David Shaw, Art Briles, Kevin Sumlin = Terrible; USC = Good

SHAWStanford coach David Shaw (above) is justifiably getting criticized for his playcalling in the Rose Bowl. But some of the fans’ comments I’ve heard the past couple days are ridiculous. Suddenly they claim Shaw is not good enough for USC. Or that Baylor’s Art Briles would be a bad choice because he lost to Central Florida.

And of course Kevin Sumlin cannot coach defense at Texas A&M with Duke scoring 48 points. I even had an ignorant reporter make an anti-Sumlin comment to me this season after he lost at LSU.

Shaw just won his second straight Pac-12 title but he’s not good enough for USC? However USC is good enough to be coached by someone who lost last year’s Las Vegas Bowl to Boise State. Not quite the same as losing to Michigan State in the Rose Bowl.

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  • Joe Blow

    Who the PH u c k are YOU? If you’re so smart, why don’t you get Haden’s $2,000,000 a year job? You’re an idiot.

    • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

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      • Mike 70

        YOU HAVEW HAD A FLAG UP YOU AXX FOR THE LAST YEAR.

        • HeySuxx

          What’s a HAVEW? Slow down mikey, we know you’re afflicted.

        • Joe Blow

          Hahahahaha Wolf flags his own blog.

  • rusoviet

    Justifiably? By who? Hmm maybe every major sports columnist in the nation based on is lack of preparation for yesterday’s Rose Bowl – yeah I’d say he is overrated and here’s why Wolf – game on the line – <2 minutes to go – < yd needed for a 1st down – line up – defense calls time out – Stanford lines up identically again and boom they fail to get that yard – post game he bluntly says that was the right call.

    The NFL hires and fires at will but any smart GM doesn't want someone who made no preparation in three weeks for situations Stanford faced yesterday – Shaw coached the same way against USC and I'm betting MI St. looked at that game film loss by Stanford more than any other game film.

    Bluntly Shaw had the dagger in his hand to inflict a lethal blow on USC dominance in mid-November but he failed – he failed against Stanford's 2nd oldest rival – a rival that has owned Stanford (save 3-4 years) for over 80 years. A rival still suffering with scholarship restrictions and mis-managed coaching – he failed. Shaw failed because of the one statement he made of the continuous rushing up the middle mindset "…that Stanford football…" i.e. He didn't prepare his team because Shaw looked at both USC and MI St. as the same – inept opponents.

    Shaw would take the same mindset into the NFL.

    I'd say Briles looked even less prepared than Shaw and Sumlin well everyone will find out what his skill set is next year w.o. Manziel.

    But Shaw? Poorly planned, prepared and an inevitable outcome – great coaches anticipate potential situations – Shaw didn't change a thing against both USC and MI St..

    • Goatboy Kiffin

      Shaw ranks as a play caller right up with Kiffin and Suckisian

      • rusoviet

        Well he’s a lot better than Mora – what three losses in two years?

        • HeySuxx

          But Mora is a better play caller than Succ’s last two clumsy HC’s.

          • Fight On Forever!

            Mora doesn’t call the plays… Shows what you know.

          • HeySuxx

            And you know this how? Are you saying Mora has never called a play?

          • Mike 70

            shut up while you are ahead. You are looking like a bigger axxhole than ever.

          • HeySuxx

            It’s senile mikey. Prognosis not so good uh? Oh well.

          • Fight On Forever!

            I know this because Jim Mora is a defensive minded coach and has an offensive coordinator (ever heard of one?) named Noel Mazzone who calls ridiculous gimmick plays where offensive lineman line up at receiver or throw passes that all get flagged cause of an illegal formation. On second thought, maybe Mora did call those plays.

          • ProbationU

            Mora’s specialty is on the other side of the ball, specifically with defensive backs. I am sure he is involved with game planning and may have called a play or two, but he isn’t the play caller. That would be Noel Mazzone.

            Not sure if Shaw called the play or not, but sure he had a hand in the bonehead decision. Not very creative against a similar team defensively that knew how to stop it. Shaw normally only calls the red zone plays.

          • rusoviet

            Shaw bluntly stated that was the play – his ineptitude was changing absolutely nothing after MI St. called time out – either his OC couldn’t make a change or was told to make no change – I swear it looked like USC taking them down on 16th November at the Coliseum ‘except’ this time Shaw had three plus weeks to prepare and anticipate specific plays for risky moments – he prepared nothing absolutely nothing.

          • Hey SUCLA sucks it!

            I bet he will! On the Texas sideline. Are you ready to resume the position again? We know how well you know it.

          • Cheap seats

            LOL. You beat me to it. This is the guy who had no idea who Nelson Rosario was.

            Of course he thinks Mora calls plays.

          • HeySuxx

            Poco Loco.

          • Hey SUCLA sucks it!

            SUCKLAey Phuckey

          • HeySuxx

            Cheap Lies, as usual your cheap lies are easier to sling than the simple truth.

          • TrojanFamily

            Champ, you might want to take the next few plays off. Try reading a book.

        • ThaiMex

          USC….two loses to UCLA in TWO YEARS! What’s better 10-3 or 10-4?
          fit Un!

