New football leagues for 2014 ..and is Monrovia and Paraclete headed to the Northwest Division?

These are the new Mt. SAC area teams for the 2014 football season. What we don’t know is what division they will compete in, or what happens to Damien while it fights CIF over joining a parochial league. It is unlikely that the Palomares League (formerly the Sierra), will stay in the Inland Division. Personally, would love the Palomares and Hacienda to both be in the Southeast. That would create some yummy playoff match-ups. Also, I’m hearing there could be a shake-up in the Mid-Valley Division. Likely to join the Mid-Valley are the Montview and the new Miramonte league. The two leagues that could leave the Mid-Valley to make room are the Rio Hondo (with Monrovia) and the Alpha League (which includes Paraclete). Those two leagues will likely join the Northwest.

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BASELINE LEAGUE: Ayala, Chino Hills, Etiwanda, Los Osos, Rancho Cucamonga, Upland
PALOMARES LEAGUE: Bonita, Chino, Claremont, Diamond Bar, Glendora, South Hills
HACIENDA LEAGUE: Charter Oak, Diamond Ranch, Los Altos, Rowland, Walnut, West Covina
MT. BALDY LEAGUE: Alta Loma, Chaffey, Colony, Don Lugo, Montclair, Ontario
VALLE VISTA LEAGUE: Baldwin Park, Covina, Nogales, Northview, San Dimas, Wilson
MONTVIEW LEAGUE: Azusa, Duarte, Gladstone, Sierra Vista, Workman
MIRAMONTE LEAGUE: Edgewood, Bassett, Ganesha, Garey, La Puente, Pomona

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  • inland_1

    Move Chino to the Mt. Baldy and San Dimas to the Palomares

    • Saints Go Marching In

      This isn’t about moving teams to new leagues. The leagues are already set. This is about divisions and where the chips may fall. #clueless

      • inland_1

        #you #really #using #hash #tags #? #just #saying #those #teams #would #fit #better #in #those #leagues #.

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    The 2014 Baseline conference is going to end up having Chino Hills taking uppercuts to the chin for the foreseeable future. Rancho Cucamonga isn’t tapering off and unless Upland passes a new ordinance limiting student athletes attending Upland HS be born and bread in the City of Upland, that transfer bus isn’t stopping. It’ll be crumbs for CH, Etiwanda, Los Osos and Ayala, who unfortunately becomes the new Alta Loma.

    The Palomares League will be ran by Diamond Bar, if they can keep their player/fan fights to a minimum, along with Glendora, followed by South Hills. Chino is going to wish they were back in the Mt Baldy conference and Claremont will continue to be sparing partners for everyone else’s backups. Sorry Claremont, you’re the only high school in one city, you should be waaaay better.

    Mt Baldy league becomes the new slug fest for Alta Loma, Colony and Don Lugo. More AL vs Col. Alta Loma lost their heavyweight license to fight years ago and was struggling in the Baseline and Colony, well they just keep on picking them up and putting them down. Don Lugo are gamers, but the Mt Baldy will one down to the first two.

    Hacienda League should be the most interesting with Charter Oak entering the fray. Diamond Ranch may not like the new company, but they’re gonna have to get used to it, just like CH did. I’d venture to say everyone else plays for the leftovers.

    Don’t know much about the rest of the leagues with the exception of a WTH is Pomona doing in that group? Lol

    • Valley Athletics

      Somebody was already spreading rumors that Cordell , kanya and noodles where leaving diamond bar and moving to Vegas for there senior season . So if that is true it can change things .

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        That would change things dramatically. I hope they’re not thinking Bishop Gorman?? That’s a machine that’s already loaded with great parts. Going to BG they certainly would not be the big fish in a small pond. :-)

      • FredJ

        Not true according to Cordell. I told him I read this rumor on the blog about him going to Las Vegas and he laughed. He said they aren’t going anywhere, they’re staying at Diamond Bar

        • Valley Athletics

          Someone in the la Serna vs Norwalk live feed was spreading that rumor . My nephew was Cordell’s buddy in junior high and still keeps in touch with him . He also asked Cordell and got same response you got . He told him they do play some tournaments in Vegas in the summer . But no plans on transferring .

