Warner and signing

I bet the Compton College front office people are USC fans.

thats crazy... hopefully he is able to get this cleared up soon so he can put it past him and be ready to join his new teammates at UCLA!

BruinChick, agreed. Probably a TrOJie in Compton College admin throwing a monkey wrench into the works. If the bill is paid, release his paperwork. Simple as that.

Panchito.

You know it's one of those jerks who never went to USC who claims USC like a fanatic too.

Hey, there's Bruin fanatics (me) out there too, that couldn't get into UCLA. It's not a bad thing. :)

too bad they screwed up a very important day in his life, sounds like a frustrating situation...good luck BW, can't wait to see you and BP tearing up backfields across the Pac10

Sorry to hear this happened....We've all been there, so keep your head high. The Bruin family is waiting for you and exciting you are joining!

I don't know the real story, but couldn't he sign the LOI without the transcripts? This doesn't make sense. I thought you could sign an LOI without being cleared by admissions to the school. Also, he said "My stuff should have been paid". Why is there uncertainty? Shouldn't he know whether he paid for sure or not? Where's his receipt? Sounds fishy. Sounds like he may have paid one amount, but the school thinks he owes a higher amount. Anybody else see this? At the end of the day, we must understand that these are young irresponsible men. There is also probably a reason that he ended up at a JC. Nobody goes to a JC because they want to. Nobody ever claims a "DREAM" JC school. Most people who go to JC, do so because they have to. This is one of the reasons why College Coaches don't like to recruit JC players. Too much drama. Seriously, when was the last time UCLA had a JC transfer who was an impact player?

BruinFaithful:

Yeah - you'd have to look all the way to last year's quarterback to find a JC player who was able to start and have an impact at UCLA......

That's a lame analysis. Lots of people go to a JC before a UC because they can't afford tuition.

@ BruinFaithful:

I think the better question would be who was the last impact JC player anywhere? I'd be really interested to know...

And you can't say Craft since a) he didn't go straight to a JC and b) he was only an "impact" player because he was almost literally the only option...

Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought OJ transferred to USC from San Francisco City College.

Panchito.

Taitusi Lutui was a JC transfer to SC. He's an AZ Cardinal now.

Yup, OJ was a JC guy too.

Cal has had a few JC players over the years that did well. Off the top of my head, Aaron Rodgers and JJ Arrington both turned out to be OK and wound up in the NFL...since you asked.

BruinFaithful,

I disagree completely. Well over 10% of UCLA's incoming freshman undergraduate body are transfer students from JC's. A lot of times, in non athletic instances, grades have nothing to do with JC transfers.

Personally, I was a JC transfer and graduated with honors. The reason I went to JC was because I didn't have CA residency when I started school and didn't want to drop the big bucks.

That being said, it is another ball game with reference to athletes. I also feel there is a little something funny about the whole bill thing, like he thought Compton CC should have picked up the tab. However, the DT position is probably one of easier transition to the speed of D1 competition, more so than other positions...say QB. Warner has excellent size and speed, and should be able to contribute once learning packages and adjusting during camp.

All and all...I think he is a HUGE get.

Bruinchick:

IE. They had to go to a JC. They didn't have a choice. If they had the money they would have gone somewhere else. Did you not get that point Bruinchick? I said nobody chooses to go to a JC. That includes people who can't afford to go elsewhere. I didn't relegate it to one specific reason. Pay attention.

People who can afford to go to straight sometimes pick a JC just to save extra money. If you go to a California JC in the honors program, you are guaranteed a spot at CAL and UCLA. I know people who went that route. Some of them went that route to get to a better school.

I also know people who went to a JC because they wanted to stay closer to home for the first 2 years.

No need to get snippy.

Ri-L:

LMFAO. Ok. Sorry. Let me clarify. When was the last time a JC transfer made a POSITIVE impact at UCLA? I certainly don't think you can characterize a guy who threw more interceptions than touchdowns and had record interceptions in a half and a game as positive. Unbelievable.

Justin Hickman

Maybe he thinks it should have been handled because he filled out a fee waiver form and it didn't get processed? These things do happen. You'd think his coaches at CC would help him get his documents or requirements in order. He's their player and him transfering to UCLA is good notoriety for their program. You'd think they would have helped him so that everything was ready by yesterday.

UCLA is damn near impossible to get into out of high school these days. JC is a great route. I know kids my brother's age who are turning down other UC's (UCI, UCR) and USC to enter into JC honors programs that will feed them into UCLA.

On the Warner situation, I hope things get sorted out soon. Brandon is a special talent and sounds like a great kid. Welcome to UCLA Brandon, we're waiting for you!

