USC v. Texas: Which Job Is Bigger?

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There was plenty of debate during the regular season about which job was bigger and better? Now that Mack Brown appears to be on his way out, we are going to find out.

There are reports Texas will make a run at Steelers coach Mike Tomlin and 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh and the persistent Nick Saban speculation. USC hired Steve Sarkisian.

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  • ThaiMex

    The most RUTHLESS VATO in all of Norte America (yup, that includes Los Angeles) has gotta be El Lobo!!!! Southern Cal…(I don’t want to upset el pinche moderator) started off the search process by mentioning potential head coaching targets like, Cowher, Gruden, Dungy & Lombardi (Mercedes like) and ended up with Sarkiffian (a Yugo)! Let’s see if the rest of the country laughs at the TEXAS hire like they have at the Southern Cal hire.

    Fit UN YESTERDAY U!

    • Jethro G Sabbath

      4 AM. SWEET!

      • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

        Watch it Jezro, the Cadre has a low tolerance for Jibber Jabber right now.
        Do you really want to be Jezro P. Sabbath???

      • TrojanFan2.0

        When Dementia is in charge and you live in a basement with no windows it’s hard to tell time! Must suck to be him!

        • HeySUCs

          Why are your Chihuahua eyes so close.

          • TrojanFan2.0

            Why is your hose so long?

          • ThaiMex

            Why are your eyes sooo close together? We are a compassionate bunch. Trust us. We are your friends.
            fit UN!

          • TrojanFan2.0

            Go back to bed and reflect on your terrible behavior

    • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

      Thai, someone mustta poured a whole bottle of Tapitio in your menudo today, cause you are EN FUEGO!!!!
      (ON FIRE!!!)

      NOT ONE top line coach took Hadden seriously!!! So he PANICKED and called the one girl he KNEW would go to prom with him!! (The chubby one)

      • Cheap seats

        If you’re going to role play different screen names, you should at least change the writing style!

        • TrojanFan2.0

          It was actually yellow fluid in the cheerios….ouch!

          Dementia is some nasty stuff!

    • TrojanFan2.0

      Only a FANatic would be posting about his favorite team at 4:00 am…..Still mad when they denied you

      PS….FIGHT ON!

  • LTEfan

    Good luck to the Texas Longhorns in getting Harbaugh away from the 49ers. They are moving into a new stadium next season, and can and will pay whatever he wants to stay. He left Stanford for a job in the Bay Area because he likes it there, and he wants to coach in the NFL. He is at the pinnacle of the profession, highly successful in 2+ seasons, and isn’t going to make a backwards move in his career. That will be a short phone call.

  • Goatboy Kiffin

    But Sark is great … just ask him. But don’t watch a Washington game film or SC offense in 2007-2008. Those will tell you a different story. This moron will be a bigger bust than Kiffin.

    • Golden Trojan

      And who should have been hired, genius?

      • Spedjones

        well, watch who Texas hires and then come back to discuss.

        • TrojanFan2.0

          Go to bed, know who you are. pathetic!

        • Golden Trojan

          Austin is not LA, Texas is not USC. The right fit for one is not necessarily right fit for the other.

    • TrojanFan2.0

      Relax dude! you have your banana hammock all twisted-up….ouch! Give Sark a chance before you nail him to the cross. Are you related to Debbie Downer?

      PS…. Kiffin is in the rear view-mirror, your username is LAME!….You might want to update it!

      • gotroy22

        Sarkiffian is now Jesus? You rah rahs never fail to entertain.

    • sureshot32

      Yeah, that 2008 offense was terrible. USC ended each season with the same number of losses as the SEC national championship game entrant. SC just needed a Tebow-esque speech from Sanchez. In 2007, a thumb injury to Booty and inadequate preparation of Sanchez by Carroll cost USC a birth in the NCG – not the offense.

      That said, Haden should have hired Petersen.

      • gotroy22

        Losing to 41 point underdog Stanford cost us you mean. Who put Booty back in with Sanchez on the bench?

        • sureshot32

          Who cares about the spread? The spread is just a fabrication to get as many gamblers to put money on the game as possible. In retrospect, a Jim Harbaugh coached team should never be a 41 point underdog in any situation. Now that we know what we know about Stanford and Jim Harbaugh, the correct spread for that game should have been closer to 20 points (USC did beat Stanford by about 20 on the Farm the next year).

          2007 saw Pete at his most hubristic. He decided not to get points at the end of the first half and then kept Booty in there despite having Sanchez on the bench because he never played him in any meaningful situations.

