When the PrepXtra Preview Magazine debuts on Aug. 29, Bishop Amat will start the season No. 1

Sneak Peak: The PrepXtra Football Preview Magazine will be in home delivery and news racks on Thursday, Aug. 29, the same night as the Smudge Pot between Bonita and San Dimas at Citrus College. You can also pick up a PrepXtra Preview magazine at the Smudge Pot game, just look for the SGVN PrepXtra booth. There’s loads of content in the magazine, but until then, why not give you a sneak peak at the top ten compiled by Aram Tolegian. There will be more info on the teams when the magazine debuts, but you can start discussing the rankings now.

amatready1. BISHOP AMAT: The Lancers will welcome several Super Sophs to the varsity level this season. Their ability to contribute right away will be key early on. The parts are there for an explosive offense. The defense should be faster in the back seven. There’s no reason why Amat can’t win the Serra League and get over the first-round hump in the playoffs.

2. CHINO HILLS: The Huskies look like a good bet to get back on top in the Sierra. There’s talent from top to bottom and enough size to hang with just about anybody. Games against Bishop Amat and Charter Oak should tell the tale of the season.

3. CHARTER OAK: Two years ago, Charter Oak had the top offense in the area. Last year, it had the top defense. This year there’s no clear identity established as of yet, just a good core group of players for veteran head coach Lou Farrar to build around. At some point, this team figures to be very formidable again.

4. LOS ALTOS: The Conquerors allowed just 20 points per game last season. Another defensive effort like that combined with an experience offense would lead to a solid rise in the wins column. Remember, LA beat West Covina last season and lost come close games to solid teams. This is your area surprise team.

5. SOUTH HILLS: Albert “Fuzz” Rodriguez got things turned around in his first season as head coach. With league and likely division relief in the near future, the program has some serious momentum heading into this season. If the line play is still solid, the wins should follow. To be safe, expect something right around last year’s accomplishments.

6. WEST COVINA: Quarterback has generally been a caretaker position at West Covina, but you no longer can have the type of postseason Bulldogs desire in the rugged Southeast Division without at least competent QB production. This team is still loaded with talent and potential, and could make this ranking look like a joke if things break right.

7. DIAMOND BAR: There’s no reason Diamond Bar won’t be in the thick of the Hacienda League race. At times, they’ll make opposing defenses look stupid. At other times, they won’t be able to get off the field against the better ground games. Depth is an issues, but D-Bar stays healthy, it’ll be in the playoffs.

8.SAN DIMAS: It’s hard not to still like San Dimas in the Valle Vista League. There’s still plenty of talent on both offense and defense, and the rest of the league has a large gap to close. Whether San Dimas can make its usual deep run in the playoffs looks murky. Don’t expect 11 wins like last season.

9. DIAMOND RANCH: This has the looks of one of the area’s sleeper teams. The Hacienda figures to be another crap shoot. There’s no reason why D-Ranch can’t win it all. The Panthers have arguably the league’s top talent in defensive lineman Kammy Delp and a home-run hitter in Bryan at running back. If there’s a threat of a pass game, watch out.

10. BONITA: Bonita lost its final three games of the season last year by a combined five points. One of the losses cost the Bearcats a league title and the other sent them packing from the postseason. Expect the defense to be better and the offense to be the same or slightly worse. It all adds up to another season in the thick of the Hacienda race and maybe more.

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  • SGV FB Dad

    I think Diamond Ranch and Bonita will both beat DBar again this season. You are giving DB too much respect, when they haven’t gotten over the hump in the last few years. DRanch owns them.
    Chino Hills is the real deal this year. I think they will lose to Amat at Amat, but the game will be close, very close. Charter Oak is the real question. I think they lost too much and will be the third place team in the Sierra. I like South Hills to beat CO this season.
    Los Altos will win the Hacienda, with DR second, and WC third.

    • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

      You obviously didnt watch the season last yr! DB beat Bonita last yr! For somebody who cant get the facts straight you sure DO have a strong opinion!

