Arroyo coach Jim Singiser on preparing for San Dimas’ Wing T: “If they go out and drop 50 or 60 on us, then I’ll tell you it was a difficult task.”

singiserBy Aram Tolegian
A short week punctuated by a holiday is not exactly the most optimal situation for trying to teach a bunch of teenagers how to defend the Wing-T offense.
But Arroyo coach Jim Singiser said he and his staff will make the best of it as they prepare for Friday’s semifinals showdown against San Dimas.
The Saints run the Wing-T offense, which some teams simply don’t ever see otherwise until they play San Dimas. That’s the situation Arroyo is in this week and it’s got Thursday’s Thanksgiving holiday to contend with, too.
“If they go out and drop 50 or 60 on us, then I’ll tell you it was a difficult task,” Knights coach Jim Singiser said. “Our scout team can’t run in two days what San Dimas has been running in five years. That’s the problem, you can’t simulate it.
“And even if you can, San Dimas will do it better on Friday.”

San Dimas’ offense is simply rolling at present. The Saints are averaging just over 40 points per game. Arroyo can put up points, too, but somewhere along the way the Knights are going to have to come up with some stops.

“They choose to have five guys going one way and six guys going one way, and you have to find the football,” Singiser said. “We have to stay at home and we’ve got to be disciplined.”

San Dimas (8-4) smashed Gabrielino and San Marino to reach this point. Arroyo (11-1) got to this point by narrowly edging Baldwin Park, then leading start to finish against Schurr.

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  • SirRedDevil

    Hmmmm…So where will the Monrovia-San Dimas game be held?

    • FredJ

      at San Dimas

    • Mean Joe Green

      Home field is irrelevant to Monrovia. The scoring margins of their victories is greater when they are away (49.8) than it is when they are at home (31.8). San Dimas needs to be jumping for joy, because they have only played one away game since their winning streak. I don’t think home field will be a factor in that hypothetical situation. However, San Dimas clearly benefits more from the toss.

      • saints Fan

        Actually the Streak is 4-4 (Away vs Home)…. and away again Friday. This year has been the Road warrior year (ok, except for 2 years ago when new field was being built – when home games were at Citrus)

        • Mean Joe Green

          My mistake. It appears since their lost to Monrovia, they have had 6 games at home and 3 away. It still is rather lopsided.

        • Mean Joe Green

          My mistake. They have actually played 6 games at home and 3 away since their loss to Monrovia and the beginning of their winning streak. Either way its rather lopsided.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        Monrovia vs SD is the Rivalry of Rivalries in the Midvalley….they could play this game a Pudding Stone and it wouldn’t matter to either team…Monrovia is 2-1 at San Dimas,

        San Dimas is 1-2 at Monrovia…

        Monrovia is 0-1 at Citrus…

        If I was San Dimas…I would play a Citrus. That Neutral field is their best bet at Home field advantage. The series is 4-3 in Favor of Monrovia. However, the Cats are focused and locked in on Paraclete this week.

        • Mean Joe Green

          I agree with you that the Cats aren’t thinking about SD right now. It’s all about Clete. However, I don’t think history will play too much of a part if SD and Monrovia meet. These kids at Monrovia don’t have a care about history or stats. That’s for old guys like us to care about. Those kids do better when they play away. They seem to feed off of the nay sayers and trust me when I say there will be a lot of nay sayers if those two teams meet up.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Oh yeah…I agree as well…They love playing on the Road..
            Monrovia’s playoff scoring on the road…

            2010 vs SD 47 pts

            2011 vs WC 67 pts
            2011 vs Cov 41 pts
            2012 vs SC 42 pts
            2013 vs Mont 41 pts
            2013 vs Clete ???

            47 ppg avg in playoff Road games…

            During this historic run….Monrovia has never won at Citrus..not verses Glendora nor SD.

            AVG 10 ppg at Citrus.

          • Mean Joe Green

            Yikes! Any thoughts on why Citrus?

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            We also lost at El Camino Jr College in 1997 :..(
            I have no Idea… WTH is going on with Monrovia and JC. A few of those 9 CIF Championship Losses were at JC’s as well

          • Mean Joe Green

            I think I got some connections in New Orleans at the Juju discount store. I’ll buy a vat.

          • New York

            I thought that was Pierce College…just for historical accuracy.

          • New York

            Lost in 1999 to Paso Robles at Citrus as well.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Sure did…I will be going up there Saturday if we win… to sprinkle a little Green water and bless the Field…just in case Coach Z changes his mind… That’s called Juju!

          • New York

            Coach Z believes in misdirection and the value of confusion. He is likely to choose Wildcat Stadium as SD’s home field if Monrovia is fortunate enough to play next week. Why not? Coach Z has a winning record there! Talk about playing mind games like the chess champion he is. Coach Fisher, I mean Zernickow, just might do that!

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            No Coach Z has only won 1 game at Monrovia….

