Discuss The Debacle

The chickens came home to roost. I’ve been saying the same things week after week after week. But tonight USC played a real team that would not forgive mediocre play . . . or coaching.

What a joke of a performance for a team picked to be in the CFP. But what do you expect when USC never improves.

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  • marvgoux1

    You were right.

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      Most of us who don’t watch the games like 7 year olds knew this was coming. You knew it, Fred knew it, Gotroy 22 knew it, goatboykiffin knew it, the rest want to believe that Gomer and Co have a clue, we’ll tonight proved they don’t and next week maybe more of what you saw tonight

      • marvgoux1

        We wanted to believe after that wonderful crazy Rose Bowl comeback victory.Now we can’t deny the truth- no playoff for the national title this year.

      • j metaphor

        Jack B didn’t know it. He predicted victory.

  • Chris

    You love this, we all know it.

  • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

    HELTON IS IN TARMAC TERRITORY!!

    • Michael Guarino

      You don’t get TWO historic losses in 2 years. That wipes out a bunch of come from behind victories. USC deserves better coaching. Period. Did you see the Notre Dame coordinators smiling like studs on the sidelines from the beginning? That’s what bad a** coaches look like. Have you looked at their resumes? That’s what coaching talent looks like!

      • RegalTrojan

        MB, there are some idiots in here who claim everything that goes wrong with the team is never Helton’s responsibility but other coaches’ and players’. Are they Helton’s family and agents? I’m highly suspicious they are.

        • Michael Guarino

          I think the staff has some posters working their side of the fence. But tonight……what lame crap could they possibly come up with in Helton’s defense? He’s a nice guy and he’ll take his hat off to the other team and smile and say “golly, gee.” But that act ain’t enough anymore.

          • RegalTrojan

            Exactly, MB. You’ve been thinking what I’ve been thinking. Right on, bro!

          • RegalTrojan

            Where is a 100-click upvote button for that?

          • Michael Guarino

            I wish Helton was cooking like you’re cooking now, bro!

          • RegalTrojan

            LMAO…another killer post!!!

        • Chris

          There’s also a lot of myopic fans who think we should win national championship every year. We have not even been close for a decade. This team does not have that type of talent.

          • UtahTrojan

            I disagree. This team is loaded with talent. But they do not have fundamentals and focus.

          • Trojan96

            I’m listening to 710AM and Helton’s message to the team. ” I believe in this group. I believe in this team. “. The problem is that nobody believe in CH and the coordinators.

          • marvgoux1

            Uh oh they are going to the phone lines…

          • RegalTrojan

            And neither does it have coaching to be there.

          • marvgoux1

            Hey we have a Sunshine Pumper here to defend the hired help and lie that we don’t have talent..

      • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

        I saw the entire disaster! Swanny will do something besides talk! WE DESERVE BETTER!!!

        • RegalTrojan

          You think so? I hope you’re right. But I don’t see Helton being gone anytime soon. He may be too “nice” to be fired.

          • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

            Swanny can unload him fast! Helton’s contract is cheap! Swanny has to think of recruiting! Players are not being coached up!

          • UtahTrojan

            Realistically recruiting will be gone this year. Recruits will not sign on to a program with Helton there and they will not sign on to one where a coach is being fired and they would be walking into the unknown. Look at our record of Head Coaching hires.

          • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

            Maybe! Maybe Not! It’s all about the brand and who is in command. Big money will force Swann to take action.

          • UtahTrojan

            I will believe it when I see it. We have a President that could care less about Football.

          • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

            Big football money is important to the President! He has to make them happy!

          • UtahTrojan

            It is the only sport making money. They announced Basketball is losing money. But we go out and hire a bargain basement coach. He followed the bubble screen twins. Pete turned out great, but he was put forth choice. See the pattern?

          • marvgoux1

            This is true.

          • JustOwns

            Or the truth!

          • j metaphor

            Hiring and firing complete dirtbags, drunks and cheats has not ever really negatively affected your football recruiting. Don’t worry about it.

          • Pasadena Trojan

            But hiring cheaters is.

          • rusoviet

            The big money will make him sack Helton

      • Arturo

        You’re right, MG. SC deserves better.

        • Michael Guarino

          Thanks, Arturo. I confess I sure didn’t see this coming. Dropped snaps, dropped passes, dropped punts. Missed tackles. Players taking themselves out of the game with weird injuries. I don’t think that all the Sam Darnold “come from behind” victories in the world can save Helton from his two historic, once in a half century losses on national television.

          • Arturo

            I didn’t think I could be so depressed. This game, you bring it and die on the field. This game hurts because SC seemed to play with no heart. Losing to a better team if they faster, bigger and execute is acceptable. Losing because you lack effort and heart is on the coaching staff.

          • Michael Guarino

            I agree with every word, Arturo —-especially your conclusion.

          • Arturo

            Yeah, but you’re the funny one.
            ( I mean that in the most positive sense).

  • Trojan96

    Go ahead and gloat SW.

  • Chris

    One of the things you say week after week is Sam is great, in fact you said greatest in the history of program. I wish that were the case.

  • CORTEZ THE KILLER

    Come on rah rah’s, defend this joke of a staff

  • Cloud Shaman

    Cant run the ball. Cant stop the run.

    • Michael Guarino

      And guess what? Tonight that stellar combination wasn’t enough to win. I guess we need to try it again next week.

    • Arturo

      Power football hasn’t been developed. Wrong Oline recruits.

    • Unreal Uknow

      They are missing to many lineman from injuries. What do you expect with backups?

      • usc fan

        I expect them to be coached up and ready to play. Period

      • marvgoux1

        I expect our 5 star backups to step up.

        • JustOwns

          Whatever happened to Beiku, the guy bozo u flipped from UCLA? I remember Sammy gloated about it for quite sometime.

      • Pac12 fan

        Every team has injuries . Seriously?

      • David Keeling

        We expect them to play better than they have under this lame coaching staff. You think all the teams ranked ahead of USC have been injury free? Don’t be naive.

      • schammer47

        Unreal Uknow. you are right on the money. Coach Helton is an outstanding coach and fields an outstanding coaching staff. I recall last year. Coach Helton’s Trojan team improved each and every game, finishing the season the 5TH RANKED TEAM IN THE COUNTRY. Why is 2017 so different ? A fall off in player ability. The unprecedented injuries have reduced this team to nothing more than a 50-50 competitor. Offensive Line, weaker at the start, devastated by game 5. Defensive Line and LB’s, okay at the start, devastated by the loss of Gustin and Fatu. with Green and Cameron Smith playing hurt. Sam Darnold, Ronald Johns ii, Burnett, and Mitchell JR are as good this season, if not better, than they were last year. The loss of TE imatorbhebhe has proved to be substantial hurt. Can’t say the same for the returning OL. SO BE IT.

    • rusoviet

      in a nutshell absolutely right!

  • Julio

    Worst game since the ASU game. Done with Helton, he’s been living off of Darnold too long.

    • UtahTrojan

      And as talented as Darnold is, giving away 14 points per game from errors is too much to overcome

  • Lunderful

    Cringe inducing comments, but so damn true. The team was woefully unprepared and the coaching staff needs multiple changes…..possibly starting at the top.

