You know which underclassmen returned to USC? The ones that had little choice. Porter Gustin was hurt. Iman Marshall had a subpar season. Cameron Smith did not project as a high-round pick so coming back makes sense. Ditto Marvell Tell. Chuma Edoga struggled this season. Toa Lobendahn has little film for NFL teams at center.
But the ones who had any chance were outta here.
You’re belaboring the obvious. You listed the reasons why any player leaves or stays. Yaaaawwwwnnnn…..
Yes, players who are going to get drafted in the early rounds leave college early for the NFL. Players that aren’t going to be high draft picks will be advised that they should stay in school.
Water… wet.
Ice… cold.
Calling this is “thought” is a bit insulting to real ideas.
Oh lol.
That was the best one today…
Oh the blogger…
Oh Magoo!
Scott’s post here is not the mark of a sophisticated, knowledgable sportswriter. He just wants to kick up a fuss — clickbait.
Chuma Edoga is another highly decorated player, who NEVER developed into a dominating offensive lineman. That’s why I never get excited about the four, and five star players, coming to play for Clay Helton’s coaching staff
Yeah, that Juju Smith Shuster is just the pits. Same with Adoree Jackson.
Shutter is better now than when Gomer had him, wonder why ?
Maybe because he just turned 21 years old. And you’re wrong. JuJu was great at USC, with lots of fantastic receptions to prove it
Because he’s the third option and defenses accordingly…duh
It’s a mystery.
5 stars become 2 stars under Gomer & Co
Stupid
You can’t coach “feet”, you never could and you never will be able to. He’s decent, though slow. Just a dude who came out of HS way over-rated.
I’d like a new OL coach more than anyone, but since when do players escape responsibility for their own development? The good ones take the bit and run with it.
we are only school in the country where underclassmen leave. Alabama, Ohio St, Clemson have nothing but redshirt seniors.
And the only school that looses good coaches. .Bama OC to the Bills today.
I’m no fan of this head coach or his staff. However saying that the players who should have left did, isn’t newsworthy. Now losing players to the draft who should have stayed would be an indictment of Helton and his staff.
Like when all those ruins who abandoned Mora’s sinking ship after Hundley?
Why even comment? We knew Sam was leaving in August. I was not surprised by Rojo, and Burwhatshisname thought highly of himself.
However Cam Smith and Porter Gustin are still valuable to the team.
You do realize that Burnett led the Pac-12 in receptions, was second in TD’s and third in receiving yards and average per catch? It isn’t like the guy is some arrogant clown who can’t play. The problem is that he’s tiny and with a new QB and with a few emerging young WR’s, his statistical production is almost certainly going to take a hit. This will be his best shot at the draft.
And he’ll still have no NFL career
That could be the case, but this is his best shot, so he might as well take it and see how it plays out. It isn’t like he’s going to have some sort of growth spurt if he stays at SC.
And you’ll never be an analyst or scout for the nfl either.
Or a coach……. water boy is his true calling
That’s a truism. The sun rises daily. Shocker….
So the players w decent draft stock left…that seems pretty normal to me.
One things for sure that’s a strong group of seniors to lead in defense
Strong redshirts and incoming freshman too.
In a podcast last week the question was raised if Clancy would now play more guys. Answer : Not his style, However many are his recruits. We’ll see. Though that was interesting.
Year three for him better be his best.
His contract was up this year, Clancy only signed for two years.
That sounds like Helton wants to sink or swim with Clancy
Pretty much..remember, it was Sark who fired Clancy and brought in Wilcox..that didn’t go well either.
Clancy is not the problem. His schemes have kept us in games. Bradford should be gone. He’s a horrible DB coach.
I sure hope USCDan1986’s intel is correct about JDR. None of my fellow alumni or boosters have heard anything of JDR committing. They always know this stuff and tell me beforehand.
Quickly who is JDR? Sorry if it’s the obvious.
Jack Del Rio. USCDAN swears he’s our new Headcoach and Helton is taking a lessor role. I’ll believe it when I see it.
