USC v. UCLA

USC v. UCLA

Every time I do an out-of-town radio show, I get asked if Jim Mora’s taken over L.A. I’d rather turn this over to the readers. I don’t think there’s any question Mora’s created buzz that UCLA has not experienced for years. I also think it’s true USC is USC, which means it always hold a special status.

I guess the interesting thing is recruiting doesn’t seem to showing a big edge right now to back up perceptions. But who do you think owns L.A.?

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  • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

    LOL this isn’t even a question. Sure, the “cadre” aka the voices in buckets head think that UCLA own LA because of one win, but the truth is UCLA would have to win at least the next 5 against USC to even be considered the owners of L.A.

    • Bill

      SuC has never won 5 in a row in the whole history of the series, while UCLA won 8 in a row!

      • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

        but what’s the more important stat, streaks or all time records?

        • Joe Blow

          More importantly, how many NCs?
          FightOn, the problem with these tools is that they are obsessed with SC. When Fucla gets close to another NC and a Heisman, I’ll worry. For now, tons of laughs

          • max

            You don’t really have any true national championships, just popularity contests by journalists. Also, you don’t even have 1 BCS title, idiot!

          • Joe Blow

            Then you have zero. Poor slobs from ’54

    • max

      We didn’t cheat to accomplish our victories, so you can take your fraudulent claims elsewhere. I know Spoiled Children don’t understand the value of earning your accomplishments.

      • Joe Blow

        Sam Gilbert. Filthy Woodie. Hostess Nellie On Her Back Belle. RIGHT.

      • sureshot32

        The entire ucla basketball empire was built on a foundation of cheating. You don’t really believe what you write, do you?

  • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

    LOL this isn’t even a question. Sure, the “cadre” aka the voices in buckets head think that UCLA own LA because of one win, but the truth is UCLA would have to win at least the next 5 against USC to even be considered the owners of L.A.

  • Joe Blow

    Here are the facts:
    Last Rose Bowl SC 2009 / ucla 1999
    Last Rose Bowl Victory SC 2009 / ucla 1986
    Last NC SC 2005 / ucla 1954
    Last Conference Champs SC 2004 / ucla 1998
    Last 5 GAMES – Both teams are 2-3

    You pick ‘em Scotty

    • Paul Hackett

      1954 was a half share, does that even count ?
      BCS games ?

      • Joe Blow

        NC is NC. BCS, UPI, AP, etc.

      • Bill

        5 out of the 7 so called national titles for SuC were 1/4 shares. Three other polls had another team as the National Champion! Stick to water polo and women’s track and field! Keep On Kiffin On!

        • Paul Hackett

          They have won 11 Billy

          • Hey SUC’s

            Not in a single elimination style National Championship playoff they haven’t. All SUC”s FB NC’s(unanimous , shared, or in SUC’s case, one NC they claimed unilaterally) are the result of a Coach’s or Newspaper popular vote.
            UCLA actually had to win their BB NC’s on the court (in single elimination tournament competition) against actual opponents.
            SUC’s football legacy is built on the quicksand of popular vote. Not actual playoff competition.
            In actual competition this year SUC’s lost to W. ST. UCLA is undefeated. UCLA is #13 in the AP Poll. SUC’s got no votes. Kiffy the Goat (what a guy) is SUC’s HC. In conclusion, I think it’s fair to say that SUC sucks.

          • Joe Blow

            Just shows how UNPOPULAR Fucla is and will be. Drink some more Kool Aid. We have the same record over the last 5 games. Plus, we don’t CARE about BB. Wake up.

          • Hey SUC’s

            You have good reason not to care about BB. SUC’s is usually in last place in the PAC 12 standings. And now Joey, SUC’s FB team is headed down hill. So you are stuck with Water Polo. Brag on.

          • TrojanFan

            Smile when the flavor changes

            8===D<<<<

          • TrojanFan

            We are all laughing at your pathetic a$$. Move on, on one cares what you have to say.

            What a fool believes!

        • Joe Blow

          Dwad, yours was 1/2

          • Hey SUC’s

            Joey did you flunk 2nd grade arithmetic? No fibbing now.

        • TrojanFan

          Hey bill, how many pancakes come with the breakfast platter?

          PS….any new cartoons?