    • True dat

      WestCo will challenge CO over the next 2 or 3 years. WC has had 3 very good Freshmen classes over the last 3 years. Los Altos will be a good team next year and will probably be the #3 team and make the playoffs. DRanch will be praying for a Wildcard spot into the playoffs next year as the #4 team and after that the following few years will be grim. No coach in the SGV over the past few years has done less with his talent then Coach Layton.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        West Co is hard to understand. They are always talented more than others, but always missing that one inch more that elevates that program to an elite status. Very frustrating. Now when you add in CO, whose spent the last few years punching CH in the mouth, it’s hard for me to fathom them giving CO fits. That’s no disrespect to West Co, but they couldn’t handle CH so how do they solve the CO problem?

      • TruTH

        Should be a good season next year in the Hacienda. I think Charter Oak will win league next year followed by Los Altos at second and West Covina as the third team. Diamond Ranch has to many loses to graduation and will struggle

    • OuttaYourMindTrib

      “Ayala, who unfortunately becomes the new Alta Loma”. I could not have said it better myself.

      C-No; my gosh, could they have been gifted a sweeter pass to the semi-finals. Louise really knows how to work the system. The rest of the AD’s for all these schools should be taken out behind the wood-shed and beaten with a switch.

      CH won’t see a playoff game unless somebody $#!+$ the bed.

      Upland… 10% chance you’ll get popped for transferring there. You don’t think it will stem the tide even a little bit? The questionables will probably end up at CH, Bectel seems like he knows how to grease the system and keep athletically motivated transfers under the radar. :cough: Simko :cough:

      Claremont… no kidding right? Solid academics. Don;t have to share athletes. WTF???

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Lol

    • Oss

      Don’t underestimate Ayala in the next 2 years…and South Hills will have a very solid defense in the next 2 years, and if they shore up the secondary, DB or Glendora won’t have anything on them.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Not underestimating Ayala, I’m simply going off projections. The Baseline is where the rich get richer. Upland pulls kids from all over and even though they were dysfunctional with all of the team fights and arguments, they started hitting their stride and ended up battling Centennial until they just wore down.

        Rancho just has athletes on top of athletes and that natural pipeline into that program isn’t drying up.

        So where does that leave everyone else?

        Etiwanda is back on the rise. Los Osos is being remade into Coach Price’s image. Chino Hills will be competitive, but not dominating. I think enough has been said about them by other posters that hint at why. Then there is Ayala. They’re a talented team that always seems to be right there, but missing that one thing to push them into the win column. Good defense, maybe. But you can’t win, if you can’t score and therein lies the rub. The problem for Ayala is at least four of those programs I mentioned above have better defenses.

      • Highlander

        Ayala would have competed lets say 10 years ago, but the high school has a ever growing Asian population, and has become a more academic school in recent years. I think Glendora and Charter Oak will reap the benefits of moving, as they will be alot more competitive in this new league.

  • Saints Go Marching In

    @Fred. If Monrovia and Paraclete leave the MidValley who is going to challenge San Dimas. This could be a Monrovia type run until the next cycle of changes. At least on paper it looks favorable, but that’s why they play the games!!!

    • FredJ

      Your right but someone will emerge, they always do

      • SirRedDevil

        Hey Fred the name of the new league is….

        Miramonte LEAGUE: Edgewood, Bassett, Ganesha, Garey, La Puente, Pomona

        • WhtHorse

          Edgewood?????

          • SirRedDevil

            Yeah Edgewood the school in Covina

          • WhtHorse

            I know, but do they have sports? Football?