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        I was at that game last year. I saw some interesting things. I left scratching my head. Bonita did not want to run their all everything back Turner, and they kept throwing. If they would have run, the game was over. When I saw Broadus line up at rush end, I started wonder…Does DB have any lineman? Why isn’t Bonita exploiting that and running right at him? Just strange playing calling. It was a game that no one wanted to win. The only ranking i would switch is DRanch and SD. I think Dbar can score with anyone, but are very thin upfront. Honestly, I would rank Glendora over Bonita…I just don’t like Bonita’s, he is just not a gamer. With a beastly running game he just Killed their season, and with Verdugo gone…he is not going to pick anyone apart.

        • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

          Well. whatever happens, i think the Hacienda is gonna be exciting to watch for sure! I still think DR and WC will be trademark programs….basically , i dont think they will have dropped off much as many think.

      • SGV FB Dad

        If you read my comment, I said Diamond Ranch owns them not Bonita. I did mistakenly say Bonita beat them last year, but I know they beat Bonita, just an innocent mistake. But I never said Bonita would even make the playoffs this year champ. I said Los Altos wins it, DRanch takes second, and WestCo takes third. Dbar fights for fourth against Bonita and Rowland. No need to get too upset buddy, this is just my opinion. Serenity Now !

        • Rowland Raider

          Come on guy no love for Rowland! Rowland still has a great line & didn’t lose to much from graduation last year.. Still has one
          of the top Running Backs..

  • GP AKA Green Machine

    These rankings look spot on.
    1BA- Experience is going to be the key. Their Serra league chances lie on this young group growing up Fast. I am not sure if their preseason mimics what they will see in league. If they can stay healthy, keep their confidence, and get better week by week, they could end up 2nd place in league. That would give them a fighting chance to win a first round game. I think experience is going to play a factor in a close Serra league loss. There is nowhere to hide in the Pac 5.

    2 CHills-This is my Sierra league sleeper. Being the only true inland program in that league, I think they have withstood the CO era, and are back in position to reclaim that league. They should be deeper and more experienced this year. Line has never been an Issue, when it came to losing to CO, it’s the skills players that made the difference. They are not the clear cut favorites, but we will see.

    3 CO- Great staff, but lost a lot talent to graduation. The will have to be on the look out vs CHills and SHills. This might be the first year a in while where CO does not have the best athletes in league.The Chargers have a formidable preseason which could add or reduce confidence depending on the outcome. They do not expect to go far in the Inland and may be reorganizing for a run next year in the South East.

    4.LA- They are returning one of the best lines in the area, and have great talent. Good place to start, but they will have to win the Hacienda in order to hold on to this spot.

    5. South Hills is improved and wants a piece of the Sierra…can they upset CH or CO? Can they beat them both? The verdict is still out, and we will see what they look like going into league.

    6. With the loss of Noodles, I think westco is not as strong as they could be. They have talent, but no QB….Noodles was that guy. It looks like they should have handed him the starting QB spot along with anything else he wanted play. I think they finish 3rd in Hacienda

    7DBar- With Noodles, I think they would be fab, but with out him, they have another whole in the secondary, and I just have not heard much about their line… you need lineman. Do they have them ?

    8SD- There is a lot of Drama going on over there, and this is a bad year to have that. Their preseason is tough, and they could easily lose the smudge pot, Monrovia game, and others. If Coach Z gets in trouble, watch out, they could lose to Covina come league.

    9Dranch-Should be #8, but they could climb the charts and end up Hacienda Champs. They do have weapons and D1 Talent

    10Bonita- Deibold is the key. If he is on, they could do some damage. If he is off, they may not make the playoffs…

    • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

      I actually think your rankings are pretty fair and accurate considering the question marks…Lets see how it unfolds! BUT this idiot below cant even get his facts straight!

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      Good job GP!

    • Highlander

      Last night SD went toe to toe with DR with out their Qb and starting FB on offense and a few key DL as well. If you were keeping score the undersized SD team actually won 7-0. With out Payton it looks like they will be a more FB/Wingback driven team. Smudge pot just got a little more interesting, didn’t it!

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    Fred, a few weeks ago you posted the games of the week. I’m not sure how Charter Oak, who lost almost 30 seniors to graduation can be a game of the week against Bishop Amat. I would think a game of the week is Chino Hills vs Bishop Amat. These two teams battled to a 48-48 tie in one of the most exciting high school games of the year. I’m not excepting the same display of offensive firepower, but I’m guessing it’s going to be another good game.

