Tribskin Pick’em: Another big week in the Hacienda; Monrovia-St. Francis ready for showdown

Aram Tolegian and I will go head-to-head picking football games throughout the season. He edged me out the past two seasons, but it’s not happening this year, not when we’re playing for a Slater’s 50-50 burger.

Aram Tolegian (11-8, last week); (68-37, season total)
Fred Robledo (13-6, last week); (71-34, season total)

dcoach

Last week: I picked up three games on our football expert by going 3-0 in the Hacienda while he went 0-3. Enough said.

This week: The biggest game is from the West San Gabriel Valley so we might as well pick it. I’ve got St. Francis and have been saying for weeks they won’t lose to Monrovia two-straight years. Golden Knights coach Jim Bonds won’t let it happen. Period, end of story. In the Hacienda, I like Diamond Bar and Diamond Ranch to continue on its collision course with victories over Los Altos and West Covina, respectively. Covina and Northview go at it Thursday night in what should be a close game, but I like the Vikes to bounce back after last week’s loss to San Dimas. It’s too bad Glendora doesn’t face Bishop Amat because they’ve beaten every other top local contender and will do so again against South Hills at the District. In somewhat of an upset, I like Damien to bounce back and beat Los Alamitos at home.

This week’s games and predictions
Thursday’s game

Ganesha vs. Azusa at Citrus College, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Azusa); Aram (Azusa)
Covina vs. Northview at CDF, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Northview); Aram (Northview)
Friday’s games
Hacienda League
Bonita at Rowland, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Bonita); Aram (Bo-High)
Los Altos at Diamond Ranch, 7 p.m. — Robledo (DRanch); Aram (Roddy)
West Covina at Diamond Bar, 7 p.m. — Robledo (DBar); Aram (D-Bar)
Montview League
Gladstone at Bassett, 7 p.m.
Sierra Vista at La Puente, 7 p.m. — Robledo (La Puente); Aram (LP)
Workman at Duarte, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Duarte); Aram (Falcs)
Valle Vista League
Baldwin Park at Nogales, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Baldwin Park); Aram (BP)
Wilson at San Dimas, 7 p.m. — Robledo (SDimas); Aram (SD)
Arroyo at La Canada, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Arroyo); Aram (Arroyo)
Ayala at Kaiser, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Ayala); Aram (Ayala)
Bishop Amat at Culver City, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Bishop Amat); Aram (Amat)
El Monte at Bell Gardens, 7 p.m. — Robledo (BG); Aram (BG)
El Toro at Claremont, 7 p.m. — Robledo (El Toro); Aram (ET)
Glendora vs. South Hills at CDF, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Glendora); Aram (Glendora)
Los Alamitos at Damien, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Damien); Aram (D-High)
Los Osos at Charter Oak, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Los Osos); Aram (LO)
Mountain View at Maranatha, 7 p.m. — Robledo (MView); Aram (MV)
South El Monte at San Marino, 7 p.m. — Robledo (SMarino); Aram (SM)
St. Francis at Monrovia, 7 p.m. — Robledo (St. Francis); Aram (M-Town)
Temple City at Rosemead, 7 p.m. — Robledo (Rosemead); Aram (Rosemead)

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  • GP AKA Green Machine

    Parochial = Automatic Win on the Trib..

    Last year was last year. Have you factored in Home field? Have you factored in Potts who tore St Francis up. What about Scoby? You made this claim 3 times in the past.

    There’s no way anyone is beating this Team…verses Covina two years ago.

    There is no way…verses St Francis last year.

    There is no way verses Paraclete in the finals last year..

    Why do you always say that…What’s your reasoning?

