USC Night News

Wide receiver Amon-Ra St. Brown will announce his college choice Saturday. As I’ve said, expect him to pick USC over Stanford and Notre Dame.

Meanwhile, Arizona fired Rich Rodriguez. Details here.

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  • Old Trojans never die

    Wow I leave Rialto and all heck breaks lose. I better get home before Saturday. Meanwhile keep an eye on Arizona. It could get interesting.

  • 04Trojan

    Well, surprisingly it wasn’t his record that got him fired. He was on the hot seat for sure before the season started, but with the emergence of Tate, things at least looked up for UA next season. Could be interesting now.

    • Sandy Underpants

      Tate couldn’t save his job at Michigan and Tate couldn’t save his job at UA

  • rusoviet

    Boom – new Pac-12 coaches at: ucla, OR St., AZ St., AZ whew!

    Next year……

    • GOMER HELTON

      You forgot Oregon

      • Gabby

        Did you update the resume?……. hey!……there’s no shame in getting the bulldogs to the Pop Warner Turkey Bowl. The real shame was the 58-0 loss. I’m sorry to hear the parents and players don’t want you back next season.

    • Fred Sampson

      Fantastic, now Arizona needs to hire a coach, that will help take the conference to a physical level of football

  • tigerbalm2010

    What’s the over & under on how many times Wolfy will blab “USC recruits itself”?? I’ll say 20.

    • Jack B

      Idiot blather.

    • gotroy22

      What’s the over & under on how many rah rahs will defend Helton after the Cotton Bowl embarrassment? I’ll say 10.

      • steveg

        Dude, lighten up just a little. LOL

        • gotroy22

          It’s a joke, get it?

  • Fred Sampson

    Why do I keep hearing about great receivers, as oppose to great offensive lineman?

    • Jack B

      You and I both know that great lineman are much harder to come by than receivers. USC needs a big reset in the recruiting of OLs. Not sure if Helton/Callaway are up to that.

      • RegalTrojan

        It’s almost dreadful to think about our next season with a weak OL compounded by a new signal caller in the middle. Are we bound for a nightmarish season, JB?

        • gotroy22

          Maybe we can bulk up some those 3rd string WRs on the team and have them block?

    • RegalTrojan

      Probably because receivers are much easier for Helton to hug than the big bodies.

      • Jack B

        Brutal. Hah!

        • RegalTrojan

          JB, in order for us to understand Helton’s football philosophy, we must understand who his coaching idols and mentors were prior to becoming the HC. They’re none other than Kiffin and Sark. I don’t think we can expect much change because the coaching tree of Helton doesn’t have a decisive emphasis on recruiting and developing the first-rate big men for the team.

          • Jack B

            We’ve always got Swann, who knows exactly what we need. That’s indisputable. Helton will get with the program – or L.A. will just be a former residence. I somehow think Helton doesn’t want to throw this all away without a fight. The ND and OHIO ST debacles may be just the thing we need to see real progress. How could that not be for a man who’s been around football coaching all his life?

          • RegalTrojan

            Yes, we’ve got a true tough football mind in Swann, and hopefully, his influence will somehow alter Helton’s basic approach in his football philosophy. Next year will tell the tale.

          • steveg

            A bunch of good guys on here with some opposing thoughts but in the end we all want the same thing, just a different route to get there.

          • RegalTrojan

            Good guys? I hope their intentions are indeed good because it’s often hard for me to see it that way.

          • steveg

            Chill buddy, USC is coming back from what was almost a death sentence.

          • RegalTrojan

            I’m cool as a cucumber, steveg.

          • Fred Sampson

            Sanctions have nothing to do with the position USC is in, horrible decisions by the athletic administration, and coaching selections are hampering the program.

          • Chris

            Like they have bad intentions? You are talking about football. It’s pretty difficult to have an evil plot that hurts people by throwing out an opinion on a football coach. Perspective. Fight on!!!

          • RegalTrojan

            What’s bad is relative. What might be good for one person may be bad for others. Fight on!!!

          • Chris

            I fully admit that I can’t think of this being too good or too bad for others. I am not as passionate as you. I just hope for some fun Saturday afternoons next fall.

          • gotroy22

            Exactly.

