USC Morning Buzz: A Thought On Pac-12 Coach Of Year And An NCAA Milestone

One more thing on last week’s Pac-12 Coach of the Year award. You know who really deserved it? Sam Darnold. Let’s see how many games USC wins when he leaves.

Now to an NCAA milestone: Stanford won the men’s soccer national title Sunday to give the Cardinal 115 NCAA championships in all sports. That moves the Cardinal past UCLA (114). It’s significant because UCLA has been No. 1 in titles since 1996.

Stanford actually took the lead for a few hours last Sunday when it won the NCAA women’s soccer title but later that day UCLA tied the Cardinal when it won the men’s water polo title. USC is No. 3 with 104 NCAA titles.

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  • RegalTrojan

    Let me put it this way. I’ll have much more trust and respect for Helton as head coach if he will have compiled an equal or greater record for the team with a new QB after the departure of Darnold. Will it be next year or the following year? Guess we’ll find out soon enough.

    • Sebastian Lane

      That’s a fair point. We won’t know if he’s a Gene Chidzik until he wins with another QB. I am hopeful, but cautious….

      • Stuart Leventer

        It looks like he’ll have the opportunity to prove his true worth since he’s likely to be around with the team for a while. The truth will be revealed eventually.

    • SucKiffin

      U have already seen it It will be ugly … like the Max Browne debacle

      • RegalTrojan

        I wouldn’t completely rule it out.

    • Golden Trojan

      The QB next year will have a better team around him.

      • RegalTrojan

        I sure hope so.

    • David Keeling

      Agreed

  • TrojanConquest

    Hard to win as many NCAA titles when we don’t have as many sports. It’s ridiculous that we don’t have Men’s Soccer and Women’s Softball.

    • gotroy22

      Whose fault is that?

      • Paul Muad’dib

        What is the reason USC doesn’t have as many sports as Stanford?

        • gotroy22

          Cheapness?

          • RegalTrojan

            Scrooge?

          • gotroy22

            Scrooge McDuck!

          • RegalTrojan

            Is it Ebenezer’s favorite meal?

    • San Diego trojan

      We do have more men’s ncaa champs than anyone else by a good margin, and that doesn’t include football. Every time We hear an east coast bias, and lack of respect for West Coast college sports, all we have to do is say “scoreboard” because we have three outstanding universities in Stanford, UCLA, and USC that have been dominating intercollegiate national championships ,for decades, and it isn’t even close

      • gotroy22

        The problem is nobody sees us winning anything.

        • San Diego trojan

          So true!

  • Sebastian Lane

    Hey man, who’s number one in men’s sports? Yes, haters will always hate…..But at least tell readers all the facts?
    And how about this. Five power five football conferences. Four of the Championship teams had Head Coaches who were former coordinators who ZERO prior head coaching experience. I guess learning on the job isn’t always a bad thing?

    • steveg

      Good point. It isn’t always a bad thing, especially when they have been mentored by competent head coaches during their careers.

  • Peaceful Warrior

    Scott you do realize that will have somebody else will play the QB position when Darnold leaves?

    • Christian

      If SC wins it will still only be because of Darnold.

      • Paul Muad’dib

        If they lose, its because of Helton. Very simple monkey math scott wolf uses.

        • SucKiffin

          lose because Gomer digs such a hole … even a Darnold can’t bail him out

          • steveg

            You realize you are getting very redundant? We got your message long ago.

  • Chris

    Is it true SW doesn’t like Clay Helton? Can it be that he thinks Sam is the only reason the sun comes up? I never knew. SW is so insightful and gives us better “inside” information than I could possibly dream of.

    Why hasn’t he won multiple writer of the year awards?

    • Cloud Shaman

      Look at what happened to Kevin Sumlin. Helton lead teams have beaten Peterson, Herman and Shaw.

      • steveg

        On this blog it is Darnold lead teams… lol

  • steveg

    When Sam leaves the sun will quit rising, yes Wolf, it will be the end of USC football as we know it. I am sure Wolf it will take moving down to Div 2 to ever compete again. What a clown.

    • rusoviet

      Nah – we all know the sun comes up regardless. What your sarcasm omits is what happened to USC football once Darnold was named the starter and how the team was before that.

      I’ll agree it isn’t so much Darnold as it is the marginal skill set of Helton.