    • FredJ

      What St. Francis has done in the preseason has been more impressive than Monrovia. Two great teams, I just think St. Francis probably has more depth. Bonds’ teams traditionally do.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        That’s Baloney…They have a blow out win vs La Mirada which is not even ranked in Aram’s top 25. They have a win against Damien which is ranked 1 spot above San Dimas…and a win against Righetti which you or big man have not seen, and Chino which is comparable to Arcadia. Monrovia on the other hand has wins against South hills which is in your top Ten and 13 in Arams rankings.. A Win against Ayala which is # 15 on Arams rankings…which beat Dranch your # 5 team. I am just going off Trib Rankings…Just admit it…Parochial = Wins in your head…

        • FredJ

          Lets be real, to this day Monrovia has NEVER beaten an upper-echelon
          team during its three-year run. NEVER. In fact, they’ve lost to San
          Dimas, South Hills, Ayala, etc, during that run. This year, they beat
          South Hills and Ayala which is great, but it’s not like beating Amat,
          Chino Hills, Rancho Cucamonga or any top team that competes in the
          Inland. Even Charter Oak in a down year being 0-4 could still probably
          beat Monrovia. But during Monrovia’s three title runs, they wouldn’t of
          touched Charter Oak.

          Now, what Monrovia is doing is historic,
          don’t get me wrong. They’re going for four straight which would be the
          first time in the Valley since the legendary Temple City teams in the
          70s. It’s incredible. But when GP and Kennedy start mouthing off like
          they somehow have better teams that the ones I mentioned, they need to
          hear a dose of reality as well.

          Everything is relative, Monrovia
          is far and away the best team in Division 11 (Mid-Valley) and could
          certainly compete for a championship in the Southeast, especially this
          year.

          But if they were in the Inland, they would be like South
          Hills, Ayala and Glendora … hoping they make the playoffs and if they
          did, getting blown out by a top team.

          I’m not being a hater, that’s just reality boys.

          • observantcat

            So what you’re really saying in a nutshell is that the WHOLE SGV really and truly SUCK. Because by all accounts if any team did what we did with what we have they would get praised from here to NY. imagine Arroyo accomplished what the Monrovia has, they would be put up on a pedestal so HIGH that even Amat would be your second choice of teams in the valley. The great thing about the Cats is that they are getting more than the attention state-wide than anyone in this part of town and its well deserved. Five years ago when 5 of our players went over to Charter Oaks and all 5 were starters there you and everyone else saw Monrovia as 1 and done come time for playoffs, but we ended up playing in the Semi’s and lost a close one to Paraclete, next season we went to the Finals against SD and you know the rest… All the way to state baby.
            This Friday’s game will be a great game, but very winnable by either team but my money will be on the Cats by 7+……

          • FredJ

            That is not true at all. When San Dimas won its Mid-Valley title and when West Covina won back-to-back Southeast titles I don’t recall their bloggers popping off claiming they were the areas best, meaning they could beat Amat and Charter Oak.

            If they did, I would have had the opinion, but I don’t recall any of them popping off like you, Kennedy and other Monrovia fans. You seem to think your Mid-Valley titles mean you can take on all comers.

            I’m here to say you can’ t until you do.
            I’m still waiting for Monrovia to schedule a non-league heavyweight the way West Covina took on Loyola, Mater Dei and Bishop Amat or how Charter Oak is taking on big-time teams now like Rancho Cucamonga, Los Alamitos, etc.

            Monrovia hasn’t done it, it’s non-league claim to fame are wins over South Hills and St. Francis. Nice, but it stops there. Just nice.

            When you schedule at least one big-time opponent, which is what a three-time championship team should do to really challenge itself, then we can seriously discuss this.

            Until then, you just talk the talk.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            They lost all those games Fred…Anyone can schedule and lose.. you call me when any of those Outside of CH and BA win any of those games…

          • FredJ

            I hear you, I don’t think Monrovia would have beaten any of those teams either, this was more a comment for Observant Cat, who in recent years claimed Monrovia would have beaten Bishop Amat and Charter Oak.

            Observant actually wrote during one of Monrovia’s title runs that he thought Monrovia could have made the Pac-5 playoffs if they were in the Serra like Amat.

            It’s those type of comments that I react to like this.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Well..if we had Brandon Golden, Youngblood, AJ powell, Eric Brooks, Josiah Thropay etc..staying together for 4 years…or Kurt Scoby, Deshawn Ramirez, Ainsworth ETC…Maybe we pull off the upset. That’s what it would have taken…Even now we are not deep enough to challenge those Pac 5 / Inland uppers…Not yet.

