That is what said originally. You said 2nd round. I still think he will go in the 1st round.

You have totally changed your tune, Liar Rod and you celebrate his injury. Sad human.

Liar Rod NEVER answers any question about his fake degree. What round will Ishmael Adams go next year? LOL. Your best DB moving to offense. You can sure spot talent!!

Adams is so good he is playing offense. A 5’9 DB from West Virginia just got drafted in the 1st round. Face it, Adams can’t cover.

Adams is so good that other teams go right at him in man coverage 3 things usually happen: a completion, defensive holding or pass interference. That is why he is playing offense, Liar Rod. What was your fake major at UCLA? C’mon, step up and answer, JELLYFISH!! LOL Pathetic.

That’s all you have. Name calling. The facts don’t support you but you cling to Adams like your fake diploma. He was beaten out and you deny. And you actually get pleasure out of Myles Jack’s injury. Zero credibility on several fronts. I know some dumb people but most of them are honest. You are a rare combo of ignorance and dishonesty.

I feel bad for Jack. You are pathetic enjoying his injury. Sad life of a lying troll. The info on Jack’s knee came out the last 2 days. You are changing your story again.

You said he was a 2nd rounder because he was only 6’1. Plus he was undisciplined. He wasn’t a good pass rusher. You thought he was a 2nd rounder healthy. Now you change your tune and celebrate his injury. You are a sad sack of human excrement that has accomplished nothing and savors the pain of a 20 year old Bruin. You should be proud of yourself.

You are celebrating because you think it makes you right, which it doesn’t. You have proven time and time again that you are neither smart nor honest.

If Jack has a limited career because of his knee, he made exactly the right choice. Earn as much as you can now. One more year in college equals one less year getting paid in the NFL. Quite simple yet still probably too complex for Liar Rod.

THAT is the point. You have ZERO credibility. You never answer why you lied. It will always be the point. You are incapable of the truth. That is what you have proven.

1st round is what I said originally. You said 2nd round.

Zero credibility because you are a proven liar.

Sorry you can’t remember what you said, but I do. It’s pathetic that you enjoy his situation. It’s clear why nobody here agrees with you and likes you. You lie every day and invented your diploma, your wife and your entire life. Your friends are probably make believe too. Just pathetic.

You mocked Clark all year and back pedaled. You are the proven liar. Still won’t answer the question.

Wrongness? LOL.

You are as dumb as a rock. Not sweating at all. I feel bad for Jack. You are celebrating a kid’s bad break. What a tool!

Nobody is as invested in this as you are. You change your story so often you lose track. It’s a problem with most liars. They can’t remember who they told what. You getting happiness from Jack’s injury speaks volumes.

Care to answer why you lied about graduating from UCLA? Jellyfish? LOLser.

I’m not invested in failure. You are invested in Jack’s misfortune. It’s obvious that it makes you happy. Pathetic loser and a proven liar. You don’t even have the spine to explain why you invented your UCLA degree. Why don’t you answer that one, Liar Rod?

Such an illiterate child. UCLA grad? LOL. Wrongness? 3rd grade reading and writing. Plus, our best DB is on offense. Can’t explain that. Can’t explain the big lie either. Keep dodging. Pathetic.

Like I said, enjoy your stupidity. It’s clear you have no life and enjoy reveling in Myle’s misfortune. And do you think I forgot that you earlier criticized Kenny Clark for leaving early? You change course and stories so often. Step up and answer the question. You don’t have the guts.

Myles Jack did not go in the 1st round because it was discovered that he might need micro fracture surgery which is career threatening and may not live out the terms of his 1st contract. It had nothing to do with his talent.

If you can show anyone that you predicted that in advance, then I will say you are right. In fact, in your more recent posts you merely predicted that he wouldn’t “play like a first rounder.”

Those are the facts. You are a proven liar and a self-admitted liar when you finally admitted you weren’t a UCLA grad. Those are the facts, Liar Rod. You will deflect and run away from them as usual because you are a pathetic little troll. Your victory like your UCLA degree is a figment of your imagination.

Real UCLA fans are rooting for Myles Jack while you are boiling some ramen in your trailer. Enjoy. It’s all you’ve got, Your Wrongness!