      • Brent4c

        What happened was a loss to Utah. I was at the Alabama game Darnold wasn’t gong to win that game. Maybe he beats Stanford, but his costly fumbles vs Utah tells me he loses at Stanford also if he had started. Sure SD had a great year last year and a marginal year this year. I’m still stunned at your lack of understanding of how bad things were when Helton took over.

        • rusoviet

          Well I hope you get over being ‘perplexed’. I grant you there was a complete mess prior to Helton being named as the interim coach in late 2015 – a functioning alcoholic as a head coach not vetted by a indifferent and lazy athletic director. Subsequent public display of addiction leading to his (Sarkisian) being fired for dereliction and thus handing over the reins to the then OC Helton.

          I also don’t take issue with the facts you cite as 2016 unfolded save that Helton showed and shows (save for the Stanford games this year) an amazing lack of preparation prior to ‘make-or-break’ match-ups,

          It isn’t those facts that are the basis of my assessment of Clay Helton’s own ineptitude rather it is the: assistants chosen, practice regimen, sideline antics, never ending 2nd half comebacks by a first half vanquished opponent over and over this year. We won a lot of games but as : Jim Mora, Kyle Whittingham, Mike Leach and David Shaw have all publicly noted – the sheer athleticism of the USC recruits amazes them – it isn’t the coaching that anyone cites and I sincerely doubt other major programs coaches look to USC as to how to run a program in 2017.

          • Brent4c

            Then where are all of the AP All-American recognitions? Why did the OL draftees perform so poorly in the NFL combine if they are athletically superior? Lack of preparation? How do you know this? Are you st practice and in the film room? Are you aware of the mandates changes in how long and how physical teams may practice? Line up your favorite coach and Helton has beat each one not named Sabin.

          • rusoviet

            Since when do any of us have to be at a practice or any team activity to under gird our comments? What I typed was published over the past 2 years in the (imes and 6aily &reeze/news.

            As to why few of the players have been tabbed as AA – the whole conference is in limbo the past 3 years due to lousy time for games starting and the conference champions deemed < compared to the other top tier programs.

            You think this guy is the best we can do – have at it – he's a 'Conference USA' head coach who has been given keys to a high end automobile he hasn't a clue how to use its' performance.

            BTW the latest crop of NFL receivers from USC are doing quite well per the article that ran recently in the (imes.

          • Brent4c

            So we only need good WR? I thought all the complaining on here was because we aren’t physical enough? You and a few others on here are why coaches and players don’t want to interact w fans. Despite quantitative data to the contrary you claim the coaches suck and they don’t have a clue what they are doing.

          • rusoviet

            Well then I guess you’re the ‘water carriers’ and ‘spear men’ for coaches that need to have you circle the wagons against any and all criticisms however valid.

            Don’t worry ‘brent’, thanks to Haden, we’ll all have to endure ‘Clay’ for at least another season.

          • steveg

            With that in mind, perhaps a different direction with your criticisms would or could be of benefit to the conversation. We all know how you feel about Helton, trust me. What other areas are you critical of. Just trying to keep the conversation fresh, I think everyone knows what everyone thinks about Helton by now. Carry on

          • rusoviet

            As they do you sir. Tyson Helton moved onto TN and the new Volunteer head coach Pruitt that’s a smart move. No blowbackes him or is he replac for at least two years. Now whoever replaces him or is he replaced?

            How fast will Kelley’s presence be felt conference wise? If Darnold decides to leave is the current squad and staff ready for games 2 & 3 next Autumn?

          • SucKiffin

            they have beaten him too

          • Jack B

            I wonder what Brian Kelly thought of USC’s talent? Not much obviously, as he was giving pre-game signals he wasn’t even worried about the game – and rightfully so. He knew he’d abuse USC’s thin DL and would totally stuff USC’s OL.

            Also, P12 coaches routinely love to praise USC’s talent. It makes them look good if they beat it and gives them an excuse if they don’t. USC’s OL is not even average in talent. Grabby and JJ are vastly over-rated and are picked on constantly.

          • Bob Pace

            I would hope Kelly/ND could win that game. If they couldn’t, then they should have given up football. I am not a Helton guy but:

            1) ND had a bye week
            2) SC had played how many weeks in a row?
            3) SC had how many injuries?
            and, here is the killer:

            4) ND had an off week. The school was out for Fall Break. This meant that ND players didn’t have to go to class, study academics.

            ND could devote as much time to game prep as they wanted. SC OTOH was a tired, beat up team.

