Do I Believe Pete Carroll?

CAESARPete Carroll said he would have stayed at USC if he knew sanctions were coming in an interview with the L.A. Times. Five years ago, it did seem like the NCAA was never going to wrap up the Reggie Bush case.

But it was still the elephant in the room around USC. There were countless time I asked Carroll about the status of the case. Everyone knew something would come down at some point. So, no, I don’t believe him now. I think he is simply appeasing USC fans.

Carroll knew potential sanctions were on the horizon. Maybe not the draconian sanctions that hit USC but something. He left because he always wanted to correct his NFL image that he could not win at that level. And he knew USC was probably going to struggle a bit (those 2009 blowout loss to Oregon and Stanford were big signs) compared to the lofty success he had from 2002-08. And he probably was a little burned out at USC, where he and Mike Garrett were growing apart.

So it is simply revisionist history for him to say now that he would have told the Seahawks to buzz off and stuck out probation at USC.

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  • UCLA Bleauz

    If anyone would know about elephants in the room, it would be Mr. Five Guys…..

  • Helen

    Pete Carroll said that if he knew 5-year sanctions were coming he never would have left. So Scottie you ARE saying you believe Carroll because you also say Carroll didn’t know draconian sanction were coming. Here it comes – Wolfian logic again.

    PS: why any good college coach puts up with the B S from the NCAA and BCS is beyond me. Every good coach should be looking to escape the mess that has been created in college football and go to the pros.

    • Juan Carlos

      You continuously make excellent points. Thanks for your input.

      • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

        when she’s not deleted, that is….

        (chortle)

        • Juan Carlos

          Yes. Being deleted is something you seem to know about via first hand experience.

          • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

            F U .

            I know, I know… You don’t understand my comment. Ask your mother.

          • Helen

            Ouch

    • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

      In the finest SUCC fashion, Hilary invents an excuse(s) for Little Petey’s ditching SUCC and possible sanctions for the NFL.

  • 10 Commandments

    I tend to believe Pete on this one. Scott is correct about the falling out between him and Garrett however. Pete cared about his NFL legacy but I think he also cares about his USC legacy too… It’s easier for him to say it however after the SB victory.

  • 10 Commandments

    What about a post on the Ed O-Bannon testimony against the NCAA. This is relevant to USC football, is it not?

    • marvgoux1

      Looks like then NCAA cut a deal today.

    • David Keeling

      Whatever O’Bannon did to get this far, you bet the house the God-father of anarchy, Sonny Vaccaro, lead him every step of the way!

  • Golden Trojan

    Got to give Wolf credit on this one. PC was losing his MoJo at SC for whatever reason. He wanted to go back to the NFL, why else did he keep interviewing for jobs. He got derailed at SC by Bush and Garret. He had a great run at SC and is in the middle of a great run at Seattle. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him move on to something else in a couple seasons, especially if he gets another SB ring. Fight On Pete, it was a magical time when you were here!

  • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

    “revisionist”??? that is putting it MILDY, wolfman!!!

    i call it a big fat LIE!!!

    EVERYONE knew the sanctions were coming!! there was some guy on here named Count Smackula who was LITERALLY counting down the days!!!

    and why would he think the sanctions would be mild??? EVERYONE knew the Lake story and the amounts of money involved!!!

    maybe Caesar can sell that lie to the Dummies, but to the wolfman??? good luck!!!

    but BEYOND that, Caesar claims not only did he think there would be NO sactions, we says if the sanctions hit before he left, he wouldda stayed UNTIL the issues were “fixed”… presumably until the sanctions were over.

    what kind of DUMMIES does he think you gueys are???

    • Juan Carlos

      Your message is lost within your foul language and anger.

      • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

        Check please.

        • UCLA Bleauz

          You’re a lousy tipper…….

        • UCLA Bleauz

          You’re a lousy tipper…….

          • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

            Not when I get good service and hot coffee.

          • UCLA Bleauz

            Since you brought it up, I don’t mind tipping well for a nice French press and decent service, every once in a while……. BTW…the Vietnamese coffee lounges in Garden Grove and Westiminster can be a bit of an eye opener, in more ways than one!