          • MoreKetchup

            They have a few sports, just not football.

    • AZTEC PRIDE

      AZUSA WILL! The year SD played San Gabriel in the semi’s, was the year AZUSA would have beat San Dimas. I was there and if we don’t fumble the ball, AZUSA win!s BUT… loss!

      • Saints Go Marching In

        That would be great. Their HC is a good man and he does good work. Who knows, maybe Pomona can continue to be a force. After all, that QB was only a sophomore. Arroyo is always good, you dont make the playoffs 30 years in a row on accident. With SD they could be in a similar situation as this season, their preseason didnt change. With Monrovia, Diamond Bar(if they all don’t go to Bishop Gorman), Los Al, and Bonita they could be 0-4 again until they hit league and the playoffs.

      • Heights

        Azusa is joke. SD crushed you guys every year. Your coach cried to get out of playing us. You will get crushed by SD.

        • AZTEC PRIDE

          AZUSA is No joke, you didn’t crush us everytime you played us. If AZUSA doesnt Fumble at the SD 5yd we win.that game. That was the year you played San Gabriel and your coach did a questionable call. Monrovis and San Gabriel played in the Championship and Monrovia won..

          • SteveO

            Man Aztec that San Gabriel game was so frustrating! SD had to basically run every play twice because of all the penalties the refs were calling against SD. They get a TD or break off a big run, Nope! Penalty! Do it over lol! I still remember the refs running off the field in total fear because the crowd was pissed! Funniest thing I’ve ever seen at a football game. SD’s crowd is pretty conservative so for them to be so mad as to send the refs running made that much more funny. I just felt bad for the kids.

        • AZTEC PRIDE

          I’m talking about the 2011 season and the score was SD 30- AZUSA 23. That was the game AZUSA should have won but fumble and gave the game to SD. So don’t to say you crushed us. I’ll say this the last time AZUSA played SD, yes that was a spanking! Heights, AZUSA plays Football, just can’t get the size! AZUSA has a great popwarner organization, called the AZUSA Raiders, which helps. I’ll look into about the crying???LOL…

          • SteveO

            BTW Aztec The Azusa game with SD were one of my favorite games to go to. I think both teams had a certain respect for each other that always makes the game enjoyable. I have nothing but good things to say about Azusa and their football program. I hope they bring back the series between the two schools again.

          • AZTEC PRIDE

            Thanks SteveO , for keeping the conversation at a professional level! It’s always easy to come in here and say “AZUSA is a Joke”, or this or that but you and I know that’s not true. Back in 2009 when AZUSA played San Dimas and loss 50-24, was the year SD went on to play Monrovia, in the CIF Championship game and we all know SD came up on top. So what does that say for AZUSA. AZUSA had never been that far in the playoffs and gave San Dimas one heck of game in the first half, but the lid fell off after that! One more thing I’ll mentioned about that game, and Kendrec Mcdade score the vast majority of the points for AZUSA .. RIP Kendrec, who had a great game that night! SteveO, yes I’ll miss the AZUSA vs San Dimas match up and had this great feel about it and it’s CALLED RESPECT! Good talking to you SteveO and congratulations to the SAINTS, who are a great team!

    • AMAT 73

      Oh O do we have a new GP in the making ???????

      • Saints Go Marching In

        Oh no no no. I’m a realist and don’t for a second believe we are the greatest team to ever strap on gear. I know we can’t play with the likes of St Francis or Charter Oak. What I will say is that if Monrovia and Paraclete leave there won’t be a team that SD will have to face in League or Playoffs that they would feel intimidated by. If they bring in the miramonte and montview leagues it has to favor SD. There aren’t any world beaters and with the preseason that SD has again next year they will be battle tested. They may go 0-4 again in preseason considering they graduate their entire backfield. Once league rolls around those newbies should be ready to battle. So to answer your question….no I’m not the new GP. I’m confident in our program and coaching staff, but I also know we have work ahead of us and I’m not proclaiming a state title any time soon. The JV and Frosh teams were both really good which bodes we’ll for the future, so who know.