            I just can’t believe that the USC admin and Pac-12 would allow this to happen. What a bunch of idiots. USC should always be allowed to have at least a bye week before ND since they do almost every year (or a cupcake before).

          • Jack B

            Lots of teams beat opponents coming off byes. It’s not even remotely uncommon. You make it sound like a death sentence. Hardly. What, did USC, a cupcake if there ever was one, need to play a “tired” ND team to compete? Were USC’s OLs too overworked to block?

            Anybody who watched the game could see USC just didn’t show up, couldn’t compete the entire game and ND could have won by 60 if they wanted.

            It was a shameful “performance”, if you can call it that, leading to USC’s OL coach walking out of interviews following the slaughter. Fans wanted answers and Callaway wasn’t prepared to say, “We couldn’t block the Irish because they were coming off a bye.”

            Swann didn’t buy it either, not for a second, and he had a big sit down with Helton after the game in Los Angeles. In that conversation, the ground was set for the departure of Tyson Helton, among many other things that were upsetting to Swann about Helton’s ND fiasco.

          • fast fred

            Great “inside” info!

          • Bob Pace

            Nice dissertation, Butch. Many great points. Unfortunately, not about anything germain to what I wrote about. Maybe you should actually read to the end of my message.

            Yes, some teams will beat a team coming off a bye. However, that is NOT the way to bet. But I digress.

            My point was not the bye week ND had. It was the WEEK LONG BREAK the entire school took. If you think that doesn’t matter, then conversation is over. Statistically speaking, it is one of the easiest bets one can ever make. Probably a higher probability than playing away on a Friday after an away game.

          • Jack B

            Anything you say Butch.

          • steveg

            Hey Bobby, if you place so much emphasis on the week off of school, why is it so many teams come back from a bye and are flat. This long bowl break is going to be very significant in several upcoming games. I am smart enough to not bet football.

    • SucKiffin

      It will be the end of Gomer

  • Jack B

    Go Sam! My favorite USC QB, ever. But he had a lot of magnificent help this year (especially on D which outright won the TEXAS, UTAH and 2nd STAN game for us) – and needed it because for awhile he was a curious turnover machine and also for some reason lost his touch on the long ball.

    Helton’s main job now is to fix subpar talent at OL, DB and even LB, If he doesn’t do that, it’ll be rocky days ahead despite lots of other terrific USC players on board. It would surely help if we continue to ditch a few coaches who aren’t pulling their weight in both recruiting and otherwise.

    But the players love to play for Helton and Darnold’s not the reason for that. Helton’s got at least two more years as USC’s coach so we may as well enjoy the ride. If he beats the Buckeyes, SW will still be saying it was in spite of Helton. That’s as predictable as fires in California.

    • steveg

      Right on Jack. I think the defense is only going to be better next year, the O line should improve, the RB is solid, WR looking good, so if Sam stays it will be fun, if he leaves, reload and see what happens.

    • Rock2112

      I am lukewarm on Helton at this point, but not down on him. Darnold did a lot for him for sure, but we came into this season as the second least experienced team in the FBS and we went 11-2 with a Pac-12 championship and de facto Rose Bowl. The lack of maturity and experience of the players themselves was evident in the number of penalties and head-scratching poor judgment at times. With that base to work with, it could have been a lot worse. Helton is a stabilizing force and we need that for at least a few years. If he can upgrade the staff and get some of the under-performing position groups coached up, we could be fine. Beat the Bucks, and we could get real momentum rolling.

  • Tebow_Obama

    Serra High’s Bryan Addison the #1 athlete in the country just committed to UCLA.

    And the hits just keep on coming.

    This looming disaster the Trojans are about to face in the recruiting war is no longer on Clay Helton, it’s on Lynn “I am Max Nikias Yes Man” Swann.

    • Jack B

      Addison has always been a little gutty fan. What did Swann ever have to do with that?

    • Chris

      the way this works is you win something, anything, ever. Then it is OK to brag a little, until this happens, shut up. Nobody cares.

      • Jack B

        Poor ucla. They can’t win games no matter who they sign. Honker Rosen turned out to be an injury machine who was resented and disliked by his team-mates. Typical losing ucla football. It’s a tradition.

        • fast fred

          Is that more “inside” info from UCLA?

    • Gabby

      BFD!!!!!……..the heads at the 5 guys are filthy. Bring the full crew, lots of work to do………Use the new PT, it’s softer….thanks

  • flyerz73

    Scott Wolf … negative comments all of the time. WTF?

