USC Morning Buzz: How Would Ed Orgeron Have Done?

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There’s no question Steve Sarkisian enjoyed a great Signing Day with commitments from Adoree Jackson, John Smith and Damien Mama. But how would Ed Orgeron have done? Mama always seemed destined for USC. Jackson said he liked USC since watching Reggie Bush play and even wore a No. 5 jersey on a visit. Smith said at his press conference USC was his school “from Day 1.”

If Orgeron stayed, I think USC gets all three star players. If Pete Carroll was at USC the Trojans get all three. About the only guy who would not have gotten them was Lane Kiffin.

“Lane Kiffin is a great coach but his moves right now are (not) very high to a lot of recruits like me. It’s not going well,” Smith said in September.

135 thoughts on “USC Morning Buzz: How Would Ed Orgeron Have Done?”

  1. No one gives a shlt what Pete, Ed or Lane would of done. Sark is running the show and that’s what the focus should be on!

    The fact that kiffin still lives in your head is not normal. It would benefit us all if you seek out some professional help

        • Stop it, rah rah. You were the one taunting the trolls by proclaiming USC would pummel UCLA in the Galen Center. Lulz. Such a stupid rah rah.

          P.S. Who the heck has the time to follow over 500 people on Disqus? I mean, really? How’s hospice?

          • I think the only person he is more obsessed with besides Gargamel is the beat writer at the LA Times.

            The bigger question is does godouche22/Trojan Reach Around use his marvgoux handle before or after taking his Metamucil? Can’t quite figure out if his regularity issues trigger the passive-aggressive wah wah shill known as godouche22/Trojan Reach Around or if the Metamucil brings on the more benign wah wah marv…

      • The only friends these guys have are their right hand and their left hand, pathetic!

        PS……gotroy22 enjoys a sock on his hand when the knuckles are in motion!…ouch!!

    • You try way to hard, TF. It’s creepy. Beat a rival this decade–or at least don’t get routed, like you did this year–and the rest of the nation might think SC football isn’t a joke anymore.

  2. He would lose to Jim “Money” Mora… Oh wait, he already did, just like Pete The Cheat, Lame and Lil Sark.

    Just like basketball. Congrats on none of your teams even staying within double digits of the Mighty Bruins!

    • You sound like a snot-nose who just graduated from ooooklah. Only with knowledge of immediate past. Here’s the real scoreboard. You’ll be working for Trojans for the rest of your life and making less money. Congrats on your recent wins. I was so bored from beating UCLA year in and out after 50-0. I’m grateful they made it a rivalry again. It’s been boring beating you so much.

      • He didn’t attend ucla any more than the derelicts that root for Notre Dame did (subway alumni) – he just hates people that are successful and resourceful.

        The biggest hypocrisy is naming an award after wooden and to this day no accountability for the truly most corrupt athletic dept. in the history of the USA – UCLA under that tennis player JD Morgan.

        • And the oooooklah’s have the nerve to call is cheaters. If you get caught, you are a cheater. If you cheat and don’t get caught, you win championships. Roll in your grave Gilbert and you piece of dishonest trash, Wooden.

          • It was quite amazing how Gilbert was able to bamboozle the NCAA over a 15-year span as UCLA won 10 national championships. Hey, I also heard he was the second shooter in the Kennedy assassination, and that he is in league with the mafia to bring down the World Bank–from beyond the grave. I also hear Howland channeled the spirit of Sam as UCLA went to three Final Fours in a row. Oh, and same goes for Harrick winning the national championship in ’95!

      • I know how you feel Killa. Bruins are bored now with the rivalry. And it was pathetic to watch an SC team give up like that. But, when you are getting whopped on your home turf by a superior team, I guess it’s understandable. It will be nice when you guys make it a rivalry again. It’s been boring beating you by double digits so much.

        • Well congrats on your two wins. Now you have our attention. I will admire your smugness as we return to full strength. The owner of the LA Monopoly was down and all you could do about it was two measly wins against us but Nothing more. No titles, no NCs and no recruits. Your program is trash and the recruits proved what “the market” thinks of your bear (bRuin) future. We will see you on the bottom once again. I hope you’ll show me the courtesy of popping off then.

          • You made me laugh! You pop off when YOU have something to brag about. Right now? Double digit blow outs where your vaunted 5 stars give up.

          • Sorry guy. This is a USC discussion board. I’m supposed to be here. You’re the one with the desire for affliction and need for recognition.

            You make me laugh. You trail the all time series by 15 games, you haven’t won a Rosebowl in almost 30 years and yes, all the recruits went to the “losers.”