    I couldn’t post this there because the comments were closed.

    With Noodles leaving West Co, who becomes their QB? Are they experienced and talented enough to keep them competitive?

    • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

      I think for WC , finding a QB comes down to finding a kid who does “just” enough, dont think there will be a need for him to be spectacular.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        I hope they’ve found one by now. lol. But a good game manager I can see.

        • Bulldogs have bite

          It appears senior Henry Tarin will be our QB this season. He is backed up by two sophomores; Drew Gomez , who led the Freshman team last year to a 9-1 record, their only loss was to Loyola. The other sophomore QB is Isaiah Bravo, I do not know anything about this kid.

          Henry was the JV starting QB last season, he led the JV team to an 8-2 record, with losses to Loyola and Chino Hills. He also dressed for Varsity games as the third string QB behind Jon Najera and Antonio Hull. With Najera oft injured last season, he got some experience backing up Hull. When Najera went down to injury in the 1st round of CIF against Paramount, Henry started his first game in the quarter finals of the CIF playoffs with a victory over Muir. Hull at the time was primarily being used at RB due to our other options being out to either injury or academics. He also started the semi final game in a season ending loss to La Serna. We do not need our QB’s to throw all over the field, if they can sell the play action pass and hit their open targets a few times a game we should be good.

          • Not So Fast My Friend

            Bulldog, thank you for the info my friend.

          • BB

            Isaiah Bravo is a 6’2 Sophomore with Kurt Warner like accuracy and toughness. He was a freshman at South Hills last year and Played in only 6 quarters at QB but led the team in touchdown passes. He in his one start against Bonita he threw for over 350 yards. The coaching staff liked the other kid, who was a very fast runner ( not a QB )
            and ended up losing every game but one.

          • Bulldogs have bite

            Thank’s for the info on him BB. Sounds like he has good size for a sophomore!

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        The QB hasn’t had to be spectacular because the RB’s were. Are the RB’s spectacular enough to continue with a game managing QB? If the RB’s are not, they are going to need the QB to make a few more plays…

        • Bulldogs have bite

          We have a couple returning RB’s in Deshon Love and Josh Best. Both have the athletic ability and potential to be some of the best backs in the Valley. They are both seniors this year and have yet to live up to their potential due to injury setbacks the last couple of seasons. I pray they both stay healthy this year and live up not only to our expectations, but the expectations they have set for themselves! We also have Steven Garcia who transfered in from San Gabriel, he looks ready for some carries. Another returning RB is senior David Ford, he did not get many carries last season, but when he did get the rock, he made them count! Ford will be a star on defense this year. Coming up from the frosh team will be Isiah Love, the younger brother of Deshon. I think he may be the first freshman to score a TD in a CIF playoff game(1st round, Paramount) for West Covina.This kid is a stud, nuff said. Another sophomore who may see some time at fullback will be Hunter Rey, he is a load at 5’9″ 245 lbs! Hunter is also a very mobile and agile middle linebacker! This year is very reminiscent of 2010, we did not know who would pick up the torch after Ricky Johnson graduated, then boom! Solomon and BJ Lee made names for themselves. Speaking of Beejay Lee, he was 2013′s Pac-12 100M sprint champion for USC this year!

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Best is a weapon. The Loves are talented, and they younger Love should be a great addition to the stable of backs. He was a star on the Dhawks team along with Cameron Johnson and Marquez at Monrovia. Hunter is going to have to trim down some. I believe the system at west co is very good. However, in the past they were able to run the ball on 3rd and long and score lol. They had 3-4 backs who could get the call. I really believe to maintain the standard of making a 2nd round appearance, will depend on the plays the QB makes. Since Love and Best catch ball well and not your typical backs, I would think some variation of the spread, running the zone read would have been the best offense this season. That’s if they had Hull. That could have got them to the semi’s in my opinion.

          • Bulldogs have bite

            There is no way Maggiore is going to run the spread! I think they tried to run the spread way back in ’06 or ’07 and it was a disaster, they went back to the wing-t that same season lol! I still think we can score on 3rd and long this year with the offensive line we have coming back. 4/5 starters returning, and a whole bunch in the rotation with experience. With the injuries we had last year everybody got to play. I still think last season was one of Maggiore’s best coaching jobs ever. No other Southeast team makes it to the semi’s with the injuries we had. We beat Diamond Ranch on the road behind the efforts of a back up gaurd converted to Running Back just for that game for goodness sakes, lol!

