in it for me. At the Present time our society is a me driven one.

  • Phantom Fan

    Hey Rick I got carried away and I apologize to you. La Puente is a Very Good team and good luck to them in the future. Hey rick you seem to know alot about Soccer in general and thank’s for the kind words. I hope the phantoms can go on. You are right about School’s in wrong divisions because of enrollment. We are ok where We belong D4. I will give you an example in Basketball,Verbum Dei,Price,La Verne Luthern,win in a small school’s division but can bring in 6’10 D1 type kids to win. The CIF has to fix something. Good Luck to La Puente.

  • rick

    Just to let you know, the Santa Monica coach called me and asked me for advice and how he could beat you and also asked me if you had any weaknesses. I told him there were none. When you guys made substitutions every 15 minutes, you didn’t miss a beat. Your team is deep. I say the El Rancho vs. Duarte game on tape again, and they just don’t have that touch, hunger, or what I saw before our game with you. In your warm ups you were pumped, confident and very vocal. Those are the ingredients
    and formula for a C.I.F championship.

  • rick

    Don’t get upset El Rancho fans. This is not a comment to rile you up or start a heated argument.
    I also saw the Diamond Ranch vs. El Rancho game on film last night. From a coaches perspective, not as a fans perspective. Something just doesn’t feel right. I hope for your sale that I am wrong. I would love to see El Rancho play Cathedral to advance to the championship game. I give the edge to Cathedral. They just look more complete and ready to claim the title. Good look to both of you. You both have tough Games. Cathedral you will have to contend with Santa Monica’s size. If they have what I saw last year when we lost to them in PK’s

  • Rick

    If someone is keeping track of the games that Cathedral and El Rancho are playing, please keep me posted. I would love to see a Cathedral vs El Rancho game next Tuesday. I will attend that game if it happens. I would love to see that match up. There would be fireworks!
    Someone keep me posted on scores. Thanks.

  • Phantom Fan

    Hey Rick the Phantoms just won 1-0 in Overtime to beat Santa Monica. Next Semi- Final game will be at Cathedral Tuesday 3 or 5pm. Good luck to all teams.

  • Rick

    I really believe that the winner of Tuesday’s game will win C.I.F. The edge to Cathedral.

  • Soccer D4

    I believe Cathedral is hungrier than Rancho and will win tomorrow. They have been Quater-Finalists 2010, and 2011. They won the Nike Elite Tourny in Oceanside in 2010 and were finalists in 2011. They are one of only 4 teams in all divisions to have shut outs in every playoff game. They have LOTS of depth, talented offense and defense. We will have to wait and see that hell of a game tomorrow!