If he loses in Texas anything is possible
He is saying that this will happen before the season. It doesn’t make any sense to me.
I think that would only happen if Helton is forced out somehow. I don’t see that happening. But all bets are off if he loses in poor fashion against Texas.
Sas, You are threatening Clancy. Who are you to make such a threat. I thought only SW Gutter-Snipes post threats and accusation on this Blog, and there are many. Clay’s job at USC is rock solid. I just hope he stays at least 5 years with our Trojans, taking his Trojans to an NCAA National Championship level of performance. FIGHT ON !!!
Ha!
Wait what?
Exactly, lol
I don’t know why he’s been coming at me lately, but oh well.
Same here.. The JDR info I got is fluid. And he snaps! Lol
Sorry Dan but who is JDR?
J Del Rio
Of course. If Helton slips this season then he may come into play right? That’s what I think.
It can’t be fluid. It is a done deal. Enough with this, we all know it is your creation.
Creation.. Lol.. I was the first one who said Tyson was leaving and many thought I was wrong.. You are new here.. Im not!
The whole thing is silly. You say you talked to 10 people who confirmed, yet nobody in the world is reporting this. You also said JDR might be OC, yet he is a defensive coach. Just stop. I may be new here but I wasn’t born yesterday.
I know he has a defensive background.. I question that as well.. I stand by my info..
Did this info just fall from a tree…… I have concerns
10 USC trees..
You don’t fire a HC weeks before National signing
Day. I’m calling it fake news
I’m hoping your source(s) didn’t come from the 5 guys……just saying.
You know what that does to wolf’s creditabily
His college roommate was one of them who played in the nfl..
PTSD from the ND game.
Ha!
Sometimes he means well, but he does have one direction and one speed, ahead full on.
Helton’s job is not safe.. Lol.. Troll!
None of the above really matters if Jack Del Rio will be named HC any day/minute now, right?
Exactly!
My contacts tell me that it isn’t Jack Del Rio as HC, but rather Jack Nicholson. And my sources are golden.
Good for you..
You, sir, are a prevaricator. Try another tactic to garner attention.
Hey Asshat.. I have been on this site for a while.. Understand this, my intel has been pretty solid.. Im not attention getter.. Know more about USC athletics than most.. I only share when I check with multiple sources which I have and always do.. You obviously have no idea who I am and my connections to USC .. I also played baseball at USC and have worked in the sports industry 27 years.. You are a nobody looking to argue.. Find someone else..
Why the hostility? People question each other all the time and don’t use cute little euphemisms like asshat..then there’s those that do because the facts don’t support their positions and they need the distraction of foul mouthed language.
#unlax
I disagree 76.. The guy has been blogging for 4 months.. He’s challenged everyone on the board as I know more but insist he is just a fan of 35 years with no ties to USC. He’s also a Helton humper, so I doubt his cred and him ..He is a troll.. As for me, Im deep rooted in the program and know many within the AD.. I have shared nuggets, staff, team and recruiting.. I have no agenda.. I enjoy the chatter . but hate ignorant people..
You, sir, personify ignorance and hate. I graduated from USC with honors in 1974 (my sister in 1984). I have been peridically posting here for years. You lapse into middle-school vitriol when you have been justifiably called out on an outrageous claim. Move to decaf and stop with the 3rd grade tanturms. Here’s an idea: Question your “sources” about their veracity.
3rd grade.. Lol… Ok pops!
Is an “asshat” the little paper ring you place down on the seat before you dump?
Sounds like the best description I have heard so far.
Grow up! Stop stoking your lie!
Lie.. Ok you caught me…NOT!
“Pops”? Yep, you really cut me to the quick with that dagger. Where’s Jack today? You, sir, are a microcephalic. Clean up your pathetic act.
Dude.. Relax..I have forgotten more than you ever know about USC athletics.. Lol, cleanup?.. You wish you had my life.. Idiot!
Grow up! Expand your mind beyond puerile interests. You are a poster child for arrested development.
Lol.. Ok professor.. Smh..