          • Brent4c

            His dad was the OL coach for no less than 4 NFL teams and 2 division 1 colleges. Maybe that isn’t a close enough association for you as an influence though.

          • RegalTrojan

            I really wonder why Helton’s job security is so freaking important to you. Are you his family or on his payroll? It’s also amusing that you seem to know every f’g detail of his life as well as his family’s. It’s rather obvious that you’re writing on here for something other than the passion for SC football.

          • Brent4c

            His job security is directly related to the stability of the program, that’s why I care. How many HC do you think we can run out of town before it really impacts recruiting etc. you act like replacing a coach is like changing a tire…it isn’t! It’s funny you keyboard warriors w literally no football knowledge must know more that Swann and all the HS coaches and parents who keep sending top kids to SC. If Helton was as
            Clueless as you say we would not get the kids we get, that is a guarantee. During Kiffin’s last year nobody was coming to SC. Amazingly we have the top QB for next year reclassifying just to get here, along w the top WR and top ILB. Combine that with the haul we had last year all those people must be pretty dumb to not see Helton knows nothing about football or coaching. You know what,
            You’re probably right. Your keen eye on schemes and your ever present time at practice is a better standard to judge the staff by.

          • RegalTrojan

            Wait right there. Nobody was coming to SC when Kiffin was here? And you claim you know SC football and its history? This is exactly why I think you’re a complete phony that’s simply guarding Helton’s job security. Hey, go back and check out what kind of recruiting classes Kiffin and Sark were pulling in when they were around. SC always brought in top 3 to top 5 classes consistently even through the sanctions. I wouldn’t call Helton a bad recruiter, but his recruiting still has a lot to be desired, mainly in getting the big and fast linemen on both sides of the ball. The bottom line is I’ve seen enough of him to know what he’s made of, and I don’t think he’ll ever take SC football any higher than he already has, so I hope you don’t waste your resources to persuade me otherwise because I’ve already drawn my conclusions on him.

          • Brent4c

            Reading comprehension not a strong suit there huh. I said “Kiffin’s last year” which if you actually followed the program you would know nobody was coming to SC. We weren’t even on Ju Ju’s radar nor Ajax for that matter. Mama and others were headed to Alabama. Only after he was fired did our top 5-7 guys come into the fold. You might want to learn more than just final recruiting rankings and actually know what’s going on. I don’t much care wkat you think. If you think posting on a message board is an attempt to save Helton from something he isn’t even in danger of (being fired) then I have way overestimated you.

          • RegalTrojan

            Whatever. I’m not going to waste my time with someone whose interest is tied with just one individual in the team. SC football is much larger than Helton, and it’ll definitely continue without him or any other individual despite your touching concern for it. Good luck defending Helton. My guess is 2018 will be his final year at SC. And I also guess the likes of you will be gone with him, too, by then.

          • Robert McLeod

            I also find these unusual posters’ opinions highly suspect. They’re alleging that a coaching change at SC will result in some sort of disaster for the program, so they better keep Helton for the long haul even if it means not being able to compete with the nation’s elites, and that we should be content with the stability and continuity a status quo would bring. What a nonsense! SC football will definitely benefit from switching to a more capable head coach with a fitting resume for the program. Keeping a seriously underqualified head coach will never return it to its former glory.

          • Stuart Leventer

            They sound way too focused and purposeful to be just ordinary SC fans. And they seem to have very little or no regard for other coaches and players, either. Everything they post is here is about making Helton stay. Isn’t it really strange only they’re the ones defending Helton with tooth and nail when nobody else really likes him?

          • gotroy22

            They are more loyal to the hired mercenary help than the real USC student athletes and alumni.

          • RegalTrojan

            Bingo!

          • Stuart Leventer

            Brent4c, Clay Russell, and john wolcott…three of the same. There are many others, too.

          • steveg

            Stuart, you sure about that? You start naming names you need to really have your stuff together.

          • Stuart Leventer

            Why’d you even care? Are you somehow related to them?

          • steveg

            Just asking, you want a blog of people that only agree with you and no difference of opinion? Sounds like we need to change the subject. We all know Helton will be here for 18. I get heated sometimes too. That is when I shut if down for a while.

