USC Morning Buzz: Pete Carroll Critical Of NCAA

Pete Carroll

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Perhaps as much as reliving the glory days at USC, Pete Carroll also wanted to keep his reputation intact last night as he once again addressed NCAA sanctions

“I never felt it was dealt with properly,” Carroll said. “I thought it was dealt with poorly and very irrationally and done with way too much emotion instead of facts.”

Carroll said USC’s error was being unaware of everything going on outside the program.

““We just didn’t know what was going on,” he said. “Had we known I would like to think we would do the right thing and would have stopped everything and fixed it by doing what we should have done. But unfortunately, because we didn’t know, the university gets killed over the deal.”

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  • john wolcott

    Well, it’s all water under the bridge; it is all so far in the rear view mirror that I can barely see it any longer.

    In the year 2020, when vision perhaps will be 20-20, these last 4-years will be but a small blip in SC’s storied history.

    • ThaiMex

      Earlier comment about whiny, sc students with entitlement issues was deleted because so many RAH RAH’s were offended? Who’d a thunk it?
      fit Un!

  • ThaiMex

    What’s with this tradition of hiring SLEAZY LYING head football coaches? Coed stalking Cheatey Petey finally..after 3+ years, comes back and pulls a Sgt. Schultz by saying…”I know nothing”…Goat boy’s history of lying is all too familiar with Pac 12 and SEC fans and now we get to watch The Armenian Comedian self destruct. Your school, your athletic programs and your so called academics are the JOKE of the NCAA.

    BTW…a close friend headed up the International Relations Department at LIMBO U “some time” ago. He was often embarrassed by the students, their behavior, and was appalled by their general sense of entitlement, and self-righteousness. The dumb soviet ELEMENTARY school teacher, who posts here frequently, comparing UCLA to Fig Tech, is in over his head and knows less about “reality” than a North Korean Farmer in the country side. “Vin Dawg” wouldn’t give him the time of day…Will Rogers never met this knucklehead…and John Wooden would have said something stronger than “Goodness Gracious Sakes Alive” when asked about the fool…..Petey, Goat Boy, O.J., The Girls Gone Wild knucklehead….YET…. you get up on the soapbox EVERY DAY and bash “Vin Dawg” and JRW?
    It’s gotta feel great going up against a bunch of 10 year olds everyday and showing them a thing or two.
    fit Un!

    • Joseph B. Lowe

      Remember, he credits Woodie for a lot of his success. Your jealousy really shows. What happened? Did one of the help at Jack In the Box turn you down again?

    • B-rad

      Why are you so certain that Pete Carroll knew about the extra benefits Reggie was taking? It’s not like other cases where a coach, an alumnus, or a booster was providing the money. USC had NOTHING to gain by an arrangement between a criminal wannabe marketer and the bush family. What makes you think USC was somehow in the loop? Is Pete supposed to visit the non-local houses of every player to see if their circumstances have changed once they’re in the program? Is it because Reggie Bush had a car? Reggie lied to USC and indicated that he received help (like $5,000) on the down payment for the car from a family member. Should USC just assume that NO ONE in Reggie’s family could give him a loan of 5K? Should we just assume that if a football player has a car that it must be extra benefits because we should ASSUME that all football players come from poor families? Should they have assumed that Matt Leinart’s family couldn’t have helped him buy a car? How about Matt Barkley’s family? Oh, so maybe they should just assume that the black players driving cars are on the take? Is that what USC should have known? Yes, it’s a bit racist to believe that USC should have known Reggie was on the take simply because he had a car. It wasn’t exactly an Escalade he was driving around.

      • ScottWolfSniffsHisOwnFarts

        Why are you trying to engage him in civil debate? He’s clearly unhinged as he’s been posting nonsense for 9 years. I mean what rational person can be so obsessed with a school for which all he has is blinding rage?

        • Joseph B. Lowe

          Quite frankly, he’s just ignorant.

        • Cheap seats

          LOL. Serious, huh?

          Don’t attempt to have an intelligent conversation with one of Scott’s screen names. I don’t think I’ve seen them break character — or in Thaibean’s case, writing style from Bucket. =)

          • WESTWOOD ROB

            Wolf, how can you keep it all straight?

          • Cheap seats

            Well, it’s tough. I have Bucket and Thai talk to each other. Fortunately, I don’t have to break character because they’re pretty much the same writing style with capitalization of random words.

            However, when I’m Scott Wolf, I have change clothes before I post. On occasion, I accidentally post under the wrong screen name like I did in the chat last week.

          • WESTWOOD ROB

            I know what you mean. Sometimes I forget whether I’m posting as Joseph B. Lowe or rusoviet.

          • Arturo

            When you post as them you are actually quite witty.

          • WESTWOOD ROB

            Zing!