      • Walt Hazzard

        As a troll you rank right up there the best west Hollywood has to offer Troll On!!

        • HeySuxx

          Wally’s PO’d. What’s new.

      • HeySuxx

        Has Stanford ever lost to Washington State at home 10 – 7?

        • Walt Hazzard

          When was the last time sucla beat Stanford? anywhere??

          • HeySuxx

            Wally’s still PO’d. Nothing new here.

          • Walt Hazzard

            what a sad little troll..It doesn’t have an answer so changes subject and resorts to personal attacks..Poor Troll Sad Troll..sucla beat Stanford lately?

          • Arturo

            You gonna fight everyone while you are wrong?

    • Fight On Forever!

      Exactly right, Shaw’s offensive gameplan showed either a lack of preparation and a stubborn determination to stick to the power run game. Stanford did not show anything new yesterday and it seemed like MSU knew exactly what was coming on every play.
      Case in point, the Wildcat run when they were backed up in their own end zone that the Spartans absolutely stuffed. Stanford motioned into it and the MSU corner left Stanford’s fastest player, Ty Montgomery, completely UNCOVERED and blitzed the run. That and other defensive stops showed incredible preparation and anticipation by the MSU defense.
      Shaw is a good coach, and he is the perfect guy for Stanford, but his conservative gameplans and playcalling have absolutely killed them in their two BCS bowl losses. Remember against Oklahoma State when he had Luck, he chose to kick a field goal on 4th down rather than put the ball in the hands of the best player in the country to win the game.

      • rusoviet

        Fight on back at ya – well noticed the MI St. ‘D’ back ignoring Montgomery.

        Ramona Shelburn on KSPN this afternoon (who never misses a chance to tell you she went to Stanford – just like Ivy League grads but unlike Cal Tech) bluntly stated that:

        1.Shaw did nothing for Andrew Luck two years ago for his (Luck’s) Heisman hopes.
        2. Shaw called all the offensive plays throughout that 2011 season.
        3. back to # 1 – Shaw silently declined to talk to any sports media about Luck.

    • Fight On Forever!

      On the other hand, Stanford players had multiple chances to change the outcome of the game. Dropped interceptions, dropped passes down the field, and that botched field goal late in the game would have resulted in a first down in the red zone if one offensive lineman would have just stayed at the line of scrimmage. Still though, I think Stanford was completely outcoached.

      • rusoviet

        Ok then by that logic they were also by Coach O, Telford and Prendergast against Troy on the 16th November – the two games were like mirror images of each other i.e. barely nothing out of Stanford in the 4th quarter and when it mattered ineptitude reigned.

    • HeySuxx

      Bluntly, you’re full of it.

  • Sarknado

    If you remember Scotty, during last years Las Vegas bowl the unranked Huskies nearly upset a ranked Boise State team. Boise State kicked a last minute field goal for a 2 point victory. Hardly an embarrassing loss.

    • rusoviet

      PC lost his first bowl game against UT in 2001 at that very same site – come to think of it Mora got smashed by Baylor last year after losing to Stanford two weeks in a row.

      • HeySuxx

        But you’re forgetting Succ: the unique University, lost last year’s Sun Bowl to a sub .500 team in matchless display of sombrero football. Succ also established a new NCAA record for losses (6) by a FB team voted #1 in the college FB pre-season poll. Well Done comerade. BTW, I’ll always remember where I was when Succ axed the Goat on an LA airport tarmac and hired four (4) HFBC’s in a single year. Succ: the unique university. LOL.

        • Cheap seats

          English, please. Google translate didn’t work on that post.

          Come again?

          • HeySuxx

            I’m sorry you’re English challenged. I’m sure there’s a Jr. College ESL program available near your cardboard street hovel.

          • TrojanFamily

            When no one can understand your troll posts, the problem is you, not them. Please use a dictionary next time. Or read a book.

          • Cheap seats

            That post was better. Was your previous post above really in English?

          • TrojanFan3.0

            What ever happened to the Barbie Princess bike? Must suck to be you!

            PS…Do you ever get any sleep?

        • TrojanFan3.0

          Your material is stale…It makes us all yawn!

    • Walt Hazzard

      Yes..and when they played this year Washington smashed Boise St. 38-6 so you can add Chris Petersen to your list also

  • Goatboy Kiffin

    Ya those coaches are junk … We like the staff whose players quit on them and gave up 53 to ASU , amongest others. Or in the only two prime time games Suckisian ever participated in LSU last year on ESPN and Oregon this year … he only lost a combined 87 to 20.
    Good thing Suckisian’s teams play all those 10 pm eastern games , so most the country didn’t get to see his garbage teams. This loser will see as many Rose Bowl’s as Kiffin did at USC.

  • 1ThaiMexCleansMyToilets1

    “Ignorant Reporter.”

  • bazinga

    Some of the analysis in the comments is more impressive than the analysis in the post. It’s not just that they lost. It’s how they coached. Sumlin’s defenses have been horrible, and the bowl game certainly illustrated that. There are a lot of reasons why Briles wouldn’t necessarily been a great hire for USC, and the bad defense over the last 5 games or so is certainly one of them.