  • Booyakasha

    Harbaugh won’t answer the call. Tomlin will answer the call and say NO. It doesn’t matter who they make a run at, it matters who they get. I think they buy Art Briles out of his contract.

    • gotroy22

      I was disappointed SC didn’t go for a former successful NFL head coach, it wouldn’t surprise me if Texas goes that route.

      • Booyakasha

        Gruden wasn’t interested. Cowher has said he is done with coaching. I wish they had interviewed successful NFL coordinators like Greg Roman or Mike Zimmer or Pep Hamilton.

        • Cheap seats

          Would you prefer another coordinator-type of coach?

          I once thought that was the way to go until Coach O’s stint showed us how the facilitator-type can be very successful.

          Gruden called plays in both stints as a HC, but he also had the rah rah and motivator personality to go with it.

          • Booyakasha

            I think the whole rah-rah thing is grossly overrated. Being rah-rah is not necessarily a part of being a good coach. Just look at Saban.
            I really wouldn’t mind another coordinator type coach. If he can understand the game well, make half-time adjustments and get the players to understand what he’s trying to accomplish then that’s the coach I want.
            Kiffin failed because he was a terrible play caller and his game plans were too cute. And he hired the worst O line coach in Cregg.

          • Cheap seats

            Rah rah is not the best description — I actually had Saban part of the “facilitator-type”.

            My point was that I don’t think the coach who overemphasizes Xs and Os doesn’t do too well at the college level.

      • TrojanFan2.0

        WHY?

        • gotroy22

          Because it worked with Pete Carroll. Instead they went for his hoops buddy who never accomplished anything of note.

          • TrojanFan2.0

            Fourth choice was a crapshoot!

  • Trojandn

    Who cares who they call? We have our Coach and it is time to move foward. I hope they get who they want and that both teams get back into national contention so that we can meet them on the field – we owe them one…

  • Spedjones

    ESPN throwing Mora in as one of the best choices. BUT NOT SO FAST MY FRIENDS – we hear Sarknado may get the call! #thingsnobodyissaying

    • TrojanFan2.0

      Hey spud, bed time, the 4:00 am trolling must have in worn out!

      • Spedjones

        Shmore time.

        • Golden Trojan

          I guess he thinks you live in Hawaii, sweet for you Sped.

          • TrojanFan2.0

            Wrong!…..The IE so nowhere near HI

    • TrojanFamily

      Why would Mora leave? He got an extension, a raise, and in ready to be canonized for making the same bowl that shoulda gotten Kiffin fired. He’s in an ideal spot. All he has to do is make a bowl and beat USC and UCLA will keep backing up the Brinks truck.

      At Texas they compete for national championships, not for a berth in the Sun Bowl.

      • rusoviet

        Well said and what happens if Frank Beamer and the VA Tech beats Mora on New Year’s Eve?

  • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

    Saban is going to Texas. It’s already a done deal.

  • Ron Fleishman

    The Wolfie bashing continues… does it ever stop?

    • Cheap seats

      It stops when Wolf wants it to. Just in case you haven’t figured it out, Wolf INTENTIONALLY solicits these type of responses (and trolls) with his blog.

      He’s trying hard to get the Jim Rome treatment that Jim Everett gave him. Unlike Rome, his confrontation on TV got him famous.

      Wolf getting kicked out of practice did nothing for him.

      • Spedjones

        nope, he’s trying to get clicks on his blog. And you fools play right along!

        • Cheap seats

          You’re not smart enough to figure out that you’re included in that group of “fools”.

          Even worse…you TROLL the so-called fools.

          Tell me who’s the idiot? 400+ post count all trolling posts. What a waste of life.

          I sincerely hope that someday, you can actually strive to INSPIRE someone rather than lurking a USC message board trying to ruin someone’s day.

          But you won’t do it. I’ll tell you WHY: Because it’s too freakin HARD for your thin skinned brain. Unlike picking up on a woman, trolling has ZERO risks.

          So, go ahead and bring your post count up to 1000+. Spend 10 hours a day here.

          Just don’t expect it to get you anywhere in life.

          • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

            cheaps, why so serious?

            have a beer with lunch today.

          • Jethro G Sabbath

            Step one: Incessantly poke and prod people until they respond.

            Step two: Ask why they are so angry.

          • WEB_Dupree

            You forgot “Repeat as often as possible.”

          • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

            i’m not sure you guys are cut out for the rough and tumble world of big time Pac12 sports blogging.

            this ain’t your Indiana Cotillion class.