      • anno nimus

        When Deshawn Foster showed up to school in an SUV, what did UCLA do? they suspended him for the rest of the season deshaun foster did not play again for UCLA.
        Reggie Bush shows up to school on a Monday with a different vehicle pimped out Impala – THAT HE REGISTERED WITH THE SCHOOL!!! – and what does USC do? nothing!!!

        Recorded calls, pictures, text messages, brought in the investigation with McNair, what more proof do you need??

        • B-rad

          C’mon, show your source that there was a recorded conversation with Pete Carroll. You learned this how? What’s your source?

          The call to McNair wasn’t recorded, there is just a record of a call and it was in 2006 (after the final season) rather than 2005 and it initiated by the wannabe marketer not McNair and it was a very brief call late at night. Like, “huh, who are you?” Picture, really? In a restaurant? I’m sure USC coaches get requests for pictures all the time.

          What did the supposed text messages say? How about some details?

          Dude, just read a few non-biased sources on the way McNair was treated by the NCAA committee. The whole thing is a joke.

          I hope you and the members of the infractions committee never serve on a jury. You don’t seem to understand what actual evidence is.

          Reggie’s family took extra benefits. That USC knew about it is not established.

          That car that should be the “obvious” indication of extra benefits was a 10 year old car with some fancy rims. Big whoop. Only a racist would assume that NO ONE in Reggie’s extended family could have helped him with a loan. So no, USC didn’t automatically assume extra benefits. They asked where he got the money. Reggie Bush lied and said it was family (which seems reasonable to me–if Reggie was your son or nephew, wouldn’t you have loaned him the money knowing that he’s going to easily be able to pay back the loan?). It’s that simple. This wasn’t an Escalade where few people could afford to help him, it was a 13K impala with some rims. Yikes, I can’t believe that you just assume that NO ONE in his family could possibly help him with that. Only a racist would assume that. So no, USC didn’t automatically assume that his family was incapable of a little loan. What do you expect from Universities? Do they have to have access to bank account records for all student athlete families and extended families?

          Get your sources together or don’t reply. Let’s see the source of the supposed recorded conversation and let’s see the content of the text messages?

          • anno nimus

            The recorded call of PC and Michaels was reported in the L.A. times back in 2006, I would need to devote an entire day to researching and finding it, and I have better things to do in my life. As for the picture of McNair, Bush, and the agents at a Hollywood club together, it was published everywhere, even in Scott’s blogs. Where have you been, under a rock? As for the text messages, are you effing real? Read the freaking NCAA investigation report!!! Freaking moron!!!

          • B-rad

            Why would it take all day? If this was such big news, it should be EASY to find. So find it or shut up about it. Again, coaches are constantly approached for pictures in public places. Oh good, name calling. Why don’t you read where the judge “rips the ncaa” in the Todd McNair lawsuit: Latimes Nov 21st, 2012. It didn’t take all day to find it. See, a judge, someone who relies on evidence, is ripping the NCAA, but yet, I’m the moron? Put up or shut up.

          • anno nimus

            There are many articles that were removed from Internet sources. I saved links from LA times on related issues, and now many of those stories are simply not available. Bottom line? The NCAA slammed USC for lack of institutional control, meaning they have plenty of proof that USC knew, or should have known, and did nothing. Read the report, jack hole.

            by the way who is that Judge? it’s none other than a USC alum, of course he’s going to slam the NCAA. Duh!

          • B-rad

            Yea, everything on the internet just goes away and people forget about it. C’mon admit it. There is no credible story saying that Pete Carroll was recorded making arrangements for the Bush house. Everybody seems to have just forgotten that but you? There are plenty of recent reviews of the evidence against USC. No one ever says that. There does seem to be a fairly strong agreement that USC got hosed. You’re obviously just using some stupid rumor.

            Just because the NCAA slammed USC does NOT mean they have plenty of evidence. They had plenty of evidence against the Bush family, but not against USC. That’s the point and the NCAA is fighting to keep their documents sealed in the Todd McNair case. Gee, I wonder why? If they have nothing to hide, then why try to keep it sealed. That’s not a biased judge issue, that’s the NCAA trying to keep the public from knowing what went down. If they had plenty of evidence, why is the NCAA trying so hard to keep the public from knowing what they did?

            oh, by the way, where is your evidence of text messages from the USC coaches to the wannabe marketer? In the NCAA report? What page? Put up or shut up.

          • anno nimus

            Typical, usc fan. Deny deny deny…

          • B-rad

            Typical illogical person. Make claims and fail to give evidence. Where’s your source on Pete Carroll being recorded making arrangements for the Bush house? Where are these texts messages that you claim? And when you get caught being unable to back up your claims, you just call names.