            Enjoy your two funny little wins. Sorry they are so meaningless to you after years of defeat that you need to come back here and appropriate respect from us.

          • I beleive you are appropriating respect to me, just a ‘troll’ on your vaunted board. Otherwise, why respond?

          • You can’t appropriate respect “to” a person, numbskull. You are so desperate for attention from us it is sad. You are nothing without us and so desperately need our recognition to feel worthy. A sad existence, in deed. Keep proving how much space we rent in your mind “bub.”

      • SC football. Yawwwwnnnnnn. Nice 0-2 streak against Mora. Nice job not being able to stay within double digits in basketball or football!

    • A name that is the perfect oxymoron. Fits you people perfectly. Just relax and enjoy 2nd place the rest of your life.

      • What place did your football team come in this year in the P12? That’s what I thought. Sad program now, running on the fumes of Carroll’s Seattle Seakhawks win. Just relax and enjoy 6h place in the Pac 12 in football and 11th in basketball.

    • “Dynasty?” Man, you’ve really lowered your expectations if you call two in a row, no Rose Bowls, major bowl appearances, no top ten finishes, and the list goes on, a dynasty. Pathetic.

      • Pathetic is the word–SC’s football program has won SQUAT since Carroll left. When was the the last time you won the P12. Mora’s undefeated against the Trojans, and your basketball team last beat us during the Clinton Administration. Sad how your football team gave up against us in your own house this past November…

    • That’s they guy Seattle hired once they dumped Mora, the Super Bowl winning coach, Pete Carroll. What again was Mora’s record in his year in Seattle?

      • Has Mora ever lost to SC? Has Hundley? When was the last time you guys even COMPETED with UCLA in FB or BB? Double domination!

    • Excellent post, Dynasty. Great point – when was the last time any SC team stayed within 10 points of UCLA in BB or FB? 2011? OUCH! They know we OWN L.A., but just can’t bring themselves to face the reality of it. Mora and Hundley UNDEFEATED against the has-been program across town.

  4. How would Brian Boitana have done?

    Another manufactured story by Scottie as a lazy attempt to “report” the news.

  5. Scoot, how about running a story about how Lane Kiffin would do running the Basketball team? Women’s soccer? Cupcake baking at your place? Scoot, Scott.

    • Arturo – bullseye! Mora got no one to buy into his picture ‘because’ with:

      1. an 80 yd. practice field.
      2. home stadium 20+ miles due east.
      3. traffic – constant traffic
      4. their defensive line coach just went back to the NFL
      5. those planned practice facilities still a ‘chimera’ just as USC’s lack of an arena prior to Galen opening in 2008 – nah none of this has any impact none at all.

      Most telling – 3+ coaches in one year and still gets the attention no matter what bel-air tech does.

      • I see you’ve brought a knife to a gunfight once again, Red…

        1. Gunshots flying overhead at practice
        2. Home stadium depressing and decrepit. No thanks! Give me the gorgeous, fully renovated Rose Bowl in the beautiful Arroyo Seco ANY DAY.
        3. Downtown traffic.Constant traffic.
        4. Our defensive line has clown stomped and completely man-handled SC’s OL two years in a row. Barr and Marsh were men playing against boys!
        5. #3 class in the country last year, beating SC in recruiting.

        Most telling – Mora UNDEFEATED agasinst the inferior boys at the downtown campus of DeVry Institute.

        Nice try, Red. 35-14. 38-28. See you in our house this November when, once again, Hundley will run roughsod over the inferior Trojans.
        #scisnothingwithoutcarroll
        #uclaownsla
        #nicebasketballteam

        • USC really owns the Rose Bowl (always has) and has won 24 Rose Bowls compared to UCLA’s measly 5. The little gutties haven’t been able to win a Rose Bowl since 1986, when Barbra Streisand and Jon Peters broke up. The Trojans have won a whopping 6 RBs since then. We even go so often we get tired of it. Asking the little gutties to even get to a Rose Bowl is like trying to win the lotto. As Crotch Boy would yell…Har, Har, HAHHRRR!

          • Wrong. Check the SC-UCLA series record at the Rose Bowl. Or ask Matt Barkley. Anthony Barr will explain it to you, if you don’t quite understand.

          • YOU try reading the writing. This November, when you slink into the Rose Bowl to get your annual beat down by your cross-town masters, you will see the words “Terry Donahue Pavillion” in blazing letters across the length of the press box. Hahaha. Our house, where SC’s skill players fear the pain…

          • In Westwood we own–you might rent in your part of town though. I don’t really know… haven’t been down there in many years. Prefer not to pay $40 for parking and protection so my car isn’t stripped while I attend the game.