  • Lunderful

    PREDICTION: USC loses to ASU.

    • Fred Sampson

      Duh

    • UtahTrojan

      And Arizona and God forbid, ucla

    • Arturo

      SW, is that you?

  • Trojan96

    That was the sloppiest, I’ll-prepared SC team I have ever witnessed. And I graduated in 1996. All three stages of the game were just plain bad. Time to look for a new coaching staff. Tons a talent and the kids looked completely lost on the field.

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      This was Tollner Hackett football

      • Fred Sampson

        Sarkisian the drunk, too

        • CORTEZ THE KILLER

          How could I forgot the drunk

    • Chris

      I am not sure we have tons of talent. It’s good but not elite. Players win football games.

  • Lunderful

    Sam for Heisman……..in 2018.

    • Trojan96

      Not with that O-Line.

    • Chris

      Sam is average. He’s mark Sanchez.

      • CORTEZ THE KILLER

        No, he’s poorly coached with a poorly coached OL in front of him

        • Lunderful

          Bingo!

        • Stephen Randel

          Bingo twice.

        • Arturo

          I don’t think the Oline individually is talented enough. Collectively, they were bad tonight.

          • Trojan96

            Yes! Toa is not a left tackle and Chuma has a bad “primadonna” attitude. The backups are not nearly strong or experienced enough to play at a high level. Lastly Callaway cannot coach up the bunch.

          • Arturo

            Agree with every one of your points.

  • RegalTrojan

    I’m too disgusted to even comment on this game. Let me just say it couldn’t be any worse than it was. There’s nothing positive to draw from it. Zero. Zilch. Nada! Thanks a lot, CH, for an indelibly shameful evening!

    • Trojan96

      Here’s the positive. Swann will need to hire a new coach with tons of experience and strong record. CH will lose a couple more this year and be out of a job.

      • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

        Helton needs to voluntarily step down in order to save face!!!

        • UtahTrojan

          Problem is, who steps in for the rest of the season?
          Tee Martin? Every play would be a run up the middle. We do not have anybody to run this team.

          • Trojan96

            More of a reason for CH to step down. Tee as intern HC would guarantee that we clean slate.

        • j metaphor

          And Enfield needs to do the same.

          • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

            Nope! Not happening! CAE is not on the hot seat! Get over it!

          • marvgoux1

            Clean slate, let Lynn Swann hire his people.

          • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

            I agree — except for CAE! He’s not on the hot seat.

          • j metaphor

            Not yours but he’s on the FBI hot seat.

          • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

            Fake! Fake! Fake! Just go away! You want CAE gone so that your boys in baby blue might have a chance this year! Allturd will save his job! Expect a sweep this year! Maybe even 3X! GO SC!✌️

          • Pasadena Trojan

            Who says? Do u work for the fbi?

          • Gabby

            If the price is right kelly will come a knocking…… not sure if Sam would be his first-choice at quarterback…… just saying

        • Fred Sampson

          That would be career suicide

          • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

            Not necessarily.

          • RegalTrojan

            But still on piles of greenbacks. LOL!

          • Michael Guarino

            You said the magic words, Fred….
            #NowI’mReallyAllForIt

          • Pac12 fan

            Helton a joke as a coach! One year doesnt make a great coach

          • Gabby

            Helton is pedestrian at best it’s reflected on the product out on the field

      • David Keeling

        I think ASU is laying in the weeds as is that team across town waiting to play this year’s Trojan team. If the team continues to play sloppy ball, it could very easily be a 4/5-loss season.

      • Fred Sampson

        Lynn Swann’s hiring practices frighten me, because of who he hired a USC’s women’s basketball coach, a Chimpanzee would have made a better hire

        • Trojan96

          Have faith. This hypothetical hire will put Swan’s butt on the line.

          • RegalTrojan

            ~~~ Lately, I’ve been running on faith…what else can a poor boy do? ~~~ LOL!

        • RegalTrojan

          I thought the REAL Chimp was somewhere in Westwood.

        • Jack B

          Totally true. Our female hoops team is in horrible hands and destined to finish 3-7 in conference every year.

          • RegalTrojan

            3-7??? That sounds more like the little gutties’ football record in conference. LOL!

          • Jack B

            Hey Regal. Can you believe what we just saw? After awhile, it was a little humorous.

            At least there was no tension involved. No drama. No prayers. No yelling. It was just negative play, after negative play, times 10. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a worse USC performance. I really don’t think so, not in 55 years of watching the team. Tonight was the night. Numero uno. Worst performance ever. Was it that way for you too?

            It’ll be very interesting to see how this reverberates through the McKay Center and HH. Intriguing times. We’re about to find out whether the rumors about Swann being lukewarm about Helton are true or not. At least I think.

          • RegalTrojan

            Yes, JB. I must say it was THE worst I have ever seen at least among the games I’ve attended or watched. In fact, it wasn’t even stressful to watch it after the game was practically over at the half. I know this is only a speculation, but I think there’s some internal conflict within the team which isn’t disclosed to the public. The body language of Darnold strongly suggests it. And talk about a guy who has regressed rather dramatically! How could he become almost like Max Browne of last year after the brilliant season he had that ended less than ten months ago? And we know the reason, don’t we? The root of all problems and issues is none other than Helton himself.

          • Michael Guarino

            You are on to something, RT. “Something” happened with this team that we are not being told about —-and that Helton doesn’t know how to stop. They are NOT playing hard….and they are not playing together. When a player RETIRES before the Notre Dame game it tells you everything! Something is deeply wrong.

          • William Sequeira

            Much of the USC football this year is some of the worse I’ve seen. Last night could be the worse..period.

          • Paul

            One of us won yesterday, the other got PWNED. Lol.

          • Fred Sampson

            If he considers anybody other then Greg Schiano, then he’s a fool , because he has an impressive resume, and he’s a solid choice with head coaching experience

          • SCgrad12

            Fred, I mentioned that name three years ago and got run out of the room. Look what he did at Rutgers.

          • Jack B

            The problem is coaching RUT is nothing like coaching USC. Nothing.

            I don’t know anything about Schiano one way or another. Maybe he’s the greatest. I’m just saying I wouldn’t care about how a guy coached at RUT when deciding who my choice for USC would be.

          • SCgrad12

            True. But he has had success at rebuilding a program and he’s under Urban Meyer at Ohio State. I think that would be a home run hire.

          • Jack B

            Where is he now?

          • SCgrad12

            Ohio state

          • Jack B

            68-67 at RUT in the woeful Big East Conf, where he was a lowly 28-48 in conference doesn’t do a lot for me. Seems very mediocre, especially after his lone good year in ’06, which was followed by 5 straight blah years. His last three he finished tied for 4th twice in conf and 8th once with a 1-6 conf record in ’10.

          • steveg

            Already with your names?

          • Fred Sampson

            Somebody’s gotta do it, because the USC athletic administration doesn’t have a clue

          • Steve B.

            You are completely wrong. Trakh will do a better job than Cooper. He might not be the best hire, but lead the previous women into the tournament a couple of times.

          • Jack B

            Better than Cooper. That’s saying absolutely nothing.