          • TrojanFamily

            Trolling ain’t blogging

          • TrojanFan2.0

            Please reissue the memo

          • gotroy22

            Step three: watch the control freak rah rahs rage!

          • steveg

            Step 4: go to cadre meeting for more direction.

          • TrojanFan2.0

            Step 5: when all else fails, reach for the 9mm….BANG!

          • Cheap seats

            Who’s Manuel A Huerta?

          • TrojanFan2.0

            Bucket had to bring back some of his old misfits, pathetic

            The 9mm is all he needs

          • FightON

            Best post ever.

        • TrojanFan2.0

          So what’s your excuse?

        • TrojanFan2.0

          Clicks?…you mean a swing dic!

          • Cheap seats

            Clicks? I think there’s only 5-6 UNIQUE clicks per day.

            100,000 clicks from Bucket doesn’t get counted even if he uses 100 screen names.

            One a serious note, if you compare the traffic of a REAL USC blog like 247sports with the “real Scott” Schaeder, there’s no comparison.

  • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

    another difference between the schools is, the Texas campus does not smell like urine.

    • TrojanFamily

      Please change your diaper. You keep smelling urine but you don’t do anything about it. We may have to call social services since it’s becoming a nuisance

      • TrojanFan2.0

        He’s the new poster child for Depends. There is no excuse for the constant soiled diaper. Corporate should know about this…ouch!

      • ThaiMex

        Happens every time I go near that Dump on Figueroa 2-3 times a year. You see…I suffer from claustrophobia and the occasional visit to a USC Home basketball game helps settle me down. I gotta wonder if all those women covering their faces are “middle eastern” or they too are offended by the odor?

        fit UN!

        • TrojanFan2.0

          Basketball games?.. confused again! We all know you’re notorious for trolling the men’s showers around the McKay center

    • steveg

      Is that why you never go there?

      • TrojanFan2.0

        He keeps smelling his upper lip and gets confused! Dementia is some nasty stuff

    • TrojanFamily

      By the way, it is painfully clear you have neither been to USC nor ever been downtown. Try hopping the blue line to the Expo line and check it out. You’ll stop making such a fool of yourself.

  • Bill Simons

    I love the analogy. Texas goes with an NFL coach and we go with a barely-above .500 guy.

  • TrojanFamily

    I’d be shocked if Saban leaves Alabama. I think he and his agent are just using this job to get a bigger payday out of Tuscaloosa.

    Texas has always been the bigger job. No school in the country save for Notre Dame gets the revenue like Texas does with the Longhorn network. The Big 12 lets Texas keep all the revenues while the PAC 12 insists on sharing all TV revenues. It is why the PAC 12 couldn’t get Texas to jump a few years back. It was Garrett’s constant complaint against the conference when USC had its run in the BCS and constantly on ABC. Any new coach in Texas is going to have resources that any other school outside of South Bend would kill for.

    Now that doesn’t diminish the fact that Haden settled for his coach. This is Haden’s MO. He has no real vision for USC. He is simply managing the athletic department rather than seeking to transform it. He settled terribly for baseball. He rolled the dice on basketball but the expectations are so low, there was little downside. Sark is a safe hire. He won’t flame out like Kiffin. But he’s not a transformative coach like Gruden or an NFL guy. He’s not a high profile guy like Petersen. He’s just….safe. 8 wins in bad years, the occasional 10 wins when he has the right veteran players.

    • sureshot32

      8 wins in bad years. Occasionally 10 or 11. Sounds about right. Petersen would have been my pick.

    • gotroy22

      It’s sad but true to see Texas is the bigger program.

      • Arturo

        Bigger, but not better.

    • rusoviet

      That’s a ridiculous statement – no one leaves the NFL to coach college ball – it’s factual to go from the NFL to college is a full 2/3 rd drop in income and only coaches trying to resurrect their sorry backends go from the pros to the college ranks to get re-considered for the pros – watch Mora move on just as PC did and Saban wants to to get rid of his awful term with the Dolphins. Gruden has no interest in any college job – strictly looking at the pros the LA Times today laid out the lack of headaches of being a pro coach – NO RECRUITING NO FUNDRAISING!

      • TrojanFamily

        Saban and Spurrier did….Pete did. Mora did. I always knew Gruden was a long shot but guys like Lovie Smith or Ken Whisenhunt would not have been…..