        • AMAT 73

          SGMI,
          Kind of how it starts . There’s always a team ready to come and slap the big gun down . I’m sure both MTown and Clete were not intimidated by the teams that knocked them off .

          • Saints Go Marching In

            I would agree with you there. Just look at what happened to us in 2011 with the San Gabriel game. We blow them out in the preseason then lose in the semi finals. Ironically Joseph Mayorga was on that team. Any given night anyone can lose. Especially when you are dealing with 15-18 year olds. I also agree that I miss Greenie. His silence scares me. Hope he is ok. He is a very solid contributor and had info on not only MHS but many teams around the area. We will just have to fill in until he gets back.

          • New York

            That 2011 year, SD dropped the ball and did not provide the championship rematch. This year, Monrovia did the same. C’est la vie. So was Mayorga really on that SG team? I asked that question on an different post.

          • saints Fan

            Yes, was their 2nd leading rusher as a Soph

          • New York

            Thanks. Small world. How did he do in that semifinal game against SD in 2011?

          • saints Fan

            Non Factor really (based on stats) had 1 carry for 3 yards and 1 TD, but they obviously ran him in there, gave him the carry and he scored. I wasn’t there, Maxpreps is a wonderful thing for the coaches who use it right…… seems he was the “blow” back during that campaign, not a lot of carries per game and 40-90 yards so my bet was he was giving the other guy a breather now n then and maybe change of pace.

          • Saints Go Marching In

            Yup!!! Talk about irony and redemption. Play on a team that eliminated SD in the semifinals and lose to Monrovia then play on the SD team that won the whole thing. I guess he “Chose wisely”

          • New York

            The story line almost reads like SD and SG combined the best of their resources and got over the top. Things definitely worked out well.

          • saints Fan

            I’m not sure I would say that, not disrespecting “the count” but the heart and soul of this team is Fausto in the backfield. “the count” benefitted from the system and the misdirection. Although, I will give him some cred in last 2 playoff games, he actually stood up and banged some heads on some runs. Up until that point, he was shaking and baking trying not to get hit. Showed he wanted it last 2 games though, so I give him that. Not a single other SG influence, cuz the coach that came over was not extremely effective.

      • New York

        Could be a reincarnation…we haven’t scene my Green brother around since we fell flat in the desert.

        • AMAT 73

          NY,
          It’s a shame , he was and hopefully still is a solid contributor on the blog. I would much rather hear his rage or not on the loss then the silence that looks bad on him .

          • New York

            He definitely incites more participation from others. My guess is that he is holding his tongue because he has nothing good to say about that final game. Following Ronald Reagan’s guidance about not pissing inside the tent, so to speak.

    • New York

      I was thinking the same thing, actually. I used to think that Monrovia did not belong in the current Mid-Valley, but then it was reasonably balanced after that. After seeing San Dimas go through the division this year, perhaps they don’t belong in it either. Winning CIF is not supposed to be as easy as it has been for Monrovia and San Dimas.
      Monrovia went tot he finals four years in a row and semis 6 years in a row. San Dimas has gone to the semis 5 years in a row. I still think there is a gap between Monrovia and San Dimas. Paraclete is good for SD but after that…who is there???
      Taking out Monrovia AND Paraclete could make things pretty boring for San Dimas in the playoffs.
      I’d love to see Monrovia in a tougher league and then get a shot at the Los Padres and Pac-7 teams again. We would need to play in a tougher league, though, in order to bring up our level of play. I wish Monrovia could get into one of those ESGV leagues or even into the Pacific.

  • Schumm

    How the Central Division of: Palomares, Hacienda, CBL, Sunkist, Mt. Pass. The Southeast will add Rio Hondo and maybe Valle Vista.

