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Urban Meyer

In the eight seasons since Pete Carroll left USC, the Trojans lost 32 games. In 16 seasons as a head coach, Urban Meyer has lost 31 games.

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  • rusoviet

    Meyer’s total for 31 losses is over 17 full seasons not 16.

    He’s won ‘3’ NC’s (FL 2 OH St. 1)

    This is going to be an interesting game to watch

  • Paul Muad’dib

    In the eight seasons since Pete Carroll left USC, Scott Wolf has eaten 32 dozen donuts per USC win. Which is more than any other beat writer during that time span.

  • Michael Guarino

    What’s Meyer’s bowl record at Ohio State? Could it be .500?
    #Let’sPutThingsInPerspective

    • Paul Muad’dib

      Wolf’s perspective is that of a jealous UCLA or ND fanboy who likes to dress up in a USC jersey to feel better about himself when in public.

    • Pudly76

      Shutout last year no less

      • Paul Muad’dib

        Wolf would suggest is better to get shut out than to allow 49 points in a win.

        • Pudly76

          Wolf would always suggest anything is better than what SC does

      • Michael Guarino

        Let’s make it two in a row (and get him fired)….

        • Pudly76

          Noticed this morning on the bama site that poor nicky saban was complaining how hard it was to recruit the last 2 weeks.. they didn’t even have a conference championship game to play and they don’t start bowl prep till next week. Helton has another inhome visit tonight. Crazy.

          • Michael Guarino

            Nuttiest thing ever, Pudly. When it comes to recruitment, let’s penalize the coaches who made it to a bowl game (and reward the ones who didn’t).

          • Pudly76

            Of course the intention was to allow the kids who wanted the process over with to end it earlier, but I’m curious as to how the late coaching changes will affect these kids..as always happens after the bowl games and the end of the nfl season, firings occur and the carrousel starts anew.

        • gotroy22

          And then hire him on the rebound?

          • Michael Guarino

            It wouldn’t look too hot if Helton shut Meyer out and we, then, fired Helton in order to get Meyer.
            #ButThatDoesn’tMeanWeWouldn’tDoIt….

    • rusoviet

      He’s 3 – 2 but those are major major games

      2012 OH St. ineligible due to Tressel’s previous antics but had a record of 12 – 0 regular season and # 3 ranking
      2013 11 – 1 reg / lost the Orange Bowl to # 12 Clemson)
      2014 11 – 1 reg / beat # 1 AL in Sugar then beat # 2 OR for NC
      2015 11 – 1 reg / beat # 8 notre dame Fiesta
      2016 11 – 1 reg / lost NC to Clemson

      • Michael Guarino

        Crap! Do we have to count play off games, Alv? I like the way I “fixed” his record by only counting the final bowl game in 2014.
        #ThatsTheWayTheyDoPercentagesInWashington

        • rusoviet

          You’d better – it’s telling how USC – since 2005 hasn’t been in any meaningful post-season playoff Rose Bowl notwithstanding.

          It is also why Meyer and OH St. are truly a formidable foe and those calling for Helton to be recruiting instead of ‘learning; how one wins a nationally televised out-of-the-running but Nielsen bonanza that the Cotton Bowl will be this year’ are nuts.

          The odds makers have the point spread right (-7/7.5 OH St.).

          • Michael Guarino

            I would love it if ALL USC’s attention was on this bowl game, Alv. Ali said one time that “there’s always a better plan behind your original plan.” I’m sure we’ll have a good game plan —I just don’t know if the staff is SO obsessed with winning that they’ll find “the plan behind the plan.” It’s probably a blend of the two tight end attack used by Iowa and the bombs away plan used by Oklahoma. But the perfect game plan for Ohio State is out there—if we’re willing to search night and day for it until Christmas.
            Every detail matters!

          • rusoviet

            Mike you and many have noted how ‘…caught in the headlamps….’ Helton looked as he made note of his brother moving on to TN last week.

            I sense Clay Helton is re-living what he didn’t know prior to the season opener for 2016 against AL.

            Great coaches embrace the horrific challenge – they realize they need to fight through it or as we say as a program ‘fight on’. Not convinced Helton wants anything to do with that strategy based on others stating he need’s to recruit and have his assistants coach.

            The fence sitters, recruit wise, will choose based on what they see on the 29th not on what Helton or anyone says before that

          • Michael Guarino

            It’s a fricking shame, Alv —-but this year, for this game —-all attention should be on prep for Ohio State. It would be HUGE for our program to take this game. I’m so crazy obsessed with this game it even bothered me when Helton said he wanted everybody to go home and enjoy Turkey, mashed potatoes and pumpkin pie for Christmas. When fighters are getting ready for a championship, it’s fish and vegetables….and a half hour off for Christmas. The team that wins this game will be the team that deserves to win this game. I hope that team is us.