            Previously fired from USC after never finishing higher than tied for 4th place and 5th twice in 5 years and against lesser competition with NEW MEX ST gets to the NCAAs only 3 out of 6 years and loses in round 1 each year. Wow, he sounds like a real threat.

            So glad to have this retread back. The ucla women’s coach is so much better than Trakh as both a recruiter and coach, it’s not even funny and the entire conference knows it. Very inspiring.

        • Pasadena Trojan

          Fred, you are mostly right in my eyes. On this one though, I want to see what Trakh can do before I pass judgement. I’m gonna give him a chance.

      • Sandy Underpants

        oh okay, so we can finally get les miles?

        • Trojan96

          Sandy we don’t want him. Les has a horrible offensive mind. We need grit. I would take the d-coordinator at LSU over miles any day.

    • William Sequeira

      No there isn’t.

  • 04Trojan

    Holy F**k! I’m out. F**k Chaz Beefcake.

  • Avoid the Tarmac

    Better Avoid the Tarmac Clay… Round 2 is coming #Pullhimoutoftheteambus

  • Michael Guarino

    As I mentioned earlier in the 3rd quarter —-the only miracle finish we could expect today wouldn’t come on a football field —-it would come on a tarmac.

    • marvgoux1

      And then the depression set in….

      • Michael Guarino

        What do you think, marv…..do we give Helton a second chance with all new assistants? It saved Kelly’s career.

        • USC jojo

          No

          • Michael Guarino

            You answered correctly, boys!

        • CORTEZ THE KILLER

          No

  • Trojan96

    Hawkins just admitted that they weren’t ready to play.

    • 04Trojan

      Greeeeaaaaat.

    • Chris

      Ok. One thing that does not take any talent is being prepared. That’s solely on the coaches.

    • Stephen Randel

      Good grief! A USC player admitted that?

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      Speaks volumes. How can you not be ready for ND ?

      • marvgoux1

        The team wasn’t ready for our rivalry game?

    • UtahTrojan

      He should know.

  • Trojan96

    OLine gave up 5 sacks tonight and Jones had 32 yards on the ground.

    • Arturo

      Ouch.

  • Arturo

    There is always something positive to take from every game/week.

    1) Utah got smashed at home vs. ASU. Tells me last week’s game took a lot out of both Utah and USC
    2) Just saw Penn St. thump Michigan (42 – 13)a year after they were thumped in the big house (49- 10). SC can still turn it around, but maybe not with this staff.
    3) Always thought the team was a year away. ND had a bye week and SC is beat up. This was always a possibility.
    4) CHIP Kelly is available.

    • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

      Arturo—none of that will get SC to the playoffs THIS YEAR!!!

      • Trojan96

        Playoffs are over. We’ll be lucky to win the south.

        • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

          Agree! Tell Arturo to quit the Polly Anna routine!

          • Arturo

            Don’t even know who/what that is. You ever play football at any level? Ever break an arm and try to keep playing? Or, are you a sideline …forget it.

          • Michael Guarino

            Arturo, my friend— that thing we like to call “balanced thinking” is being officially suspended for the rest of the night. As my grandpappy, Angelo, used to tell me, “never get in the way of a stampede.”
            #WhatWeHaveHereIsYourBasicStampede

          • Arturo

            Thanks for the heads up. And a side steppin’ I go.

          • Michael Guarino

            Me too.

      • Arturo

        You’re right. Sometimes a team isn’t good enough at key positions to be a top 4 team. Doesn’t make it any easier to accept.

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      Chip Kelly ? OMFG. And all your statements are for losers

      • Pete Smith

        NO

    • Michael Guarino

      That is ALL true, Arturo. [But I get the feeling that reason isn’t going to prevail tonight. Sorta like trying to talk reason to the revolutionaries manning the guillotine in A Tale of Two Cities…..]…..

      • Ed Garrett

        teachers all ways tell me abuot tale of the 2 cities but what cities r they? r they fun to visit? and can i get theyre on the bus?

        • Arturo

          Londres y Paris, no?

        • Michael Guarino

          You can get there by carriage, Ed —-read the first two pages (it’s not pretty)…..

      • Arturo

        I get it. Everyone is out for blood. Don’t/ can’t blame them.

        • Michael Guarino

          I hope Helton just gets in his limo and drives to a safe house…….

          • grave soul

            That imagery actually made me laugh out loud. Makes me feel kind of bad for Helton.

          • Michael Guarino

            Well, this disaster can’t be all bad if it unites us in pity, grave soul……

          • grave soul

            Good point.

  • Aloha Trojan

    Scott: On one hand, I’m looking forward to your “Sunday Night With Helton” post to see how he explains this one away. On the other, I’m hoping there will be no interview with him tomorrow night, meaning he got fired before then …

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      OUCH !!!!!

    • Michael Guarino

      It would be okay with me if did Sunday Night With Helton AFTER he got fired. He should be allowed to say “golly” one more time.

  • Aloha Trojan

    That second half against Utah last week looked so promising…

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      Look what ASU did to Utah today, IN SLC

      • Aloha Trojan

        I know, ASU will probably beat USC. It is what it is.

  • j metaphor

    AMBER ALERT !!!!
    Jacquie is missing!
    Anyone with any knowledge of Jacquie’s whereabouts, please call the highway patrol, 411 or the international cross-dressers helpline.
    Jacquie was last seen at 3rd & Figueroa wearing a feathered boa, a pink clutch purse and predicting a SoCal victory over Notre Dame.
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    #Dummy

    • Ed Garrett

      he is to busy wathcing the game with to many importint poeple to admit he is a use less blow hard,

  • Unreal Uknow

    I find it hard to say such bad things about the Trojans when they have been plagued by injuries. The entire defensive starting line is out. The O line has suffered multiple injuries. SC has had to field backup players at crucial positions and play the 10th hardest schedule in the country.. Darnold however has to stop the fumbling and interceptions.

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      Excuses are for losers

      • Unreal Uknow

        Whatever. ND beat a bunch of backups.

        • Trojan96

          OLine was never good this year. Yes young backups but the best of the best of the 2016 & 2017 classes. Coaching is the problem.

    • j metaphor

      Yes, and don’t forget about the sanctions!
      Yeah, the sanctions!

      • Unreal Uknow

        Sanctions dont matter. Missing 8 starters at least hurts

        • usc fan

          Look I once coached college football. You back up should always be pushing your starters. That’s not happening here it’s coaching 100 percent

    • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

      BOTTOM LINE!!! COACHES NEED TO COACH UP PLAYERS!

      • Unreal Uknow

        As a 45 year fan I am disappointed but a coach can only do so much with a bunch of freshman with little experience.

        • usc fan

          Ok I have question for you. The last national title usc won had an average age range of starters of what. 19. Sophomore. With freshmen on the line both sides. Coaching makes the difference every Time 90 percent coaching 8 percent players and 2 percent of luck.

          • Trojan96

            So true. Coaching up these kids are key. There definitely seems that there is a lack of fundamentals and clear drop off from 1st string and 2nd string. OLine and the Corners are clear examples.