          • RegalTrojan

            LOL…No, it’s quite the contrary. Almost all of my closest online friends in this blog have some different views than mine on many issues, and I can stomach them with no problem. But these one-track minded posters seem to have just one thing and one thing only in their agenda, which is to glorify Helton and keep him from getting fired. I actually hope you’re not one of them, steveg, because you have been sounded quite suspicious too.

          • steveg

            I will say I am in for the long term fix. That is quite unusual for me. I can see Heltons shortcomings. I also remember USC being the laughing stock of the ncaa when Sark came out drunk. This is after Pete’s decline and leaving, sanctions, gutless Haden unwilling to fight and lazy at his job, Kiffen and his dad on all the other stuff. I am sure you remember too. Colleges rarely fire coaches after two years, especially with Clay’s record, without a serious reason and grounds. They would become another joke passed around on espn. For one of the few times in my life I am being patient, letting the plan in hiring Helton play out as designed. I suggest you be patient also, we know the end of 2018 will be the end of Heltons contract as it stands now. That is my position on all of it, if it is suspicious then oh well, but in the long run USC is taking the wise and mature road to rebuilding I think. You know I dont want to argue with you, we get along great and have fun on here

          • RegalTrojan

            See that? Now they’re all voting up their own hilarious posts. Or is it just one guy with dozens of handles?

          • steveg

            Nice

          • gotroy22

            Kiffin’s last year ended on the tarmac after the ASU Annihilation so we will never know how many 5 stars he might have brought in.

          • RegalTrojan

            LMAO…Great point. Things can never be the same with the team when the HC gets fired on the tarmac!

          • Trojans 6942

            Y’all both wants what’s best. Regal see’s things as here and now. So he’s frustrated that we’re not a top 3 or 4 program. You see things as a process, coming out of probation. I myself see it a a process. Let Bama, OSU, Clemson go though what we had to and see if they would be a top 10 program. I said we wouldn’t beat OSU. The Reasoning was simple, top 3 recruiting classes for the last 5 yrs. Full classes while we are coming off 15 recruits ( shorten) a year. But we are in process of getting to that level. We’re probably a top Ten program working to get to that next level. Regal is just a guy who sees it as now. Again both of you are great fans and alum, both of you are passionate just different the hear and now.

          • gotroy22

            Bama and OSU did go through NCAA probation. Bama did zilch until they hired Saban. Meyer led OSU to an undefeated season while they were on NCAA probation.

          • steveg

            Thing was, neither of them went through what USC had to go through. Meyer picked up a team fully loaded ready to go. Saban had his struggles to get Alabama back, it took him 3 years. Helton is no Saban for sure, we know that.

          • fryer tuck

            Yet

          • gotroy22

            Kiffin was given a preseason #1 team in 2012.

          • steveg

            HA ha. Yes he was. What happened with that. I thought it was disgusting, but then I don’t think they should have been rated quite that high.

          • RegalTrojan

            Who else in the whole universe would be in such undying love with Helton even after the miserable CB?

          • gotroy22

            Yes it has to be the Mrs.

          • Trojans 6942

            Gotroy OSU received a one yr bowl ban and nine scholarships lost over 3 Years hardly a bump in the road.

          • gotroy22

            Bama lost 22 scholies.

          • Brent4c

            I suppose my expectations are too high. How can you see a football team as anything but a process. Otherwise you’re making kneejerk reactions, like firing a coach prematurely, and keep ending up in the same spot. Apparently this is the approach some on here want. Just look at their D line. We had Rasheem and in his same class OSU had 10 more scholarships. Of course they have more depth. That isn’t a coaching issue it’s an NCAA issue. I guess I expect a knowledgeable fan to understand that.

          • Trojans 6942

            Brent all I’m saying is nobody imo should believe that we should be in the same class as Clemson, Bama, OSU today. But my expectations are the same as everybody’s.

          • steveg

            About the 3rd game of the season I lost all expectations for this years team. We never knew who was coming out to play and how long they were going to play. I went into the CB erroneously with big hopes of a win. BOOM!!

          • gotroy22

            Me too. The Rose Bowl win fooled me.