          • FredJ

            That’s fair, at least you’re reasonable.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Always fun to go heads with Fred J… gotta work now…You wouldn’t be able to tell huh.

          • AMAT 73

            GP,
            What is it in your opinion that causes those players to leave and play at other schools in the first place . You kind of get the feeling on Scoby that MTown was not his favorite place to be and only went there as a last resort when no one else would take him Good luck this Friday , it should be a whole different game than last year as SF is more on par with the types of teams they are known for fielding in the past ..

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            It’s very complicated…but to sum it up…No disrespect to previous coaches, but up until 5 years ago…Mtown’s program was not very good. Our schedule was not as competitive, and we kept losing lower level title games. Not many were getting offers. Post Maddox, Parents and players are now wanting to play there because they see a change. They see the coach slowly improving schedule..they see brand new facilities and they have watched Monrovia master lower level football while betting some quality opponents… More importantly they see players getting full rides…Now it’s time to schedule even tougher schools. Players leaving and coming back sends a message to young talent, that they don’t have to go anywhere, and if they do make sure it’s a good fit. Will we be inland…probably never, Pac 5 never…but South East…one day.

          • observantcat

            Amat 73, that is far from the truth, if you really knew his living situation then you would know that having some assistance from the crew over at CO was his first mistake and it just rolled on from there. Kurt was definitely on Monrovia’s radar from day one but with all of the turmoil some coaches opted out blocking his path to Charter Oaks and let him experience his life the way if was being offered at the time. So Yes… kurt was always a Wildcat at heart just a bit misguided by a few thirty coaches that saw him for what their needs were at the time.

          • What?

            Yeah great, 10 running backs and only 1 football. Oh and half those guys would be at Duarte HS.

          • observantcat

            What? would you just stay your butt out of Duarte, The Canada’s were from Monrovia and played for Duarte at the peek of Duarte’s success and still lost to Monrovia, So they transferred out to SH, where Jaimie was denied to play in his senior year… This years Duarte squad has Sam Edwards who is the best kid on that squad and also played at Monrovia as a Freshman and could have been looking at 4 CIF rings by now…. so what’s your point ?

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            They May be a Duarte…they were at Monrovia…and the others came to Monrovia and they all play defense too.

          • FredJ

            What’s great about scheduling them is finding out where you’re really at. West Covina was never close, though one year they played Amat tough for a half. Chino Hills on the other hand, showed they can compete, beating Tesoro, tying Amat last year and nearly beating them again.

            Diamond Ranch and Muir have done it too .. I guarantee players love these type of challenges, and Monrovia is in a situation now where it can start to challenge itself as well. How good are they? Let’s find out.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            I agree, and Friday night turns out to be one of those games…Win or lose it will help our program. However, When Muir is at full strength and Dranch has all their area kids..they can beat a rancho….they are kind of like us…losing players to other schools..the fact we point that out doesn’t mean we are going to cry… we roll with who wants to wear green and white..insiders just know how good we could be…if we had those guys…FYI Monrovia never has and never will challenge a transfer…

          • FredJ

            I agree, playing St. Francis at the level they’re at this season is the toughest non-league game Monrovia has played in four years.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Correct! This best “team we have had” Not individuals…Team.

          • What?

            How is it that when Monrovia loses early in the year every delusional cat says, ” it’s because we always start slow, but we are a world beater at seasons end” but when West Covina loses to Covina in the 1st game of the year it’s an entirely different rationalization?

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            I never said that West Co Didn’t have a slow start. They lost…We lost…They end up being better later, just like we were better later. However, D11 never should be any uppers right? Nah.

          • FredJ

            They start slow because they play all their tough games early. By the time they get to league and CIF, those are all their easy games. See a pattern?

          • Kennedy Bryant

            I love to pop off especially when I have the facts on my side, I knew you when your a little snotty nose kid running around in Monrovia with Chris Congo wishing you could ball for MHS. Dont get me started Fredrico..