            The NCAA committee had plenty of evidence against Bush, but not against USC, so they make up this “they should have known” crap. Basically, they had to punish someone and Bush was long gone, so they punish USC. And, USC was not making money for the participants of the committee. The committee members were in competition with USC for prestige and opportunities, so no, the committee members did not have a reason to protect USC. If anything, it’s the reverse. With USC punished, some of the other teams and conferences improved. Perhaps that was the motive of the individual participants on the committee.

            Make claims, can’t back them up. But just keep talking and making accusations. Again, put up or shut up.

          • anno nimus

            So what you’re saying, is the NCAA made everything up?? That McNair never attended any birthday parties thrown by SD Charger players in which McNair attended at a SD hotel, along with the would-be agents, and Reggie Bush? McNair was never at a night club with Bush, and the agents in which photos were publicized? So there were no text messages exchanged between McNair and the would-be agents?

          • B-rad

            What I’m saying is that YOU keep making claims that you can’t back up. Then, if I don’t accept your claim without evidence, then I’m in denial. Where’s your source about Pete Carroll making arrangements on the Bush house? Where’s the content of the alleged text messages? In the NCAA report? Really, what page? Put up or shut up.

            In terms of the committee, I’m saying they have no actual evidence that McNair or Carroll knew anything. You think that attending the birthday party means that McNair knew about the extra benefits? Have you ever been to a party? Are you saying that you know the unethical doings of every person that has ever attended the same party as you? Is it plausible that you have ever been to a party where someone has drugs? Does that mean that you knew they had drugs or how they got them? Do you really think that simply being at the same party is proof of knowledge of what every party goer has done? In terms of the picture, have you ever been in a picture with people that you don’t know well? Are you saying that just being in the same picture with someone means that you know everything they have done that is unethical? This “evidence” is embarrassingly thin. There is NO DIRECT EVIDENCE THAT MCNAIR OR CARROLL KNEW ANYTHING. There just isn’t. Yes, it’s all assumptions. This “evidence” would never stand up in a court of law.

      • SUCC de trop

        Reggie’s family was virtually destitute. So the family giving Reggie 5k to purchase a car is ludicrous. Apparently the Bush family motto was “we don’t need no stinking food or shelter.” The rims Reggie had mounted on his ride were alone worth 5k. Reggie loved to parked his ride right in front of HH, so I guess Little Petey Pom-Pom knew it was best to wear blinkers on campus and enter HH from the rear.

        • B-rad

          And how is USC supposed to know the family is destitute? Any assumption that the family was likely destitute is likely based on racism. Even with 5K rims, that 10 year old car couldn’t have been worth more than about 20K. You just automatically assume that NO ONE in his extended family could have given him a loan?

          Even if USC was aware that his mom and stepdad were financially needy, any one assuming that it’s ludicrous that ANY extended family member could have loaned him the down payment for the car is probably just racist. No, just because a football player is driving a 10 year old car with fancy rims on it, should not set off alarm bells. It should only set off alarm bells if you assume that all football players have families and extended families too poor to help out with a loan. So, in other words, it should only set off alarm bells for racists. USC is supposed to ask for tax statements from family and all extended family? That “they should have known” line is crap. They asked him where he got the money and he lied about it. My guess is that someone in his extended family could have helped him get the car legitimately, but the Bush family likely felt deserving of some financial perks.

    • Fred Sampson

      The NCAA dropped the hammer down on USC for one reason alone , and that was REGGIE BUSH !!!

      • Golden Trojan

        And a combative Mike Garret.

        • Joseph B. Lowe

          agree, but MG was RIGHT.

          • SUCC de trop

            Like you KW, MG in now irrelevant.

          • Joseph B. Lowe

            And so are YOU.

          • SUCC de trop

            Not if you keep responding to my comment Joey K. BTW you look marvelous with the UCLA FB owns LA sign. Your check in the mail.

          • Joseph B. Lowe

            Your wife likes it while she’s spinning

      • SUCC de trop

        Don’t forget OJ Mayo’s salary issues.

    • Jethro G Sabbath

      Couldn’t sleep AGAIN?

    • Joseph B. Lowe

      YAWN. Same old post. Get some new material.

    • FightON

      LOL. Making up crap again. How about you name names of these supposed heads of the IR department? I’m curious since I know people in that department.

      • gotroy22

        Trojan Fan’s female sock puppet returns!

        • FightON

          Aww, gotroy. Some of us have jobs that keep us busy and we don’t have time to operate 10 different troll accounts on a rival’s blog.

      • ThaiMex

        Department “HEADS”? Singular, not plural, you bonehead. I was very close to this person, and while we never discussed particulars, I’m pretty sure he shared his perspective with colleagues who agreed with his perception. Isn’t it time for you to run along and do the shopping and Starbucks thing with Mummy?
        fit Un!

        • FightON

          Hi bucket!

          I have to keep things plural with you because you’ve mentioned knowing multiple people at USC. Interestingly enough, they all seem to be in high up positions. You talk all this smack, but never name names. Why is that?

          College kids are jerks. I’m not sure how that effects the reputation of any university. It’s just sort a stupid, petty comment. But you are stupid and petty, so it’s not like I should expect anything less.

          Tell me, how’s hospice?

          • ThaiMex

            You must enjoy pissin’ into the wind….SHOW ME the quote where I’ve mentioned knowing “MULTIPLE PEOPLE at $uc”. Show me or get your POM POM waving horses rear end outta here. Maybe you’re a little too busy right now as MUMMY is taking you out for that swell “Vanilla Ice” like HAIRCUT. S.C. hotos for life!!!!!….
            fit Un!

    • Arturo

      Oh, shut up.

  • UCLA Dynasty

    Being unaware of what was going on sounds like lack of institutional control. So, isn’t Carroll saying that the NCAA got it right? If Tod McNeely buys Bush a house in San Diego, you would think Carroll should have known.

    • ScottWolfSniffsHisOwnFarts

      There are “known knowns” meaning there are things I know. There are also “known unknowns” being things I know that I don’t know. And finally, there are “unknown unknowns” which are things I don’t know that I don’t know. Simply put, no one is knowledgeable of everything. To accuse one of wrongdoing for not being aware of what he doesn’t know is by default saying that the accused is guilty for lack of omniscience, which is a completely bizarre and illogical argument. So one can not rationally argue lack of institutional control because Pete Carroll was unknowledgable of what he didn’t know.

  • anno nimus

    What a complete moron,”Done emotionally”? you don’t do anything”emotionally” after a four year investigation, it’s facts, and facts only. God, forgive me, but I hate that man.

    • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

      It’s understandable why you bRuins hate him. He made you guys his little b*tches! All successful people have their haters. Hate on!

    • ScottWolfSniffsHisOwnFarts

      “Always remember, others may hate you, but those who hate you don’t win unless you hate them, and then you destroy yourself.”

      By the way, how can you hate someone that you don’t even know?

      • anno nimus

        It’s “sports hate” not literal hate, if that makes sense.

      • SUCC de trop

        I hate smelly F8rts.

        • ScottWolfSniffsHisOwnFarts

          you and me both!

    • Joseph B. Lowe

      So Woodies’ players ADMIT taking money and you LOVE that dbag?

      • anno nimus

        the NCAA could never prove that John Wooden or UCLA knew about it, therefore the investigation was dropped no probation no senctions. live with it d bag.

        • Joseph B. Lowe

          Doesn’t matter what they found or didn’t find. The FACTS are that Woodie was FILTHY. We ALL know it.

          SCHOLARSHIP PRODUCTIONS.

          • anno nimus

            “we ALL know it”? huhhh no, I wasn’t there and neither were you. Personally I can’t confirm or deny it didn’t happen, I can only trust in the NCAA report and the NCAA report/verdict says “not guilty”.
            FLIP PHONE

          • Joseph B. Lowe

            Ask you wife regarding the abortion issue from one of Woodies’ players…black.

          • anno nimus

            Sorry, I don’t have a wife, never had a wife, I don’t having a wife, ever. Nice try, though.

            FLIP PHONE

          • SUCC de trop

            Joey K. has zero comeback, so Joey K. resorts to personal and racial comments. Good boy. BTW Joey, the Salvation Army is running a white sheet sale all weekend.

          • Joseph B. Lowe

            The one your wife donated had red on it.

          • SUCC de trop

            Very classy Joey K.

          • Joseph B. Lowe

            She actually was tacky.

          • TrojanR

            Fine, then you are calling players like Walton, Wickes, Rowe, Alcindor, Mike Warren and Lucious Allen LIARS. They’ve all spoken very candidly about accepting improper benefits. They certainly are not denying it… The NCAA, once they finally investigated Southern Branch, determined that Golbert was dirty, put Southern Branch on probation and banned Golbert. Not acknowlediging these facts makes you an idiot. Nothing was ever proven that PC knew and PC has never admitted that he knew. But Southern Branch players have admitted to the wrongdoing and no one at Southern Branch ever tried to stop it over a ten year period. No other hall of fame coach has a bigger asterisk attached to their name than Wooden does with Gilbert. Every article written about Wooden’s accomplishments over his career includes the name Gilbert. Bruins are the national champions in cheating

          • anno nimus

            the question is not whether or not they received improper benefits, the question is did ucla or John Wooden know about it, and according to the NCAA investigation they found John Wooden and ucla innocent of any wrong doing, and the NCAA dropped it’s investigation, meaning they couldn’t prove UCLA or John Wooden knew about those improper benefits. I wasn’t there and neither were you, so all we can do is trust in the NCAA investigation – I’d like to believe they got right, and you as a USC fan believe they got it wrong. Live with it – right, or wrong.