          • Brent4c

            Agree, I was referring to my expectations for fans on here. The disposable nature in which many view the coaching staff also goes down to the kids. There’s a lot of “just get somebody else” without the understanding the somebody else is a freshman or sophomore due to the sanctions. There seems to be a lot who think football is really easy. Getting 11 people to all do their job and make the same reads on any given play is extremely difficult. I read posts from people who say they are old school but devalue NY 6 bowl games. It’s all about the playoffs. If we go 6-6 or even 7-5/8-4 next year Helton and staff will be gone and we’ll be staring over hoping we hit the coaching lottery.

          • gotroy22

            It’s Mrs Helton! Remember when PA’s wife used to write into the LA Times to defend him?

          • RegalTrojan

            Know what? I was thinking the same for a long time now. How touching! What a roomie! LOL!

          • Fred Sampson

            I blocked that idiot, and so should you, too many people want to argue, as oppose to making a comment, and keep it stepping

          • RegalTrojan

            It’s hard to see them not having an agenda, Fred. They even write like pro junkies with all kinds of details on Helton’s family and the ancient history of all the football teams which are absolutely irrelevant to the current state of SC football.

          • Fred Sampson

            Exactly

          • gotroy22

            How did that familial association with defensive genius Monte work with Lane Kiffin?

          • Brent4c

            Monte Kiffin the guy w the Super Bowl ring? Yeah you probably know more you’re right.

          • gotroy22

            Too bad Lame Kiffin took after Mom.

        • schammer47

          Back to the junk pile, Hombre.

      • schammer47

        Get off it, UnregalTrojan.

        • RegalTrojan

          Zip it up, Scammer.

    • LamontRaymond

      Agreed. But you might as well pick up the #1 receiver in the nation every year. Seems like it’s not a tough task. Especially when he’s a favorite target of our next star QB, JT Daniels. (Assuming facts not in evidence, of course).

      • Jack B

        It would almost be worth losing St. Brown to see what SW would say about it. Since “USC just recruits itself”, he could go to town with that for weeks, maybe years.

        • LamontRaymond

          Yep, he sets up those little games. You should see some of the Pete stuff he wrote in the day – waybackmachine fodder.

      • Fred Sampson

        Without a doubt, I agree, but I’d like to read about USC signing a few great offensive lineman every now and then, because we won’t win a national championship without them

      • gotroy22

        It proves USC recruits itself when the top recruits still come in after that Cotton Bowl embarrassment.

    • steveg

      Because we have a great shot at getting one of the best in the nation. What could possibly be wrong with that Fred. We went through the body counts at WR and OL a short while back, and they were pretty close. They are not recruiting 5 WR like Sark would do.

    • Lunderful

      It’s ironic that such big people as linemen are so low profile.

      • Fred Sampson

        That’s why we keep seeing the same schools contending for national championships, because some coaches get it, and some don’t

    • Trojan96

      I’m with Fred on this one. St. Brown will be a great slot receiver, but we need OLs. We are only targeting one more OG this year, and he’s predicted to go elsewhere.

  • 88 Straight

    Jim Mora, Todd Graham and Rich Rod all hired in the same year. Each one of them won the South one time. All of them got fired in the same year. Lincoln had a secretary named Kennedy…..

    • gotroy22

      But only Rich Roid pulled a Harvey Weinstein.

      • 88 Straight

        Allegedly.

  • marvienna

    Because of the emergence of Khalil Tate this year, I would have given Rich Rod one more year to see what the two could have done together.

    • gotroy22

      Except Rich Roid only played Tate after his favorite QB went down with an injury.

  • Pac12 fan

    Where are the asst firings or end of year press conference by Helton?

  • hoohoolianFUCLA

    RE; Rodriguez fired

    Title IX and other Leftist programs have made mere allegations enough to ruin a man (just ask Boormeester). Meanwhile, Germany will now punish Twitter and other social media with fines of up to $57 million (50 million euros), if it allows “hate speech” to be posted on their system. This is far beyond the stupidity of Discus not allowing words with T and AR and D to be posted in that order. (You cannot post, “Hoisted on his own pit@rd” without altering the spelling — as if none of us are bright enough to bypass such childish rules!)

    You need a degree from Brentwood U to know what is currently and subjectively unacceptable in today’s Orwellian world.

  • steveg

    Tony Boselli finalist for nfl HOF.

  • steveg

    St. Brown is going to be an immediate impact player, especially when teamed up with Daniels.