          • FredJ

            I left Monrovia when I was 11 and the only ball I wanted to play was soccer .. And no, I never dreamed of being a kicker for MTown.

            But thanks for bringing up Chris Congo, there was nobody better to get in trouble with :)

          • Kennedy Bryant

            Haha, Fred you know im just giving it to you right now. I love to heat this blog up. Should be a good game. Ill be here win or lose on Friday night. Love my Alma Mater and win should win this game. THERE IS A HIGHSCHOOL IN THE VALLEY

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Fred,
            Mouthing off to whom? You are respected writer with a great blog…but your not God all mighty… Let’s be real there was a lot of Monrovia Talent floating around the past years…I never said… that Monrovia was a lnland team…Southeast is the level we are on…Listen Charter Oak is good because they go into other Areas for talent. You know that, I know that, and their 0-4 record shows that this season without any headline transfers or a plethora of out area talent. Like I said…Your rankings don’t line up with your reasoning for this game in my opinion, which is just an opinion. During CO’s so called Elite years, they had several players on their roster who attended Monrovia as Frosh and left for CO. That’s fine, but that was our talent. Kurt Scoby, Gevontray Ainsworth, Whomever, decided not to go to Monrovia, and then came back…. That’s still talent we could have use in the 3 years prior to their transfer year. What has transpired over the last 3 years has nothing to do with this Friday. I don’t think my analysis was outlandish…You are basically saying that your rankings have nothing to do with how you make your picks. If you feel teams are better…rank them that way…Put La Mirada Back where they should be in the rankings….put some separation between San Dimas and Damien…and say that Chino is much better than Arcadia and don’t rank D ranch ahead of a team they lost to head to head……if Steve believes there better rank them #1 right now.. They you can say their resume right now is more impressive, and I laid it out according to how you have your teams ranked to date. Comment on that…not the history of Monrovia football…Can St Francis win this game? Absolutely! Is there resume better at the moment…I beg to differ. You never addressed the fact that you picked them last year despite their record and they lost. I am just saying….

          • FredJ

            Wait a minute, hasn’t Monrovia become Charter Oak West? Aren’t they getting other areas talent? Last year’s RB, Geovantry Ainsworth was a senior transfer from Covina. This year’s running back, Kurt Scoby, also a transfer. And that’s great, when you win you get transfers .. But lets be honest, Monrovia isn’t winning with just “home grown” talent.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Call those guys and ask them where they would have went if they did not go to The
            Covina schools. You see where they went back to…

          • Kennedy Bryant

            There you go again not know the facts

          • What?

            Fred, you forgot to mention that Monrovia “attracts” a lot of their players from Duarte (Hawks)

          • observantcat

            Dude you act like Duarte Hawks is a city until itself, that right there tells me that you don’t know what you are talking about. More than 85% of the Hawks are kids that live in the city of Monrovia and is ran by the majority parents whom also live in Monrovia, so get the facts straight before making such assumptions. Duarte has declined in football mainly because of the demographic changes in that city so several kids who live within walking distance to a Monrovia high school bus stop are jumping on that bus.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Yeah because Monrovia doesn’t have a team. They either play for DHawks or Arcardia until high school.

          • Kennedy Bryant

            Yeah and if they did play Amat and beat them you’d claim amount was down.. or it was a down year for the Lancers. They have been saying the same thing for 50 years Fredrico your just to young too know about MHS have never gotten respect EVER remember 9 CIF Championships game loses in arow. When I played @ MHS we beat Amat when they were rated number 1 in the Big Five Confernce at their field mind you, and Doug Spoon former sports editor of the tribune was just like you “BLINDED by the MHS is smaller, They play in the AAA division, not good enough and will never beat Amat. Even when MHS wins its never good enough. So lets us have our Scholar Athletes and our 3 in row small division championships and our bragging rights.
            Listen to you Bonds isnt goona let SF get beat two years in arow. why did he pay off the refs. Come on Son

      • Kennedy Bryant

        As always Fred WRONG

    • Truth is in the eye of the beh

      I think it has to do with fans like you. I can almost say everyone in the valley wants to see you guys lose. Monrovia fans are not humble, they are a sub par teams compared to the top 3 teams in the San Gabriel Valley and that’s not saying much about the San Gabriel Valley teams. Plus your resume has not been impressive the last 10 years. I would still take La Mirada over Monrovia any day. Look at the teams you play and tell me which win this year, last year, the year before any of the top three team would brag about? Just name one!

