USC’s Latest Recruiting Rankings

The Trojans are now No. 35 in Scout.com’s latest recruiting rankings and No. 42 by Rivals.com.

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  • FightON

    LOL. Before the trolls get all excited.

    ASU is ranked first in the PAC12 by Rivals. But the way teams are ranked is weird (it’s by point system). ASU has 5 4 star and 12 3 star. USC has 8 4 star and 4 3 star, so a better ratio of better quality players (if you believe the star system). Oregon, Stanford, and UCLA all have better classes than ASU, IMO. (But, they have less commits, though they have better ratios of 4 to 3 star).

    USC has the highest average stars on Rivals – so be proud Trojans. Stanford is in second in average followed by Oregon and UCLA.

    USC is also in the tied for top ten average on scouts.

    • Joe Blow

      FightOn, how could you spoil the day for bucket, suc, thainbean, spud, etc? Shame on you.

      • Spedjones

        LOL. Nobody at UCLA is worried about the “talent” SC is pulling in. We’ve seen it over and over – Su’a the 5* or Jack the 4*? All those 5* OL guys who never play or the 3 and 4* freshmen guys who just whipped SC? FIT UN!

        • TrojanFamily

          You might be right, Chuckles, but how would you know what UCLA is thinking? Tell us the rankings of your alma mater, the University of Phoenix.

          • Cheap seats

            I thought that was Chuckles!

          • Spedjones

            you went to CSUN, didn’t you?

          • Spedjones

            oh burn! Good one! OUCH!

        • Wisdom

          Obviously you know nothing about football. Su’a is a great player (as is Jack from three yards out of the end zone). Your three freshmen OL killed you this year, but you probably never watched SUCLA play. After all, your mom doesn’t pay for cable in her basement where you spend all day and night trolling this blog in your pajamas smoking your hippy weed…

          • Spedjones

            LOL. Jack was the freshman DEFENSIVE player of the year too. And no, our OL did just fine, including against SUC. I remember when my boy Caleb put that trogan on his knees with one quick shot! Classic stuff!

          • Wisdom

            Allow me to educate you kid. Your entire offense was built around your weak offensive line. You see, this is where SUCLA fans get excited over one play in a 9-3 season as if they’re in Nirvana, and why SC > SUCLA. We have the tradition, the pageantry, the success, the academics, and no gov’t handouts to fund our school. Face it, you’re our kid brother who jumps up and gets lucky once in a while with a 9-3 season….

          • ProbationU

            So public education is a handout? Interesting thought process. Pageantry doesn’t win games. We successfully hid our deficiencies and it resulted in a win. They call that coaching. Those 3 freshman will just keep getting better and better. If SC had hid their deficiencies better they wouldn’t have spent a good portion of the game with Barr and Marsh in the backifield. Did your coach really think Chad Wheeler could contain Barr? Good coaches scheme for that stuff.

            By the way, Jack was both offensive freshman of the year and defensive freshman of the year. Very rare accomplishment. Please keep underestimating the Bruins. It will be appreciated on the field.

          • Wisdom

            UCLA does receive a substantial handout. You don’t operate your school as well as USC operates their university, plain and simple. If pageantry didn’t matter, then why the eight crap? Why the loser towel waiving guy on your sideline? Jack winning freshman of the year awards is great, but not substantial. So what if he could run the ball in from three yards out (BTW, most of the time AWAY from your three freshman). Sure your coaches did a decent job against us, too bad they didn’t do so in your THREE losses that you trolls mistakenly call a remarkable season…

          • Spedjones

            Here’s the rub, chump – nobody at UCLA thinks this was a remarkable season. It was good. It’s better than what we got under our last 3 coaches. But it’s just a start. Keep your head in the sand, but 35-14 don’t lie! WOTT!

          • Wisdom

            Haha – did you say Woot? Ugh, another stroll who ditched school today captain? Look, saying this is the “start” is far different than actually doing it. Just ask yourself why now is any different than the last three coaches when you said the exact same thing? Silly chimp, you think Zmora era is greater than PC era (or Robinson era, or McKay era, or Jones era, etc., etc.)! Woot Woot! And Jack is best football player in nation? Woot, woot, woot! Wait till Hundley goes pro woot, woot, woot, woot! Boom, woot, wow this is stupid…

          • Spedjones

            no, no, the start is 2 in a row over the once-mighty, now-sad Torgans. 9 wins last year, likely 10 this year, 3 freshman AA’s, 18 freshmen who played regularly, coaching staff fully in tact, top-5/10 recruiting classes year after year, victory speeches in front of SC’s locker room, SC’s recruits celebrating with UCLA after the game – it’s all happening right before your eyes! Then again, you have Sarknado, so there’s that! 35-14! WOTT!