Laker Rod, too bad you never agreed to the bet, you would have won! Well Myles lost million$ tonight because of an unfortunate injury, but hey, you’re the real winner tonight.

Ugh, agree to disagree. Everything written about Jack today said he was a top 5 talent, but the draft has a lot of variables. I mean, do you honestly believe Tunsil is a lesser tackle than Conklin or Stanley, or was Carson Wentz the 2nd best player in the draft? I will be the first to admit, I was wrong on where Jack would go, but that doesn’t mean he made the wrong decision. Do you really believe that he wouldn’t have gone in the 1st round if he was 100% healthy?

I had an interesting talk about this with my grandpa (UCLA ’52) last night, he see’s this similar to you. I just don’t get how if his knee was an issue how returning to school helps him. In my opinion, the risk of playing another season without getting paid far outweighed the reward of making marginally more next year, as well as extending the time it would take for him to get to the 2nd contract. Either way, good luck Myles, I’ll be rooting for you.

No what wasn’t? and I tried to make a bet, which you would have won and you never agreed to the terms, otherwise my screen name would be “Forever Redshirt” or something.

I think you and I view the world through different lenses, which makes for more enligtining interaction than any echo chamber could provide and in my opinion that makes us both better.

What speculations did I make up? Here is where your generation differs with mine, what is wrong with the easier way out? Easier doesn’t always mean worse or lazy, sometimes its smarter. IMHO, I thought Jack focusing on rehabing with professionals and focusing 100% on football was the better move. What good would it have done for him to stick around to the end of the season? Do you think he will be utilizing anything he learned in the classroom over the next decade?

Neither Barr nor EK had a serious knee injury, it’s not an apples to apples comparison. I would have loved to have MJ back next year, but what if he blew out his knee again like Lattimore and could never play again, would it have been the right move then?

I think Jack will be a great NFL player if healthy, but neither you, I or Dr. James Andrews can predict his future health with any degree of certainty.

I don’t accept mediocrity, I accept reality. UCLA took a several steps backward from 1998 through 2011. Mora has really upgraded the program from where it was, you can’t just stay in the 90’s and say why isn’t UCLA where it was, it doesn’t work that way. I don’t know whether Mora is the guy to lead us into the future, but I can say without any reservation that if / when he leaves the program is in far better shape then when he found it.

I would have loved for Hundley to come back, we might have won it all this year and he might have gone #1 overall this year, which would have made my attempt of supporting an NFL team a lot easier (Rams). But he didn’t stay, I don’t think he would have stayed at any program after his junior year, he and his family had a plan and they followed through on it, although they didn’t anticipate the some of the twist and turns that path provided. Same goes for Benenoch and Duarte (Redmond had like a 1.6 GPA and failed 2 classes in the fall, he was done regardless), but either way I’ll be rooting for all of them.

Congrats again LR, you were right about where MJ would go in the draft. I look forward to a non-argumentitive response, considering that I didn’t really argue with you.

Mediocre would be several levels up from where you live.

Just saw a RS So from Stanford go in the 3rd round. I guess they do have players leave early.

Keep changing your stories. My favorite is how you graduated from UCLA! You are a self proclaimed liar. We all laugh at you and your best DB!

More lies. You really have no life, no wife and no friends. I feel sorry for you. Enjoying a kid’s lifelong dream not being fulfilled because of an injury. You simply have no class and no character.

However, you did invent a new word. Wrongness. You are quite the fool.

UCLA grad! LOL Dodging that question every time. Coward.

Little Rodney is not smart. Originally he said Kenny Clark was a fool to leave school early and now he is Clark’s #1 fan! No class at all.

Way back in spring 2015 or so, I told 88Straight that UCLA was NOT winning any conference championship with a true frosh QB in Josh Rosen. Historical evidence showed true frosh QB’s don’t perform very well. He tried to argue against this claiming Rosen is the exception.

I even told 88Straight and predicted that UCLA would lose their first 2 of 3 conference games. 88Straight tried to argue against this.