          • TrojanR

            I guess ignorance is bliss when you are a sparklepony bruin… Listen, ignoramus, the NCAA never investigated Gilbert while Wooden was coach at Southern Branch. THAT IS A FACT. When the NCAA finally investigated they found enough to put ucla on probation. This from a Chris Dufresne article in the L.A. Times after Wooden passed away, “Gilbert’s influence ultimately helped land UCLA basketball on NCAA probation. In December 1981, UCLA was cited for nine infractions and received two years’ probation, which included a one-year NCAA tournament ban and an order to vacate its 1980 NCAA national title game appearance against Louisville.”
            Hmmmm…. I guess you forgot about that.

          • anno nimus

            No, I did not forget, but that probation period had NOTHING TO DO WITH JRW, it was Larry Brown violations. FREAKING MORON.

          • TrojanR

            You’re the moron with a short memory. You claimed that the NCAA investigated Wooden and found nothing. You were wrong and misrepresented the facts. The fact is the NCAA did not investigate Wooden while he was coach. But when they did investigate the program after Wooden retired, gilbert and ucla were guilty. Are you really that ignorant that if Gilbert was helping ucla players in 1980, he wasn’t helping them at the height of the program’s success..
            And why are you here again, you insecure bruin with an inferiority complex

          • anno nimus

            Marv Goux, have you ever heard of him?

          • Bruinsindenial

            I’ve heard of Marv Goux. A great coach who broke rules just like John wooden.

          • TrojanR

            Yes, the question is whether ucla or John Wooden knew. And the answer to that question is an aboslute positive YES. Maybe these quotes from an L.A. Times article will help you. “Wooden was wary of Gilbert but generally turned a blind eye.
            “Maybe I had tunnel vision,” Wooden once said. “I still don’t think he’s had any great impact on the basketball program.”
            WOW. Imagine if Pete Carroll used that defense..
            In that same article, the Times “established that Gilbert, during Wooden’s heyday, helped players get cars, clothes, airline tickets and scalpers’ prices for UCLA season tickets. Gilbert allegedly even arranged abortions for players’ girlfriends.
            One former UCLA All-American told The Times: “What do you want me to say? That’s my school. I don’t want to see them take away all those championships.” Gilbert considered many NCAA rules arcane and silly.
            Larry Farmer, who played for Wooden and later became head coach, remarked of Gilbert: “I saw him move mountains.”
            The best quote that is definitive on whether or not Wooden was aware of his players taking improper benefits from GIlbert comes here from an article written by Dan Wetzel, “In a striking 2004 interview with Basketball Times, Wooden described confronting players Sidney Wicks and Curtis Rowe in 1969 about expensive new clothes he suspected Gilbert had purchased. “Did you get this from Sam Gilbert,” he asked. “I don’t like this.”
            Now why would Wooden ask if clothes were given to his star players if, one, he didn’t know Sam Gilbert, and, two, didn’t suspect that he was helping players off the court. Wooden did absolutely nothing about what he suspected and, in fact, allowed it to continue up and until the time he retired. Some saint wooden is.

          • anno nimus

            Those quotes from Wooden are admitting guilt? LMAO man, talk about selective reading!!

          • TrojanR

            The question was not about guilt. YOU said the question was whether or not Wooden knew, and those quotes prove that he knew of Gilbert and his connection to his players and, at the very least, suspected that Gilbert gave Wickes and Rowe expensive clothes. If he was suspicious, then why didn’t Wooden do anything about it. He didn’t. He looked the other way. I especially like Wooden’s quote that he didn’t believe Gilbert’s gifting had any impact on the program. Imagine if Pete Carroll said that…’Yeah, I suspected that Reggie was on the take, but I didn’t believe that it was having any impact on our program… Too funny. You are in denial. Try not to let your hatred of USC turn you into a complete and utter buffoon.

          • anno nimus

            Of course Wooden knew of Sam Gilbert!! he was a booster!! the question is whether Wooden and UCLA knew of the benefits the players were receiving…and the NCAA dropped it’s investigation, not finding sufficient evidence that Wooden or UCLA knew the players were allegedly receiving gifts. Did UCLA get preferential treatment? maybe, I don’t know, I wasn’t there, and neither were you.
            As for PC and USC, it was proven in the investigation that USC/coaches/employees knew of these benefits and failed to take proper action. Other schools take immediate action by sanctioning their program themselves, as in the case of Miami, the penalties they received were very minimal, Miami U is not made up of saints by any stretch if the imagination – but they took action against their FOOTBALL program, NOT BASKETBALL while USC tried to be slick by sanctioning their already irrelevant basketball program thinking the NCAA would feel sorry for them while they denied, denied, denied on the football side.
            To make matters worse during the investigation PC and Garret kept running the program in such an arrogant fashion violating rules, such as Leinart’s dad paying for Dwayne Jarret’s rent; Joe McKnight getting on a 3-way call with PC and Bush one day before NLOI; McKnight driving an SUV; and players running wild raping, assaulting, selling drugs, driving drunk, while PC never took action against those players, never a single suspension. Even though arrests are not an NCAA violation it does not sit well from a discipline stand-point when you’re being watched with a microscope, and you argue that point, well then, you’re just an idiot.