          • Wisdom

            The only thing I see before my eyes is a troll. You just don’t get it – you’re surfing an SC blog! Anything exceeding ZERO posts makes NO sense. So pathetic!

          • Spedjones

            you’re an Ivy grad – how does that get you in here again? But thanks, it warms my heart to get lectured about blog posting by a blog poster.

          • Wisdom

            SC MBA – of course you couldn’t figure that out for yourself. WOOT x infinity!

          • Spedjones

            LOL. Marshall is great! Not as great as Anderson, but with all SC vs. UCLA, that goes without saying. (I’d ask you to go get me a ranking showing me I’m wrong here, but we both know where that would lead – doesn’t exist). I think even SC fans here would agree that the only thing more annoying than a CSUN fan jumping on the SC football band wagon is a grad student doing it. Perhaps you need to go back to rooting for Brown’s football team.

          • ProbationU

            Well Mr. or Ms. Wisdom…assume Mr. based upon the ego displayed…given that it is a “public” school, of course the taxpayers subsidize. THAT is what public means. It is idiotic to compare public and private institutions. UCLA is the most applied to school in the country. There were over 85,000 applications a couple of years ago. Public schools have different missions.

            Private schools also receive public subsidies. The last time I checked, donations are tax-deductible, which means a portion of those donations are subsidized by the taxpayer. I would be willing to bet that your science and medical researchers submit for both public and private grants. And again, private grants come from donated money that is tax deductible. So, you may want to scrap some of that holier than thou attitude.

            Now, to clarify, if you think I have something against private schools, you would be incorrect. My youngest daughter attends a private university. We all preferred the smaller class sizes, more personal attention and she was awarded an academic scholarship which made the cost the same or slightly less than a public school.

            Regarding football…the towel waver has been gone for several years. And that is waver…not waiver. And, nobody is calling it a remarkable season. However, 9-3 against the 3rd toughest schedule in the country while playing 18 freshman and 3 true freshman on the OL is not bad. Plenty to build on.

          • Wisdom

            It’s Mr. to you (and Ms. to Bucket!). I will agree with your reasonable assessment of your football program as well as your indirect admission that a private USC is better than a public UCLA. Just so you know, applications don’t mean anything compared to the yield (the number of applications accepted that in turn actually attend the university.) UCLA is far below the top universities. So you see, many of the trolls must “spin” facts to make themselves feel better, and you sir (or ma’am) are no different. BTW, thanks for pointing out the correction feature on my phone misspelled waver…

          • Spedjones

            yes, I mean, everyone who goes to SC (and nobody else) says so! I’ll go back to my challenge of yesterday – find me ONE, just ONE, college ranking that puts USC ahead of UCLA. Just one. But let me help – don’t start at US News, Forbes, or ANY of the International rankings, because you won’t find your answer there. Good luck!

          • FightON

            Not one UCLA troll here has accepted the brain drain to USC. Oops.

            In other news, CSUF is missing their village idiot and I found him here. Several, actually.

          • Spedjones

            Haha, brain drain? SC’s improvement (and yes, even I will admit it’s not as bad as it was even in the 90s) has been nice, but it’s not made a dent at UCLA. Unlike the talent drain that’s occurred in football since Mora arrived! WOTT!

          • rusoviet

            I’m guessing, if you did attend UCLA, you have a degree in ‘gender studies’ or ‘women studies’ – you don’t? Man well listen sailor a few more years of that {@990trice idiocy and it’s going to be funny as the entire house of cards starts fighting over the state financing – nothing beats wtaching a bunch of feminazis, econazis and castratonazis going at each other – let the glbt games begin!

          • Wisdom

            You once again haven’t done your research – SC is climbing while sUCLA is dropping (they’re rated the same but going in opposite directions). SC = dynamic ascension!!!

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            But when that argument’s applied to UCLA’s benefit in football, it’s nonsense, right?

            (There is one difference: UCLA is actually dominating USC on the gridiron now.)

          • Spedjones

            Starting at the bottom makes it much easier to climb! It’s ironic that “improving” in this instance is impressive, but when we discuss the state of the two football programs, improvement is irrelevant and tradition trumps all!

            But back to my challenge – fine me a ranking that has SC over UCLA. And here’s where I win, because I can show you plenty of rankings with UCLA on top in football and academics! WOTT

          • Cheap seats

            Yes… and YOU are the pride of UCLA?

            A TROLL that spends all day on a USC message board?