Bruinchick and YoungAlum08:

Jesus. Again, even those people who went to JC's would have gone to a major University if they could. If they had a choice. IE If money was not an option. Please read what I asked. Again, Bruinchick, I asked at UCLA. Not SC or any other school. I said UCLA. You guys don't get the nexus of my point. My point is, if money was not an option YoungAlum, if you were a millionaire say, would you still have gone to a JC? Unless your pretending to be a prudent Warren Buffett miser over here. I think not. IE, you didn't have a choice. You went to a JC because money was an object. Whatever the reason might be. I didn't solely imply grades. Listen, even I went to SMC for summer school. Because, I didn't have a choice. I didn't have the money for UCLA summer session. Again, you guys are missing the main point of my post. The money part and the root of the logic behind his response. Did anybody read into that? "My stuff should have been paid"? How does he not know if it was paid or not? Where's the receipt. Again, it sounds like he paid a certain amount, but the school thinks he owes more. Maybe penalties were applied etc.? Also, what about the LOI? Can't you sign one without being cleared by admissions? IE Brian Price? It just doesn't fit. Are there different rules for JC transfers with regards to signing LOI?

Justin Hickman.

They will not release your transcript if there is a hold on your transcript for fees. I believe you need to send a transcript.

Also, I'm not saying he's not a good get. I think he's a stud. He's a great player and physical specimen. The question is, will he be able to make it on the field for an extended period? Many of our past JC transfers have had significant issues acclimating to UCLA academics. I only pointed out a fact. That most programs don't like to take JC transfers for many of these reasons. IE they also usually have baggage, discipline issues, academic obstacles and difficulty adjusting to College life and academics. Do you think Compton CC academic rigors are comparable to UCLA's? Please. LMAO. I only made the statement that JC's are usually not the first option for college coaches, for many reasons. Including, acclimating them to their system, getting them into D-1 shape, limited eligibility, on and on and on.

LMFAO. Then you guys use OJ as an example. Yeah, that guy had no baggage. HAHAHAHA. That was also 40 years ago. Many players went to JC's first back then. It was a completely different environment back then. Even the great Frank Gifford went to a JC before enrolling at USC. The NCAA rules on transfers were different. The level of competiton at University's back then wasn't the same. Even SC's, academic standards were lighter than they are now, if that's possible. NO COMPARISON.

ryan boschetti, d-tackle

Good point BruinKing77. Maybe he understood some voucher or grant would have paid for some fees, when it didn't. I certainly hope this guy turns out of. We really need his help at DL. Too bad we can't help him out with the fees. I certainly can relate to being a "Starving Student".

JUSTIN HICKMAN. There is your example.

I agree with Justin Hickman. Ryan, not too sure. My point is, these guys are too far and in between. So, you need to send your transcript before you can sign an LOI Bruinchick?

I think they have to make sure you haven't been there too long or something so that the LOI will be valid. There are special rules for JUCO transfers...

You can sign the LOI in your first year only, etc. And you have a set amount of time once it is sent in to verify your eligibility with NCAA. I think he is waiting just in case there is a problem verifying info by the deadline. It gets all complicated if the LOI is found to be void or invalid. I think they are holding off to avoid potential issues.

BruinFaithful,

The nexus of your point in regard to my argument is merely semantics. What I was attempting to articulate (and maybe I didn't) is that I CHOSE to go to a JC. I was accepted to UCLA out of high school, offered a financial aid package (not scholie) and chose that it would be better to go to JC. Money is always available for school, granted...not necessarily personal funds. Again, the riff here is merely semantics.

Regarding athletes, you're spot on. There are limited circumstances where it may be a choice....I couldn't tell you what they were. Only schools offering are away from home, have crap academics, etc...I don't know.

I think the big take away is...JC's usually suck even if they get you into UCLA, especially the registrar's office and...Warner will be a stud. However, while I do not know about off field transition, I think his on field transition will go very smooth (e.g. not Craft).

QB Vince Evans transferred to USC from LACC (when they still had a FB Program). Evans then went on to be the back up QB for the Raiders for 40 seasons.

Panchito.

Young Alum:

Agreed. We must also take into consideration that this kid has flipped his commitment several times to UCLA and has told several different sources different things. After his official to UCLA he told Dohn and Scout.com that he was definitely solid to UCLA. Days later, he told Scout he was still open and took visits to other school. Right after that, he told Dohn he was solid, then told Scout he wasn't and took another official to another school. I'm just sayin.

The good jc guys seem "too few and far between" because we barely took any the last few years. Hickman was an All-American, Morgan was a solid starter as the other DE, Boschetti was solid at DT and got some time in the NFL, Pierre-Louis was not a contributer, Villafuerte quit football. Those are all of the recent JC guys I can remember off the top of my head. Of course recruiting them is a bit of a crapshoot because RECRUITING is a crapshoot.

Wait til he deals with Murphy Hall...

Gubon13:

LMFAO. HAHAHAHA. So true. "Hey you're in the wrong line. Hey go to that line. No this line." Man do I not miss those days. Wait until he has to go to the Financial Aid office. Is that still in Murphy?

JC is a whole different game now than just a few years ago. I doubt Warners problem is just paying a bill

Warner actually went to college straight out of high school. Tuscum College in Tennessee first. He transferred to CC, then UCLA. He is the fastest guy at his size I have seen play. PLUS JC hav some of the best athletes who didnt got to major universities,and he is one of the best in the nation on that stage. Offers from UW, Florida, Tennessee, UCLA, USC, Oregon, and soooo on dont come to half ass athletes. Think about that, I wish he would have come back home to GA and the SEC...where all the real athletes are anyway.