          • I’m glad that I don’t know what means. Something wormy and unpleasant in my gut tells me it’s something you do after midnight with your creepy friends.

          • How much mileage can one program get out of one single play? Good grief. Yay, Barr came in untouched and sacked Barkley injuring him. We get it. It’s Ucla’s single defining moment after years of abuse at the hands of Carroll’s dynasty. But seriously, it isn’t that big a deal. It was one play.

          • Actually, the domination stretches over two seasons. The injury was unfortunate, and I felt bad for Barkley. Reality is, however, that UCLA is the better program right now, earned on the field. Period.

          • There your go again, TF, living in the past. When was the last time SC had a freshman make the All-American team? Or win the division? Or finish higher than the Bruins? That’s what I thought. But the way the Trojans just flat-out GAVE UP to a tougher, better team on their home turf, getting blown out 35-14? Sad.

          • Right–last season is living in the past. Nice try, TF, to move the goal posts. Let’s talk about the present, then. Who do you HONESTLY believe will win in the Rose Bowl this November? Who has the better personnel? Who has the better QB? Come on, TF, you know there’s only one correct answer to both questions…

          • Aw, now we’ve degenerated to third grade name-calling. The sign of a desperate man with nothing cogent or intelligent left to say. I understand. It’s okay.

          • Mora owning SC and bei undefeated against the has-been Trijans. That is a big ouch, isn’t it. I’m proud of you, TF, that you are showing the maturity to admit that.

          • You’d think you would realize that anything can happen in this rivalry. Guess not. Did Ucla have the “better personnel” when they won 13-9? No way. But they won. Fair and square. Why don’t we play the game before awarding Ucla the victory. That cool with you?

          • The only time I’ve seen a team “give up” in the rivalry is when Ucla’s players quit on their school and their fans and let USC beat them 50-0. USC’s players didn’t give up last year, that’s called wearing out. It happens when the NCAA levels the harshest sanctions in 30 years on your program and leaves it with zero depth to combat high speed no huddle offenses. ASU (you know them, right? The team that came into your house with a Pac 12 championship berth on the line and beat Ucla silly?) also obtained the same results against the depleted USC roster. So, get over yourself.

    • You’re funny. #9 class two years ago and #3 class last year for UCLA. Willis, Jack, Vanderdoes, Fitts, Massington, Woullard, Benenoch, Queensbury, Redmond, three freshman All Americans last season (to SC’s zero)…. You are embarrassing yourself on your own blog.

      • I think the definition of embarrassing is a troll who LIVES on a USC board. Actually I think the word to describe it is ENVY. 8 clap on.

        • You got me: I am very envious that SC’s football program is just a little better than Washington State’s, that you hired a coach who has a .500 record in the P12, that we’ve dominated you the past two years, that you’ve become irrelevant on the national scene, while UCLA has risen in stature (e.g. three freshmen All American players to SC’s zero? wow), that your team gave up against the better team in town on your own field, as your fair-weather fan base turned the colliseum into a ghost town by the end of the third quarter. Yeah. I’m green with envy. (Stifling a laugh.)

          • Sorry the little gutty tradition is so low rent compared to mighty USC’s. Maybe when Mora finally wins something better than the Sun Bowl, ucla will be considered better than strictly mediocre. First you have to win the Pac-12. That’ll be the day.

          • That’s the pot calling the kettle black, now, Jack… You’ve won zip since the Bush Administration, have not even come CLOSE to giving us a competitive game the past two years, have a new coach who has a WORSE record than Karl Dorrell (seriously, check it out!), and have never won the P12 South, as we have TWICE. SC becoming a relevant national power again? That’ll be the day. Until you beat us, or even ND for goodness sakes, you wear the Mediocre badge…

          • You’ve never managed to beat our main rivals, ND, even once. Ever. Sark just beat Mora in recruiting big-time and Sark has only been on the job a couple of months. L.A. kids love USC. Always have. Always will. Bruins? Meh. Barely a top 20 recruiting finish. Yea!

          • #3 last year under Mora, compared to pUSC finishing like 12 or something. When was the last time pUSC broke into the top 10 in recruiting? And please don’t say this year. Scout is a joke. ESPN has you in top 20, just like UCLA. We even own you in recruiting!

          • You are remotely aware that USC has limited scholarship numbers which limits their recruiting class ranking, right? Oh, yeah, you’re really really bad at math, I forgot.

          • This is nonsense. The game both last year and this year was competitive. Don’t be a douche. USC with any coach other than Lane Kiffin wins two years ago. This year was all Ucla no doubt but until Buck Allen’s fumble USC was very much in the game. Calm down.