            How the heck could you make ANY argument or criticize a ANYONE when YOU are a troll?

            50+ posts today when you could’ve been doing something useful with your life?

          • Spedjones

            this is the best. a guy posting about a guy who posts. it takes literally 10 minutes of my day to rile you guys up. Coffee and WOlfie’s board is how I start EVERY DAY! WOTT!

          • Cheap seats

            No sir — THAT was the best!

            Did you seriously just say “I only troll a little” ??

            Just like saying I’m not a heroin user saying, “I’m not a druggie…I only do it ONCE per day.”

            Get a life, troll. Let’s see if you can post 100 today.

            OR….you can actually do something productive with your life.

          • Spedjones

            Oh no, I troll. And it’s fun. And you argue with a troll. Now THAT’S the BEST!

          • Cheap seats

            Of course it’s fun to someone in your state. Your hate is a reflection of your life.

            Again…I hope you someday do something productive with your life.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            USC is an excellent institution.

            I’m not saying it’s better than UCLA, which is elite academically and athletically, but it’s still a fine school and it confers many benefits on its alumni.

            (By the way, both UCLA and USC have the same number of football national championships: zero.)

          • ProbationU

            Yield is more important to private universities…again you can’t compare. Both have their attributes and the UC system is the best public university system in the country. If you look at rankings, you would see SC and UCLA tied in US News and UCLA significantly ahead or SC in Forbes.

            How do you figure that funding public education is a “handout.” Sounds like a typical right-wing, Fox News reading of education…and that like many that espouse those views, you probably have made your money the old-fashioned way, inherited it. People that have actually worked hard to earn their way in life have more humility. Had you had the misfortune to be born to an orange picker in Bakersfield, you would probably be picking oranges too. Get over yourself.

          • Wisdom

            Your condescending tone is remarkable for a person preaching humility. Don’t mischaracterize my superior logic as unfounded arrogance. Also, you made a tremendous amount of inaccurate assumptions about me. I went to an Ivy League school and was the first in my family to earn a college degree. I also worked in the admissions office – EVERY school places a significant emphasis on yield, it demonstrates selectiveness, the exact point you failed to make with your weak number of applications argument you made earlier, an argument that fell flat. BTW, I’m a self made man who has a successful track record of launching different businesses who is socially moderate to liberal but fiscally conservative on most issues. You see, unlike you, I look at each issue and decide for myself rather than regurgitate Bill Maher’s talking points. While you’re busy Spending my tax dollars to educate the orange picker’s illegal son for free so your bleeding heart can feel better. Get over yourself you self-righteous, non free thinking fool….

          • ProbationU

            Not at all a liberal…just someone who can recognize an attitude of superiority when I see it. Every word you type out is a display for your arrogance and ego…glad you are an Ivy. Wow!

            And the Ivies don’t benefit from “any” special privileges. And yes…the arrogance is not unfounded…clearly on display. I am sure you “earned” it all and had no help.

          • Wisdom

            “Not at all a liberal…just someone who can recognize an attitude of superiority when I see it.” Then clearly you were looking at yourself in the mirror when you said it. After all, what self-righteous, egotistical, and pompous fucla a$$ titles himself PU and spends all day on a SC blog spewing arrogant bull$hit. You are clearly liberal, and you purposely mischaracterize and wrongfully assume things about me that reveal how clueless you are if things don’t fit into your pre-conceived, pigeon-holed stereotypes. If someone works two jobs to make rent, then power to them. Maybe you should spend less time on this blog, go get a job, and donate some of your money rather than delivering beds for a charity – in other words, actually make a difference rather than making some petty effort so you can feel better about yourself at the next burning man meeting as you sip your chai latte with your legs crossed at the knees….

          • rusoviet

            Probe was ‘en flagrante’ mocking the concept of ‘Trojan Family’ when the news leaked out of Orgeron being denied the HC position – it was obvious he was monitoring to make comment.

            It was that moment when i chose to see him as one who inserts himself into a site to act as a ‘disinterested 3rd party’ but can’t help let his own crafted snide putdowns seep out.

          • Wisdom

            And by the way, I didn’t have assistance in the form of a rich father or public subsidized education. Also, sUCLA wasn’t even good enough for me to consider it a safety school, even with their gov’t handout / subsidized education. What’s crazy is you, by not responding, believe the taxpayers should pay 100% for illegals to attend college simply because they’re illegal. You don’t see how crazy that is, or how this has nothing to do with Ayn Rand? Did you ever take an economics course?

          • Spedjones

            oh great, politics from a non-troxan. Just what we came here for.