          • Unreal Uknow

            I would never say Helton is a great coach but when I watch the games, our biggest problem has been mental errors by players. Fumbles, interceptions and dropped passes. Yes coaching can be to blame for part of it, but ultimately it falls on the player. The team finished strong last year and has pulled out wins despite sloppy play this year.
            Experience on the field also counts and freshman with 1 to 3 games playin against players with 15 or more games are at a disadvantage. 5 sacks last game reflect that. But take out all the turnovers and USC would be undefeated.

  • usc fan

    Chip Kelly would be a great hire for usc going forward Helton is done. Players are throwing the coaching staff under the bus. Recruits are announcing on socal media they will come to usc if Helton is gone. Swann has only one thing to do. Fire Helton

    • Trojan96

      Gruden or bust. We want Chucky!!!!

      • UtahTrojan

        Now that would be a hire I could get behind.

      • JustOwns

        Never happen, not in a million years.

  • Ed Garrett

    cortez the killer seen the game b4 it happen cuz he new usc was no good, every one else dont beleive him and say he a ucla fan, but he was rite! smdh!

  • Fred Sampson

    This surprised nobody, but the pretenders who tried to convince themselves, that Clay Helton was the man for the USC job . He was a figure head offensive coordinator under Steve Sarkisian, and a quarterback coach, who had zero input under Lane Kiffin. But Pat Haden thought he was smarter then everybody else, and named Helton head coach.

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      Thanks Pat

      • BearBryant3

        Yeah, thanks Pat for the crappy staduim redo of the suites also.

        • marvgoux1

          They should have blown it up instead of surrendering to the City Council.

    • Jack B

      Nikias chose Helton. True story. Haden did not pick him. Nikias got what he wanted – a gentleman who would not embarrass the program off the field. That’s all Nikias wanted. Haden was on the way out. I do not think Haden was a good football AD by any means, but he did not chose Helton. Nikias did.

      • fast fred

        Did you get this from your “sources”?

      • fast fred

        And before you reply with all your bruin bs, I don’t like ucla and never have!

  • Old Trojans never die

    So I turned it off after they fumbled a punt. What happened?

    • rusoviet

      Oh we mounted an incredible comeback – just look at all the ‘hurrahs’ here!

  • Jared Paul Eckenweiler

    I hate to say it because I know coaching is his livelihood and I think he is a good man. But, USC can’t go any further with Helton as head coach. The team is not improving week to week. Many of the issues this team faces have plagued the Helton era since he took over in 2015..penalties, turnovers and general apathy toward the importance of the games being played.Ultimately losing by 35 points to Notre Dame is not acceptable given the talent we have. It can’t go on, enough is enough.

    • Michael Guarino

      If Helton were the “good man” you say he is he would announce that he’s retiring at the end of the season and free Swann up to get someone REAL.
      #He’llAlwaysHave2016ToLookBackOn
      #USCNeedsTo LookForward

      • rusoviet

        He just might – it’s what Gary Andersen did for OR St. – he took it on himself because he had hired the assistants that stunk for the Beavers and he knew it.

        • Michael Guarino

          It would be the honorable thing to do. And all Trojans would appreciate it. Let’s get moving on a first rate Young Turk Genius to take this program to the promised land. The Junior Varsity tried their best. But enough is enough.

      • marvgoux1

        He’s another Homer Smith- good assistant/ bad head coach.

        • RegalTrojan

          Don’t look now, but we might see Mr Tee as an interim HC, and eventually THE HC.

          • marvgoux1

            He’s the anti-Homer Smith.

          • Goatboy Kiffin

            hahahaha

        • grave soul

          This, coming from bandwagon #homer numero uno himself, marvy.

          #thatsrich

          • marvgoux1

            I never pretended Tee was a professor like Homer Smith.

        • Goatboy Kiffin

          Gomer is s career hanger oner … nothing more

  • rusoviet

    Silver lining is that this was game 8 – a full month before the regular season ends – gives time for a solid search rather than have this happen late next month.

    Helton is gone – this was that awful loss to AL all over again

    • Saul Goodman

      You mean like that sold search for the….

      – 2 previous HFBCs
      – AD
      -BB HC
      – Med School Dean?

      Don’t hold your breath.

      • rusoviet

        Hey ‘slippin’ Jimmy’ how’s it shakin’?

  • David V. Johnson

    The important thing is to keep the team fresh for ASU. I suggest practicing without pads.

    • Stephen Randel

      Saban had his players practice in full pads this week (that was the hard part) and his players had a scrimmage (that was the easy part) this afternoon with the Vols.

      • David V. Johnson

        I also forgot ice cream. The team deserves some ice cream after practice. Soft serve.

        • Stephen Randel

          “Deserves” Ice cream? OK. But you do need to provide ice pops for those who’s prefer ice pops instead.

        • grave soul

          Zinger!

  • usc fan

    So Helton going with sam been hurt for a few games now. Lol. As a coach if he is hurt d ont play him. You have a very serviceable back up that can use the experience. So let just pay a guy to hurt his draft status then announce it to the media. He should have benched him after his play calling comment. Coaches that make poor choices have player that make poor choices. Look at everything that going on and you see my point

  • usc fan

    I hope not. It’s Helton all the way.

  • trojan_1972

    This is a legacy of bad decisions, that all have one common feature: Kiffin, Haden, Sarkisian, Helton either had no experience (Haden and Helton) or no record of success (Kiffin and Sarkisian) in the job that they were hired for. How many organizations hire top execs earning several million dollars per year without any distinguished track record in that position? And USC has been doing this now for a decade.

  • j metaphor

    Anyone heard from Jack B since he predicted victory over ND?
    He seems to have swallowed his keyboard.
    Jacquie, if you’re there, tell me you’re OK, I would miss beating you like a drum on this blog if you freaked out and took a bat to your Mom’s computer.
    Please tell us you’re OK.

    • grave soul

      ❤️

  • Lajollaboy

    No excuses tonight except we got our butts kicked. The team looked unprepared and that is unacceptable.

  • David V. Johnson

    Another bad pattern for a coach with a history of training QBs and offense: Darnold, Kessler, and Barkley all regressed.

    • j metaphor

      Helton is a good and decent man that respects his players, obeys the rules.
      This makes him totally wrong for SoCal.

      • Arturo

        Wow.

      • grave soul

        Spot on.

    • Brian Gniewecki

      Team is just way too soft.

  • Pac12 fan

    Great recruits. Way under developed

    • Ed Garrett

      if u keep sayin this, jack b will be all up set and call u a bad name!

  • BearBryant3

    I hear alot of talk about getting a new head coach, but who is out there that would be better? I really can’t think of any for sure hires that will get USC to be dominate again.

    • Ed Garrett

      jack b cuz he is smarterest persin hear, smdh!

      • Avoid the Tarmac

        nah Brutus

      • j metaphor

        He seems to be missing.
        Is he in the bunker?

        • Ed Garrett

          he cuold be in trans gender bath room with his importint freinds,

        • grave soul

          Someone call for an Amber Alert. Jackie is likely so drunk that he doesn’t know his own name.

    • usc fan

      Chip Kelly

      • Arturo

        Hear, hear. Or, is here here?

