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Upon Further Review

Several readers complained that after reviewing the USC-Oregon game telecast and other highlight shows this week, there is no way the first play of the game was a pass instead of a run. For the record, quarterback John David Booty threw a pass behind the line of scrimmage to wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett for a 37-yard gain.
Jarrett's about half-a-yard behind Booty on the tape when he catches the ball. Monday, USC changed the play from a run to a pass, overruling the veteran stat crew that studies these plays before making the decision, and gave Booty more than 200 yards passing.
The Pac-10 says the home team makes the final decision. The point of all this is the lack of oversight, which allows stats to be padded after the fact, even in a high-profile game involving the highest-profile program in the country.

P.S. Can anyone offer video evidence that the play was really a pass?

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Who cares? Report something that people will actually be interested in. Perhaps the story of OJ Mayo being at USC this weekend. I thought you were supposed to be an insider...Just an idea!

Don't Care.
Don't Care.
Don't Care.

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"The point of all this is the lack of oversight, which allows stats to be padded after the fact, even in a high-profile game involving the highest-profile program in the country."

There is only one stat that matters after a game is played---the final score.

Otherwise, there really is no point. The veritable definition of 'pointless'...to be frank.

You say Booty's passing stats were padded. I say that USC's running stats were diminished. Is that a scandal?

"P.S. Can anyone offer video evidence that the play was really a pass?"

Scott, can you report something positive for a change? What's it to you if it was indeed a run or a pass? BIG DEAL!

To answer your question, yes.

Scott...why the hell is this important??? and why, 4 days after this game do you care?!!! You call this journalism??? Really, please write smething that is interesting for your readers. Talk about lack of oversight...Your editors at the Daily News need t over see you better!

USC runs this play 5 times a game and has since the Mike Williams era. It is a bubble screen, thrown behind the line of scrimmage so the receivers can block downfield.
I've always hated when they try to classify those things as runs.
A run is a handoff or a pitch. That play to Jarrett was clearly a pass and has been classified as such consistently by USC for much of the bast 5 seasons.

I was thinking the same thing when I watched the video. And the fact that everyone is jumping on it as if it's not big deal, which in the scheme of things it isn't. But USC, my alma mater, prides itself on integrity and earning things the right way. At least that's what the literature says. Clearly under the rules as defined this play was not a pass but a run. It was clearly an attempt to pad statistics which is ridiculous at this juncture. It's pretty much the MO for the athletic department though considering they went back and claimed two national championships from the 30s for the same reason.
But, yeah, in the scheme of things, it's pretty miniscule.

Lack of insitutional statistical control. Alert the NCAA!

Lack of insitutional statistical control. Alert the NCAA!

I'll provide video that this was a pass if you can provide video proving that the twice reviewed touchdown pass was tipped by a USC player.

F**k you. F**k you. F**k you.

Patrick,

How friggin' dumb are you?!?!?! I mean anybody who reads Wolf's blog on a regular basis knows that you are probably the dullest tool in the shed, but this is simply stunning.

"A run is a handoff or a pitch" ...???!!!??? ... LEARN THE RULES OF THE GAME!

Have you ever heard of the term FORWARD PASS?

Anything other than that is not a pass and thus not eligible to be credited with passing yardage.

You are incredibly dimwitted to think that the receiver being behind the line of scrimmage has anything to do with the play being classified as either a run or a pass.

Wise up ... USC illegally changed the scoring of the play to give Booty and Jarrett more yards where it counts.

Disgraceful move by them.

Dumb, dumb, dumb comment by you. Idiot.

Couldn't care less Wolf. I'd say get back to some real reporting, but we know how that goes for you...

FDOG,

You're the idiot. I am a former coach and player and I have forgotten more football than you'll ever know.

"I mean anybody who reads Wolf's blog on a regular basis knows that you are probably the dullest tool in the shed, but this is simply stunning." ---This is the first time I have posted, idiot, there is more than one Patrick in the world. Once you get out of prison, you'll see that. Have Wolf check my URL if u don't believe me.

My point was...USC has consisently run this play...and has consistently ruled it a pass. Rightly or wrongly, they have been consistent in their statistical analysis of this play. They did not change it to pad stats. They ruled it just like they always do. Any USC fan with an IQ above retarded (which obviously does not include you), has seen this play a hundred times...always called a pass!
If a screen pass is thrown as a backwards pass behind the line of scrimmage...would you call that a run? When was the last time you've seen a screen ruled a run? Not all screens are thrown as forward passes behind the line of scrimmage.
And I'm the dimwit? If Jarrett caught that ball past the line of scrimmage...it wouldn't have counted as anything...because it would have been called back for offensive p.i. (receivers blocking downfield) So, yes, his position in relation to the line of scrimmage DOES matter. Follow your own advice and learn the rules before you call me out.

Patrick:

How do you rule shovel passes then? It's literally the same as a pitch and run, but it has the added benefit of not being a fumble if it's dropped (Oregon had such a play this week). Is that a run or pass in your mind? Your post is dead on...the whole point of a backwards pass is so that you can put big blocks on the LBs or WRs depending where the play is headed.

Patrick (first time, last time poster Patrick),

You dumb F.M.er ... stop worrying about where Jarrett caught the ball in relation to the line of scrimmage!!! Focus you G.D.idiot!!! Focus on where Jarrett was in relation to Booty!!! Booty's throw wasn't FORWARD from the point where he was standing ... therefore not a forward pass.

And if you think it is right that USC has the right to rule on statistical matters at their own whim, regardless of the stated rules that have applied to all football teams since the invention of the forward pass, you must be a "coach" or more likely an out-of-work PE teacher. So friggin' stupid and ignorant like most "coaches" are.

Mike Williams had five rushes when he played at USC. How many of those were the result of him taking a handoff?

Oh and by the way, YOU DUMB S.O.B. check the rules on downfield blocking in college football versus the NFL.

And Trojanhoya ... get your head out of your crack. A shovel pass is a pass if tossed forward, as of course it most often is and thus a PASS.

You people are freaks.

Patrick and Trojanhoya need a 5 minute time out of the sandbox. Don't give Scott the pleasure of this drivel...

1. I think FDOG had a bad night's sleep.

2. If it looks like a duck, walks like...it's a pass, but who has the time to knitpick...

3. Bigger issues await, like how to eviscerate the lovely IR before it morphs CFB into a sport where the coin toss is no longer its most soporific element.

I'm with FDOG. The play was a run. It's not important in the grand scheme, but for SC to over-rule an obvious run and call it a pass is a bit mystifying. Clearly a run. If DJ drops it, it's a fumble. There's no reason to change the clearly correct call. I don't get why they would do that.
Maybe PC is just tweaking the PAC-10 officials for the lengthy delay and eventual poor call on the Oregon touchdown ruling.

After reading all this silly stuff, I decided to look at my TIVO recording of the game and I was really surprised to see what that play looked like.

IT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE!

Booty throws the ball from inside the 10-yard line ... righthanded, so it's coming from about the 10.5. Jarrett catches the ball on the other side side of the 10-yard line at about the 9.5.

The path of the ball is CLEARLY backward. USC might argue that it is lateral. But in either case, the pass is NOT a "forward pass."

USC is just trying to pad Booty and Jarrett's stats. Having JDB under 200 yards isn't good enough so they had to steal from the "rushing" stats.

How lame is that?

And as much as I hate to do it, I have to agree with this FDOG character. Patrick is a third-rate moron.

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