          • Wisdom

            SC MBA – but you, on the other hand, are what we came here for?

          • Spedjones

            can you imagine being an Ivy League undergrad and then only getting into Marshall? How bad was your GMAT? LOL.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            (Conservatives are dramatically more generous than liberals.)

          • Spedjones

            without links, it never happened.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            (Is that out-of-context?)

          • grave soul

            “Wisdom,” as an Ivy League graduate myself, your syntax and writing is embarrassing on many levels. I’m not even sure that I buy your assertion of having completed any sort of study at an Ivy. You come off like a bitter, little man desperately trying to state that because you are purportedly an elite school graduate, that somehow strengthens your arguments. Nonsense.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            “your syntax and writing is…”?

            No one is above the law, not even the Grammar Police.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            orange picker’s illegal son

            One can condemn the redistribution of wealth and the conferring of the rights of citizenship to non-citizens without being condescending.

          • Wisdom

            Funny thing is I’m for immigration reform. I’m not for taxpayers providing a free college education to illegal immigrants. A prior poster used the orange picker term. If you’re referring to my use of the term illegal as demeaning, then you’re far too politically correct for me.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            You wrote above:

            While you’re busy Spending my tax dollars to educate the orange picker’s illegal son ….

            Link (edited to avoid automated moderation): www[dot]insidesocal[dot]com/usc/2013/12/12/uscs-latest-recruiting-rankings/#comment-1160964725

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            If “immigration reform” begins with enforcing the laws we have and actually securing the border, then I’m with you.

            If it’s merely a euphemism for amnesty, then no.

          • Spedjones

            haha, another typical trogan fan – not even an alum. Band waggon on!

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            “Think you’re really righteous?

            Think you’re pure at heart?

            I know I’m a million times as humble as thou art!”

            -Al Yankovic, “Amish Paradise”

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            “handout” is elitist, not Conservative.

            The Founding Fathers believed that an excellent public education system was vital to sustaining the Republic; for example, Thomas Jefferson used tax money to educate American Indians in the Christian religion.

            Most Republicans are only hard-working Americans; many liberals are wealthy. Wisdom’s arrogance comes likely from having to protect the one thing in life that gives him meaning — USC football — and that’s hard to do nowadays.

          • Wisdom

            Jack = 268 yards rushing, 7 TDs, ZERO yards receiving. Our FIFTH string tailback = 361 yards, 6 TDs, and even caught a pass. Jack = HYPE!!! Keep pumping those “Freshman of the Year” awards all day there kid….

          • Spedjones

            LOL. Argue with us all you want. Then go argue with the people who voted him the best freshman in the PAC, on O and on D. Good luck!

          • Wisdom

            You missed the point again A$$ clown. You guys get a hard on over inane stuff like meaningless freshman football awards, 9-3 records, lame eight crap$, your cute daughters working as our “nannies,” an occasional recruit playing above his star ranking, crappy freshman starting on your OL, woman’s NCs in badminton, and other such moral victories. Sorry chimp, you lose in the game of life the very moment you first posted on a SC blog! Hahaha….

          • Spedjones

            your language is terrible. Better watch out for the WOLFMAN! Haaaaoooooo!

          • ThaiMex

            soooo, you wanna see what “HYPE ” looks like.. UCLA did not “solely” select Myles Jack as Freshman Offensive and Defensive player of the year. HYPE, more appropriately, , applies when describing the hoopla and hiring of Steve Sarkiffian as your head coach.
            fit Un!

          • Wisdom

            268 yards = the annointed one? You’re delusional kid. A chimp could run for more yards knuckles. Jonathon Franklin must feel great right now. Hype = Bruin fans with 9 wins – unreal….

          • Spedjones

            truth is, SUCsters have been in denial for a good 4 years now. Their demise began even before Cheaty Pete left, yet they insisted that they were a TOP program even through most of the Lane era despite clear evidence to the contrary. It’s like the cheaty years of the 2000′s erased the 90s and guaranteed them 10+ wins FOREVER. Hardy har har.

          • Wisdom

            Did I miss how you guys were preseason number 1 last year? Sure Kiffin failed us, but I find it amusing how you define success relative to how poorly we’re doing at the time. BOOM BOOM BOOM!!!!

          • Spedjones

            35-14! That’s UCLA over USC, 2 years running and another 3-4 in the making. You have the past. Sanctions. Sarknado. That’s it!

          • Wisdom

            Nice that you judge your team based solely on one game each season. But then again, that shouldn’t surprise me when you spend your entire day trolling a USC blog.