          • Juan Carlos

            Indeed. I remember my first time. Wow!

          • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

            Howled like a dog did you?

          • Juan Carlos

            I’m not sure what you are talking about? Why would I howl at a coffee shop? That doesn’t make sense. Please elaborate upon the above blog entry you made as to make it comprehensive.

        • Helen

          Don’t get hit by the door on your way out.

          • UCLA Bleauz

            He usually dines at drive-through places in order to avoid the door hitting him in the tush on his way out …….

          • gotroy22

            More Helenian logic.

          • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

            Where o where am I going Hilary?

        • Juan Carlos

          I don’t understand what you are talking about.

          • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

            You’d better learn quick, or no tip for you.

          • Juan Carlos

            I don’t understand what you’re saying. Please elaborate. Thank you brother!

    • UCLA Bleauz

      Outside of your foul language and anger, you do make a valid point….one that Scottie seems to skillfully dance around…… and that involves using the dreaded “L” word…why is that?….. how come Wolfman doesn’t just come out and call Pete a LIAR, instead of weakly saying “I don’t believe him now. I think he is simply appeasing USC fans”….c’mon, Wolfie…..

      • Juan Carlos

        Excellent observation.

        • NOBSisdaMAN

          Do you put sugar in your coffee?

          • Juan Carlos

            I do not put sugar in my coffee. I choose to use flavored creamer instead. My preference is hazelnut. How about you?

          • NOBSisdaMAN

            Like my women, black.

          • UCLA Bleauz

            … strong and bitter…..

          • NOBSisdaMAN

            Strong and sugary sweeeeeet

          • Juan Carlos

            Nice!

          • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

            Mucho!

  • David Keeling

    To see what Pete Carroll did for this program, as a USC fan, you really “want” to give him the benefit of the doubt on this story… Auburn, Ohio St. Penn St. North Carolina, Miami and a few others can thank USC for being the prized sacrificial lamb getting as close to the SMU death-knell as everyone is watching and ready to attack what the NCAA sanctions committees levels out now… Up until USC, the NCAA was a runaway freight-train, unopposed. Now it is starting to come apart. I do believe Pete when he said he wasn’t expecting the level of sanctions thrown at the program… no one did.

    • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

      i did.

      • Mike 70

        and you were wrong again.

  • G Man

    Who cares? Pete Carroll’s era at USC is history. The sanctions will be history tomorrow, too.

    These last four years were hard ones for USC fans. But the Trojan Family served the sentence with honor (plus enjoying two 10 win seasons).

    On the flip side of the coin, tomorrow is a sad day for the rest of the Pac-12. USC is already a rapidly rising program. Now the Trojans will be competing again on a level playing field as everyone else. It’s not a matter of IF the Trojans win another national championship, but HOW SOON. The best is still to come for USC football!

  • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

    Even if Little Petey Pom Pom says he would have stayed if he known…why didn’t Little Petey help mitigate SUCC’s football sanctions with the NCAA. To my knowledge, Little Petey has not appeared b4 any investigative forum regarding what he knew or didn’t know b4 SUCC was busted.

    • snarfy

      Wrong. The LA Times article today notes that Carroll appeared at an NCAA hearing on USC’s behalf a month after he accepted the Seattle job, and several months before the sanctions were handed down.

      Now GTFO.

      • Helen

        Jeez, UCLA scabs hate those facts.

        • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

          Trolls will acknowledge facts w/o excuse; you Hilary, on the other hand, prefer to snivel and whine in ignorance and hide from facts.

          • TrojanFan3.0

            “Trolls will acknowledge facts w/o excuse;”

            Dude, you nose is growing and the cl*m is still slanted!

          • UCLA Bleauz

            Or trolls simply make up their “facts” to serve their own purpose, right Suxx aka Spin Doctor?

          • gotroy22

            She is a Hillary.

      • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

        I stand corrected, but in my post I did say “To my knowledge, Little Petey…”

        • UCLA Bleauz

          “To my knowledge…”…. gotta love the qualifiers… you must be taking lessons from Wolfie….

      • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

        Actually snarf, the Times article you’re quoting was in the 6/8/2014, Sunday Times – “On the day the NCAA announced the penalties, Carroll said in a VIDEO statement that he ‘never thought there were facts that supported significant sanctions.’ ” “The University didn’t know, Carroll added. We didn’t know.”
        Then the Times continues,”Carroll met with NCAA investigators and, a month after accepting the Seattle job, appeared on behalf of USC at an NCAA infractions hearing in Arizona.”
        Little Petey must have worn blinkers. And sure did go out on a limb for SUCC during the investigation. I count 16 penalties for NCAA cheating that SUCC and Little Petey didn’t know squat about.

    • snarfy

      Wrong. The LA Times article today notes that Carroll appeared at an NCAA hearing on USC’s behalf a month after he accepted the Seattle job, and several months before the sanctions were handed down.

      Now GTFO.

    • B.Miller

      just do more investigating before you write.. when you do not know the facts, pose it as a question.. might help you save face..

  • NOBSisdaMAN

    Scott, do I care what you think? No. Pete has done more for USC than you’ll ever do.

    • snarfy

      Boom roasted!

    • gotroy22

      Scott’s job is to report the facts about USC athletics, not “do ” things for USC.

      • NOBSisdaMAN

        That’s right……FACTS! No the BS fiction he puts out…like YOU.

        • gotroy22

          YOU don’t like it that he sees through the BS fiction.

          • NOBSisdaMAN

            Then PROVE it a wipe.

  • john wolcott

    Carroll is a liar, so says the Ugly Bucket. Lying is something Ugly knows a lot about, but Carroll was not lying. He was the greatest thing to happen to SC since John McKay, and most of us will be forever grateful.

    • https://www.facebook.com/charles.bucket.3 Charlie Bucket

      Review the EVIDENCE, counselor!!!

      Petey had a good run, but he was betrayed by Bush and McNair, and he left under a very dark cloud of suspicion!!

      It’s like OJ saying, “if I was free, I’d be searching for the killer right now!!!”

      LJ, tell us you DONT believe him too???

  • grave soul

    Hey Wolf, any more news on Adoree Jackson driving around Gardena in a six figure car?
    …something about a new Mercedes Benz or a little something like that? I liked the kid’s passion, but I had no idea that his parents were ballin’ like that.

    • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

      So nasty, I like.

    • B.Miller

      Wolf doesnt know.. he waits until someone else writes about it and copies and paste to his blog..
      Guy doesnt do much work.

  • rusoviet

    What’s always missing in this story is the selfish departure by PC in the midst of a scandal – all PC had to do was stay that one last year – he didn’t – he should have but he didn’t.

    Having said that let’s see what happened after ‘woodie’ bailed out on ucla after the 1975 mens bb season ended. When that mess finally came out there was no 4th estate going after ‘woodie’ for his cowardly indifference of the control Gilbert had – that is the most unreported and whitewashed scandal in the history of college athletics – to this day there has never been a full exposure of the depth of corruption under ‘woodie’ and JD Morgan – Morgan passed away late 1980 and ‘woodie’ why ‘oh dear me oh my’ ‘woodie’ just get getting all the accolades and canonization while such as Tarkanian were bluntly investigated in a manner not seen again until the Bush mess at USC.

    • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

      Difference between Wooden vs Little Petey. Wooden retired in LA; Little Petey hightailed to Seattle to win a SB with Mora’s FB team. Facts is facts according Hilary/Helen.

      • rusoviet

        The cowardly con aka ‘wooden’ that the 4th estate ran 100% interference yesterday, today and forever – Saint John The Divine – they even named a church in Manhattan-NYC after him – Oh come let us adore him…..the fraud of all time

        • http://www.ivc.com Gotta pinch major SUCC

          CommieSUCC, still kicking dead bodies uh? RIP is just rip in caps to you. You can’t feel good about yourself.

      • UCLA Bleauz

        One more difference between the two…. Wooden is dead……facts are facts

      • UCLA Bleauz

        One more difference between the two…. Wooden is dead……facts are facts