    • Hey SUC’s

      But Joey, in a 125 years of SUC sports tradition, SUC’s hasn’t not won a BB NC. Now, Water Polo is a different story. Why not brag about Water Polo U for us Joey.

      • TrojanFan

        Quit deflecting the truth. 99.9% of the posts on this blog are football related.

        Borrow a jockstrap from bucket or troll a ruin site if you are looking for some support

    • TrojanFan

      Last BCS game USC 2009/ ucla 1999…pathetic

      USC went to 7 straight …..enough said!

      • Joe Blow

        These guys are tools.

        • TrojanFan

          Beyond TOOLS!

  • Dave Schwartz

    Read Bill Plaschke’s October 25, 2001column in the Times, written a week after the Trojans collapsed at Notre Dame. The essence of the article is it is “Bruin Town.” The rest of the 2001 season was the “Pete Carroll” era. It is cyclical. As a 52 year Trojan season ticket holder – welcome back Bruins. Beban and Simpson were a lot more fun than 50-0

    • Hey SUC’s

      Absolutely. Unbelievable, a rare Trojan with common sense and acute intelligence.

  • Beto Torrealba

    … and yet another way of asking this would be, “Which coach would you want YOUR kid to play for?”

    • sureshot32

      Definitely neither. Mora is a jerk and Kiffin is a moron.

  • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

    HAWR-HAWR!!!

    GOOD ONE, wolfman, classic set up question!!!

    forcing the trOXans to come up with convoluted theories and warped statistics PROVING they aren’t FINISHED as a football power!!!

    UCLA OWNS this TOWN!!!! and we’re gonna put another STAMP on it, come December, you jive turkeys!!!

    • Trojan Hoarse

      “Jive turkey”?….. so now you’re ripping off material from Flip Wilson?…..What’s next?… “Here comes da judge.”?…….”The devil made me buy this dress!” ?

      • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

        Wait ’till i tell by boyfriend, Killuh!!

  • Paul Hackett

    USC owns LA, ucla rents it for a few years when SC can’t hire a competent coach.

    • Stu Azole

      actually Paul, over the past 20 years in total, they’ve pretty much been roommates. 90s dominated by UCLA, 2000s by SC. Today, UCLA.

      • Paul Hackett

        You rent and you know it.

        • UCLA Owns the Rose Bowl

          Downtown you may rent, but in Westwood, we own.

      • Joe Blow

        Facts:

        Here are the facts:
        Last Rose Bowl SC 2009 / ucla 1999
        Last Rose Bowl Victory SC 2009 / ucla 1986
        Last NC SC 2005 / ucla 1954
        Last Conference Champs SC 2004 / 1980ish

  • Sunset Bruin

    Your question will be answered November 30th.

    • Trojan Hoarse

      I agree…. it’s a year to year “rental” of LA…. neither team “owns’ LA……may the better team win…..

      • Hey SUC’s

        After SUC’s 11/30 defeat by UCLA your new handle will be: the Trojan Hearse.

        • Trojan Hoarse

          Clever. …Getting your GED is already paying dividends, I see. …..

          • Hey SUC’s

            You’re so vicious.

          • max

            Whatever Mr. Figueroa Tech. I bet JCs have more difficult classes than those at your second-rate college.

          • Joe Blow

            You mention JCs a lot. Are you angry because they wouldn’t admit you?

          • UCLA Owns the Rose Bowl

            So where’d you go to school, Joe?

          • Joe Blow

            USC Marshall School of Business.
            YOU?

          • Trojan Hoarse

            Fight on!… Class of 83 here!

    • Joe Blow

      Agree

  • EncinitasBruin

    USC owns the past 14 years, UCLA unqeustionably owns the present (higher ranked recruiting class in ’13, better record last year and this year, blue-painted Victory Bell, elite QB, better coach), and the future is unwritten.

    • Joe Blow

      ONE GAME? Kool Aid Kool Aid

  • Golden Trojan

    In front of a microphone and camera, Mora smokes Kiffin, not a contest. In a players living room with his parents, you’d have to talk to players (why don’t you Wolf). USC with sanctions and an uncharismatic coach with the media to hold UCLA even right now is pretty good. UCLA will have to put together 2-3 good seasons with bowl wins to really challenge USC. The Bruins are dialed in right now, we’ll see on 11/30 how far UCLA is rising and USC is falling.