        • usc fan

          He has already had lunch with swann

          • Arturo

            You better not be joking

          • usc fan

            No joke

          • Arturo

            Sweeeeet

          • usc fan

            Happened at Mr CHows In Bh

      • CORTEZ THE KILLER

        Please no

  • Avoid the Tarmac

    If Helton give a call to Swann, does Swann come down to help. Food for thought #HadencametoSark #WhynotClay

  • j metaphor

    It’s time for the Athletic Director to take decisive action ( as soon as St. Pat tells him what he should do)
    Good news for SoCal fans is that they probably already have a Sunday tee time at LACC to discuss it.

  • Isaiahdolan

    Unless a great coach comes along (and they are rare),Helton will probably be with USC next season.

    • Brian Gniewecki

      Chris Peterson would have been a great hire.

      • RegalTrojan

        You got that absolutely right! He’s no Gomer, that’s for sure!

      • cmwilliamsd

        Peterson is not a big city guy. Northwest is low key. Took just the right area to get him out of Boise

    • BearBryant3

      agreed, in less there is a complete melt down and USC loses out on the rest of the season.

  • Pete Smith

    This was worse than sad. We where flat out of the gate no spark. We where out coached on both sides of the ball. We where out played on both side of the ball. We did not execute, we stunk. The defense looked like Monty had returned. The D-line was just awful could not get off a block or had very slow reaction no second effort.The linebackers guessed the wrong gap and took them selves out of the play. Open field tackling was just bad. The offense was a joke-play calling had no rhythm or plan B. The O line looked like a high school line that goes winless all year. just could not move players off the line. On a high note our penalties where better and thats it. Enough ranting we lost badly now fix the problems and get ready for Zona they are a real team riding high. Get behind the players and let them know we are still behind them FIGHT ON

    • USC jojo

      Please Pete, tell us how you really feel. In hindsight, it looks like nothing was done about the snow ball that started rolling down the hill after the WMU game.I truly hoped that things would be adjusted and play would get better and more consistent, as the year went along. I thought the Utah game would be the mark, but they, once again, started off bad.

      That’s why I had two prediction scenarios on the score. I didn’t know which team would show up. That’s a preparation issue that can only fall on the coaching.

      The fear of watching this team start off bad next week, may cause this team to quit.

      Fight On!

    • Arturo

      I feel your pain, Pete Smith. It stunk tonight.

  • usc fan

    Look usc gets top recuirts. Every year period. 80 percent should be developed and ready to play game one as freshman. All 100 percent by game 3. It’s not happening they are trying the old reshirt to get depth deal. That’s not gonna happen at usc. Kids come her to go to the NFL period. So kids come here ready to play. Coach up the kids and let them play. This program is way to big for him. It was way too big for sark and even Kiff. Think about it. Pete was and is the type of coach that needs to be coaching at usc. The head coach needs to be bigger than the program. Not a shadow on the wall. Kids done trust Helton. They don’t like some of the staff. It’s all over social media. The program is out of control. They will lose to ASU and Helton will get fired.

    • BearBryant3

      and hire who?

      • usc fan

        Chip kelly

        • BearBryant3

          Maybe, but definitely question marks with his NFL failure.

          • marvgoux1

            He isn’t coaching in the NFL if we hire him.

          • usc fan

            But at least he has nfl experience. Nick saban was not too good in NFL either

          • marvgoux1

            And some guy named Pete Carroll failed in the NFL.

          • usc fan

            Very true

          • BearBryant3

            yeah and carroll actually had a winning record in the nfl before USC. But kelly could be successful, but why when I say that it doesn’t sit right. I wonder if thats how Louisville fans probably felt when they hired petrino.

        • USC jojo

          Kelly will not be the answer. He couldn’t beat big physical teams.

          • usc fan

            True but he has made friends with guys who can. Being a hc is about management and making the correct choices. Plus he can recruit. He is well respected and feared.

          • Arturo

            Yeah, but imagine him with USC talent and not Duck scraps.

          • USC jojo

            In order to run an offense for 90 plays, you need smaller, undersized lineman.

            Where is he coaching now?

          • Arturo

            Your NFL argument about him not having job is full of holes. Kelly maximized the talent he had at UO and if he could approach that with SC, it’d be over.

          • USC jojo

            I am not a follower of the NFL. i love College Football. I did not know he was successful in the NFL. He ran a gimmick offense that did not care about controlling the line of scrimmage. Big physical teams were his kryptonite. They controlled the line of scrimmage against him.

          • Arturo

            I hate the NFL. Still, he, like Saban, was made for the college game. His control freak attitude didn’t translate to the pros where players don’t need someone motivating them and holding their hands. At their best, OU continuously blew out opponents on a weekly basis and just barely missed out on a NC on a couple of occasions. Give him SC’s talent, and I’ll take my chances. He’s innovative enough to adapt and make the Trojan offense roll teams.

          • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

            For once I agree with you Arturo!

          • Pasadena Trojan

            Sc needs to get back to playing tough physical football

    • Brian Gniewecki

      Clay will have to do what Kelly did at ND. Fire the coordinators. Will he have the balls – i doubt it.

      • CORTEZ THE KILLER

        No one any good will work for Gomer

    • Bernie

      Have you seen the top recruits lately that are cutting USC off their list?

  • Fred Sampson

    Arizona State blew out Utah, the University of Arizona ain’t no punks, and believe it or not, the gutty little Bruins can actually put points on the board . So the mighty Trojans have a rough road ahead of them, because they ar actually a lousy football team.

    • BearBryant3

      If they were lousy, they would be 0-8, calm down sir. They have talent, but lack belief in the program right now.

      • CORTEZ THE KILLER

        Rah rah rah

      • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

        That’s the problem, they have talent. It’s a bunch of guys out there with raw talent and bad coaching. Who hasn’t regressed this season?

    • j metaphor

      Lousy?
      I like “marginal” I think that’s more appropriate.

    • RegalTrojan

      Fred, if they keep like they have been, they’ll lose to most of the teams remaining in the schedule. And yes, even to the little gutties!

      • marvgoux1

        No we aren’t THAT bad.

        • RegalTrojan

          Is that you, Clay? Clay Russell? LOL!

          • marvgoux1

            Yeah where is that guy tonight? Was that really Clay Helton?

          • RegalTrojan

            I think it’s she. Remember Helen that mysteriously disappeared this season? My honest hunch is those who are involved with the staff are in here with multiple accounts in order to protect their job security. They sound far too similar to one another to be different individuals.

          • marvgoux1

            Yes and that Clay Russell tried to run Fred off the board. They both had the same MO, internet tyrants. Of course they could be SID employees too.

          • RegalTrojan

            Yes, absolutely! You’re a perceptive one, aren’t you, partner? And Fred? He’s a cool dude.

          • USC jojo

            This is like the Twilight Zone episode, where there is a martian on Maple St.!! TA TA TA TAHHHH!!!

          • RegalTrojan

            Trust me, It’s pretty dang close!

          • USC jojo

            I started here a year and a half ago, maybe two years. I wondered where helen went.

          • RegalTrojan

            Might be alive and kicking in another personas. Her extraordinarily loyal spirit and devotion for Gomer is still very much felt around here. LOL!