    You can’t persuade me that if it was a Shaw-coached USC team that lost that way yesterday, Scott Wolf wouldn’t be the first guy calling out David Shaw as overrated, placing 100% of the blame on coaching and mocking Trojan fans who thought Shaw would save their program.

  • Henry Bibby

    Wolfie, sorry to tell you this…you are not an Athletic Director.

    • rusoviet

      No but he did stay at a Holiday Inn last night at the knee of Mike McGee.

  • Independent_George

    Meeeeeowww!, Letting the commenters get to you? You go, girl!

  • Golden Trojan

    You can not judge a coach by the way his team performs in a bowl game. These are exhibition games. You can not tell if the players will be pumped up to play or just come to party. If Shaw’s players performed they would have called it good old fashioned smash mouth football.

  • Yale O. Leftwich

    Mr. Wolf posts interesting things,but if one pays close attention,he does sometimes seem to be biased or have some double standards;I have seen it before,when Stanford head coach does two things he criticized Kiffin for…he calls the offense and uses a large board covering his mouth;lots of coaches do this but Kiffin can’t.Not sure why he always so negative about SC;he also ranted how Pete going to Seattle would be dominated by 49er coach Harbaugh,not been the case and no correction;but I still enjoy his articles…sorta’ and I think coach Bibby is on to something.

  • Fight On Forever!

    Sumlin inherited some of the best players in the country. Manziel, Matthews, Evans, and Ogbuehi should all be 1st rounders and Joeckel was a top pick last year and he has benefitted from having some truly great and innovative play callers in Dana Holgorsen and Kliff Kingsbury. Much of his success last season was due to Kingsbury’s playcalling and Manziel’s playmaking ability. His defenses have always been terrible and A&M underperformed this year after starting the season as a top ten team. Again, I’m not saying he is a bad coach, he has shown he can attract talent both in his players and coaches, but in my mind, he’s not in the upper tier of college coaches.

    • rusoviet

      Good post FOF

      Kingsbury sure took it to AZ St. and mind you that was after losing the last 5 games of the season. If that is the caliber of assistants that Sumlin has hemmoraghed then Kevin Sumlin is in bad shape for the future i.e. he ain’t no PC.

      Kingsbury is light years ahead of TX Tech’s last coach that fraud Tubberville

  • English 101

    Scott,
    When was the last time you wrote/posted anything positive about USC, the student athletes, the athletic department, etc? Even neutral unbiased reporting is welcome.

  • Go Tama

    Shaw puckered up yesterday, seems to do that a lot in “big” games.

    • rusoviet

      Ow yow yow – ohhh that’s a good one!

  • Marv Elapes

    Play calling at the end was the same as what got him there. The difference in the game was that Stanford didn’t make the plays (dropped ints) when needed.

  • FightON

    I’ve always thought David Shaw was a conservative playcaller. He’s a class act, but Stanford’s offense is lucky they have a good defense. It’s kept them in games.

    We knew Sumlin has a terrible defense and he is lucky to have Manziel. What is Sumlin without Manziel? That is a key question to be answered.

    Scott, consider that some coaches do not want to coach USC and that perhaps they are not the right fit.

    • Cheap seats

      Right on about the last statement.

      In regards to Scotty, he might be a good candidate for Paxil or Zoloft.

      As I said in another post, if he went to UCLA and was writing for them, he’d be doing the same complaining over there because the “grass is always greener” to him.

  • TrojanFamily

    Scott, why would you want Shaw to coach USC? You’ve spent most of the year arguing that USC is terrible. Shaw lost to USC.

    • Arturo

      because he’s never had to make any tough decisions in his life and, therefore, just straddles the fence like an indecisive drama queen and takes the side that will cause most discord.

  • Arturo

    Stanford is cut from a little ten- or eleven, or twelve, or whatever number of teams that sorry excuse of a conference has- cloth and played right into Michigan State’s game plan. Big game planning is an important criterion for being a big time coach. Even Bama diversifies their offense for big games and doesn’t just try to out muscle opponents- which they do most of the time (Bama being the standard bearer for physical football). Shaw’s still a good coach but who wouldn’t be with that O-line and that front seven- not to mention that he inherited that team/philosophy/program from Harbaugh and never had to develop the program. Peace.

  • Evil Robot

    The past couple days? That’s crazy that you heard fans criticizing the play calling in a game before it happened.

    I would argue that Summlin can’t coach defense because his team ranked 96th in the country in scoring defense with a schedule that included Rice, SMU, Sam Houston & UTEP. Duke didn’t go that nuts, they just added two TD’s above A&M’s season average. One could also bring up the fact that A&M didn’t beat a ranked team in the regular season.

    Why would anyone even bring up any of these coaches until Mike Riley has refused the job?

  • Joe Blow

    Affirmative Action….give ‘em the job.

  • jkstewart2

    To me, Sark was on the bubble with the Dogs, because his team seemed to be the epitome of mediocre, the first couple of years was marked by some good wins and a turn around. The last couple were ugly. Hiring him seems to be another mistake in Haden’s increasing list of blunders. I hope that I’m wrong.

  • Jim

    Add Saban to the list now…