We’ve been saying it all year, Division 4AA is completely unfair, read on…

Great story by the L.A. Times’ Eric Sondheimer on the the unfairness of the CIF-Southern Section boys and girls 4AA Division, where public schools are getting demolished by state powers. Glendora coach Mike LeDuc says the system is not perfect, but it’s the best they can do.

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  • What to do?

    I have never been nor will I ever be a fan of CIF, but I think the formula they are using is about as good or fair as they can get. I would love to hear some alternatives?

  • Fred Robledo

    Alternative No. 1 — Teams from the same league should compete in the same playoff divisions.

  • Robbie

    I agree, how does a team you p,ay either jump or down in division? Tis not a good system when small schools, Webb soccer plays Rancho Mirage. How good are the big schools agains big schools?

  • Ok Fred, but…

    What about Lutheran with no league? It is weird that virtually every team in the Sierra League are in different divisions, but putting them all in same division based on league affiliation only doesn’t seem like the best option

  • Common sense

    Fred, I agree with you that teams in the same league should compete in the same division of CIF. But because leagues are assembled based on football strengths it is difficult to be fair when considering basketball. My idea is that CIF should make separate leagues for Fall sports (based on football strength), Winter sports (based on basketball strength) and Spring sports based on Baseball strength) all other sports would fall in line with what ever time of year they participate. All teams within the same league would then play within the same division of CIF. With this type of formula CIF could reduce the number of at-large teams and no teams from the bottom half of a league would make the playoffs. In addition to this CIF could reduce the number of divisions from 12 to about 7 or 8. With the current system we have, far too many teams make the playoffs. Of the roughly 550 teams in the Southern Section 384 teams make the playoffs, which is far too high of a percentage of teams.

  • Supporter.

    How can a girls basketball team play in division 3 and the soccer team plays in division 7 for the same school? That’s the way it is for some Mission Valley League teams. You can guess the results of the basketball, another second round loss, although Arroyo and Rosemead both also lost in girls soccer today in the second round. Either base it on enrollment for all sports or the formula for all sports.