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            I guess if it isn’t broke don’t try to fix it, and go for what you know. I was not aware of the injuries. Since that was the case, last year was a great year for them. 4/5 lineman back gives them a better shot then I thought..The Hacienda/South East is much more difficult to bounce back from injuries vs the RHL/Midvalley…if need be Mtown can sit several starters in 4 out of 5 league games and the 1st round of playoffs and still be fine. That’s the main reason why we need to get bumped up to your level.

          • Bulldogs have bite

            The injuries last year was just insane. Best broke his leg in passing league. Najera has a knee injury in a scrim one week before the season opener. Love has a knee injury mid season. Salgado limping around on a tender achilles. Starting center Raul Gomez misses some time, 6’5″ 250 lbs+ Garcia twins go down mid season. We did not have the same starting 5 on the O-line for more than two consecutive games last season. Going 8-5 (7-6*) and a trip to the Semi’s, and even leading at the half against La Serna was just a miracle. I hope we got all the injuries out of the way last year and come back swinging this year! Scrims this Friday!!!!! Yay!!!!!

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Yikes…Then West co if healthy might be fighting for the title, bc I have no faith in La Mirada. La Serna will be a final four team, so will Downey. The other spots are open, but you have to stay healthy…Good Luck to the dawgs this season.

    • GP AKA Green Machine

      The BA vs CO game is going to a great game…Remember BA is young and CO is as well. That game will be Haynes vs Brown….They will the focal point of the match up. It will interesting to see how these staffs coach this one up. BA has the coaching advantage because their coaches see far better teams more often. The winner of that game will be # 1 until they run across CHill then we will see who is the best in the SGV. FYI Scoby paper work is pending and on the CIF Board…drum roll please…

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        lol. drum roll. lol

      • Saints Fan

        drum roll or prayer chants…. hahaha j/k my Western Brother Hope he plays, cuz if you want to be the best, you have to beat the best in the division.

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          Lol, The whole summer I pretended like It didn’t matter if we got him…I lied!!! Come on CIF football Gods! I am thinking more along State Regional and State Championship thoughts. If Monrovia can win the Midvalley, with a 13-1 Record, they will be hosting a regional again. I think we can still make a run to the MV Title with what we have. However with him, that helps our extremely young defensive team this season.

          • Saints Fan

            So true, Jones is a top back in the Division and Valley, the Scobmeister is a top back in the State ! You weren’t foolin’ anyone…. you imagine him coming out of the Wing Z with a full head of steam….. look out! Anyway, we will see which path CIF takes.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            IF cleared, Mtown will have some version of a wing. No way you don’t have Jones and Scoby in the back field at the same time…which way do you go….You would have to watch for both.

          • Saints Fan

            I am not as knowledgeable about teams just outside our area, but I would think that has to be one of the best backfields around if they are both there.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            I would say among the top in socal…

  • Jessie James

    QB Sophmore Bravo from WC is coming from SHHS. I don’t really know more than that but don’t forget you also have QB Sophmore Johnny Barcena and his QB Freshman brother Jojo Barcena. Watch out for that kid! I think the WC coaching staff know they have something in him.

    • Bulldogs have bite

      Thanks for the info Jessie. I’ll be looking out for them this year! I’m still not sure there is any kind of controversy at QB, but it is good to know there is some talent waiting in the wings. I think you have to at least give Tarin his shot due to his experience, unless the talent of the younger QB’s becomes overwhelmingly obvious to not start them instead.

      • Jessie James

        Tarin will take us far and I think Gomez has some fire in him too. I agree that there is no controversy at QB either. WC has so much talent, its hard not to see it on the field. I expect a great season from our school with Frosh, JV, and Varsity.

  • SGV 4 30 Years

    Aram,

    I like your rankings for the most the most part. I only have a couple comments. First I think you have LA to high. They haven’t won enough over the last couple years to earn that kind of a pass. DBar is also to high. You basically handed them a play-off spot. I really don’t see them beating DR or WC. Both of those teams are to physical on the line and will wear them down. I think they will have to get a little lucky to finish 3rd. Bonita and LA will be good teams, and Walnut would love to spoil their season. But we will be glad when it’s game time!!!
    Good Luck to all

    SGV430 OUUUTTT!!!!