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        That’s your opinion..who cares what others want to see… Everyone wants to see BA lose to a local team. Did it happen..No! Who say’s a fan has to be humble anyways…we don’t suit up and don’t play the games…Monrovia is a great team. No one can take that away.

        • Kennedy Bryant

          The State Rankings give us love and CAL PREPS does as well. Let the haters hate. They all will be buying tickets to watch the CAT’s play in late November and early Dec.

        • What?

          Actually, it’s constantly pointed out on this blog by most posters that your are indeed D11 some even go so far as to call you 8-man football. Until you guys move up to a higher division and win or at least beat a significant upper division team, most bloggers will continue to snicker about your narcissistic personality disorder.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Tell that to South Hills…..

          • What?

            I said a SIGNIFICANT upper division team. SH is not a very good team and is playing in a very down Sierra League this year. In fact SH was beaten by Bonita that in turn was crushed by DBar who was smoked by Norwalk. That puts SH 4 degrees shy of being a significant D7 team let alone a moderate D2 team. Your opponent this week is probably going to be 2nd to last place in the Mission League just like they were last year.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Everyone is down when Monrovia beats them..Right?

          • What?

            1. CO is 0-4
            2. SH lost to Bonita
            3. Claremont lost to a bad Walnut team
            4. Ayala graduated something like 19 starters from their best class in years.
            5. Damien has zero skilled players
            6. CH is good but not as good as they have been in the recent past and is playing a Linebacker at QB

            You tell me, is the Sierra down or is everyone else up?

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            So then who’s good in the SGV? Is Everyone is down… Ayala Already beat The Hacienda’s best team…Those are the so called two of strongest leagues in the SGV. SF’s Mission league is very tough as well….SGV historically only play each other and when they step outside of that we’ve lose… so you are saying because SGV teams are losing to each other…Everyone is down? Maybe every one is just beating up on each other…

      • Kennedy Bryant

        who cares what you think you?

      • Kennedy Bryant

        The only reason the blog even exist is because of Greenie and the Amat faithful. Nobody get this blog going like Monrovia or Amat. Im just keeping real.You love to hate Monrovia, and you wish you could be Monrovia. Ask yourself, what has your team done over the last decade. Thought so lol

    • Steve Ramirez

      Not true, I have that Scoby running alone pick…but we just shot St. Francis last week, so I have more available.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        i just had to throw your name out there Steve…Monrovia is more than Scoby though :)

        • Steve Ramirez

          I know. But the Cats lack of a consistent passing game concerns me in a matchup like this. They can get away with that in the Mid-Valley because the talent gap is so great. I’m thinking SF will try to take away the run game of Scoby and Potts. That should leave opportunities in the passing game. If they take advantage, they win. If they don’t, they’ll lose. From what I saw, I don’t gave a lot of confidence. But SF has concern with their run defense, giving up 187 to Cloud last week. I’m thinking the teams will combine for more than the 30 points last season.

  • 12th man

    SF can match the same amount of firepower in the skilled positions as Monrovia they also have a very physical defense that can swarm to the ball..this game seems pretty evenly matched & could come down to special teams & turnovers..I’m hoping this game will come down to whoever has the ball last? but realistically speaking i have SF winning by atleast 2 scores 38-24..only because Monrovia has a history of starting out slow the 1st half of the season..hypothetically if this had been week 8,9,or 10 I would have Monrovia squeaking by 31-28

    • GP AKA Green Machine

      Respected honest opinion..nothing wrong with that…

  • FredJ

    Calpreps Prediction: St. Francis 31, Monrovia 21 …..’Cats 10 point underdogs