Before facing Mater Dei in opener, Bishop Amat has big scrimmage planned Friday


Before Bishop Amat football takes on nationally-ranked Mater Dei, the top-ranked team in the country by several publications at home on Aug. 25, it will have a scrimmage at power Corona Centennial on Friday.
Centennial, Vista Murrieta, Rancho Cucamonga and Bishop Amat will all be there for the scrimmage, but Amat is expected to only go against Centennial and Vista Murrieta. Bishop Amat will play a regular season game against Rancho Cucamonga at home on Sept. 15. The scrimmage starts at 7 p.m.

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  • observantcat

    Amat may want to conserve as much energy as possible and not take a chance at anyone getting hurt before the 25th. Maybe Amat can find a way to play virtual football this week against teams at this level. Good luck either way, I would love to see what Amat has this season…. It should be interesting at the very least.

    • GO BIG BLUE

      We all know MD will smash on EVERY team. Nothing new! Would love to see your schools play MD

  • Valley Athletics

    I thought Amat played at Santa Ana against Mater Dei. Last year was at home .

    • Jastrab

      From what I understand, rollo thinks he might get beat and did not want to lose at home..MD does not travel very well…thus he wanted to play away and not get a lot of flack

      • Valley Athletics

        I guess since it’s a contract renewal Amat gets first home game this time .

      • tanksolot

        You’re kidding, right?

        • Jastrab

          Valley, yes…just thought a little levity might be in order. I did hear – serious this time – that JT may be out and their #1 WR is nursing a finger and is game time…any truth?

          • FredJ

            You heard JT Daniels might be out? Haven’t heard that at all.

          • Jastrab

            Not sure if it is OC banter or real? Saw something in OC Connect, but you know how that goes Freddy?

          • Jastrab

            Dig into your OC contacts…it also mentions the backup from Bishop Gorman has a broken hand…not sure if it is all BS or for real.

          • scotty bore as

            JT had a sore right shoulder off and on all summer

  • hs sports fan

    any predictions on final overall record? any chance at making playoffs?

    • FredJ

      7-3 or 8-2 is realistic. 6-4 is probably the magic number though.

      • Valley Athletics

        Tough schedule . Max preps has Mater Dei , Serra , Loyola Acadamy and Jserra all ranked in top 25 nationally . chaminade and RC also ranked above Amat in state rankings .

        • GO BIG BLUE

          Lol

      • hs sports fan

        those would be some great results but i think best case they go 4-6 likely worse and then just becomes a question whether that is good enough to get in playoffs with so few schools in D1

      • scotty bore as

        7-3 or 8-2 will qualify Amat as one of the top 2 or 3 teams ever in the fish bowl….way more likely is 6-4

        • WCDan

          “7-3 or 8-2 will qualify Amat as one of the top 2 or 3 teams ever in the fish bowl….”
          Ohhh Scotty, just shows how little you know about some of the great teams in fish bowl history.

          • scotty bore as

            the fish bowl has never had a team play this kind of schedule…EVER and I go back to ’62….including West Covina and Sandy Durko of that era !

          • WCDan

            Mater Dei and Loyola of Ilini, very high rankings, I’ll give you that, but it’s preseason, we’ll see how things look at end of season. There were some great teams from Amat, Los Altos, South Hills, West Covina, Diamond Bar, Charter Oak, that would beg to differ with an Amat team that goes 7 & 3 against that schedule.

          • scotty bore as

            you can leave CO,DBar, and West Covina out of the conversation, they didn’t play in the largest division, nor did any of those teams make a road trip to play a defending state champion… the relaxed transfer rule allows for just a select few to “recruit” so much talent, look at all the rosters at SJB, Mater Dei,Centennial and Mission Viejo and those who have transferred in…these are super teams, the likes of the 70s never dreamed !