I told 88Straight that if it came down to the divisional title between UCLA vs USC that UCLA would not win because UCLA had the true frosh QB and USC had the experienced QB. This was well before the season started. I said that if neither team was playing for the divisional title then I could possibly see UCLA/Rosen beating USC at the Coliseum. 88Straight tried to argue against this also. Look how it ended up. Look at how the true frosh choked when something important was on the line. That is what historically usually happens.

All of my predictions are based off of good historical evidence and logic which is why I end up correct. 88Straight goes off of illogical wish for the best scenarios which is why he always ends up losing.

YOU lost the bet also pertaining to Myles Jack.

He kept changing the terms. He later backed off his 2nd round claim to the “play like a first rounder” bet. He just likes to change it up because he is a pathological liar.

Just trying to keep him honest. Remember, he never wanted to bet based upon where Jack would actually be drafted, because he was afraid some “dumb GM” would draft him in the 1st round. So, he wanted to bet you based upon Jack “playing like a 1st rounder.” Technically, Jack can still “play like a 1st rounder” even as a 2nd rounder. If Jack stays healthy and makes the “all rookie” team, there will be more denials from the little liar.

My main concern is about the OL. If the line develops, it could be a good year. A good QB is important but he needs to be protected. We will see. I was not a Mazzone fan. I was in favor of Mazzone being replaced by KP. I think Mazzone cost UCLA 2-3,games last year. We will see how KP does.

Well, I certainly hope you are right. I would imagine we have new blocking schemes to implement which the line may prefer. We have a good trip of running backs as well. I think some guys will emerge as receivers. The line will be the key. I like your optimism. If the offense can do a better job of possessing the ball it should also help the defense.

Counting on a new comer player has yet to even arrive is not good.

Why are we not able to rely on Scott Quessenberry, Kenny Lacy, and Poasi Moala…at least. Can’t Adrian Klemm develop them?

What’s going on with Zach Batemen? Why did Klemm even bother to get him? If Bunche didn’t develop or blossom and the same for Bateman what makes you think another new guy is going to help.

Interesting. Back in April 2014, when Goines was going through his injury issues…it was reported Poasi Moala was taking 1st team reps. The as usual ignorant UCLA fanbase was claiming at the time that this “newcomer” redshirt frosh would be a starter. LOL!!

Kind of like no different than when it was reported that Andre James was getting 1st team reps and I tried to tell Jack Wang that getting 1st team reps in Spring ball doesn’t mean anything. I showed him what he reported the year before on Poasi Moala. The difference between Thuc Nhi and Mr. Jack Wang is that Wang was more “opinionated” in what he reported. He insinuated based on these 1st team reps that these certain new guys would end up starting. This is no different than the other UCLA reporting sites and the uneducated UCLA fan base as usual buys it.

And Lacy didn’t struggle enough to lose his starting job. Who used to false start more. The main culprits were Redmond and Benenoch and you know it. In fact, Benenoch was struggling at right tackle also. The coaches felt it was better to bring in Kolton Miller at right tackle and move Benenoch inside at RG and move Redmond to LG. So this is how Lacy was no longer starting on the O line.

And the point is this…UCLA has far more guys who don’t develop than teams like Alabama or Stanford, etc. You know it so quit making up excuses for Klemm.

You make it sound like redshirting has no relevance. You’re way off and you know it. Connor McDermott is a grey shirt. He’s from the 2011 class who deferred enrollment just like Jerry Neuheisel did. We’ll see how this one works out also as to where McDermott gets drafted.

And make some sense. Getting drafted or picked up by NFL teams isn’t “the” measure of success for a college football coach or assistant. The measure of success is WINS. The sad fact of the matter is that UCLA has one of the more “talented” teams this past year but yet still couldn’t even with the Pac-12 South. WAKE UP.

And you have no clue what you’re talking about. Having Josh Rosen is a good thing….duh….but we need to get maximum output out of him…got it? And this maximum output isn’t QUANTITY which is what you lame brains are going for. I want QUALITY. This is why the UCLA coaches should have been in the position where Rosen could have redshirted. Don’t you get it? YOU never answer this point. Andrew Luck redshirted. So did Marcus Mariotta. Kevin Hogan stayed all 5 years and won 3 conference championships when he played. He wasn’t the most “talented” QB from an NFL prospect standpoint but Shaw and Stanford got the job done.