          • Bruinsindenial

            What part of wooden confronting wickes and Rowe on whether or not they received expensive clothes from Gilbert do you not understand as clear knowledge that he suspected Gilbert was helping players. That suspicion turned to knowledge when wickets and Rowe acknowledged where the clothes came from. All wooden could say was, “I don’t like this.” But wooden never did anything about it.

            Talk about being in denial..

          • anno nimus

            by the way, I have never seen an asterisk next to a John Wooden victory or national championship, maybe an asterisk in your book and all the condom haters.

          • TrojanR

            Like I said, google any article on Wooden that chonicles his success and accomplishments as a coach and you will also find the name Sam Gilbert. Gilbert is as much a part of the Wooden’s bruin basketball legacy as the win streak and 10 national championships. They always get mentioned when you talk about Wooden.. Deal with it..

          • Larry Harris

            ***…Condom haters***
            There you go again! How can I convince the board that you are really down deep, a neat guy if you persist with these insults. “The Devil made me do it” does not feed the bulldog (correction, Bruin) anymore. The hoi-poli is now more sophisticated. I know this is not the real you, so work with me. We will show everyone that you are not the crude pitifull person that some ascribe to you.
            As ever…I got your “6″

          • anno nimus

            Put that bottle down.

          • SUCC de trop

            Yes we know Wooden won 10 NC’s and UCLA athletic dept. allows Joey K. to spit shine those trophies weekly for food. We call Joey Woof-Woof, because Joey K. never chews his food.

          • Larry Harris

            Don’t get on Woof-Woof’s case. He had absolutely no idea that the Brasso he was given to apply would turn the trophies green. Why on earth would he bite the hand that feeds him? (no pun intended) Woof-Woof would appreciate it if you would instead refer to him by his given name… PORTLAND (sorry for shouting, but I just wanted to get your attention).
            If you run into Sidney please don’t tell him that his last name was changed by TrojanR. Nothing would be gained plus it just might upset him. I am wondering why you did not set him straight about that…and the dirty Golbert. No one has ever accused you of not setting the infidel straight.

          • SUCC de trop

            Joey screams his current Chicken Little fantasy rant. It’s OK Joey, just don’t drop the UCLA FB owns LA sign. Good boy.

          • Larry Harris

            Au contraire! Mr Wooden was well known for having impeccable hygine.

        • TrojanR

          Wrong on Wooden… There was never an investigation of Gilbert while Wooden was coach. The NCAA never found anything, because they never bothered to look. It was after Wooden retired when the NCAA finally investigated Gilbert’s current involvemen with the program… And, what did they find, just what we thought all along – improper benefits to players. Southern Branch was put on probation and Gilbert was banned from the hoops program. There is no comparison to what Wooden allowed to happen under his watch for over a decade with multiple star players to what PC allegedly knew about agents trying to lure a player away from school and to the pros.
          The mere fact you spend so much of your time here is overwhlming evidence that you suffer from a huge inferiority complex. If SC is so irrelevant as you claim, then any sane and confident person who is sure of themselves and their school, would not spend a single second here… But you are here, because USC is on your mind 24-7… The damage Pete Carroll did to you bruin boobs by beating your hapless team year after year is manifiested in your being psychologically trapped here in USC cyber pergatory. I hope you get help. The day USC is NOT relevant is the day you are no longer needed here. Your presence is confirmation on who rules L.A. still.

          • anno nimus

            Bullcrap, name your source and a link to your claim. BSr.

          • TrojanR

            Why are you so ignorant.. .You spend so much of your day here on the computer, why don’t you just google john wooden and sam gilbert and see what you come up with, unless you are too scared to learn the truth. You abviously feel inferior to USC, so seeing it in print from credible sources might just destory you. It’s too bad that you need to spend so much of your time here worrying about USC’s irrelevance. But I’m glad you’re here, because it only proves who, at least in your mind, is superior. USC!!! As long as you are here, we own you.

          • anno nimus

            Look, you ignorant a-hole, IT WAS YOU claiming Wooden cheated, so the burden of proof is ON YOU. If you tailgate at the coliseum I am sure you have given a burger or a soda/beer to a USC player after a game, I know I have at the Rose Bowl, does that make Jim Mora a cheater? Your level of stupidity is beyond…

          • Larry Harris

            *** I am sure you have given a burger or a soda/beer to a USC player after a game, I know I have at the Rose Bowl***
            Which was it, a burger or a soda/beer that you gave to an SC player at the Rose Bowl? Thank you for supplimenting our training table. Not as impressive as cookies, but a thoughtful gesture none-the-less. Not sure how that impacts Mora though.