You can blame it on the alcohol
Lol..Don’t drink!
Heeeeere’s Johnny!!! Are you sure it’s not Phil Jackson?
…..or the ghost of Michael Jackson
Jack Youngblood.? Jack Napier?
Jack Black?
Jack the ripper
Thats good news, it won’t be posted on here by Wolf. And Wolf, welcome to college ball, they stay and they leave everywhere every year, never changes. Why make coming back sound like a bad deal, oh ya, you know no other way.
Yep. Good point Steve. You are right on!
Well, Scott speaks reality, but has not offered anything novel here. Those whose respective draft projections are already very high and/or have likely peaked as a pro prospect (bc of innate size/speed/strength/quickness and/or injury history/risk) have opted to turn pro. The rest are staying.
Certainly, none of the conservative libertarians on this board would object philosophically to the pursuit of naked self interest. To the contrary, they embrace a philosophy that endorses same.
Then again, they pull back from that when it would damage the team they root for, and label the early departing players as “selfish”. But few of them seriously ask or deeply ponder: what is it about USC’s FB team that motivates my reacting against players pursuing naked self-interest? That might lead to way too much re-thinking of a lot things.
The same quick thought applies to why you’re still covering USC. If there was an opening in the obituary sections, you would have have been outta here, too.
Think you may be confused. WW has been wanting a blog job in the ENGLISH Isthmian league south division football. Sort of the witness protection of writing
The irony is completely lost on the 20+ year beat reporter at the Daily News, but he’s also the guy who is critical of coaches’ lack of attention to detail… then posts about SC’s home game at Washington St.
Total D bag
Thank you captain obvious. Or is it oblivious. Your in depth sports takes are one of a kind…so I think that you are telling us those players would not have been drafted, so they stayed. Wow, everybody already knew that. Is the sky still blue?
You mean the ones that are going to be millions richer this time next year. Amazing insight. Where else is this happening? Everywhere.
#doestheDNpayforthis?
Don’t be bitter Scotty. It’s all good and exactly like we all thought it would shake out.
Snide comments all the time gets old. How about four of our stars are ready for the next level and we wish them well?
Unbelievable victory by MN over NOLA truly once in a decade finish!
Here’s to the MN over PHIL and JAX over NE next Sunday – 21st January 2018!
Let’s have two teams that have never won a Super Bowl and one team that has never played in one before!
Can’t agree, SW. The players who stayed will be drafted should they play well in 2018. If they show substantial promise, they will be drafted far up the ladder.
Ok, here’s my quick thought Scottie, …….Navy’s coach replaces Helton 12/2018
We want the team to get better, not more Navy. And yes that was a euphemism for excrement.
Why would he not better the USC program. If he were to change his offense he would already be at a major school.
You say “You know which underclassmen returned to USC? The ones that had little choice”. So what’s your point? Isn’t that the way it is for most players nowadays. If you have a desire to play at the next level, you might as well go as soon as you think that you are ready. This isn’t badmitton. This is football. One more year could end in an injury that would end your chances at a pro career. Are you trying say that this program is run in a inconsistent way where you can’t develope as a player? That might be true but you couldn’t prove that by saying the players that are ready are leaving early. In this day and age, that’s probably the most logical thing to do.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. What a silly post. Who knows why they left? It’s a personal decision. All the guys who left are projected as high picks. Bama just lost 5 guys. It’s a personal decision. A family matter. UCLA had 4 guys leave on offense. Wouldn’t they want to stay and learn under Show cause? What is the point?
Isn’t that pretty much true at any school?
Well, Scottie boy, when a kid dreams of playing in the NFL his entire short life, then if he has a 25% chance or so of making it, I say
‘take it, kid,’ because you paid your dues playing 3-years of college ball, and this is probably your only chance at instant retirement money.
I like reading something that considers the boys. I think it should be all about them and their futures.
USC about to be 13 – 6 and 4 – 2 (Pac-12) victory over Cal.
And this differs from other Power 5 programs in what way?