          • Says the guy who lives on USC blog. Your like the girl you keeps looking in the mirror trying to convince herself she’s pretty. Keep looking up the stats and hanging on the USC blog and maybe one day you’ll feel alright being a Bruin. Its been 28 years since you guys won a Rose Bowl so at best your name should be changed to “UCLA remembers the Rose Bowl”

          • I tell you what Timmy, if you change your handle to “USC Remembers Beating UCLA and Notre Dame,” I’ll change my handle. Laughable. No comebacks with any teeth because your program is utterly toothless now. Good luck being picked to finish fourth or fifth–again!–in the P12.

          • 12 post on one subject in USC blog. Time for a restraining order. You really need to ask yourself why?

          • Yes, I’m riled. I guess it’s just nice to see somebody who cares about UCLA football. You really should try and get the gang of trolls to hang out on a UCLA site. If you had one. and that speaks volumes to the state of UCLA football.

          • Zero freshman all-americans except for Su’a Cravens. But hey who’s counting? Obviously not you. Math major at Ucla?

      • You have an extreme case of penis envy!
        Win a few conference titles and you might gain a little respect

        PS….You try way too hard!

          • Check our series record against U Sorry Clowns at the Rose Bowl… I’ll wait. Or, we can have Matt Barkley and Anthony Barr as guests on the show and we can ask them. Ha!

          • You’re deflecting my question! Plus, you say the same shlt over and over

            PS….Shouldn’t you be in school?

          • I did ask Barkley. He said his teams beat UCLA 3 of 4 and he once beat ucla 50-0. You are easy money. Ha!

          • Ancient history. Ask him about being the pre-season Heisman contender and then sliding all the way down to fourth round draft status after we dominated him. Ha! 38-28. 35-14. Predicting 42-24 in the RB in Nov. NO ANSWER for Hundley and Jack…

          • You obviously don’t comprehend the true definition of ancient history. Ancient history is the last time ucla won a football conference championship – you know, back in the ’90’s. And no, just the south portion doesn’t count to anyone, unless you’re a little gutty dude. By the way, Barkley’s on an NFL team, along with numerous other USC QBs. How many ucla QBs are in the game? None. Typical. Look up ancient history. It doesn’t mean a couple of years ago. Of course, the little gutties have no history. At least no history that’s any good. Congrats on your 2-game win streak. Whhooooppeeee!

          • As I said, toothless comebacks from a team that has fallen so far and do fast, you are looking up at the “basketball school” hoping you can just make this yrar’s game competitive. Have fun with 7-win Sarkiffian. Maybe the gutty little underdog troggies won’t give up this year in the third quarter.

          • What’s wrong? Can’t you name a ucla QB in the NFL? That’s what I thought. There isn’t one. Duh. And as soon as there is, Mora will be gone to the NFL. Oh ya. His wife hates L.A. Mora wants to prove he can handle the NFL, because most Bruins can’t, which is why USC has so many more players in the NFL compared to the little gutties. There’s some current history for you. How you like them apples? USC probably has twice as may Trojans in the NFL as there are Bruins. One last chance. Name a Bruin QB currently playing in the NFL? Come on. Name him! Cat got your tongue?

          • I could care less about the NFL. This is a college football board. Yawn. Mora and Hundley 2, pUSC 0.

            P.S. Did you actually just use the phrase, “How you like them apples”? Okay, Mr. Ziffle!

          • Of course you don’t care about the NFL. You can’t compete there. Duh. We own you in college football too. While under recruiting restrictions, you happened to beat us the last two years. Problem is, you can’t beat anybody else. Typical gutties. MEDIOCRE CITY! How you like them apples? Sorry you can’t handle the truth. Who’s that NFL ucla QB again? Oops. He doesn’t exist.

          • Yawn. Typical excuse making: Have NOTHING to show on the field, so you blab on about the NFL. Beat a rival–any rival–and then get back to me. How boring.

          • u, rah, rah, rah, c, rah, rah, rah, l, rah, rah, rah, a, rah, rah, rah. loves…the…sun…bowl. There’s boring for you. You’d have a better chance winning the lotto than the little gutties would even getting to the Rose Bowl. Last time you actually won a RB was ’86. Closing in on a 30 year drought. Love it.

      • Zero freshman all-americans except for Su’a Cravens. But hey who’s counting? Obviously not you.

  7. Why not erect another hypothetical what if/how would straw man in the form of James Franklin, Gargamel, while you’re at it playing both sides

  8. Gargamel’s post is intellectually vapid. His headline asks how Ed Orgeron would do, yet he answers his own question with commentary of Lane Kiffin. Did Gargamel even graduate from high school? And his homoerotic Lane Kiffin obsession is obvious and very disturbing.