        • rusoviet

          You’re not being factual TF – both Spurrier and Saban ‘first’ coached at FL and LSU respectively ‘before’ they went onto the pros – both failed badly and both returned to college ball

  • FightON

    Tomlin is bad news, especially after the sideline incident. Did he really step on the field purposefully? I’m not sure. However, his past has been checkered with cheating scandals. Plus, who has he brought in? His team is looking old and it doesn’t appear that he has set them up well for the future without their stars.

    Harbaugh? Why would he leave? He has set himself up in NorCal. Plus, he seems to enjoy the NFL and has had some success doing it. The 49ers are looking good and the organization has a lot of money.

    I can see Saban leaving. The UT system is massive, has a lot of money and Longhorns are serious about their football. Plus, the Big 12 is easier than the SEC (sorry, not sorry). Sure, there are some up and coming teams, but do we really think Baylor is going to be a long-term powerhouse? Plus, how consistent has OU been?

    Give Bama fans credit, though: they don’t have professional sports teams so they are very loyal to football. Denny is a crazy stadium to be in around a bunch of Tide fans (I say this as an avid LSU fan).

    Sark was hired because Haden did not want to take a chance on a no name coach. He also wanted someone who would potentially stay. The Harbaugh/Tomlin types would go right back to the NFL is given the chance.

    • rusoviet

      Are you kidding? Tell me when any MO team was 11-1 – any! Look at TX A&M the past two years – they both were floor mats in the Big 12 – they hit the ‘Moonshine Conference’ and blamo – two years running at the top of that Potemkin Village. Why because their commissioner Slieve has rigged it so they only play 6 ‘in conference’ and then line up such as – ‘Furman’ ‘Charleston So.’ ‘ TN-Chanttanooga’ FL A&M etc..

      Sark was hired because Haden saw what Sark did at WA and that Sark knows the LA basin for recruits – give it a time to rise and quit looking at the ‘glitter’

      • Cheap seats

        Sark probably knew exactly what Haden wanted to hear.

        Do you think Kiffin was giving Sark interview tips?

  • B.Miller

    BASED ON MONEY..
    TEXAS ALL DAY! Remember they have their own network!

  • FightON

    One more point: Haden will be judged on the success of the Texas coach. If Texas pulls in a big sexy name (or, at the very least, a name that is perceived to be sexy) like Saban or Harbaugh, Haden will immediately field questions of why he did not bring in those names. If said new coach is successful AND Sarkisian is average to unsuccessful, Haden will be in big trouble.

    As I’ve said, there are high expectations at USC. USC wants to build, build, build and they need to the money from donors. Donors pay more when football is winning. You bet Nikias is pressuring Haden right now and Haden is silently hoping he made the right hire.

    • rusoviet

      Nikias is doing nothing to Haden – nothing! That’s the kind of idiocy that is at other programs. Nikias watched an unapproachable control freak arrogantly dictate access to his office and interaction – Mike Garrett.

      Quit whining about Troy not getting (fill in the blank) and relax – Briles is happy at Baylor and no other coach in that conference is going to Austin – none of them – they all universally hate TX because TX wrecked the Big 12 it’s why CO and NE got out as well as MO and TX A&M.

      Good riddance to Mack ‘Jimmah cracked corn and I don’t care’ Brown and his whining back in 2004 getting all his ‘bro bubbas’ to vote his lousy team ahead of Cal for the Rose Bowl. One of the actual voters in that year’s ESPN-USAToday Poll was his own borther who was the HC @ AL-Birmingham.

      Love to see Saban make this mistaken move (he won’t) and then find out he has to actually play outside the Confederacy and on the road for OOC.

      • FightON

        I’m whining? Not really. Your last two replies show you really haven’t read what I’m saying (Of course Saban wouldn’t be an idiot to ditch the tough SEC to go to a cupcake sitting atop the Big 12 – duh). I’m saying what anyone clued into USC knows: it’s all about the money (as it is for any university), but especially USC given the goals Nikias has set.

        Have you been around USC for the last five years? Because I have and I’ve seen the difference between Sample and Nikias. Nikias needs the cash. There is pressure on Haden’s coaching decisions to bring in the cash.

        I’m also telling the common sense of the situation: Haden will be judged on what Texas does. Period. You may not like it, but it will happen. Watch the articles on this site/ESPN/LA Times/whoever if Texas hires a sexy name and Sark is doing average.

  • Arturo

    Depends on the man’s ego.

  • steveg

    Texas won’t get Saban, Alabama will enlarge his deal with them and keep him there. Why should he leave someplace where they think he walks on water.