          • marvgoux1

            Funny to hear her on the post game call in show.

          • Michael Guarino

            You have excellent instincts, RT….
            #SpendMoreTimeCoaching,LessTimeTyping

          • RegalTrojan

            Trust me, MG. I’ve paid my dues to come to know that, such as staying up in wee hours going back and forth with the individual behind the mask. LOL!

          • Michael Guarino

            I do trust you, RT.

          • RegalTrojan

            Nothing comes easy, MG!

          • JustOwns

            Helton seemed extremely nervous, pacing the sideline uncomfortably.

          • Goatboy Kiffin

            As out of place as stupid Sark

        • steveg

          I think they play bad because they lack any passion.

      • j metaphor

        Now you’re talkin, RT!

        • RegalTrojan

          And you’re starting to hallucinate for a gutties victory, correct? LOL!

    • Michael Guarino

      Lousy football team? They weren’t at the beginning of the season, Fred ——it took a lotta coaching to get them to where they are now…..

  • usc fan

    Swann already had lunch with candidates trust me on that.

    • grave soul

      Ok

  • j metaphor

    Kids, please call uncle Jack!
    We know he has nothing going on in his life other than SoCal football and that he depends upon this program to compensate for his personal lack of mojo.
    His psyche is damaged and he needs our help!
    Please talk him off the ledge, we need him here for target practice.

    • ANDYISWINNNNNING!!!!

      Go away!

  • Gabby

    Hey Helton, if you’re going to protect sam from running the ball than change the f***ing offense. Everyone on the other side of the ball knows where the play is going and that sam will not run it. Our RB is getting smashed every time on the read-option. Fink is a better fit for this type of offense

    Hey Guarino, send helton a memo

    • grave soul

      Yaassss, Gabbie!!

      • Gabby

        Many different handles do you play with?…..mental illness must suck, hang in there, it only gets worse…….Are the trade winds blowing

    • Michael Guarino

      Do I have to, Gabby? I’d just as soon let Scott take care of it. He enjoys it.
      P.S.
      You are so fricking right about the way Sam is being used. What kind of a joke of a coach transforms Sam into a joke of a quarterback? Take a look at the guy —he’s completely demoralized. The look I saw on Sam’s face at the end is the look that gets your a** kicked every Saturday from here on.

      • Gabby

        “IN SAM WE TRUST”……..once upon a time

  • Gabby

    All the tool came out of the woodwork….pathetic

    • Ed Garrett

      u have a girls name,

      • Gabby

        ….and you enjoy d**k….me too!

        • Ed Garrett

          does u and ur boy friend like to feed the ducks?

          • Gabby

            …no, packing fudge….you sound interested

          • Ed Garrett

            candy is bad for ur teeth, ur boy friend and u shuold go to a denntist,

  • Daniel flores

    CH will give his same BS excuses. I keep hearing how SD shows no emotion, quickly moves on from his poor decisions. He needs to start showing emotions and prove he’s not a second year bust. I’d rather have Fink in the Game.

    • BearBryant3

      belief is a powerful tool and Sam doesn’t have it right now.

  • marvgoux1

    Arizona stops 2 pointer in double OT beats Cal 45-44.

    • j metaphor

      Rich Rod would be a great match for SoCal as well.
      Total D bag.

      • Ed Garrett

        jack b shuold be the couch, he knows every thing and is so much fun,

  • Gabby

    The tackling in space is beyond pathetic……John Huston needs to see the bench. The has been junk all season

  • David V. Johnson

    We need to hire Justin Wilcox, to keep the continuity of flunkies.

    • marvgoux1

      He just blew the Arizona game going for 2.

  • j metaphor

    Jack?
    Are you there, Jack?
    Anyone seen Jack?

    • Arturo

      You sound obsessed.

      • j metaphor

        Art,
        It’s actually more of a hobby than an obsession.

  • Julio

    its pretty bad when Brian Kelly out coaches you,…

  • Aloha Trojan

    Did anyone hear helton’s post game interview with pete arbogast and john jackson? If so, what did he say?

    • Brian Gniewecki

      Have to look at the film.

      • RegalTrojan

        LMAO!!!

      • Aloha Trojan

        oh my god

    • Gabby

      He said, IN SAM WE TRUST….end of interview….

      • usc fan

        He can take sam with him to his new job.

    • USC jojo

      They are in control of their destiny and look forward to be in contention for the Pac12 South.
      I don’t know. That’s just my guess.

      • Michael Guarino

        Exactly. First shot. What marksmanship. [I guess you can skip Helton post game pressers from now on]…..

    • Julio

      He gave Notre Dame credit for executing, and coming ready to play. Also mentioned that they were experienced on the o-line. Sounded like excuses.

    • Trojan96

      We have to do better. Hats off to Kelly and ND. They played a heck of a game…. Typical Gomer BS. He is not taking any responsibility for this debacle.

  • grave soul

    Scott, you and I were absolutely correct in predicting an embarrassing loss for the trojans and their faithful. Spot on, Wolf Pack.
    Yet, it’s not totally their fault. You see, most of the homers here are the same people who vehemently and unabashedly support trump, so they are already a mangy bunch of müll…not very analytical nor self-reflective, so it follows that they’d be in denial about how bad the team is too.
    Anyhow, I’m laughing specifically at the trump supporters on this here little blog. Because I know there are many of them and that they are hurting tonight, just like they’ve been hurting from the actions of their Dear Lying Leader.

    • usc fan

      And what has he lied about? Bengazi or his speeches. Maybe how he cleaned his computer clean with bleach.

      • grave soul

        Are you kidding?
        Better question: what hasn’t he lied about? But his supporters are all too deep in denial to admit it, or too dull to see it.

        • usc fan

          So who did you vote for

    • Arturo

      Keep the politics out.

    • Stephen Randel

      I like the president. I support him. I think the USC football team is poorly coached, plays uninspired and will likely lose two or three more football games. Many of us clearly are not in denial. Please cover again how these positions are mutually exclusive?

      • grave soul

        Well, at least you’re not in denial about one thing…

      • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

        But CNN told him that all of Trump’s supporters have jumped ship.

  • marvgoux1

    Helen just called in to the post game show and called for Helton’s head. If you’ve lost Helen…

    • usc fan

      He should be gone. Sam should be benched

      • Gabby

        Sam is experiencing a sloooow death…..thump, thump thump. people are falling off the wagon

    • Gabby

      Did we have a Helen sighting?……that means bucket is near

    • JustOwns

      Is hirsute Helen still among the living?

  • j metaphor

    You called it, Wolfman, and by the comments I see here, it looks like you’ll survive another head coach.
    Too bad, Helton seems to be a decent guy and therefore a bad match for SoCal.

  • Lajollaboy

    I don’t know if Swann will fire Clay. He needs to see how the season plays out and decide what he and the University consider acceptable results for the team.

    • BearBryant3

      Get the program back to top 10 every year and two loses is a down year. That the expectations.

  • David Keeling

    What’s to discuss? You saw it and I did too. What couldn’t happen did. USC came out sloppy and the Domers got ahead and kept scoring.This Trojan team, which has more talented players than the opponent got outcoached pure and simple. From the first offensive play (thank you Nicho) it was mostly down hill. And for a supposed running team, ND got pretty good passing the ball against our defensive backfield. I hope Lynn Swann got an eyeful of what happens when USC plays a good team with Clay Helton in charge.