          • WCDan

            West Covina for most of the 70’s was in the top division, whether it was 4A or the big Five conference. The Sierra League with Los Altos, West Covina and South Hills was on par with the top leagues in the state. The 4 years that I was in high school the Sierra League won the top division 3 out of 4 years. In 1975 Undefeated Huntington Beach Edison was 10 and 0 and ranked #1 in Ca. They lost in the first round to West Covina who was the Sierra league champs that year. West Covina then went on to beat San Maros in the second round and then lost to eventual National champion Loyola 21 to 12.
            The next year in 1976 West Covina beat Eisenhower high school (who had NFL’s Ronnie Lott on their team) in the first round. Second Round they beat the defending national champions Loyola. Third round they beat perennial state powerhouse St. Paul, in the fourth round semifinal game they had eventual CIF champion Los Altos on the ropes, WC was ahead with a few minutes left in the game, they had just stuffed LA at their own 10 yard line. LA punted the ball all the way to West Co’s 8 yard line, an 80 yard punt. West Co just had to kill the clock and they would have been in the championship game. Next play WC fumbles and Los Altos scores a game winning touchdown. LA goes on the next week to beat Fontana for the Big 5 title. Earlier that season West Co beat both Fontana and Los Altos during preseason and league play.
            The next year in 77, WC took the Sierra league title, beating Los Altos in league but eventually losing in the playoffs to Newport Harbor. Los Altos won the division that year too.
            My point being is that WC may not have won the Top Division, but they were good enough to win it in a couple of those years, so I think they do belong in the conversation.
            Now an 8 & 2, or 7 & 3 Amat team means they would have lost to Mater Dei and Loyola of Illin. Well after those two teams the rest of the schedule looks like your typical Pac 5 teams, no super teams just good solid Pac 5 teams. So to say they would be top 2 or 3 ever in the fish bowl is qute a stretch.

          • WCDan

            By the way, how does a team (Mater Dei) get a 101 rating on cal preps?
            The 2001 Long Beach Poly team had 3 or 4 eventual NFL players, plus USC runningback Hershel Dennis on that team and only had a 45 rating, go figure.

          • scotty bore as

            JSerra, Serra , Rancho Cucamonga and Chaminade are ALL nationally ranked, in Max Preps top 50, I doubt that any Sierra League team has faced a schedule like that, in fact I know they didn’t ! Add to that game 2 is in Chicago and this is by far the toughest schedule ever in the fish bowl, 8-2 would put them as equals to Amats championship team of 95, lastly, the teams of the 70s would in no way compete well with the teams of today, especially in football, size,speed, specialists,one-way players, coaching, all have progressed dramatically

          • WCDan

            How can you know anything about J Serra, Rancho Cucamonga, and Chaminade being nationally ranked at the end of season when none of them has ran a single play yet, it’s all pre season hype so far. Nobody knows how their seasons will turn out. What has any of those three done in the top division so far?
            On the other hand the Sierra league teams regularly FINISHED the seasons ranked in the top 5 of the nation in the mid seventies.
            Loyola were the National Champs when they beat West Covina by only 9 points in the third round in 1975. Huntington Beach Edison was nationally ranked when West Covina beat them in the first round.
            In 1976, Loyola was defending national champs when West Covina beat them in the second round. St. Paul was nationally ranked when West Covina beat them in third round in 76. Add in West Co’s league win in the regular season over eventual CIF champ and #5 national ranked Los Altos, that’s 3 nationally ranked teams West Co not only played but beat in 1976. In 1975 they beat 2 national ranked teams and lost by 9 points to the national champs. Pretty Impressive considering this was done on the field, and not on mythical pre season rankings.

          • scotty bore as

            so, your mythical ratings are more legit than mine?

          • WCDan

            Yeah a little, at least my mythical ratings are based on real games played.

          • scotty bore as

            95 Amat team finished 7th in the final USA Today poll after winning CIF

          • WCDan

            Those were some awesome teams at Amat in the 90’s and 70’s.
            Los Altos finished 5th and 3rd in the Nation after their CIF titles in 76 and 77, beaten both times by West Co during league, in turn, South Hills beat West Co both those years, tough league. South Hills finished 4th in the Nation in 74, so between 74 and 77 that was 3 CIF titles and 3 national top 5 appearances for the Sierra league, tough league with those three beating up each other during the regular season.

          • AMAT73

            Scotty ,
            You know not what you speak of !!! Back in the day the Sierra League was a very powerful league and put at least 2 teams in the AAAA = D1 playoffs back in my and WC Dan’s days . Look it up WC, SH, LA , and believe it or not LP and Edgewood ( a lot better in baseball ) were all solid programs . There was plenty of talent around , no transfers , nothing like today’s world . AMAT basically got all of the local Catholic school kids and few public kids but not many . WC Dan is correct in saying WC was a D-1 power back then .But they never beat AMAT !!!!! WC Dan , you know I had to throw that in , hahahaha

          • WCDan

            Lol 73,
            Hey you guys deserve the status among
            the locals, not many in the Tribune area have had the pleasure of beating Amat in this century. Sure would have been some great games between Amat and the Sierra league teams of the 70’s, to bad they didn’t play.

          • AMAT73

            WC Dan ,
            Damn , you got me . Sure didn’t play WC but we did play LP in preseason , I think in 69 or 70 , don’t know if you remember the name Dale Duncan from those days , LB from LP went on to the Air Force academy full ride .

          • WCDan

            Nice, don’t quite remember the name, but seem to remember Air Force, Army, and Navy being stronger in those days. Did LP make a game out of it?