    • steveg

      If Wolf came out about something with positive enthusiasm we would all know it is bogus and nobody would believe him.

      • gotroy22

        Like if Gollllly Noiiiid actually made a observant post about football.

  • Jack B

    USC placed only 1 single player on the just released 2017 AP All-America team and that was on the 3rd team – Ronald Jones.

    Where’s all this stupendous USC talent that’s winning Trojan games despite Helton’s drawbacks? USC’s physical talent has obviously been over-rated all year. That’s where Helton really needs to go to work, in the recruiting of OLs (ND had 2 1st team AAs), LBs and DBs.

  • StokaNoka

    If Darnold didn’t turn the ball over so many times in the 1st half of games he wouldn’t have needed to save them. The only game he really “saved” the team was when he put the team in a hole against Utah. He kept Cal and Texas in the game and immediately killed the momentum against ND with a fumble on the first play. He’s been good. But he’s put up Cody Kessler stats and I’m sure he Kessler never “saved” Sark.

    • gotroy22

      Stick to Starrr Warsss analysis, Golllly Noiiiddd.

      • steveg

        Actually he has a good point, for a change.

        • gotroy22

          You actually believe his nonsense that Kessler, who lost to the ruins 2 out of 3 tiems, is equal to Darnold who beat the ruins both times?

          • gotroy22
        • StokaNoka

          Could you tell me where else I haven’t had one? ________ insert here please

          • gotroy22

            Every post you have ever made.

      • StokaNoka

        Stick to your ocd comebacks rainman

        • gotroy22

          Golllly Noiiiid, your lame attempt to equate Kessler with Darnold was your dumbest comment here since you said Jar Jar Binks was a better character than Hans Solo.

          • StokaNoka

            Look at what both did with their teams and tell me something that backs up your air headed argument. And no doubt Darnold has had much better defenses. Also, tell me any game other than PSU where he actually “saved” the team.

          • gotroy22

            Per the LA Times:

            Sam Darnold says give the Trojans just 20 seconds and they can mount a comeback

            By Zach Helfand
            Sep 17, 2017 | 8:30 PM

            Sam Darnold says give the Trojans just 20 seconds and they can mount a comeback Sam Darnold led USC 52 yards down the field in 39 seconds for the field goal that sent Saturday’s game against Texas into overtime, where the Trojans prevailed. (Shotgun Spratling / Los Angeles Times)
            Standing on the sideline watching Texas drive down the field, seeing the Longhorns squeeze out the clock, Sam Darnold watched the seconds tick down and hoped.

            It may seem that the USC quarterback can mount a late drive with any amount of time left, but he cannot, he said, standing outside the Trojans’ locker room after a 27-24 double-overtime victory over Texas on Saturday night.

            “As long as they don’t get it below, like, 20 seconds, I think we’re very comfortable that we can go down there and score,” Darnold said.

            Darnold led USC 52 yards down the field in less than 40 seconds for the field goal that sent the game into overtime.

            Darnold had a play that will be a staple in his Heisman highlight reel. On the final drive of regulation, he hopscotched past a diving rusher, jumped and threw a strike to running back Stephen Carr.

            A day later, after digesting the drive, coach Clay Helton said he wasn’t sure if any other quarterback he has been around could’ve led USC back.

            “He provides one thing to your team that I think is critical no matter how adverse the situation is,” Helton said of Darnold. “And that’s hope.”

          • StokaNoka

            After he throws 2 picks? I know one was tipped, but you can’t say he is not supposed to cancel out his TOs with a game tying drive. Because if he doesn’t, you’d still give him a pass. And what about WSU? That wasn’t him barely throwing 50% and two bad TOs, including to end the game? Hmm keep quoting your one favorable argument without any backstory

          • gotroy22

            So in Gollllly NOiiid;s World, even Joey Kaufman of the OC Register is wrong and you are right? Read it and weep, cupcake….

            “Most Influential 2016: Sam Darnold helped save USC’s season

            By JOEY KAUFMAN |
            PUBLISHED: December 24, 2016 at 10:00 am

            LOS ANGELES – Sam Darnold caught Justin Davis off guard.

            Before USC lined up for a play early in the fourth quarter of a season-shifting, 26-13 upset of fourth-ranked Washington in November, Darnold took the senior running back aside.

