Think/Know: Week 10

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* I know that discipline isn't something you enforce, it's something you instill
Most people think of the term discipline from the outside in, as in: "He disciplines his children." I look at it the other way. You dole out punishment. You don't dole at discipline. I just don't think of it that way. I believe you have discipline, that it is possessive, that it comes from within and with the guidance of a paternal or maternal figure.
That brings us to UCLA.
I've always believed in the idea that midwest kids who deal with harsh elements and absolute boredom have a more ingrained sense of toughness by the time they're 18 than west kids who get the sun and the beach. I've always believed you need to overcompensate for that and not only instill a heightened sense of discipline, but make sure it is maintained weekly.
As we saw so clearly early in the Bruins' 31-6 loss to Utah, this is a team that has very, very little discipline. In a winnable game, UCLA committed 12 penalties for 91 yards, including 10 for 76 in a first half that was ripe for the picking. The Bruins actually were owning both lines of scrimmage early on, and without the penalties, could've taken control early. I know it was a snow game, and I know it was loud, but all those pre-snap penalties were costly, and they can't happen.

* I think the Pistol offense cannot be the primary offense in the Pac-12
I'll expand on this idea in a post sometime in the next couple days, but I've had doubts that the pistol offense could sustain success on a week-in, week-out basis in the Pac-12. UCLA finally proved that to me against Utah, with a drastic drop-off in production after two straight successful performances against Cal and ASU.
The Utes completely took Kevin Prince out of the game, playing a *disciplined* brand of football on the perimeter, with the ends simply not crashing in on the handoff. Even with moderate success early, the Bruins were hampered by the penalties, and there were still openings in the pass game.
Prince's first completion, to Nelson Rosario on 2nd-and-11 on the second drive, was a perfectly designed play and it went for 16 yards. Then UCLA gets a delay of game to make it 1st-and-15, and Johnathan Franklin rushes for one yard, then Jeff Baca compounds the issue with a 15-yard personal foul penalty, and yet the Bruins still run on 2nd-and-29, then run again on 3rd-and-21. They don't complete another pass until less than five minutes were left in the first half.

* I know the Bruins shouldn't feel toooo bad about getting torched by John White IV
One of the perks of covering a Pac-12 team is getting to see so many great running backs over the years. The list is kind of staggering if you think about it: Toby Gerhart, Jaquizz Rodgers, LeGarrette Blount, LaMichael James (and Kenjon Barner and DeAnthony Thomas), Jahvid Best, Shane Vereen, Franklin and Bash, Chris Polk and I know I'm forgetting some. And that's just in my three years on this beat.
But I think White is up there, too. White had 167 yards against UCLA, but his longest run was only 22 yards. That means he gained 145 yards on 32 carries. Some may be underwhelmed by that YPC figure, but I was constantly impressed by how he seemed to gain the extra yard or two almost every single time. UCLA played OK up front for most of the game, and the tackling itself wasn't awful - sometimes the other guy is just really good.

* I think UCLA's defensive line isn't too far away if the right personnel is used
For the first half against the Utes, the Bruins were truly stout up front. At times, they looked dominant. At least four or five times, UCLA defensive linemen were a swim, a rip or a spin away from getting to the quarterback or ball-carrier behind the line of scrimmage. Of course, you can argue that the one extra move, that one fraction of a second, is the difference between good and great or average and good. But UCLA needs to utilize more speed off the edge, and if that means using Iuta Tepa or Aramide Olaniyan more, so be it.

* I know this is the strangest season in college sports history
Forget all of the scandals and forget the Penn State nightmare and just focus on football, and this is still such a weird year. I realized over the weekend that UCLA can win the Pac-12 South - heck, even the whole Pac-12! - and not be invited to a bowl. And that all stems from the mediocrity of the south division.
Who would've thought that in this turbulent season, the Bruins would still not only have something to play for, but actually have lofty aspirations. Tony Dye talked about that yesterday, and while a long-shot, it's unfair to dash those dreams, I think. But what a weird year.


12 Comments

The Big Woof! said:

"I think the Pistol offense cannot be the primary offense in the Pac-12"

I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT!!

Anonymous said:

Yea Jon, the penalties are due to UCLA being so close to the beach and it being sunny. Idiotic comment.

Maybe it is because there is no punishment in Rick's system. No accountability.

ucla-of-the-rockies Author Profile Page said:

anon1142: you completely didn't get Jon's solid take on discipline, ONE ASPECT of it being propped by the geographical take about where a kid may be from in terms of snow (OMG! There's white stuff on the ground!), heat, farm work for a living, recreational opportunities, etc. and etc. an opinion, by the way, that has been substantiated now for decades.

As for your second point, that was already stated by Jon, and has been now for literal weeks on this site, which makes you a half-cocked idiot for just jumping on your keyboard and making such a stupid statement.

Moreover, and this comes out every once in awhile from others on this site, too: many of you "anonymous" posters come off as complete fucking dickheads who can't read, reason, write or well ... that's enough.

Now, put that in your half-cocked pipe and smoke it.

Travis L. Marshall said:

"I think the Pistol offense cannot be the primary offense in the Pac-12"

I think you're incorrect there. The Pistol is a Great Offense to run in the Pac-12, if you have the right personnel. If you say "You Think" UCLA should run a more Pro Style Set with Kevin Prince or Richard Brehaut, then you would be closer to correct. If Kevin's Legs & Richard's Arm (And Gunslinger Mentality) was on one body...UCLA would avg 500 Yds Offense and at least 40ppg.

Anonymous said:

"I think the Pistol offense cannot be the primary offense in the Pac-12". Not quite. It should be I KNOW the Pistol offense cannot be the primary offense in the Pac-12

Exactly. You don't dole out discipline. You dole out punishment for not being disciplined.

The Big Woof! said:

I am waiting to comment more after Jon expands on the Pistol "in the next few days," but I am not just thinking about our current personnel, but also looking to the future.

bcucla8691 said:

I think the defense has been doing much better since the Arizona debacle. I know that if the offense is more discipline, we could have beaten ASU by a lot more and beat Utah. I know that the coaches need to hold the players ACCOUNTABLE for their actions on the field.

I KNOW Kevin Prince will not get us to the promise land. I still think in this crazy Pac 12 south race, alot can happen but it probably won't.

miguelito Author Profile Page said:

Oregon runs a spread option attack, last I checked they're doing ok in the pac 12.

pull your head out Jon

Anonymous said:

The pistol CAN work in the PAC-12. Not having any kind of passing threat makes this offense considerably easier to defend. You're essentially removing a dimension from the offense. This kind of reminds me of Tim Tebow and the Broncos. They can win a few games here and there, but they will never get over the top because Tebow is NOT a consistent passing threat.
Same story.

spedjones Author Profile Page said:

Let me make this easy on a go-forward basis. The "I think/I know" posts can be limited to the two following thoughts:

I THINK UCLA is terrible.
I KNOW CRN is going to get canned by December 1.

Anonymous said:

Anonymous @1:31, I think you almost hit on it. I can't claim to know if UCLA's use of the pistol will or will not work in the Pac-12, but it does need an efficient passing game as part of the strategy if it is to work. And not in the same way that Tebow isn't a consistent passing threat, KP is not consistent in his passing. If he always threw the way he does on his best days, that would be enough to make the offense satisfactory. The problem is he hasn't shown he can consistently put the ball where it needs to be on simple passes. He misses too often on 10 yard passes. Without that aerial component, UCLA's version of the pistol can be stopped too often.

Weasel of Westwood said:

I think we are pretty good.

I know we are conference champs in the making.

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