          • rusoviet

            Helton is a decent man and he sees the kids need a break. It isn’t his style to be suddenly acting like Sabin or Hayes or Coryell et. al.

            The problem i see is that Helton doesn’t seem to be working on ‘counters’ from OH St. esp. ones that will be imposed in the 2nd half.

            I don’t think he honestly has the grey matter to do such otherwise he’d have shown such this year esp. in all those near losses in the 2nd half – the kill stroke.

            He reminds me a lot of Ray Malavasi – can’t believe he’s gotten to where he has and no one else can either.

          • Michael Guarino

            Two differences between Malavasi and Coach Helton:
            (1) Helton’s players PLAY for him
            (2) Helton doesn’t look like he’s been eating bags of concrete for lunch and dinner.

          • rusoviet

            Got that and Helton hasn’t (yet) fired his staff. He still reminds me of Malavasi in terms of wondering how he is where he is.

          • Michael Guarino

            You have to admit, Alv, that Ray Malavasi would probably kill for Helton’s won/loss record….

          • rusoviet

            Let us all know when Helton gets us to a playoff ok?

          • Michael Guarino

            He did have a golden run there for a while, didn’t he, Alv?

    • gotroy22

      Yes only one measly national title.

      • Michael Guarino

        I still think my way of looking at things makes more sense, gt. We just ignore Meyer’s title in our calculations.
        #ConfidenceBuilder
        #WorkedAgainstAlabama,Right?

        • gotroy22

          I like confidence!

          • Michael Guarino

            It can’t hurt, right? And if a few white lies get us there……

  • steveg

    Not an even comparison. What a dumb post.

  • Evil Robot

    “Don’t Trust Stats

    This is why I’m not a stats guy: Sam Darnold 19-35 266 yards. Manny Wilkins 17-29, 259 yards #USCvsASU”

    Posted on October 29, 2017 by Scott Wolf

    After reading the list of stats from the past few weeks, I suppose this is where you realize there’s a “Wolf” for everything.

    • Peaceful Warrior

      If we win Scott will say where was this team all year?
      #sourpuss

      • Evil Robot

        Yeah, he’s also the guy who picked SC to go 10-2 and then lose to Stanford in the Pac-12 Championship game… yet says they didn’t live up to expectations by going 11-2 and beating Stanford in said Championship.

        • Peaceful Warrior

          We could go 15-0 and win the championship and Scotty would find a turd.

      • Sas

        He’ll call Petros, and they’ll try and fail to get one word out because all the studdering while in tears.

  • ItsAllAboutTheBall

    Had Meyer played USC in 2008 like he should have, he would have 32

  • Old Trojans never die

    There is a lot to be said for stability then. Maybe once we settle on a coach we can amass a record that Scott will approve.

  • hoohoolianFUCLA

    With early signing approaching, Is it too much to ask for discussion about that?

    With McGrath and Budrovich earning scollies, we are now at 85 with 10 SRs and 11 commits. Yes, we will surely have 1-4 early enrollees, but we will not likely have more than 15 slots open.

    This will be a tiny class. Getting 4 OLs and 4 LBs doesn’t look possible. Who won’t we get of:

    Jalen
    Hall

    Amon-Ra St.
    Brown

    Isaac
    Taylor-Stuart

    Merlin
    Robertson

    Jeremiah Martin

    Solomon Tuliaupupu

    Penei Sewell

    Will Jacob Daniel Transfer? Cole Smith, Dom Davis?

    Will we de-commit anyone? Andre Hunt for Hall or St. Brown?
    Kana’i for Merlin or Solomon

    • Sas

      I think Hall is going to Oregon. Robertson is close to committing to Oklahoma. I’m not 100% sure so if I am behind on any news my bad, but I believe that’s where those two are at with USC

      • Ben Factor

        Will there be significant transfer losses? You’re often more in the know than Wolfie.

    • Ben Factor

      I appreciate your changing the subject, Hoo. Scott’s note was little more than provocative, and what followed was pretty dull.

      Do you think your projected recruiting shortfall stems more from lack of strong planning, or from uncertainty about which coaches will be around, and which will not?

      • hoohoolianFUCLA

        Hey Ben.

        with the performance of the OL and the possible prospects numbering 3 to add to 3 commits — not to mention not rock stars — I am very concerned about planning, both on the part of CH (which coaches will be around) and our O-LOL coach.

  • Sas

    Sports Center and Ohio’s #1sports radio guys salute you!

  • Sebastian Lane

    Sanctions are a son of a gun? Right?

  • Nader

    In the last 16 years, Scott Wolf has published 1,032 negative stories about everyone.