          • scotty bore as

            I believe Amat played Los Altos 2 or 3 times in the playoffs during the 70s and won them all

          • WCDan

            True but give credit where credit is due, South Hills and LA won the Division that Amat was in. I don’t think any of those teams played in those years.

          • scotty bore as

            you’re correct, neither WC or Edgewood beat Amat, throw in SH too….the teams of the seventies wouldn’t hold up to todays teams 40 years later, same as the 1930s didn’t hold a candle to the 70s era….in my mind, Amats 94 team”mythically” rated number 1 in pre-season polls was the all-time best fish bowl team, despite losing to Mater Dei in the championship game….has any local team boasted of 4 multi-year starters in the NFL, McCutcheon, Kory Minor,Ralph Brown and Brian Russell? 2 of those guys were POY for CIF….I’ll wait for you to come up with some semblance of an answer 73

          • WCDan

            SH and WC didn’t play Amat in the seventies.

          • AMAT73

            scotty ,
            The teams of 69, 70 ,and 71( look them up , they were huge ) which by the way had a Miami Dolphin season , no losses on their way to the AAAA (D-1) CHAMPIONSHIP .The 69 team lost to Blair which had the 2 backs James McAllister and the second back escapes me but both went on the be the starting backfield at UCLA . You might not remember teams back that far but they are the ones who put AMAT on the football map , although Gus might not agree , the earlier teams with Coach Cantwell were pretty damn good also .

          • scotty bore as

            I remember those teams well ! the best of THAT era ! twenty plus years later, a NEW era, bigger,stronger and way,way more speed with a 4 year run that is a lot more impressive, 92 champs, 93 number 1 seed lost in the 2nd round in Antelope Valley, 93 number 1 in the USA today poll and lost to MD in the finals, 95 team wins it all finishes 7th in the USA today final poll. As far as the 70s era, Phil was a great guy and was sad to see he past away last year…there was a lot of Irish in him, in many ways ! I believe the other half of the Blair Pair was Alexander.

          • benedict2

            Name of the other half of the Blair pair was Kermit Johnson.

          • scotty bore as

            thanks Benedict…I must have been thinking of Kermit Alexander, part of some very good teams, along with the McKeever twins , at now closed Mt Carmel HS

          • scotty bore as

            John Salter played at 225, Bob Janco at 220….malnourished by todays standards

          • Conq ’76

            Those were some GREAT match-ups and great memories!

      • Chris Jones

        7-3/8-2 is realistic? Are they going 6-0 in the Mission League?

        Amat is more likely to go 1-3 in Non league than 3-1.

        • hs sports fan

          agreed, i just don’t see them having any shot beating mater dei, loyola illinois, jserra, or rancho to start 0-4, and i think serra gadena better. that is why i think 5-5 would be a great season but more likely 4-6 or worse, but hopefully they can pull a couple miracle wins like last year!

        • GO BIG BLUE

          We love you. GO BIG BLUE

  • AMAT73

    Love the banter , sounds similar to last years predictions . We shall see just how surprised the SGV will be once again when the AMAT LANCERS take the field and get the job done . The young LANCERS from last seasons team have that year of playing time at the highest level under their belt , They know what is in store for them and will take of business . I seem to recall the same type of posts on how the Texas team would tear us up a few years ago , well I’m sure you all saw the tape on that one . Loyola , IL , Loyola , La , same thing , both will fall .GO AMAT !!!!!!!

    • hs sports fan

      i sure hope you are right and that Amat has another great season, but i think and am worried with those 8 Big 10 commitments loyola illinois has on their roster right now, it will just be a different cut of athlete. i wouldn’t be so worried but i saw that Amat scrimmage at charter oak and i sure hope they were missing a bunch of players

      • GO BIG BLUE

        Good old Charter Choke…when was the last time they beat Amat. What division is CO

      • AMAT73

        HSSF,
        We shall see but you should not base your worries on a scrimmage with CO . They could out play us in 200 out of 200 scrimmages , but when the lights come on for real , AMAT seems to always get the W . GO AMAT !!!!

  • GO BIG BLUE

    Dont even pay attention to the negative posts on here. There will always be those parents who wish that their kid could be a Lancer @AMAT73

    • Chris Jones

      Yea…just like everyone wish they could be a Cathedral Phantom! Classic!

    • AMAT73

      GBG,
      Remember AMAT is not for everyone . If parents wish that , it could come true , whether or not they are an athlete . The doors are open to all, and where there’s a will there’s a way . That is why AMAT doesn’t throw all that money at transfers ala SJB , MD , and so on , it’s for all incoming students who need the help . . GO AMAT !!!!

  • Henry

    sorry to sound like a noob, but what is this fishbowl that everyone is talking about