    • Gabby

      Dude, take the blinders off, ND is a better team top to bottom. ND is one FG from being ranked in the top 3

      • schammer47

        You are right on, Gabby. The ND QB is a game breaking National Championship caliber leader for the Irish.

      • David Keeling

        And the reason why is they are better coached. Don’t try to tell me ND has better talent across the board.

        • Gabby

          It’s not about the talent, it’s what you get out the talent. Evaluating talent is extremely subjective

  • LamontRaymond

    Just a straight up beating. Back to the drawing board! (Try not to jump off any high walls, Trojan fans….)

    • BearBryant3

      Life goes on.

      • j metaphor

        Not for Jack B.
        He’s gone AWAL

  • Julio

    Lane Helton needs to fear the tarmac.

    • Gabby

      funny!

  • grave soul

    But it’s also the sanctions.

    • timmay

      lol +1

  • Golden Trojan

    Up next, ASU, they just stuffed Utah. Good Luck Helton, blow the rest of the season, you are toast.

    • Trojan96

      More like, blow one more game and lose the south and your out.

      • Golden Trojan

        Losing the South is blowing the rest of the season! It doesn’t look like it gets any easy for this SC team.

    • schammer47

      GT, USC will beat Ariz State, where they live, this coming Saturday. Bank on it.

      • JustOwns

        Didn’t you predict the same thing aboot ND?

  • Fred Sampson

    The bottom line is, USC is poorly coached, and has no identity, or direction, Clay Helton did not have the ability to hire top coordinators, and now he is finally being exposed.

    • Golden Trojan

      The Helton doubters are looking like genius’.

    • Trojan96

      True , but I would keep the RB coach. He’s doing a good job.

      • Fred Sampson

        A great incoming coach should recognize that

        • Trojan96

          True.

  • Trojan96

    Helen is on 710AM right now. She wants to hire Les Miles as DC

  • usc fan

    He is doing damage control

  • usc fan

    I have a feeling he starts fink this week.

    • marvgoux1

      How bad is Darnold’s ankle injury?

      • usc fan

        Must be bad enough to say he been hurt since wsu. Why take a chance on him getting more hurt before he goes to nfl. Let him rest see what fink can do against asu if you lose you lost because you had to start a qb with no experience. If you win your a genius.

    • Brian Gniewecki

      Oh God no.

    • Trojan96

      Against ASU??? That is a scary thought with that OLine.

      • usc fan

        Zone read rpo asu has trouble stopping it.

  • cmwilliamsd

    Chip Kelly hire him before UCLA does

    • 04Trojan

      No. God no.

      • USC jojo

        I second that!
        Mora issued a statement. He just turned down Swann.

        • usc fan

          Like I been saying swann is looking

          • USC jojo

            It was a joke

    • usc fan

      Mora not going anywhere

      • cmwilliamsd

        With UCLA remaining schedule. They will be lucky to win a game. That seat will be on fire. 12 million buy out is only drawback.

      • JustOwns

        You know this how? Are you a member of DG’s wine sipping fraternity?

        • FIGHTONtoVICTORY

          face it, UCLA can’t afford his buyout. Especially with all of the season ticket holders dropping their tickets this season.

    • usc fan

      Chip Kelly was spotted having lunch with swann last week fyi

      • cmwilliamsd

        Who paid?

        • usc fan

          Who know probably USC at the end lol

  • usc fan

    Mora has already turned down swann. He is staying a ucla. Kelly would be a natural fit for what sc is trying to do

    • Brian Gniewecki

      He flamed out twice. Never plays any defense. Never plays tough physical football.

      • CORTEZ THE KILLER

        Exactly, not what Swann wants in a coach

      • cmwilliamsd

        Kelly flamed out in the pro’s. College record is super. What he did with 3 star talent was fantastic.

        • USC jojo

          In the end, he could not match up with big physical teams. Stanford, Auburn and Ohio State(his student coached that game) but it was still the same philosophy.

          • Arturo

            With Oregon talent.

          • cmwilliamsd

            The guy coached 4 years. 46 7 record. Went to 2 Rose Bowls. 1 National Championship and 1 Fiesta Bowl. Yeah he sucks

          • usc fan

            I think you keep Clancy too

          • Trojan96

            As long as we get rid of Bradford. The DBs have regressed horribly.

          • Arturo

            Exactly.

          • USC jojo

            His offense was innovative and new at the time. It got exposed when he went up against teams that were physical and knew controlling the line of scrimmage was key.

            I never said he sucked. That offense can only have success against weaker teams.It’s not built to control the line of scrimmage.

          • usc fan

            Ok answer this what offense is being ran the most in the hs game?

          • USC jojo

            I do not follow high school football. I am assuming that is what hs means.

          • Arturo

            High schools use Kelly’s offense and every recruit would kill to play for him at SC.

          • usc fan

            My point exactly

          • USC jojo

            Like my comment earlier about Kelly not working in the NFL had holes in it, as you say.
            Appealing to popularity is also a logical fallacy you are appealing to.

          • Arturo

            Wasn’t appealing to popularity in the sense you’re talking about. My point was about how recruits, most of whom already play in the system, would flock to SC even more so than they do now; they’d want to play for the innovative coach who started it all.

          • USC jojo

            Like I said earlier to uscfan, if they hire him, I would support and hope he succeeds. And I would be the first to say I was wrong about hiring him.
            Fight On, my fellow Trojan, Arturo.

          • usc fan

            The spread offense. Olineman and dlineman are no longer being developed. The power run game is going away. This is why michigan is not doing good alabama is grabbing all the power lineman in the country. Also look at how there offense is changing too. Saban is seeing the big picture.

          • Arturo

            His player development was exceptional. Let him develop SC talent. He didn’t get exposed as his team’s barely lost close games. His team’s talent level got exposed.

          • usc fan

            Exactly

          • cmwilliamsd

            Have to admit. He did have an exceptional QB

          • USC jojo

            If USC were to hire him. I would support him and hope for the best. If he became successful, I would admit I was wrong also.

          • cmwilliamsd

            Lost to Auburn 22 to 19 come on. What about putting up 59 on 3rd ranked Fla State in the Rose Bowl? Who was defending NC champs?

        • usc fan

          He would clean up with socal talent. He a recruiter too.

        • Brian Gniewecki

          Thought USC wanted to be a physical running team with a strong defense. That’s not Kelly.

      • Arturo

        He flamed out in the pros, just like Nick Saban btw, not in college. At OU, they were a machine.

    • CORTEZ THE KILLER

      Get off the Kelly kick, SC can and should do better

      • usc fan

        Who then

  • usc fan

    You use your TE to help seal edge and weekside is left unblocked to see if he collapses if he dies you pull and run. Same read on same side playside read. Fink has a good solid foundation on this. He would run all over ASU.

  • Arturo

    Swanny played for Chuck Knoll and John McKay. He knows great coaches. Does he see that in CH? You can’t learn on the job for two years at SC.