    • Don

      I like the idea of firming up the Central too . . . just not the idea of driving out to Hemet and Yucaipa for playoff games.

      I’d go for moving the Sunset back up too . . . maybe send Corona Del Mar and La Habra with ‘em. (JK Coach M)

    • Highlander

      That new Central Division idea is good for CBL, but no one else. CBL added Rialto Carter and Citrus Valley to the league for 2014. Just too much power and strength for the other leagues to handle. With Sierra gone CIF should have created a league called the Pinacante League which would consist of Heritage, Paloma Valley, Rancho Verde, Elsinore, Citrus Hill, and King. That means King leaves the Big VIII, and I would move Colony into the Big VIII because they can compete and geographically it makes sense. With that new league in the Inland Division you make it a true California Power House. Sunset would have to be Edison, Los Alamitos, Huntington Beach, Newport Harbor, Yorba Linda, Villa Park, La Habra, and Tustin to make it competitive. But geographically it does not make sense, but ultimately it is up to CIF.

  • Don

    Winners:

    Azusa – In the Mid where they belong.

    Baseball fans – Palomares just became THE place with Knott, Murphy, and Henley going every year.

    Charter Oak – Good to not have the whole athletic program paying Lou’s check any more.

    Alta Loma – From the bottom of the Inland to #13 in D5 is sweet (why not Ayala too?).

    San Dimas – Lucky the Area didn’t go all Charter Oak and boot ‘em up for their football successes.

    Claremont and South Hills – Relief, blessed relief

    Maybe not so lucky:

    Rowland and Walnut – Feeling kinda like Kentucky and Arkansas in the SEC.

    Ayala – Anyone else hearing that old song “Stuck in the Middle With You” here?

    Chino Hills – Rough row to hoe for East Diamond Bar.

    Damien – Like it not you guys are a private school. Embrace it.

    • FredJ

      Great comments as always Don

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      Don, good assessment. Great one on San Dimas and I almost hit the floor laughing on Ayala. That song fits them perfectly in the baseline. Glad you told Damien to embrace it, because the road doesn’t get any easier. They need to go the Bosco route. I don’t think the how needs to be explained in public. ;-)

    • AMAT 73

      Oso,
      I think Damien is a great fit for the Mission , if they embrace their private school status as you say .

      • Don

        73,

        We agree . . . now we just need the CAA to change up their plan to send them to D1. Where’s Joe when you need him?

        • AMAT 73

          Probably lobbying for that change .

          • Jastrab

            I asked this of Fred, but if they win and are not forced move what public league would they be moved or could go to? Baseline..7 schools? Hacienda, Palomares and Baseline all have 7 schools. Damien would get killed in Basketball in the Baseline. Baseball too!

  • FredJ

    The Palomares and Hacienda League should pick a week and call it the Palomares-Hacienda league challenge with all six teams from each league going at it to crown the best league. How fun would that be in week 2, 3 or 4 or even the season openers. If I were doing it next year, would set it up like this

    Glendora vs. Charter Oak
    South Hills vs. West Covina
    Diamond Ranch vs. Diamond Bar
    Bonita vs. Los Altos
    Claremont vs. Walnut
    Rowland vs. Chino

    Man I come up with great ideas :) … Then again, most of these teams will play each other multiple times anyway

    • reality

      Most of the football coaches have already filled their non-league schedules for next year. It would be fun to know and blog about if the coaches would share with you and us the match-ups.

      • Not So Fast My Friend

        Heard from a friend at Bosco, CH was trying to schedule them next season. I don’t know if they finalized that or not. I don’t hold out much hope for CH against them.

        • WCDan

          I wouldn’t hold out much hope either, I read that SJB was 20 & 0 this year in the TRINITY LEAGUE, 5&0 0n Varsity, JV , Frosh “A” and frosh”B”. Don’t know if it’s coaching or recruting, or a little bit of both. I don’t even think you can reach for the “on any given day” theory
          on Chino Hills behalf.

          • Highlander

            I agree that CH is going to struggle with SJB, but SJB is loosing alot of OL and DL this year, and that will hurt their game. CH is looking to gain experience, and they will need it as Upland is a heavy favorite to win the Baseline League and the Inland Division next year. Corona Centennial and Vista Murrieta are looking to reload as they always do, but may not be enough to match Upland’s fire power for next year. Upland’s recruiting (parents choice) starts in their Pop Warner and NEW JAAF league. I noticed alot of participants are from different citites, and parents just decide to leave their children in the Upland for the Football program. Next year will be interesting as CIF will decide you will enter the Inland Division as the Sierra league has exited. Will it be Inland Valley with power house team Rancho Verde or the competitive Sunbelt league that features Heritage and Paloma Valley. Whatever it is, CIF needs to act fast. Any word on when CIF will come to a conclusion on new Division’s

  • FredJ

    There is no reason the Palomares and Hacienda shouldn’t be in the same playoff division. As far as football, they’re very comparable leagues. When you add geographic proximity to the equation, it’s a no brainer.

    • TruTH

      That’s a good point but two years ago CIF added the San Gabriel league into the Southeast. Meaning that in order for the Palomares league to join the Southeast they need to take a league out of the Southeast in order to include the Palomares

  • FredJ

    If Charter Oak, Glendora and South Hills were part of the Southeast this year, I still think La Serna would have won the title. But how fun would it have been? You could argue Charter Oak and Glendora would have had a shot. I would have loved to watch Charter Oak go against Frankie football. Or South Hills or Glendora go against Norwalk. We need those type games

    • Not So Fast My Friend

      That would have been a game!

    • AMAT 73

      Fred J,
      No way LS beats CO . I tell you what that D line would have deflated the football . The other 2 , can’t say they would .

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    BTW Fred, you narrow down that list of end of the year awards yet?

  • Omen

    Have you received all league teams for Valle vista yet Fred?

    • saints Fan

      Valley Vista All League
      MVP – Darreon Lockett, Pomona
      Lineman of Year – Jared Trujillo San Dimas
      MVP Offense – Joseph Mayorga, San Dimas
      MVP Defense – Darryl Aggers, Pomona

      First team offense
      Shawn Wilson, Pomona
      Desmond Bobo, Pomona
      Jayson Miller, Baldwin Park
      Fasuto Martinez, San Dimas
      Pearnell Smally IV, Covina
      Darren Torres, Covina
      Mike Moran, Bladwin Park
      Bryan Salinas, Northview
      Mike Zapata, San Dimas
      Fidel Castro, San Dimas
      Ruben Retana, Covina
      Victor Valdez, Pomona
      Noah Reep, San Dimas
      Dylan Mora, Baldwin Park

      First team defense
      Desmond Bobo, Pomona
      Shawn Wilson, Pomona
      Erick Ware, San Dimas
      Kheeyon Woods, Pomona
      Jared Brito, Northview
      Erasmo Isiorida, Northview
      Bobby Rios, San Dimas
      Anthony Urrea, Covina
      Bryan Salinas, Northview
      Josiah Erickson, San Dimas
      Darren Torres, Covina
      Brian Torres, Pomona

      Second team offense
      Raymond Baraza, Baldwin Park
      Christian Padilla, Covina
      Daniel Valencia, Northview
      Josh Avila, San Dimas
      Christian Blackman, Northview
      Manny Lua, Pomona
      James Gonzalez, Nogales
      Matt Arellano, Nogales
      Francisco Perez, Baldwin Park
      Alex Arroyas, Pomona
      Jaron Reed, Northview
      Luis Palma, Baldwin Park
      Ben Rodriguez, Covina
      Jared Brito, Northview
      Colin Rumbin, San Dimas