What’s better? Winning the conference championship or getting more guys into the NFL? Make some sense. You seem to think getting more guys into the NFL is better.

And 88Straight tried to make a point on how a redshirt sophomore left Stanford early to enter the NFL draft. Stanford won the conference championship DUMMY. That player has earned some right to leave. UCLA players leave early without winning anything.

Stanford guy won a conference championship which is a lot more than any UCLA player can say.

Boss should redshirt. Again shows the lack of depth and poor planning by the coaches.

YOU LOST THE BET. MAN UP. YOU WERE WRONG.

Falling back on the same old lie like it’s something important. LOL!!

You’ve proven how dumb you are. Remember how you were bragging after the first game of the season. LOL!!! HA HA HA!! What a tool! You got slaughtered then and you got slaughtered now related to Myles Jack. I was who’s more embarrassed you or him. LOL!!! It appears to be you. HA HA HA!! BAAHAHAHAAA!!

That same old lie is yours. Man up and own it. Now you are denying that you claimed to be a UCLA grad?

LOL!! Sore loser.

Laker Rod 6
88Straight/ProbationU 0

How would you know what it is like to attend a top flight university? Maybe the ones that left early couldn’t handle being a student? I am sure you can identify with that. At least they won’t have to lie about attending.

Have all your fun but I remember exactly what you said and what I said. Arguing with you is like arguing with a 3 year old that keeps asking why, why, why!

You can’t keep your own version of events straight let alone mine. Let me know when you figure out your version of graduating UCLA.

Juvenile. Lying. Fool.

HA HA! Sore loser. Come on. Man up. Admit YOU WERE WRONG. LOL!!

Laker Rod 6
88Straight/ProbationU 0

Find a new name to change to yet? Wrong88Straight fits you real good. LOL!!!

YOU WERE WRONG. YOU GOT SLAUGHTERED. HA HA HA!!! You claimed Myles Jack would be a 1st rounder. LOL!!!

You were WRONG. LOL!! You made a complete FOOL of yourself. HUMILIATED. CLOBBERED. SLAUGHTERED. HA HA HA!!!

Ignoring how you got HUMILIATED? LOL!!

Remember how I was telling you get ready to eat CROW. How does it taste? HA HA HA!!! YOU WERE WRONG. YOU LOST.

You made total FOOL of yourself insisting Myles Jack would be a 1st rounder. LOL!!! Even after presenting all the evidence to you…I told you your head was stuck in the mud.

YOU GOT SLAUGHTERED. You can even respond to this and you know it. Come on….change the subject as usual and tell us all how important it is where you graduated from. LOL!!!

You ate CROW and you know it. I said Jack deserved to be a 2nd rounder and wasn’t worth the risk as a 1st rounder. I was right. YOU WERE WRONG. YOU GOT SLAUGHTERED yet again. YOU ALWAYS LOSE TO ME. LOL!!

Laker Rod 6
88 Straight / Probation U 0

WRONG! As the draft was taking place…I called you and NYCBruin out. Jack had yet to be picked even after the 20th pick. You like the dummy you are tried to say…no no no…don’t try to make it about him not being in the top 20…you said 2nd round.

I said yup…Jack deserves to be a 2nd rounder. I asked how about you…you said 1st round. The bet was yet again confirmed here. Each pick went by and you were growing more and more nervous and you know it.

4 picks left…I already boldly claimed GET READY TO EAT CROW.

I even counted down further…2 picks left. You being the JELLYFISH and WIMP you are NEVER made any bold response back like Jack will be picked in the 1st round. LOL!!! It’s all there in writing and you know it. YOU GOT CLOBBERED. HUMILIATED. SLAUGHTERED. So did NYCBruin which is why he disappeared.

You being the gutless POS you are…would have been claiming..”you lost the bet…you lost the bet…blah blah blah”…if Jack was taken in the 1st round and you know it. Quit lying. That’s all you’re good for. You’re pathetic. Out of all the dumb Bruin fans I have come across you’re by the worst. You have no ethics at all and you are truly dumb about the sport. You can’t get anything right.

YOU JUST GOT SLAUGHTERED YET AGAIN.