  9. Actually, Scotty has a point here. USC does recruit itself. As long as they have a coach that gets out of his own way (read: not Lane Kiffin), they tend to do fairly well picking up talent. That’s why Orgeron is going to have a hard time finding a school to pick him up – he was a manager of talent. But didn’t PC play sort of the same strategy? Let the school recruit itself, pick up great talent, give freedom to the coaching staff, etc.

      • You still following me around, buddy? Tell me, have you been diagnosed with any mental illnesses or have you always been this pathetic?

        But, really, now you’re posing as a realtor? Lulz.

        (P.S. I’m glad to see that you are fixing up your grammar. YouR pOstS be4 werE starting to LooookK LyK a 12yo GIRL wrote them!!!)

  10. Good to see that you have moved on to theoretical ways that Lane Kiffin would have failed. I like the new “he can’t recruit” angle after he landed 8 five-star players in his last two years, while being on probation. It might be time for you to turn the page, which I’m sure Kiffin couldn’t do, since all he could do was flip his big play card.

  11. We should definitley make a POLL! Imagine Gargy’s eyes lighting up as Kiffin gets trashed in yet another opinion poll, he will we so happy!

      • I don’t recall any of them being blind or having no sense of smell, but I could be wrong…

      • No, definitely not – UNLESS, he is pulling a Woody Allen with that teenie bopper co-host of his, and promising future “stardom” – the reality is, however, she is on to him, and he is NOT Woody Allen, and she’s not 7 yrs old – so all signs point back to NO.

  12. The anti-Scottie might mention how Kiffin brought in the top recruiting class at Alabama with six 5-star recruits. Boy, that guy can recruit!

  14. HAWR-HAWR!!!

    Nice morning crotch kick wolfman!!

    You KNOW you hit paydirt by the way the yrOXans come swarming out like ants to attack the messenger!!!

    And you simply state facts!! The Dummies around here are a bunch of thin skinned, easily confused chimpanzees!!!

    And you don’t even mention the double digit BEATDOWN the trOXans took in their own house like BlTCHES!!!

    HAWR-HAAAAAWR!!!

    • Nice morning crotch kick me? I like to write to myself. I am Wolf, I am Charlie Oooklah.

    • Talk about “thin skinned”!…. You keep stroking the ego and the skin is going to fall off….ouch!!!

  15. I guarantee you this Wolfie. If you were in charge, even in the slightest of ways, of landing the final Big Three at USC, we would not have signed a one. It was a great LOI Day. Results under any other leadership are pure speculation and irrelevant. Give it a break. You and the little gutty Trolls will just have to live with the fact that USC outrecruited UCLA and Sark passed a big test. Deal with it, or I’ll have to bring up the fact that literally hundreds of people, many with no journalistic experience whatsoever, could do a better job of answering questions on this blog than you do. Taking such a giant cut in pay keeps hundreds of candidates from taking your place.

  17. Lane Kiffin was riding off of Pete Carroll’s success his first two years , until he had to stand on his own two feet . He attributed his down fall to scholarship limitations , which was something Ed Orgeron never mentioned when he took over . Kiffin is not a very good Head Coach , and I’m not exactly sure why everybody thought he was the next coming of John McKay..lol !! What and where has he ever succeeded ? He’s a great recruiter , but so is Orgeron , Tee Martin , Kennedy Pola and many other assistants . So what sets Kiffin apart from the others ? I just don’t get it ..

  18. This is where Wolf never sticks to his guns and contradicts himself.

    Wolf has always said, “USC Recruits itself.”

    If that’s true, why bother having the discussion of past coaches if it doesn’t matter? According to him, the coaches don’t recruit.

    • The guy has dementia, half the time he can’t remember what he posted!

      It must suck to be him!

  19. The Big O Car Wash owner would NOT have landed all three. Those kids KNEW Patty Boy would not give O a long term contract and they want stability. Hot Head Ed took a team that hated its coach, gave ’em some cookies and they responded. Doesn’t work long term. BTW, how many HC jobs got filled without Hot Head Ed?

  20. Sorry Son. I’m old enough to be your dad and remember how Papa Sam loved his championships. Filthy, deceitful Wooden. What a shame he is.

  21. Own your sorry team at the RB. See you in November, when Hundley runs all over that sorry D for his THIRD win in a row.

  22. Imagine what Jame Franklin, Del Rio, would have done?
    How come you did have a poll up for this one
    Stupid!

  23. You are a smart man, “in deed.” And you are wrong on your little grammar lesson, Sally.

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