    • Bill

      When UCLA is 12-0 and SuC is a tune up game for the Pac-12 Championship and SuC is at 4-7, it won’t matter. We might even let you win so Kiffin stays for another season!

      • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

        LOL good luck with Oregon, buddy.

      • Joe Blow

        hahahahahahahahahaha
        Somebody help me off the floor. I sides are hurting.

        • ThaiMex

          Just tell T-Fail to “Take it Out”…and the pain will subside in a few moments….Unfortunately, the SMELL will linger.
          fit UN!

          • Joe Blow

            You’d know.

      • Golden Trojan

        As I said, at the end of the game, 11/30, we will know where these two programs are headed and if Kiffin survives another season. Every week will be an adventure for both. Just saying with football UCLA doesn’t have the history that SC has. BB is another story, but Enfield will be changing that.

  • UCLA Owns the Rose Bowl

    The team with the Victory Bell.
    The team that is defending Pac-12 South champs.
    The team with the higher-rated ’13 recruiting class.
    The team currently ranked #13 in the nation.
    The team with the better record last year and this year.
    The team with the elite QB.
    The team with the coach who is a true leader.

    • Joe Blow

      Guess you couldn’t read:

      Here are the facts:
      Last Rose Bowl SC 2009 / ucla 1999
      Last Rose Bowl Victory SC 2009 / ucla 1986
      Last NC SC 2005 / ucla 1954
      Last Conference Champs SC 2004 /

      • UCLA Owns the Rose Bowl

        You, sir, are the one with the reading problem: The question wasn’t “who OWNED L.A. in the last decade,” but “who do you think OWNS L.A.” now. As usual, you are living in the past–all the dates you reference are at least 5 years old.

        • Joe Blow

          Dude, you have never lived in the past. present or future. Your coach is a Pr!ck that will drop you like a hot rock IF he wins 8 games this year and goes to the NFL. I’ll bet you (you leave forever or I will) that BOTH Barr AND Hundley leave after this year.
          Again, Fucla will be in the outshouse.

          • UCLA Owns the Rose Bowl

            Touched a nerve, didn’t I, Joe?

          • Joe Blow

            No, you’re just ignorant.

          • max

            You’re just a fool who went to a JC and tries validate his life by pretending he went to the University of Second Choice.

          • Joe Blow

            Wrong, but don’t care what a bagel thinks.

          • TrojanFan

            “What a fool believes”

          • Trojan Hoarse

            you definitely touched something, but it wasn’t a nerve!

          • Hey SUC’s

            I believe you did. It’s not hard is it?

          • TrojanFan

            NO!….But bucket said you can touch this 8=D(actual size)

          • EncinitasBruin

            Since Barr is a senior, Owns will probably win that bet….

          • Joe Blow

            Shows how dumb you are. Hahahaha

        • TrojanFan

          Dude, at the very least, win a conference title before you put the pretty little dress on

          • UCLA Owns the Rose Bowl

            Dude, at the very least, win a Pac-12 SOUTH division title, before you put your pretty little dress on.

          • TrojanFan

            Fucing lame. We already have our hardware

            Just

            Slow down on the koolaid, you look like a fool

            …..and by the way 50-0, we won the 2011 south, for you guys to claim it is pathetic

      • max

        Cheating doesn’t count, so don’t try to claim any “victories” which were nullified by the NCAA. Cheat Carroll never did win any BCS championships, did he? Apparently, they don’t teach history or any other subject well at just SC.

        • Joe Blow

          Don’t care. AP is fine. We’ve vacated MORE than you’ve won.

    • TrojanFan

      You try way too hard!

      It’s pointless on a USC blog, idiot!

      • EncinitasBruin

        TF, it seems that whever you say a Bruin poster “tries too hard,” it’s because he or she is stating truths that bother you. Just one man’s opinion.

        • TrojanFan

          2-12, and no conference title in 14 years, that’s the TRUTH. Guess what part of that bothers me?

          Save the pretty dress for some real

  • WEB_Dupree

    Which school’s blog is more bedeviled by the other school’s trolls?

    • EncinitasBruin

      That’s debatable. Have you seen some of the pre-pubescent drivel from Joe Blow, Trojan Fan, etc over on Wang’s blog?