Outside of all you bRuins pri*ks. I’m on the bayou, 15 miles from land. Drunk on happiness and moonshine. May God bless and may everyone and everything work out for all those who work hard. God bless Trojan alum. God bless to those who seek happiness. We all want happiness and to those who contribute to that need. God bless. Fight On.
What bayou?? I have a camp on the Lacassine.
Maybe SW will go pro (finally).
National Enquirer
These guys are seizing opportunity and know the limitations of their coaches, which are great, and usually I would recommend never to leave school early, but this time, I get it. Even though Sam Darnold is making a mistake, these other guys at meathead positions aren’t. While I believe SC will win the conference again next season, not because they will be great, but because the Pac-12 completely stinks, most of these guys don’t wanna come back to a team with an inexperienced QB, inexperienced running backs, mediocre coaches, and not a lot of promise. SC could lose everybody on the team and win this conference with all underclassmen. I think I’m gonna take the season off until November when the games matter.
Promise?
What’s the word on Jack Del Rio being our new HC for 2018?…… (chortle)
Hello fellow blog commenters. I just want to remind you that your unhinged pResident called Haiti, El Salvador, as well as all African nations “s#¡thole countries,” and asked to curb immigration from said nations and continent in favor of immigrants from 98% white/Caucasian Norway. Deny black and brown people entry then beg for people from a virtually all white country to immigrate to the US…not racist at all! *sarcasm*
Then the Liar-in-Chief denies his comments even though those present (along with his own staff) have corroborated those comments.
For those that still believe Dump and keep their support for him: keep on smoking your meth and your dope (I can tell you where to find more…see my profile pic, dummies!) Supporters have lost their mind and now their dignity.
#EmbarrassingPresident
#HittingNewLowsWeekly
#RacistA-hole
Pipe down, precious snowflake.
This is a sports blog. Frankly, I’m tired of the infiltration of political hate where we are trying to get some time away from our busy, stressful lives. Find a political blog where others like you want to share their own lies and hate.
Too bad. It’s called freedom of speech and as long as I’m not breaking blog rules, your point is moot. I read pro-Dump, hate-filled comments here all the time, yet one truthful comment every once in a while shakes your fragile privilege as a Dump supporter? trumpy is a lying blödel and as long as you can’t face facts I will continue to comment on that as well as on football.
Give us a break.
gray stool and his ruins believe in free speech as long as you agree with them and their racist socialist kook ideas.
Hello ruin s###hole.
You love your Fake News.
Are you still ducking and covering after the Dumbocrats that run Hawaii told everyone there was an incoming missile?
As reported on cnn, msnbc. The democrats would be mute if they didn’t have the word “racist”, yet it is them and their programs and empty promises holding down the poor from getting out of their situations.
Screw the Demorats and the Repubicans. You’re silly if you believe in either party and in the biggest liar, Trump and his cronies.
But you were the one morning Hiltery’s loss, gray stool. Please explain that one to the board again, we need a good laugh.
Kinda the point isn’t it?
Scooter, it sounds like you are rejoicing with your opinion. U did not get quotes from most of them, so it is just an opinion
Stop the presses!!
You mean to enlighten us by telling us that the underclassmen who returned did it because they had no choice? Damn Scott, you are a genius, a columnist without equal, your opinions and columns are so insightful.
You were so bitter on November 8th 2016, gray stool. You and your pal Sammy Powers cried yourselves to sleep as your heroine Hitlery went down to defeat!
#SugarSweetSchaudenfreude
Poor Lil’ Snowflake gray stool! I heard you melted when the Hawaiian air raid siren went off.
Jackwagon, this is a sports blog. You’re trolling the wrong site. Go troll a political news site and spew your trash where it won’t come off as some crazy person’s non-sequitur response. And by the way, you are still a little worthless snowflake that we all laugh at around here, no matter what you think. Go back to mommy’s basement, ya’ clown!
Look everybody, Lying gooBoy22 is so obsessed with me that he can’t help himself and he has to answer to every post that I write — especially the ones not even directed at him!!
What a toolbag! Haha.
#Owned