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Arkansas quarterback Mitch Mustain is still visiting USC but has not officially committed . . . yet.


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I hope he commits soon. He's an unbelievable talent and doesn't carry the criminal baggage of one of the other current quarterbacks.

I want Mustain to be a Trojan and I want him to say he's going to be a Trojan NOW!

Just a great, great talent and exemplary young man of character. He is just what we want as a quarterback representing the Trojan football team.

HB_Edinger Author Profile Page said:

This would be big news. Mustain would be the most coveted quarterback to ever enroll at SC.

EloiPfeiffer Author Profile Page said:

Jimmy, even if that were true, who cares? Palmer & Leinart have the trophies. Whitney Lewis was the most coveted receiver ever to enroll at SC, and what did he do? Block on running plays, that's what.

matthew Author Profile Page said:

Matt Leinart is like OMG best ever. Just sayin'.

SummerN Author Profile Page said:

Mitch Mustain could go to any school he wants to, yet there is a reason he is choosing USC.

He will be the starting quarterback for USC in 2008.

Rothstar Author Profile Page said:

Check this out... from the Hog News website. There was some serious drama going on in Arkansas. Apparently this was written by an overzealous fan and friend of the Nutt family and it eventually made it's way to Mustain. After this email and I'm sure a thousand other more serious reasons, Mustain asked for his walking papers. My only question is if there was smoke, wasn't there at least some fire...? I do know that PC won't be putting up with this kind of drama.


Email from Prewett to Mustain; December 7, 2006***

Hello Mr. Interception King:

Are you having a good morning? I’m sure you are since your precious name is in the paper again. Why in the hell did you come to Arkansas? I’ve been a Hog fan since birth, and a season ticket holder since 1985, and my parents were before that. Who in the hell do you think you are? Do you really think because you just walked onto campus that you need to be the starting QB? Competition scares the shit out of you doesn’t it little boy? This is the SEC for goodness sakes, and by watching you attempting to read defenses in the SEC, it is beyond evident that you were nowhere ready. Your completion to interception ratio was a joke, and you have zero leadership abilities. This isn’t Springdale High School anymore, and you need to take your letter jacket off and realize that. This is the real world. Yes, you did win 8 games as a starter, but you were only starting at that point because Casey Dick was hurt. In winning those 8 games, you need to go back to the film room and see that the main reason those games were won was because of McFadden, