PrepXtra Live Postgame Show with the boys and highlights of Glendora’s whipping over Ayala with Tom Kiss and Courtney Ponce

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  • Sunny Simmons

    very good win to nigth for los altos looking out

  • Valley Athletics

    Serra is 2-1 and only lost to Amat . They did beat Crespi . Don’t think they Are struggling in the PAC 5.

  • Real talk

    I love it…. I love it…. I love it….. I love it… I don’t know what happend but this Amat team is scary good… Garcia is a very good QB… This Amat team can play with and BEAT any team in the Pac-5. I have to give the coaching staff there props. Amat is bacK…

    • GP AKA Green Machine

      Really? Are you sure…we’ve seen 9-1 Amat teams lose at home in the first round before….Amat will be back after a playoff win…Amat Fans are still officially on suicide watch…if they don’t win that game Aram is going to have all the material and proof he needs to nail home his thesis.

      • Real talk

        This team has what the other teams didn’t.. It’s that knowing that it’s time to hunt and eat.. Big boy mentality.

  • WCDan

    Correction boy’s,
    Glendora did not beat West Co in WC’s championship years, nor in their non championship years, the teams played each other 4 times from 2008 to 2011 and West Co is 4 & 0 against Glendora, great games all of them but WC won them all.

    • Bulldogs have bite

      That’s including a Chad Jeffries lead Glendora team in 2010 I might add, just before he got hurt his senior year! Jeffries almost single handedly beat WC in that game, but Solomon and Lee were just too much for the Tartans to handle that night! All 4 games were decided by a touchdown or less! Always a great series between the two schools, maybe if the stars align just right we may be treated to another game in the playoffs. No looking ahead right now, another great game with Los Altos on the docket this week!

      • WCDan

        Yes, that Jefferies led team was 3 and 0 and had wins over Charter Oak, and eventual CIF champ Monrovia, when West Co beat them.
        Two games later they were two touchdowns up on Etiwanda when they lost Chad Jefferies for the season, from that point on it was all down hill.

    • GP AKA Green Machine

      Glendora is also 1-1 verses Monrovia. I know they have been in the baseline Etc..Etc…but they don’t have a dominating record verses everyone in the Central. All though Glendora by far has been the most consistent and sometimes impressive team in this division, they are beatable. They are vulnerable against a team that can pass, as Tom Kiss has pointed out. The one thing about this division is that comparative scoring is not the best way to look it. Each game is so different. Look at South Hills, Look at West Co…Look at Monrovia eeking out every game. How was CO able to hang with Glendora, but couldn’t touch Los Altos. How was Chino able to destroy Los Altos, but couldn’t touch Wesco? Glendora is the favorites because someone has to be, however, I don’t view them a untouchable. They are a team who put’s alot on Fink’s Shoulder. He is 90% of that teams offense. There is a good side and bad side to that. Fink is hard to stop. But if you can, especially in playoffs, Glendora won’t have anything to turn to.It’s easier said than done.

      • Tartanium

        Green, have you been to a Glendora game? I don’t think so. Cause if you had, I don’t think you would be posting that Fink is all Glendora has. Glendora has displayed a completely higher level of physicality over its opponents on both sides of the ball the last few games. Seems like you’re still resting your fortunes on this past summer’s touch football 7 on 7 passing leagues. C’mon Man! It’s tackle football season now!

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          I have…and I am right.

          • Tartanium

            Watch the highlight film again. I believe the tape clearly shows Ayala, a team with “speed” have eight chances to score from the Glendora 15 yard line, after a gift turnover, not even able to get three points out of it. My point being, speed is of no use when you’re knocked off-balance or you’re laying on your back on the turf. Also, check Andrew Montano’s offensive figures this season, along with Noah Holmes’ and Zach Lewallen.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Ayala ran the ball 3 times, then as predictable as ever, tried to throw when everyone in the stadium knew they couldn’t run it. If they would have threw it 3 times, they may have scored. Ayala did not throw the ball enough in this one. Didn’t CO throw a lot in that shootout? I am repeating what kiss said. Glendora is suspect verses a passing team.

          • Tartanium

            You still didn’t watch the highlight tape again, as I suggested. Ayala had eight chances (not just four chances) to score inside the fifteen after Glendora lost a fumbled snap. Glendora roughed the passer on fourth down of Ayala’s first series. So, Ayala got a fresh set of downs from the eight yard line, but didn’t gain a yard. Thus, eight plays total for Ayala from inside Glendora’s fifteen and no points…And guess what else? They weren’t all running attempts by Ayala and Fink wasn’t out there for any of those eight failed attempts!

          • Go Deep

            Greenie, I get you man. Tartans are very good, but without Fink’s legs they would be average. Another runner scored for them, I think #22, but it was Fink that made the difference. Ayala’s Offense has not been too potent this year. I think CalPreps shows them as the weakest scoring offense in the league, so stopping them four or eight times, whatever, might not be something to brag on. Ayala’s Defense was on the field all night. Against a quality offensive line like GHS they were bound to get worn out. Most of GHS yardage came on big plays, but for the most part Ayala D held their own.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            That is very true…Fink is bound to get his. He is going to get a 1 or 2 long runs…Most phenomenal running QB’s do. However, Glendora’s passing game was not sharp at all. Glendora’s defense keeps the game tight, and then Fink makes things happen. If your DB’s are good, like Ayala’s were, you commit everything to stopping finks running game. Make him pass all night and make those wr make plays all night. If they beat you that way, then so be it. Ayala could have won that game. Their Offensive coordinator was a little too conservative. Keep going deep like CO did. You are bound to get PI’s . If they pick it…it’s like a punt. If Mtown and Glendora meet up in the playoffs…were going to chuck it all night….shot after shot.

          • Tartanium

            If we play in the playoffs, which I really truly hope happens, we’ll see if the MoTown qb can “chuck it all night” sidearm while running for his physical life. And MTown’s fans gotta hope he doesn’t “tap-out” early like Bonita’s starting qb did in the second quarter after taking a big shot from one of Glendora’s crazed senior linebackers while scrambling. That Bonita starting qb wasn’t seen again in that game, but I guess he started the next game -funny! And did anyone ask why Ayala played three different qbs throughout Glendora’s relatively easy win last Friday? All three were ineffective and looked scared, releasing passes way too early, as their stats show…

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Since when has anyone from Monrovia tapped out verses glendora?

      • G-Town Observer

        Fink is a beast but GHS’s defense is only getting better as each team finds out how hard it is to run against them. When they do decide to pass it better be on the money or the pressure gets to the QB pretty quick.

        • GP AKA Green Machine

          Their defense is good…But they have a huge weakness…It’s funny but I don’t see a complete team in the central.

  • http://bishopamat.org/ Joe Amat

    What does Aram in his Amat rant, Green Bay Packer fans, and now Alabama media have in common? Looks like 3 weeks in a row they all need to take the advice of Joe Amat, Aaron Rodgers, & Nick Saban, which all had the same theme….

    R.E.L.A.X.!!!

  • Lower La Verne

    Glendora is good. Really good. And Fink is a monster.

    I think it’s panic time for my Bearcats. I understand that we were outmatched against Glendora, but that wasn’t the case against South Hills. There was some kind of excitement missing that hasn’t been seen since the San Dimas game. Heck even the crowd was dead!
    At least the offense came out in the second half and was able to spread the ball around. I think East has to be the QB. The offense is much more varied with him in the game and there are more people who can get the ball. It’s easy to key in on certain players when Brazzill is in because of his limitations. Brazzill is a good game manager, but he can’t get the ball to Gelalich and other playmakers the way East can. That was very clear against Glendora. East and Gelalich were the lone bright spots. I’ll choose to refrain comment on Verdugo.
    The defense did not play like they have in the past. South Hills decided to completely slow the game down and go to a 3 yards and a cloud of dust offense to prevent Bonita’s high tempo offense to be on the field. Bonita’s offense struggled to run the ball and in the second half decided to let East sling it around and was successful. It just wasn’t quite enough.

    • Green IM

      I’m going to agree with you about East leading Bonita at QB although at times he was forcing it into well covered receivers when others were open. On the other hand he seems to be the most capable of spreading it around to his playmakers and he did so liberally.

      However to reduce this team to East and Gelalich being the lone bright spots is misleading. Austin Russell was his usual self, as was Garibay. And Richie Cochran just continues to block and make those big drive extending catches. There are others but these guys stand out game after game. All of them play both ways. Gelalich probably had his best game as a receiver.

      I sincerely hope people don’t give up on this team.

  • Nomoredrama

    Week 8 of your weekly scoreboard no longer shows the DRanch vs Chino game on the list. What happened?

  • GP AKA Green Machine

    As the Amat Saga continues, and the argument about belonging still continues as well. As good as 3 straight league wins feel, without help Amat is looking at Second place. Amat has to win the mission and get 2 playoff wins this year and/or next year to prove they belong. One way of looking at this would be; With the best team in 10 years, they absolute best they were able to accomplish was 2nd place in the mission and a first or second round exit. That’s a short ceiling. They have to change how they do business. There is no doubt about it. The other teams may not be winning, but their demographics will always give them a chance to get to that level. The SGV is not as big. If Amat had 10 extra scholarship type players to go along with Vaughns, Sidney, Carmargo, Garcia, Sweet the rest, they would be undefeated and would win the Pac 5 this year or next year.

    In the Central the hacienda is creating a scary playoff picture. CO might finish 3rd, Either Monrovia, Kaiser, Colony will have to play them in first round. That Sucks! Also San Marino, is going to be a horrible first round draw for someone.

    • Not Since 1995

      Here we go. Having to prove ourselves yet again to the boys at MO-town. Come on greenie, worry about your task ahead. Also you can keep doubting Glemdora as well, but they are pretty good, just as I would say your boys are over there.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        I am worried about our task, but I am also very interested in Amats season…When Aram writes a story saying they don’t belong…we all want to see what’s up.

        • Not Since 1995

          To be honest, I think we are in a good spot with being the underdog. I LOVE IT… People should pick against us, but sooner or later folks will realize this ain’t your mama or daddy’s old lancer line up from back in the day. This team walks in to play anyone with the same confidence favored or not. It’s also nice to see some of the kids coming to watch the games from years past to see what a true TEAM looks and acts like. I hope these boys do well as they deserve it.

          • AMAT 73

            ns1995,
            That is where you are wrong . This a team with much of the old LANCER feel , Strong run game , efficient passing bordering on Haden type of numbers , and a shut down defense . You see in all the years you were bagging on us you really weren’t looking at the teams on the field . We’ve still got a long way to go but things are looking better every week .

      • WCDan

        Damn Nonsense, it’s like your born again or something, you sure this is you?

    • WCDan

      GP,
      I don’t believe playoff wins is good criteria for belonging in the Pac 5. Even if it was the criteria, there are many other teams that should be taken out before Amat. With a league as tough as this years Mission, or previous years in the Serra, just making the playoffs consistently and being in almost all these games win or lose shows they belong, guy’s like you and Aram either lose sight or you really don’t know how tough it is just to beat solid Pac 5 teams on a consistent basis, It’s not like they are in the Moore league competing against LB Wilson, Compton, or LB Millikan, Etc. Imagine your Monrovia being in a league with WC, CO, Glendora, and South Hills in years when all these teams are good. Every week would be a war, and then you would have to deal with the injuries. Good chance even M-Towns Championship teams don’t make playoffs in a lot of those years. Amats consistent history of beating teams such as Mater Dei, Notre Dame, Crespi, St. Bonnies, O-Lu, in big games where they were not expected to win, should count for something, no matter what time of year they beat them. This year you can add Alemany, and Serra to that list. If they lose in first round this year they still belong in the Pac 5.

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        The story is not about whether Mtown would make the playoffs in those leagues. Monrovia’s program has just now earned the right to be in the Central. So you saying that their championship teams would not have made the playoffs in a central like league is not saying much. I am not for certain that Mtown can win a 2nd round game in the Central this year. However, you earn you right to stay, move up or move down. West co has only had 1 bad season since their back to back titles, and they were demoted to Div 8. Those championship teams left a legacy behind which was not there before. Mtown is looking forward. BA is looking behind…unless they win that 1st round playoff game or better . That’s the truth.

        • WCDan

          No dig meant against M-town Greenie,just trying to paint a picture of how competitive it is in a good Pac 5 league like Amats. As hard as it would be for M-town,and also WC, CO,SH, or Glendora to make the playoffs if they were all in a league during their good years playing each other, That is how tough it is for Amat to go against Alemany, Crespi, ND, Loyola, and now Serra and Chaminade, all the teams in their league are good just about every year, There are no easy weeks. Yet Amat has managed to make the playoffs 5 out of 6 years in a tough situation like that.
          They certainly belong in the Pac 5, or you would have to take out their whole league, problem is who would you replace them with?

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Tesoro….no reason to take them out.

          • http://bishopamat.org/ Joe Amat

            Because that drive for a public school from South Orange County to West Hills makes all the sense in the world. Or do you take out Crespi! who also has one win. Maybe Loyola who has no wins in the last 6 years?

            What dan is saying is there isn’t a difference between the teams in the Mission League – so you’d have to take out Cal Preps THIRD BEST LEAGUE ***IN THE NATION*** and replace them with who, Tesoros league they just removed from the Pac 5?

          • WCDan

            Tesoro is a good choice, thats one team, replace them with Compton, now find me about 15 or 20 other teams to replace all the teams that need to go before Amat. I can give you maybe one more, say, Mission Viejo, so replace them with LB Wilson, or say Corona Roosevelt, thats two undeserving teams we got out of the Pac 5
            but you still got a long way to go till you get to Amat. See what I mean? There aren’t that many teams in the Southern Section that belong in the Pac 5 before Amat, you would have to cut the Pac 5 to a 6 or 8 team division.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            they should take all of the weak teams out..to create a true open division. The teams you suggest have been historically bad over the last ten years. Why do people act as if LB and compton are so far from the OC….and you know what…Corona is not that far from Anaheim too. There are at least 5-7 teams in Div 2 that are better than the horrible pac 5 schools. Why is compton in and Edison out…why is LB Wilson in and Mission viejo out, why is jordan in and Corona del mar out?

          • WCDan

            “they should take all of the weak teams out..to create a true open division.”

            If they did that, you would still have Amat as one of the teams that deserve to stay if you want to keep a 30 team division. Again the question boils down too, which teams would you replace Amat with. Find 20 or 15 or even 10 teams in the entire Southern section that would deserve to be in the Pac 5 over Amat that are not in already.

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            Maybe, but how long would you stay in that division without a playoff win…10 yrs, 20 yrs?

    • AMAT 73

      GP,
      The only place this so called saga continues is in your head . The saga should be whether MTown will be able to hang come playoff time against teams they have not seen the likes of in the playoffs but once , when they reached the final in the MV. This time around they will have to knock off at least 2 perhaps 3 equal or better teams along the way to a title . They have never faced this type of competition in the playoffs before . No more path of tomato cans on the way to a title for MTown . As with AMAT , MTown ain’t done shiat yet to prove the deserve to be in the Central , because if knocking off 3 solid PAC-5 teams and losing in OT by 1 to another does not prove AMAT belongs , then nothing MTown has done so far proves they belong in the Central , other than a ranking you guys were leaning on quite heavily when it had MTown at 1 but has seen a recent decline to # 3 and has disappeared from mention on recent posts .

      • GP AKA Green Machine

        OK…So Mtown has done nothing in the past years prove they belong in the Central. We have already beat Glendora before, We have already beat Ayala before. We beat Los Altos, Bonita. Which Central team is Monrovia not capable of beating. Monrovia has done more in the last 5 years to prove we belong in the Central, more than BA Has proved they belong in the Pac 5. Nevertheless you are soooo insecure right now, you don’t know what to do….a 9-1 Mission league champion BA has already lost in the first round before. You and I know, that Amat can do whatever right now; but if they don’t win that first round game this year, and at least get to semi’s next year, Aram’s thesis is spot on. If you can’t do it with this class, who are you going to do it with? Is there any indication that the next 2 classes at Amat are going to be this Talented? The whole argument is about Amats ability to replace talent, year after year, and all eyes are on Amat to see what they do with this talented class. It may be many moons before they have this type of talent today. Like I said, I am not wishing for Amat to lose. as a non biased observer, i don’t see any other conclusion… So what were you saying about Mtown…a Public school with 1700 kids. I think it was 5 years semis or better, 3 titles, What else do you have to do get a promotion. We are now playing on the same level as 90% of the Eastside powers…and we are ranked number 3. NOt bad at all. I think you are hating, and I am just looking at a overall body of work. What amat is doing now is exciting, but the first round win is so important…and as fred said, you are praying and hoping you get Norco…For the record….I want Amat in the Pac 5. I wonder what the score was when Haden threw for 470…did he get pulled early….it seems like They were holding Garcia back…they should have let him go for the Amat record….

        • http://bishopamat.org/ Joe Amat

          So wait Greenie, you’re usually fairly logical but this time I think your fingers got ahead of yourself. You wrote:

          “We have already beat Glendora before, We have already beat Ayala before.
          We beat Los Altos, Bonita. Which Central team is Monrovia not capable of beating. Monrovia has done more in the last 5 years to prove we belong in the Central, more than BA Has proved they belong in the Pac 5”

          In the last 5 years, Amat has beat Mater Dei, Servite, Santa Margarita, Orange Lutheran, and St Bonnies – not to mention the loss to LB Poly on a 4th & 23 Hail Mary with a minute to go when the were the #1 team… IN THE NATION!

          By the same token, who has Amat played that they have not proven THEY can beat in the Pac5?

          (BTW – Haden’s record came in an 80-9 win over League opponent Pius X. Like Garcia said, individual records are secondary and I think when they happen organically instead of chasing them they are much more meaningful)

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            I never said BA couldn’t beat great teams. Let’s just forget about divisions for a second. What other SGV team is getting praise for repeatedly losing in the first round ? Glendora was respected for playing in the Baseline, but was not praised until this year. You know why? Relief! St Francis was respected the last few years, but not praised until now. You know why…Relief. Monrovia has always been respected but will be praised if they can win the Central, you know why? Promotion. BA could be 7-0 with preasons wins over Bishop Gorman, De La Salle, St John Bosco etc….but they would trade it all for a 1st round playoff win.

            What did you expect Garcia to Say….I wanted to break Haden’s Record. When you are that close to a life time D-1 record, I say let the kid set the record, if I’m Haden. That’s not selfish. I am sure Haden when set the record at Amat, the same situation was in play. Records are set to be broken again. You and I know because of who Haden is today…BA wanted that record to stay put. That’s the truth!

          • AMAT 73

            GP,
            Please don’t tell me you are insinuating they pulled Garcia to keep Haden’s record intact . If you think that then you don’t know much about AMAT . Of course it would have been great to see it happen as I was at the game Haden set it and to see it broken also , icing on the cake . Garcia had already gone down in the game and it looked scary for a while . Why risk further injury and as in AMAT style once the game is out of hand the second and third stringers get their chance . And there is no out with old in with the new at AMAT , it’s all about TRADITION and I am sure the record will fall , if not this year , then next year as he will have plenty of time to get it done . It’s the same principle as taking a knee like AMAT does in games that an extra score will have no effect on the final outcome other than rubbing it in the other teams face .

        • AMAT 73

          GP,
          It just seems to me you want to keep this AMAT needs relief from the PAC-5 more than anyone else on this blog . Yes you’ve beaten those teams before but this is now . You can’t say you belong in the Central while still playing in the RHL . That is not a true test to say you belong . In no way am I hating on MTown and you should know better then that , it’s just you continually bag on the relief issue while saying MTown belongs and so forth . You have not proven that fact and a few preseason wins in the past and I believe 1 in the present ( Bonita ) does not prove you belong . Yes your past record in the MV prompted a well deserved and long overdue promotion , but that does not mean you belong as you have done nothing to prove that . All that lies ahead of you by getting into the 2nd round or semi’s or better still , winning it all . Insecure about what ????? I have no insecurities at all . We have not done anything but win some games and are in the hunt in league . Personally I feel our biggest game is ahead of us , Loyola , and that is all I am thinking about , playoffs are still too far ahead to worry about how far we go in them . I have learned my lesson by watching you MTown guy predict wins and championships and when they fade away so do you guys . Believe you me if we are fortunate to get to the late rounds and lose , I will be here ready to take any shot anyone cares to throw my way .

          • GP AKA Green Machine

            First of all, I don’t wish to see amat demoted. I won’t even respond to your comments about Mtown not belonging in the Central. There is absolutely no one here who believes that. I’ll ask you this…Amat is at 8 years and counting without a playoff win. How many more years should Amat stay in the pac 5 without a first round playoff win, especially if they don’t win with this class? 5 more years, 10 more years? Stop referencing the Moore league teams, who don’t belong. Stop referring to all the programs which are new to the D1 level. Amat is an old time D1 champion…how many more years? i know you are not a hater…I am not either. This was the most interesting thing we have going on right now.

          • http://bishopamat.org/ Joe Amat

            Greenie,

            Let’s just compare private schools and leave those public schools and newbies out, shall we?

            In 2009 Amat beat Mater Dei in the playoffs (which is probably the best playoff win of any team in the SGV during that time)

            You’re right the new schools and the Moore League don’t really count. Tough part is, whoever gets them in the first round gets props for a win!

            Here are playoff appearances in the last 6 years.
            Bishop Amat 5/6
            Mater Dei 5/6
            Servite 5/6
            Notre Dame 4/6
            St John Bosco 3/6
            OLu 3/6
            Santa Margarita 3/6
            Loyola 2/6
            Crespi 2/6
            JSerra ZERO/6

            If we want to talk wins in the past 6 years Amat has one playoff win. Notre Dame has 2 Pac5 playoff wins(one over Compton –
            does that count?), OLu has 2 (both in 2008 – the year Amat beat them – one over Notre Dame and one over Fountain Valley who has since been banished from the Pac 5), Crespi has 1, Loyola, Oaks Christian, and Jserra have none.

            We wont even talk about the revolving door of public school leagues that will come and go. But Amat is so far behind those you want to spark some discussion? JSerra has NEVER been in the playoffs, St John Bosco had 7 dry years and is 19-19 using your “last 8 years” and Servite went 25 years between championships.