            The sellout Husky Stadium crowd was roaring. Davis was filling in on the series for Ronald Jones, the breakout sophomore who had rushed for almost 400 yards in his past two games.

            “Don’t miss a beat, JD,” Darnold spurred him on, stressing they could not afford a dropoff. The margin remained too tight.

            It was Davis’ first game in a month because of a high ankle sprain, a time span, it turns out, that allowed redshirt freshman Darnold, who had starred at San Clemente High, to settle into his role as the Trojans’ starting quarterback.

            The last time the two players had shared the backfield was during Darnold’s third start. The newfound assertiveness from the normally stoic passer struck him.

            “Oh, wow,” Davis shot back, “you really are the man.”

            Recalling the exchange a month later, Davis smiled and shook his head.

            “He’s a freshman saying that to me, and I’m a senior,” he said. “That let me know this dude is the real deal.”

            Darnold delivered a masterful performance on the mid-40 degree night in Seattle. Against the undefeated Huskies, he completed 70 percent of his passes for 287 yards and two touchdowns. And the more difficult the throws became, the more precise he was. According to the analytics website Pro Football Focus, Darnold was 11 of 12 on passes that traveled 10 yards or more.

            The victory allowed USC to reassert itself on the national stage, the high-water mark along its run of eight consecutive victories to close the regular season. Earlier this month, the team secured an at-large berth to the Rose Bowl game against Penn State, the Big Ten champion, in what will be its first appearance in eight years.

            It capped an inexplicable rise and transformation under Darnold.

            Three months earlier, USC was floundering.
            .
            On a cool night last week, Darnold huddled with his parents outside his residence near USC’s campus.

            Trophies were tucked away in the trunk of the family’s car.

            Teammates had voted Sam the “most inspirational” player at the team’s postseason awards banquet earlier in the evening, and he also received the Bob Chandler Award, an annual distinction for an underclassmen showing athletic ability, academic achievement and character.

            As his father looked to unpack the hardware, Darnold stopped him.

            “Why are you bringing those in?” Darnold laughed. “Those are for you. I don’t want those.”

            Of course. He shrugs at the acclaim

            The Rose Bowl beckons, where in less than two weeks he will lead the Trojans back in the Pasadena sunshine.”

            Had enough yet?

          • gotroy22

            So in Gollllly NOiiid;s World, even Joey Kaufman of the OC Register is wrong and he is right? Read it and weep, cupcake….

            “Most Influential 2016: Sam Darnold helped save USC’s season

            By JOEY KAUFMAN |
            PUBLISHED: December 24, 2016 at 10:00 am

            LOS ANGELES – Sam Darnold caught Justin Davis off guard.

            Before USC lined up for a play early in the fourth quarter of a season-shifting, 26-13 upset of fourth-ranked Washington in November, Darnold took the senior running back aside.

            The sellout Husky Stadium crowd was roaring. Davis was filling in on the series for Ronald Jones, the breakout sophomore who had rushed for almost 400 yards in his past two games.

            “Don’t miss a beat, JD,” Darnold spurred him on, stressing they could not afford a dropoff. The margin remained too tight.

            It was Davis’ first game in a month because of a high ankle sprain, a time span, it turns out, that allowed redshirt freshman Darnold, who had starred at San Clemente High, to settle into his role as the Trojans’ starting quarterback.

            The last time the two players had shared the backfield was during Darnold’s third start. The newfound assertiveness from the normally stoic passer struck him.

            “Oh, wow,” Davis shot back, “you really are the man.”

            Recalling the exchange a month later, Davis smiled and shook his head.

            “He’s a freshman saying that to me, and I’m a senior,” he said. “That let me know this dude is the real deal.”

            Darnold delivered a masterful performance on the mid-40 degree night in Seattle. Against the undefeated Huskies, he completed 70 percent of his passes for 287 yards and two touchdowns. And the more difficult the throws became, the more precise he was. According to the analytics website Pro Football Focus, Darnold was 11 of 12 on passes that traveled 10 yards or more.

            The victory allowed USC to reassert itself on the national stage, the high-water mark along its run of eight consecutive victories to close the regular season. Earlier this month, the team secured an at-large berth to the Rose Bowl game against Penn State, the Big Ten champion, in what will be its first appearance in eight years.

            It capped an inexplicable rise and transformation under Darnold.

            Three months earlier, USC was floundering.

            .
            On a cool night last week, Darnold huddled with his parents outside his residence near USC’s campus.