      Second team defense
      Daniel Valencia, Northview
      Christian Padilla, Covina
      Nicholas Ybarra, Northview
      Jacob Martin, Nogales
      Victor Valdez, Pomona
      Derek Kearns, San Dimas
      Libner Castillo, Pomona
      David Valadez, Covina
      Max Flores, Northview
      Mitchell Giles, San Dimas
      Michael Roberts, Covina
      Ricky Padilla, Northview

      Honorable mention – Chris Salcido, San Dimas; Justin Padilla, Baldwin Park; Erik Williams, Covina; Ricky Beltran, San Dimas; Dequan Earl, Pomona; Anthony Guardado, Nogales; Robert Conway, Wilson; Jaron Reed, Northview; Aaron Ballard, Wilson; Jason Wallace, San Dimas; Rocky Mosqueda, Nogales; Andrew Guevara, Covina; Erik Hurrola, Wilson; Anthony Montez, Pomona; Ronnie Silva; Alberto Valenzuela, Baldwin Park; Mateo Ovalle, Nogales; Austin Maldonado, Wilson; Ryan Caveness, Covina; Oscar Sandoval, Wilson.

  • coachbilly

    Fred:
    I believe Walnut probably should move to VVL and put SD in Hacienda. SD really needs a tougher league and division especially if Clete and Monrovia leaves. Nogales could go to MTV.

    • Saints Go Marching In

      That’s a discussion for 2015. Right now the leagues are what they are and its all about division alignment. If SD continues to do what they do we can all guarantee they get the old heave hoe. But lets not get the cart ahead of the horse, they lose a lot of players on offense and have the same tough preseason they did this past season. A preseason schedule that proves they really don’t belong in a league with the BIG boys. What we all have to remember is that even though football drives the beast, there are other boys and girls sports that are impacted with league realignment. You cant punish an entire athletic program because one sport is a powerhouse. This is where the beauty of Division alignment comes in. This is individualistic to football and therefore the whole schools athletics aren’t impacted. They are definitely not a southeast team (preseason proved that). Where do they actually belong…who knows. Another consideration is what about the rest of the league. Can Northview or BP really compete in a higher division. Pomona moves to a new league so they aren’t a consideration in this argument. NHS and BPHS each lost in the first round. Are you going to move a whole league because of one team. Its not as simple a moving SD out of their league or division. There are major implications for many other programs involved.

      • saints Fan

        Which unfortunately is the same argument and why Monrovia still sits in the Mid Valley… for now

      • New York

        My attitude is that BP and NV can lose in the first round of any division…why punish SD by holding them back? What’s the difference for the other two?

  • Not So Fast My Friend

    Yes sir, the extended version. Lol

    It’s going to be rough for Ayala. Maybe they’ll pick up some quality transfers from Chino Hills.

    • OuttaYourMindTrib

      Well, word is getting around that you go to CHHS if you want to ride the bench and you go to Ayala if you want to play.

      99.99999% of these kids will never play another down past high school. You may as well go somewhere you can actually get a chance to play. You won’t get to playoffs at AHS but you’ll play. What’s important?

  • CO Football12

    So it looks like zero competition for Charter Oak in their new leauge.West Covina is okay but won’t beat Charter Oak. I hope we go to the same division like in 05-08 when we use to play Newport Harbor and Trabuco Hills and those Orange County Schools.We can compete with them and they are still really good schools. If we go to the same division as the sgv schools we will just win cif. La Serna is good but not good enough to beat Charter Oak, Last time Co won Cif we played them in the playoffs and they barely crossed the 50 yard line.

    • New York

      Three Sierra League titles in a row and two Inland quarterfinal appearances make CO head and shoulders above Southeast. CO will get worse if they drop into a weaker league and division. They definitely need to be pushed by teams like La Habra, Newport Harbor and Edison. It is too bad that last year’s Sierra simply did get put into that division. The only hope that Chino Hills has is if the baseline gets dropped back to the Central Division again.