          • anno nimus

            You waisted what, 2 minutes of your to prove what A smart guy you are? Do you need exact wording to understand my post? Idiot

          • Larry Harris

            Show a little compassion. I am not as fast on the uptake as you are, but I try. It’s intent that counts. Others may say that you have your head co-located with your hemorrhoids, but what do they know? Ignore them! You are my kind of guy who deserves to be put up on a pedestal. Oh, while we are at it, if some guy named Adler attempts to interject his thoughts, tell him to pound sand and that you are a disciple of Freud (without the mother fixation of course) and that you don’t cotton to his silly theories. That should send him packing.

          • anno nimus

            What are you on, acid? Magic mushrooms? Or just loaded on some cheap vodka?

          • Larry Harris

            I certainly didn’t mean to ruffle your feathers. I thanked you for the training table supplementation. You were even complimented for your thoughtful gesture which I assumed was a positive. The last thing anyone wants is to upset such a knowledgeable poster as yourself. Most await your spot on insights with bated breath. So much hate can’t be good for your pancreas. You are our role model.
            please don’t disappoint. We love ya’ man…and to prove it, a mass will be said for you next Sunday at American Martyrs. You are in our prayers. Can’t we all just get along? Pay no heed to all those immature individuals who claim you are a pitiful wretch. They know nothing.

          • Larry Harris

            ***…we own you?
            You disappoint your Trojan brotheren. We thought that you had better taste than that. Not to fret, you can donate Mr. Nimus to the Salvation Army. The good news is, you can get a write-off on your income tax. The bad news is, it probablly won’t be very much.

          • FightON

            Anno nimus’ self-worth is tied directly to the failure of USC. So sad to watch the little man try so hard.

          • SUCC de trop

            Wait a sec; Yawn 24/7.

      • Mike 70

        don’t forget the cars, abortions, and “business advice.”

        • Joseph B. Lowe

          Oh, but the NCAA never proved it! What a joke.

        • SUCC de trop

          Your senility is advancing as we comment.

    • Cheap seats

      Not emotional? Do you know who Paulie Dee is?

  • Wayne Lusvardi

    What did Reggie Bush do? Murder some one? You would have thought so for such draconian sanctions.

    Hey, if a USC student majoring in music and entertainment is talented and a Hollywood scout offers her a million dollars in advance to be her agent, do we limit the number of music scholarships because this musical star received a contract for her future work? What’s the difference with football?

    USC has a football player, Leon McQuay, who reportedly is musically talented. So let’s say he gets a music scholarship and then goes out for football? And then a Hollywood scout discovers his talents and signs him up to a contract as his agent in return for an upfront gratuity?

    So Reggie Bush is athletically talented. Why should USC be penalized for that when whatever deal Bush cut with an agent was sub rosa and there were no compliance systems in place to start intruding into the Tax Returns of its football players to determine if they are under contract with an agent?

    Sure the NCAA has sanctions against paying athletes as long as they also receive a scholarship. But I foresee in the future the courts are going to say that if someone has a music or track or basketball talent and have signed up with some agent to pay their way through college, and that student also wants to play football, there is not going to be a way to sanction the college because of this. And then that will lead to a stepping stone to breaking down the whole highly prejudicial NCAA sanctions system which is nothing but a Kangaroo Court for competitive football programs in the SEC.

    • SUCC de trop

      Same old, same old. SUCC didn’t know squat. Sounds like the “I didn’t see the stop sign Judge.” Just because SUCC was stupid and ignorant, it’s no excuse for SUCC’s blatant cheating. SUCC fights on w/o scruples.

  • Toejam For Life

    It has been 10 years since Southern Cal resembled anything significant; the sanctions have only been in effect for four years. Reggie Bush was the fall guy but he was only a small fraction of what was going on under Sneaky Pete! Southern Cal should be grateful that they got off as light as they did under what was truly going on! Got Off Lightly On!

    Also, if Sneaky Petey hadn’t strung along the NCAA for 4-5 years and handled it right away, they would have gotten even more of a slap on the wrist!

    • Joseph B. Lowe

      At least it’s not 60 years.

      • SUCC de trop

        Or in SUCC’s BB case it’s 129 years since SUCC ever won a BB championship. PS Joey: you look marvelous holding the UCLA FB owns LA sign on MLK Blvd. – SUCC grads have their use from time to time.

        • Joseph B. Lowe

          Never have cared about BB. Succ it.

          • SUCC de trop

            Sure Joey. I wouldn’t care either if I was a SUCC fan.

          • Joseph B. Lowe

            But YOU ARE an SC fan. You’re always HERE>

          • SUCC de trop

            And you don’t troll the boring inside UCLA blog?