          • Spedjones

            actually, I judge the team based on the season. We lost to 3 good teams and no teams worse than us (cough, cough, Wazzu). Whipping the little kids across town and getting Coach O canned was just gravy!

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            (I respect the job Orgeron did for his team.)

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            Of course, USC has tradition and success, but it’s not recent success.

            As for academics? Not over UCLA.

            And “pageantry”? Well, you do have a guy in a skirt on a horse.

            You win there.

          • Wisdom

            One more point: Jack was FRESHMAN defensive player of the year, not freshman DEFENSIVE player of the year as you had mistakenly typed. Nor was he PAC12 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. Geez, you guys have already anointed him the Heisman trophy winner this season! Keep playing the kid out of position, thank you very much, especially with your stable of inferior running backs!

          • Spedjones

            Yes, exactly correct. But he was BOTH freshman O & D player of the year in the PAC. BOTH!

        • Joe Blow

          SC will try to copy fucla in recruiting so we will never win another national championship in football.

          • ThaiMex

            You’re on your way…and Last years UNranked season is a good indicator of what’s in the future.
            fit Un!

          • Joe Blow

            Better than NEVER winning a title of any kind outright.

        • B.Miller

          Whats funny is that all that talent on UCLA and your still below average nationally…
          Same Conference record as a less depth talent team..

          • Spedjones

            below average? How many teams are there and where’s UCLA ranked? And how many true freshmen did UCLA play this year? Yeah, that’s what I THOUGHT!

          • B.Miller

            BELOW AVERAGE!
            Enjoy the Sun bowl

      • ThaiMex

        You also had the #1 Highest star rating average LAST YEAR (ask Elmir) which was also ..supposedly…the Highest Average Ranking EVER! Congrats on finishing UNranked last year and for the SUPERB 5th place finish this year, as well as IMPROVING your rank to #25 in the country!
        Awesome job YESTERDAY U!
        fit UN!

        • Joe Blow

          Bean, you keep showing just how ignorant your really are. Dude, not matter how many stars SC has OR fucla has, the bottom line is fucla’s football program is a TOTAL LOSER. Yesterday U? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

          fucla to NO U.

          • http://amillennialist.blogspot.com Santiago Matamoros

            how ignorant your really are. Dude, not matter how many stars

            Even deviant, brain-dead losers like Joe Blow get the irony of those remarks … if you give them enough time.

            Just watch: 5 … 4 … 3 … 2 … 1 …

          • Joe Blow

            And drunk Mex.

        • Wisdom

          Funny thing, if we’re yesterday u then you’re NEVER U!!! Hahahaha, woot, boom, peace out! Duh-rell won ten games once, heard all of this unfounded banter before; uh oh, is this Duh-rell 2.0?

  • Spedjones

    BOOM!

    • FightON

      UCLA is #36 and #34. Don’t get your panties wet.

      • TrojanFamily

        When he says boom, his panties are muddy, not wet.

      • Spedjones

        And it’s december 12th. Not worried. Your 15 won’t be close to our 25.

  • ProbationU

    It isn’t how you start…but how you finish that counts. Rankings mean very little in recruiting with all the mistakes made…i.e. Zach Banner as a 5 star and Myles Jack as a 3 or 4 star. With EE’s SC will take about 19 or 20 this year and UCLA about 20 as well. Plenty of talent to go around.

    • fight on forever

      Agreed. The ranking system is flawed at best, as lightly regarded players ( for example a walk-on like Clay Matthews) often develop into great players while highly rated players ( too many to list) crash and burn against better competition.
      Better to have a lower class ranking as long as you are filling positions of need. That being said, how do you feel about all the projected DB’s Mora is taking in this class?

      • ProbationU

        We have already had a couple of the early DB commits re-open their recruiting. Not surprising given the talent level of the more recent commits. Pretty typical stuff.

        • fight on forever

          That is typical…happens all the time. Note how rational it is when it’s helping your team.

  • Fred Sampson

    USC has never had a problem attracting big time talent, because it’s SC. Which is why I have to chuckle when average Coaches that Coach for the Trojans are so quick to get labeled “Great Recruiters” . The big Challenge is getting big time recruits to go to a Washington or a Oregon State, let a Lane Kiffin or a Steve Sarkision gain a reputation at those University’s , Sarkision already proved he couldn’t . You think Pete Carroll would have recruited all the 5 star recruits to Ole Miss ?……NOT !!! Let’s see what “Seven game Sark” can do againt’s UCLA’s Coaching staff come Feb 5th. That’s when I will start crowning him if he’s everything Pat Haden thinks he is.