      • Joe Blow

        Big Wang is the man

        • Trojan Hoarse

          And Wang has a less biased approach to his blog….

          • Joe Blow

            Totally agree.

      • WEB_Dupree

        I visit Wang’s UCLA blog from time to time. These days, there are more UCLA fans over here than over there. Without readers’ responses to Joe Blow’s shenanigans, Wang would get about five reader comments a day.

        At least Wang answers readers’ questions, though. Wolf solicited readers’ questions several weeks ago and then just ignored them all (even the ones that weren’t insults).

        • EncinitasBruin

          I agree that Wang is a better journalist, and less biased. He’s a good writer and takes a reporters dispassionate view, rather than throwing in his personal opinions like Wolf.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            That’s because he’s a Cal guy and doesn’t care about UCLA.

  • LamontRaymond

    UCLA’s best players were brought in by Rick – it’ll take another class or for Jimmie to make his bones.

    • EncinitasBruin

      True in terms of Hundley, Barr, Zumwalt, etc. But, Mora brought in Fitts, Vanderdoes, Myles Jack, Massington, Asiantii Woulard, Christian Morris, Isaac Savalinaiea, Cameron Judge, Priest Willis, Tahaan Goodman, Caleb Benenoch, Thoman Duarte, in last year’s class. All those guys were either 4 or 5 star recruits in a Top 10 class.

      • LamontRaymond

        Good gets, no doubt. But those guys aren’t driving the team’s success right now. You don’t see SC touting Kenny Bigelow as the world-beater when he’s probably going to red shirt.

        • UCLA Owns the Rose Bowl

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  • Brad Hutchings

    Jay Mohr owns Los Angeles. Scott, you need to come back on and talk USC football again. You were one of the first “Ultimate Mohrriors”.

  • Bill

    it doesn’t look like scholarship restrictions have been hurting SuC; just decommits and overhyped players who stay. Even if SuC had their full 25, they have only 7 commitments right now.
    Keep On Kiffin On!

    • sureshot32

      It’s actually the coach who’s hurting SC. The players are doing just fine. Last year it was Kiffin Sr. This year, it’s Kiffin Jr.

      Still, even with a bad coach and undeserved sanctions, USC still owns LA and will forever more.

  • steveg

    Why would anyone want to own L.A. What a nightmare. USC has always been #1 and always will be, irregardless of what stupid stats and and opinions of stupid jucla trolls. Just the way it is, deal with it.

    • UCLA Owns the Rose Bowl

      38-28. Deal with it.

    • Hey SUC’s

      This stupid Bruin fan knows there is no such word “Irregardless.” Not only is not a word, it is also ignorantly used as a redundant substitute for regardless. Ignorant on tevey.

      • max

        Stop cutting and pasting from Google you uneducated Trogan!

  • Ted

    southern cal should own LA still but here is the calculation.

    Football only.

    Coaching

    Mora > Kiffin
    Ucla assistant coaches > Usc assistant coaches

    Offense

    Hundley > Kessler +Wittek+Browne
    Usc Receivers > Ucla Receivers
    Ucla OLine > Usc OLine
    Ucla RBs = Usc RBs

    Defense

    Ucla DL > Usc DL
    Ucla LB > Usc DB
    Ucla DBs = Usc DBs

    Special Teams

    USC Kicker = UCLA Kicker
    Ucla punter > Usc punter
    Usc Punt return > Ucla Punt return
    Kickoff Return does not matter in the days of 90% touch backs.

    Recruiting and Intangibles

    Ucla Fan support > Usc Fan support
    Ucla Team Moral > Usc Team Moral
    Ucla Recruiting > Usc Recruiting (sanctions are tough)

    Comparing Apples to Apples UCLA is superior then USC at this point.

    UCLA 10-2-3 to USC 3-2-10

  • Fred Sampson

    USC could easily maintain their status of being # 1 in the Los Angeles area but the Administration at that School takes their reputation for granted, and for what ever reason have a horrible track record of hiring the right Coaches. They actually think any Coach can take over any of their programs because they are USC……NOT !! UCLA thought the same thing with their Football program until they finally came to their senses and hired a Coach that did not have any Alumni ties.