          • New York

            Oh really? Then all the more reason for the misdirection! Also, that game he won at Monrovia was SD’s most one-sided victory over us, just as our most lopsided over them was the semi-final game in 2010.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            That is correct…but losing to Monrovia with a Frosh QB…is the freshest Monrovia experience in his head….

          • New York

            If Monrovia makes it to the finals, it will be the third consecutive road game for the #1 seed. It is what it is.

          • New York

            Why will there be a lot of naysayers, other than Freddy?

          • Mean Joe Green

            So true!

      • Saint Parent

        I agree and I think the same could be said for SD. 49 ppg at home during the streak and 54 ppg away. I think what being at home will do for SD is not make them play better but rather keep them calmer and therefor not make the stupid mistakes early in the game. Being at home with your own locker room, music during pregame, and the routine that you are used to at home will go a long way to calm nerves of guys who haven’t been before unlike the 3 time defending champs.

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          True,
          when at home, you have more time to prepare, less travel time…more room in the locker room etc… We love playing at home in the finals.

          • Saint Parent

            Gotta know…how the heck did you guys lose. heard Scoby was talking trash and running his mouth before, during and after the game.

  • New York

    Get ready for some confused linebackers and several touchdown runs by completely untouched San Dimas running backs.

    • FredJ

      It always happens. Always

      • New York

        Fred, where is the CIF title game next week. San Dimas is hosting either Monrovia or Paraclete.

        • FredJ

          That’s correct and I already talked to San Dimas officials. If they win, they’re hosting it at San Dimas.

          • New York

            Did you also talk to Arroyo officials to ask where the game will be if Arroyo wins? Nahhh. Don’t bother. San Dimas is hosting CIF.

          • New York

            Freddy??

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            We love playing there…2-1 overall and 1-0 in the new stadium…

  • 12th man

    Here’s some tips.

    Have a plan to attack the A gaps and take away the inside run.

    Shade inside on the tight end to take away the potential for a double-team block.

    Make sure to attack the wing to keep the ball from getting outside quickly.

    • Jet sweep

      They already take away A gaps with the big boys. If you play inside the TE you will get crushed. Wing t doesn’t mean double team. Sorry 12th man you don’t know what you are talking about.

      • 12th man

        Ok then! If they’re already taking away the A gap like you say..It should be a close game according to you..Get back to me when you check the scoreboard & tell me how well they defended lol..

        • Jet sweep

          It won’t be close. SD by 4 scores. Their D is good and Arroyos isn’t.

          • New York

            Exactly. San Dimas defense is too fast. Arroyo will have some completions, but they will not break long runs afterward. Arroyo is a good team, but SD is just on a different level.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        The Wing T is running offense….put 8 in the box and dare San Dimas to throw it. If your DB’s can play one on one, then you are in good shape. However, you are not going to stop every play. High school kids are sometimes going to be out of place, go for the fake or miss a tackle every so often. If you miss a tackle and they get in the 2nd level, there will be no one back there, thus the 3 yrd, 4 yrd and the 40 yrd gain will occur. With Mayorga’s ability to catch out the back field, you just have to watch for the short play action pass out the back field and your DB’s have to cover their WR every time. Otherwise SD will occasionally throw one and connect. Mtown has done a excellent Job verses the wing z in the last few meetings.

        • Steve Ramirez

          It’s not that simple…The Wing-T and spread offenses for that matter, stretch the field horizontally,unlike a pro-set offense that wants to spread it vertically to create space. They look to create space on the edge. Against the Wing-T, you want to make them one dimensional, and in this case, make them look outside by stuffing the dive. If you don’t have the speed to cover the outside, most teams are in trouble. If you are too physical up front, like say with an Ellis McCarthy, up front, you can just blow it up.

  • GP AKA Green Machine

    The Wing -Z jet sweep is going to cause Arroyo a lot of problems….Unlike playing Monrovia…San Dimas has the speed edge in this one. So they will get the edge…

    • New York

      Arroyo’s isn’t getting ANY respect this week. Arroyo really needs to work hard to earn a little respect.

      • rene77

        Arroyo just doesn’t seem like they can play. Monrovia is going to kill them. SD vs green machine. Monrovia will win by 28 points

        • New York

          SD is playing Arroyo.

    • Joe Perez

      Easily shutdown no worries for Arroyo

  • New York

    It’s a wrap. San Dimas to the finals.

  • Jet sweep

    Why is it a short week? It’s a normal week. Get it straight.

  • New York

    San Dimas by a lot! Not only is Coach Z a great coach with a great system, but he has great athletes on the team. At a certain point, a neighborhood program like Arroyo just can’t compete with a football-player-magnet like Wing Z-High School. Too many athletes, too good of a system, lights out.

  • MonroVian

    Give the Arroyo team a bucket of Chicken wingZ before the game, make sure you have enough. Each player should have at least 5 wingZ Lineman 10-20. The wingZ Dna will go through their system, giving them all the Wing Z power they need to stop San Dimas. Good luck to both teams!
    I Got to do it!

    “You Don’t Want No Green And White”

  • MonroVian

    Oh almost forgot San Dimas 35 Arroyo 17

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