            Trophies were tucked away in the trunk of the family’s car.

            Teammates had voted Sam the “most inspirational” player at the team’s postseason awards banquet earlier in the evening, and he also received the Bob Chandler Award, an annual distinction for an underclassmen showing athletic ability, academic achievement and character.

            As his father looked to unpack the hardware, Darnold stopped him.

            “Why are you bringing those in?” Darnold laughed. “Those are for you. I don’t want those.”

            Of course. He shrugs at the acclaim

            The Rose Bowl beckons, where in less than two weeks he will lead the Trojans back in the Pasadena sunshine.”

            Had enough yet?

          • gotroy22

            You think the LA Times and Coach Helton were air headed when they praised Darnold for saving the Texas game? Kessler lost to the ruins 2 out of 3 times and went to zero Rose Bowls. Darnold beat the ruins twice and won the Rose Bowl.

          • StokaNoka

            And that had nothing to do with them having better teams? Do you think Helton would ever say “he almost blew it for us but then made up for it”. He never saved them with Utah, 3 fumbles? Really? And with the defense not allowing any points from the 2nd quarter until the last possession, who saved who? I love how you bring newspaper opinions as your evidence, like you need someone else’s words to make up for your lack of writing on your own. Also, Hard to go to a big bowl game when your defense is trash, SC hasn’t had a complete team since ‘08, why you think we just won the conference this year? Look at the points allowed during all those rivalry losses. Hell, even look at Darnolds play from this UCLA game. Saved em right?

          • gotroy22

            I love how you think the word of a stalker and Star Wars fanatic should be accepted over 3 real impartial sources. You really are a kook. By the way the sanctions didn’t affect SC until 2012 but you seem to believe they started in 2009! What a loon you are. It’s a waste of time talking to you like you are a intelligent human being.

          • gotroy22

            I love how you dismiss impartial sources , like we should trust the opinion of an internet stalker who only knows about Starrrr W arrrrrss. You even had the nerve to type this howler,”SC hasn’t had a complete team since ‘08″???? Gee SC only had the 2nd, 4th, 4th 1st and 4th recruiting classes from 2007-2011 but Gollllly Nooiiiid says they didn’t have a complete team! You really are a kook.

          • StokaNoka

            Lmao you callin a team with 10 less schollies than every other complete. Even though I was referring to actual strengths of the squad, your donkey post takes the cake

          • gotroy22

            Lmao Golllly Noidd thinks the NCAA sanctions started in 2007! You should try relying on the OC Register and LA Times instead of creating your own reality you kook.

          • StokaNoka

            I said since ‘08. Jeez math must be hard to know ‘07 was actually before not after. Dementia symptons started awhile ago I see.

          • gotroy22

            Yes Golllly Noiiid if you stupidly claim we didn’t have a complete team since 2008 that meant the recruiting had to be horrible before 2008…but simple logic isn’t your strong point. Stalking and Staaaaaarrrr Warrrrsss are so that is something.

          • StokaNoka

            You also don’t consider the actual original meaning of when I used complete, which was the strengths of the team. Losing damn near their whole defense and starting a freshman might’ve had something to with their drop off as well, and after Carrol left, you know the rest. Monte and his retro cover 2 couldn’t stop a cold with no matter what “star recruits”, which of course starts with having to o play with 10 less guys every year, then needing about another 3 years to build back up, which brings us to 2016. I think you mixed the phrase simple logic with simple minded.

          • StokaNoka

            Darnold is a better QB overall, but don’t try and make it out like they couldn’t win games with an average qb that doesn’t turn the ball over. They’d still win against Utah, Cal, Texas, UCLA and probably WSU as well.

  • Steve B.

    The Trojans won the MPSF in Men Water Polo beating ucla, then had to play them again for the national title. A stupid system where the top four teams are always USC, ucla, Cal, & Stanford and three qualify for the national playoffs no matter who wins the conference. Eliminate all those Gymnastic & Softball titles which USC has no programs where would the ‘ruins rank?

    • fast fred

      Whats the problem? Why doesn’t sc have those programs that you speak of?

      • gotroy22

        We are too cheap.

  • NMSF

    ****** Eight UCLA championships are in gymnastics

  • Sandy Underpants

    So did Clay win it or not?

  • Sas

    Fun fact for ya.

    Ucla has more women’s titles……..

    • gotroy22

      You mean womyn’s…