    • usc fan

      Very true but he has not learned. Let’s see how asu game goes.

    • RegalTrojan

      Well said, partner. Good stuff!

  • Trojan96

    Here’s my wish list:

    – Joe Moorhead
    – Dave Aranda
    – Greg Schiano

    • RegalTrojan

      What? No Tee Martin? How could you? LOL!

    • Brian Gniewecki

      Aranda would be a good choice.

      • Trojan96

        SC is one of the few universities that can afford him.

    • Trojan96

      Or what about Jeremy Pruitt? Alabama’s defense is nasty good.

    • Fred Sampson

      Greg Schiano would be a fantastic hire, and he would bring respect to the PAC 12 conference . Joe Moorhead, and Dave Aranda need to prove themselves at a lesser school, IMO

      • Gabby

        I hope that’s not based off his NFL career. Accord to a source, he’s a pr**k and wears out his welcome…..I forgot, USC recruits itself

    • Gabby

      Greg Schiano? not as a head coach….His skill set falls into the “yes sir” category….just saying

    • JustOwns

      Other than large $$$$$$ 96, what leads you to believe those candidates would care to coach in the bozo u fishbowl.

      • Pasadena Trojan

        Squatter, who will want to coach at ugly when mora is fired? We all know ugly is cheaper than cheap

      • Trojan96

        Big coaches in big programs are used to the press and big expectations that come with the job. Are kidding??? SC is a dream job. Top 5 legacy program. People would kill to coach at SC.

  • Old Trojans never die

    Trying to read all of these comments is a daunting task. I remember hearing that USC would take 10 years to recover from the sanctions leveled on them. I thought that was a crazy statement. Pro teams don’t have as many players as college teams do and they manage. Someone pointed out that pro teams can hire more players. Well successful pro teams have coaches who know football. USC doesn’t.
    I can see that Trojans were overmatched on the sidelines as well as the field. The O line started to gel last week. This week with the “starters” were a bowl of jello. Why the coaches tinker with things which are not broken is beyond me. Sam Damnold has not improved this season. He has obviously regressed. Tinkering with his delivery was a deliberate act of sabotage.
    I didn’t watch long enough to see if we committed the predictable false starts this game but if we didn’t it’s a miracle. At this point of the season watching sloppy play and poor decisions made by the players points to only one person. The head coach needs to be held responsible for this skid into high school ball.
    I’m with the people saying bring out the tarmac the party is over. Too many good players have been wasted by this staff.

  • Jack B

    I don’t see how Helton recovers from this. I hope he does because he’s a very nice man.

    Now it’s up to Swann to push some buttons and it’ll be very interesting to see which ones he does and how fast.

    What’s amazing is, as bad as we are, we’ll still kill ucla in the Coliseum in Nov. It’s all relative. Our real rivals are vastly superior to us now in size, speed, quickness, desire and skill.

    But compared to baby ucla, USC is still a monolithic program that will take them apart.

    That’s the only silver lining that came to my mind after tonight’s amazing fiasco. All those still on Helton’s bandwagon, please support him like never before. He’s gonna need all the help he can get to right this ship.

    Fight On! Beat ASU in Tempe!

    • USC jojo

      Well, maybe Helton should be charged with ”lack of institutional control”. This team has consistently been inconsistent all year. The rest of the season, I fear for the worst.

      May this loss, open some eyes and cause this team to play better, from here on. That’s all I can hope for at this point.

      Fight On
      We Are SC!

  • Goatboy Kiffin

    Exactly what anyone with a clue knew was going to happen
    No surprise Sark recruits Gomer coaching equal dog crap

  • Chris

    The thing that may hurt the most is how many recruits saw this game and are considering ND. They recruit many of the same kids we do.

  • Arturo

    Things could be worse- they could be FSU.

  • Pac12 fan

    This game was a joke. Darnold way overrated . As was the whole team and coaching staff!

  • Steve B.

    Next week is the telling tale. Can Helton get the team back on track to beat ASU over there? If not get rid of him or major changes in the coaching staff. Pendergast is the most over rated high price DC around. Making $850K is absurd. The defensive never shuts down anyone for a whole game. Tyson Helton is a waste. Bradford is worthless. Nansen should have left with Sark. Tee Martin to go back to the wide-outs and give up play calling. Callaway is lost with the running game. A disgraceful performance overall including the coaching staff. A team that can’t tackle in week eight. Turnovers. galore game after game with none on your end.

  • Gabby

    As of 11:00pm, 400+ replies to wolf’s post…..OMG….dude hit the “motherload”………cha-ching

  • Fred Sampson

    I started commenting on Scott Wolf’s blog years ago, because I thought Lane Kiffin didn’t have any leadership skills, or direction, and needed to be fired . Then I turned it up a notch, because I thought the Steve Sarkisian hire was absolutely horrible, and I was right, because he did nothing to improve the line of scrimmage play, and hired one of the worst offensive line coaches in modern day history . Those issues have continued to haunt this team, which I personally find to be unbelievable.

  • PaliTrojan

    I really liked Helton’s comment during the post game presser when he was speaking at the ND lectern. His comment of “we have several corrections to make” is the understatement of the decade. One correction at head coach would be a good start. Helton is a nice guy, but way out of his league. It is sad that mediocrity has become acceptable at SC.

  • Yale O. Leftwich

    The saddest part is for the players . They chose SC over ND for their development, they trusted the coaches. That is all you have to see. ND would have scored from wherever they got the ball. Turnovers are usually a problem, it made no difference in this game. SC was like watching boys vs grown men. Who prepared them out of high school, this staff.You know recruits saw this, which school would you want to play for,if you enjoy winning vs being clobbered. I doubt SC can beat Arizona schools.

  • Eastern Ave.

    That was sorry football…
    Sorry-a** Football…
    The players have been cheated by their adult leadership…
    Not even close to being ready…
    On to next week…
    Maybe Haden will meet Helton after the game on the Tarmack next week…
    Sorry a** football…

  • William Sequeira

    Coach H. is an average coach, that’s okay providing he surrounds himself with the best. USC can always attract the talent to be great. Instead he chooses friends and relatives. He needs new assistants starting with our O line coach, QB coach, and most importantly, an Offensive Coordinator. Also, Sam needs another season under his belt.

  • j metaphor

    Wolfman,
    Is 445 hits a record?
    I’m surprised they aren’t lining up to thank you for talking them out of betting the spread!
    Your genius goes unrewarded again.
    #dontdeserveyou

  • Pasadena Trojan

    My thoughts for new head coaches:

    David Shaw. Stanford
    Whittingham. Utah
    Franklin. Penn st
    Wisconsin coach
    Texas coach

  • Pasadena Trojan

    Scooter, you keep saying what is wrong with the Trojans which is easy to do, but we don’t see any analysis on what they need to to improve,
    . It is like me saying you are horrible as a journalist but I won’t tell u why u are horrible nor tell u how to improve. Write on what you think the Trojans need to do to improve

  • Pasadena Trojan

    If Swannykeeps Helton, then the condition is to release the o and def coordinator, o line coach, and Baxter. They all have under performed

  • Jethro G Sabbath

    458 comments? No way I’m reading them.