    • Cheap seats

      “significant” defined by who? UCLA fans who troll the USC boards?

      According to you guys, a “great” head coach is someone who reaches the Sun Bowl.

      Also, I do remember a Rose Bowl win within 10 years. I think that’s a bit more significant than a Sun Bowl win or Holiday Bowl loss.

      Way to stay consistent, troll.

      • SUCC de trop

        2012 Sun Bowl: Georgia Tech (6 – 7) 21 – succ 7. I’ll always remember where I was for this titillating, historical, monumental display of succ FB superiority.

        • Cheap seats

          I believe you’re correct on the score. And how did UCLA do in their bowl game displaying their superiority in 2012?

  • Joseph B. Lowe

    YAWN to all the trolls. Pete is one of the greatest FB coaches of ALL TIME.

    Say what you please, but the bRuins have NEVER had a coach this good in ANY SPORT, let alone Football.

    • SUCC de trop

      Little Petey Pom-Pom is guy who always wins at poker. The only way to do that is to cheat regularly.

      • Joseph B. Lowe

        Double YAWN

        • SUCC de trop

          Good boy.

    • anno nimus

      PC was a below .500 in the NFL before USC (then the cheating began), and was a .500 at Seattle, thanks to Russell Wilson, PC has been able to be successful – and let’s not forget that PC has had more players suspended for PED, than any other NFL team since he joined Seattle.

      • Joseph B. Lowe

        Super Bowl
        2 Nattys
        Rose Bowls
        3 Heismans

        Hahahahahahaha

        • SaferInWestwood

          Ha taking a share of LSU natty, pathetic!!
          Ha 3 Heisman, 2 who couldn’t cut it and 1 who couldn’t stop handing out shower towels, pathetic!!

          • Joseph B. Lowe

            Call AP and get back to me.

          • SaferInWestwood

            It was called the BCS which has LSU as the winner in 07, AP Ha pathetic!!

            “We won too, it wasn’t the BCS Natty but we still won” – Joe BLowes

          • Joseph B. Lowe

            Eat your heart out.

            PETE PETE PETE

            2 Nattys
            3 Heismans
            Orange Bowl
            Rose BowlSSSS

            bRuins: 20 wins in a row, CHOKE, nada.

        • anno nimus

          Carson Palmer, and Matt Leinart…huhmm that’s 2, do the math 1+1=2 you dummy.

  • WESTWOOD ROB

    Pete has a point. How was he supposed to know that Tim Floyd was handing OJ Mayo a bag of cash?

    • SUCC de trop

      That’s correct, but it doesn’t resolve the FB facts: 1) Little Petey claims he didn’t know squat or heard anything about Reggie money scheme; 2) Little Petey takes a hike when the kitchen got hot; 3) If Little Petey didn’t actually know about Bush’s festering problem, than why didn’t Little Petey appear before the NCAA Investigating committee and mitigate his and SUCC’s side of the Bush issue.

  • SaferInWestwood

    Woooo… .Woooo!! For two hours had to have been a snoozer… .

  • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

    he’s been watching too many Chris Christie interviews!!

    i’ll give Petey credit though, he got Dumbbell McNair to take the fall for him!!

    is Christie be so skilled at pursuasion? ??? will Bridgit Kelly’s hubby say “go ahead and serve 10 years while Fatso calls you a liar and runs for president??” what do YOU think???

  • B.Miller

    NCAA doesnt need facts.. THEY MAKE ALL THE RULES AND CAN CHANGE THEM ANYTIME! Either you do what they say, or you get FCUKD!

  • B-rad

    I’m saying that YOU keep making claims that you can’t back up. What is your source of the Pete Carroll recordings? What page of the report discusses text messages? You keep making claims that you can’t back up and then accuse me of denial if I don’t accept your claims without evidence. The onus is on you man. Put up or shut up. Stop changing the subject.

    In terms of the committee, I’m saying that being at the same place does not mean that a person knows about a financial arrangements between two other people that attended the same party. There is no proof that McNair or Pete Carroll knew anything. All you have is assumptions and they’re the same assumptions made by the committee that somehow McNair must have known. The evidence does not support the claim. If you happen to be at a birthday party, does that mean that you know what every guest is doing that might be unethical outside of the party? Have you ever been to a party? Do you know the dealings of every person there? Have you ever been in a picture with people you don’t really know? Does a picture provide actual evidence that each person in the picture knows what the other people in the picture have done or are doing that is unethical? Of course not! The evidence is embarrassingly thin. This would never hold up in a court of law because the evidence DOESN’T SHOW ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE OF EXTRA BENEFITS. It just doesn’t.

  • anno nimus

    The recording was a claim Michaels made, it was reported in the L A. times in late 2006 or early 2007, is no longer available, just like many other links are no longer available. I read every story ever published during the investigation.