You calling someone a liar is hilarious.

You have lied about what should be the most important parts of your life. You invented a UCLA degree, a job and your wife and family. Enjoy what you think is a win. It isn’t important. You are simply a liar and a loser.

Yes, very brave. After the 25th pick you start making predictions. How courageous of you.

Pardon me, still, super courageous of you, so lifting your position 2/3rds through the first round. You should open a sports book, I’d be happy to make bets midway though the 1st quarter.

All caps. The sign of a juvenile mind.

You had no bet with anyone. The bet you keep referring to was as real as your UCLA degree and your wife. Imaginary.

Or just a poor education…

HA HA. Touched a nerve. Too bad you got slaughtered in your bet against me. I guess there are 36 picks in the 1st round of the NFL draft per you and dumb friend 88Straight. HA HA HA!! LOL!!!

It’s alot simpler than that: his bitterness towards anyone with talent / options is palpable. The amount of time he spent trashing MJ on the far reaches of the web show a clear and unhealthy obsession. Also, consider some of his comments, where he says “due to lack of football knowledge, someone is an embarrassment to UCLA”, that’s insane, think about that statement, then realize this is a 55+ year old guy saying it, just incredible. I think the diagnoses is this: little rodney is a marginalized middle aged white male who never developed the skills to compete in the modern economy, so he spends his days on message boards yelling about immigrants and black kids who would dare leave school early to make more in their first year working than he will in his entire life. The Atlantic had an interesting article on the figurative impotence of unskilled middle age white men, Rodney comes here, so he can feel tough & important, while hiding his true sad and pathetic identity behind a screen name.

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His degree is worthless when it comes to debating football. So is yours. LOL!! Jack 1st rounder. WRONG!

I didn’t change any terms. You wimps wouldn’t even commit. You ended up losing head to head anyways. LOL!!! 1st round vs 2nd round.

I am enjoying this. It’s great witnessing your HUMILIATION first hand. LOL!!! What a poor puny little old man you are in defeat.

Your problem is….you’re always WRONG. HA HA HA!!

The only dumb one is you.

1. You claimed UCLA could win a conference championship with true frosh Josh Rosen. Remember how you were bragging and gloating after the 1st game of the season? LOL!!! HA HA HA!! This truly shows how dumb you are.

2. You claimed Chris Clark could start as a true frosh. LOL!!

3. You argued against me that UCLA would not lost it’s first 2 of 3 conference games.

4. You argued against me that if it came down to the division title for both UCLA and USC…that UCLA would not win. YOU lost yet again.

5. You bet Myles Jack would be a 1st rounder. YOU LOST.

It’s proven who the dumb one. It’s the supposed UCLA graduate. LOL!!! HA HA HA!! Man…I’m enjoying this 🙂 You probably have not slept well in days. LOL!!!

LOL!! Didn’t lose a bet never agreed to? YOU never agreed on the point of if Jack was taken in the 1st round I said he had to play like a 1st rounder. There are plenty of dumb teams who took Manziel in the 1st round and look at what a bust he turned out to be.

The fact is…Jack didn’t even pass the first qualifier bet of him being taken in the 1st round which YOU and 88straight wanted to bet me on. LOL!!! YOU BOTH LOST AND YOU KNOW IT.

And just for you info…I pretty much called the entire season out for UCLA way back like last early summer for 2015.

I predicted UCLA would got 3-0 non-conference. They would lose their first 2 of 3 conference games. So they would already be under the radar but could see them winning the middle games but also losing to Stanford. And also in the end…I said if it came down to the division title against USC….UCLA would not beat USC at the Coliseum with a true frosh QB plain and simple. It would be no different for me to predict that there was no way a USC QB was going to beat UCLA at the Rose Bowl if anything important was on the line for both teams…e.g. conference (in the past) or division title.

Your responses are non-responses. You LOST. Plain and simple.

YOU WERE WRONG. You can’t even man up and admit it. At least NYCBruin did.

LOL!! What a liar. Even within this own thread we settled it. YOU said Jack 1st round and I said 2nd round. YOU LOST.

YOU WERE WRONG. MAN UP

LR works in comic books.