    • Valley Athletics

      Walnut always plays DB tough. Always close game .no playoffs for DB .

      • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

        and i guess Walnut will be playing for league title??

        • Valley Athletics

          I was just answering sgv for 30 yrs . The branding iron game is always a tough game . Never said walnut would win . Walnut will probably go 0-10 . But there is always a possibility for an upset with them . Los altos game 2 yrs ago is a good example .

          • SGV 4 30 Years

            The point wasn’t Walnut playing for the league title, that’s not happening. The point was them spoiling Dbar’s season and play-off hopes. The Hacienda is a tough league. You have to come prepared to battle every game.

            SGV430 Ouuuttt!!!

      • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

        I notice you ALWAYS have negative stuff to say about DB! What is your problem with the program?

        • disqus_wD2qThRkJd

          FYI,.just out of curiousity..you seem to be out for blood with those kids!

        • Valley Athletics

          I am not negative on Diamond Bar . I just don’t think they can beat Diamond Ranch , West Covina and Los Altos . They are loaded at the skill position , but need a better D Line and O line.

        • Stephen Carter

          I think he is just realistic! There is NO history of DB beating DR, WC or LA in recent history and that is not about to happen in pads against either of those 3 schools. DB on the other hand, has the MOST talented skilled guys in the Hacienda, but they are no good without a line on either side of the ball. Just my 2 cents

          • xiledsoviet

            DB beat LA in multiple occassions

  • MonkeyWrench

    My take be Chino Hills be ranked way to high. Look what they lost and how it be replaced.They lost a stud in Simko and replaced him with no experience and someone who coudn’t win the job at da U. Also lost a tuff RB/LB core. Da can easily be only da 3rd best team in dare league

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      Surprisingly there may be more team unity this year on CH without him and several of those players that fall under your RB/LB core.

      • MonkeyWrench

        What I be hearing is unity aint there yet. QB only throwing to his bro. Coach not willing to make QB decission cause one qb be his coaches son and other 2 qb transfers be field general trained. Seems like coach be in a little bit of a pickle. Aslo RB/LB core dont be matching last year no mater what you say.

        • OuttaYourMindTrib

          CH doesn’t have a real QB in their entire system. That’s why QB’s are transferring in. The spot is ripe for the picking. A pulse, half a brain, and decent decision making will earn you the job.

          Simko got the call last season to come to CH for that reason. Since he wasn’t wasn’t good enough to play where he played Pop Warner/JAAF, he just hopped around and looked for good recievers to throw to. All Simko needed was a pulse, fair judgement and a reasonable arm last year and he was getting the job at CH. They’ve got NOBODY over there at QB.

        • Not So Fast My Friend

          I didn’t say the RB/LB core was better than last year. I said the team unity may be better without him and several of those RB/LBs. I don’t know anything about a QB throwing to his brother. But I know they have a scrimmage coming up and I’m looking forward to hearing the reviews from the Foothill coaching staff.

          However, what I do know from last year is that given the plus side of Simko’s tangibles, the negative was he had tunnel vision. A few coaches that scouted him last season noticed his tendencies on film to focus on throwing the ball to Austin.

          • betruthful

            Agreed. He had tunnel vision. These 3 that are in the running seem to pass to check down and pass to who is open. If it happens to be a qb to his bro then don’t hate. It means the bro was open. He isn’t the only one passing to this receiver. CH has two solid receivers and a good supporting cast.

        • Not So Fast My Friend

          Here’s what I got from one of Foothill’s coaches. I don’t know who these kids are because there are no rosters up on Maxpreps yet.

          QB: Numbers 6 and 7 played well. No. 17 was ok. Seemed tentative at times. But all were pretty accurate.

          RB: No 28 runs hard and no. 1 is just as nice. Both have good change of direction. No. 1 may be a bigger threat to break the big runs.

          WR: No 2 was the playmaker. Had several big catches. Covered him with three different players and worked all three.

          OLine: Not huge, but physical enough to get the job done. Center snaps over the QBs head can be problematic to them later if they don’t get that corrected.

          DLine: physical. Capable of putting a lot of pressure on the QB. LBs were solid. No 10 is a monster in training.

          DBs: Athletic. No 5 is pretty good. Has good range. No 3 is aggressive and physical. Smacked one of our receivers pretty good.

    • betruthful

      “Stud” cough cough. Had the arm but no running abilities and lack of respect from the team. No clear qb replacement for CH yet. You have “happy feet ” from the U that has always been the back up, you have Osos transfer that has the arm and athleticism but needs confidence, then you have Colony transfer that is a senior who has no experience, has the arm and athleticism but is better used on defense. They are also weak in receivers and O-line.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        From what I’m told they’re not weak at the receiver position. Not as loaded as they were last year, but certainly not weak either.

    • SGV FB Dad

      Monkey man, you obviously don’t know much about the CH team. As a team, this team is better than last year. There is more cohesiveness, and more overall talent. Last year had a few superstars, but this year has a solid overall unit. CH will have no problem taking the Sierra, and pull off an upset at Keifer against Amat.

  • 12th man

    The ultimate question..how long can Amat retain that #1 spot? We will find out soon enough..Week 0 will provide a good enough measuring stick to give us some inside information on the type of season BA can look foward too..Alot of skeptics will say “you can’t measure on just one game” but if last year’s week 0 was any indication on the type of year Amat would have (which was a good season by the way), better yet the type of season Servite would have..then were right on target to reveal some answers..Although Amat generally starts the season & ends it in that Tribune #1 poll..this year could prove different..The only way Amat stays #1 is if Koa Haynes stays healthy..The pac5 is brutal & takes no prisoners it’s like no other division where you can just barely get by..There’s no where to hide in the pac5 & every game will suck the life out of you..If BA decides to run the QB read option offense early in the season..well~ let’s just say, I will close my eyes every time Koa tucks it in & decides to run..It’s almost mandatory that your team has a reliable back who can give you close to 5yds per carry..otherwise your wasting time playing in the pac5..for those of you die-hard fans who love looking up information & going through stats..here’s one for you? How many yds per cary has the RB averaged from a pac5 championship team the past 7 years? Do the math~ If you can’t carry the rock..well~ let’s just put it like Snoop Dogg would say ” if you can’t swim your bound to drizzound”

    • Valley Athletics

      Checkout the pics in the amat td club website . It looks like cAmargo and Adrian Ortega are carrying the ball in most pics if the blue and gold game . I am sure they both will do well . I heard they got a transfer from ayala that was on varsity there last year as a sophmore but saw very little action . Will see after his 30 day sit out if he is any good . Upland , west Torrance and cathedral will be scrimmaging at Amat tomorrow at 5:30 .

      • fb102

        Does anyone know why Upland HS vaunted transferS were not playing in the scrimmages at Amat yesterday?

        Have they been cleared by CIF? Discipline issues?

        • AMAT 73

          They were nursing minor injuries and also playing Mater Dei next week .

          • fb102

            You KNOW that or were TOLD THAT……idle speculation from an Amat guy is not very credible…..new qb does not play in scrimmage a week before FIRST game? ALL of them are injured?

        • Valley Athletics

          Kind of fishy not playing the transfers . Being that it is a week away from your first game . Wouldn’t you want your starting players in for important reps . Specially the Qb who has no varsity experience .

        • In the Know

          All were cleared – Mater Di scouts in stands caused this—smooth tactic

          • fb102

            um…ok…..sure….

  • disqus_EwzMXwPVzM

    Db and Bonita should not be in top 10.

    • Stephen Carter

      Bonita shoulf be easily ranked higher than DB!!

  • Jastrab

    What I am curious about is what happens if Damien wins its legal battle (along with the others.) Would there not be a ripple affect of the Baldy area that voted on the new leagues? Would they remain in the diluted Sierra or would the Sierra need to be put back together and Ayala and CH Hills being removed from the Baseline…but then Glendora and Alta Loma don’t get relief. Or would Sparta be moved into the Baseline and then who leaves. I guess it is all moot if Damien losses its case, but there seem to be a wider set of implications as to beyond just Damien.

  • xiledsoviet

    Does anyone know anything how the DB and South Hills scrimmage turned out?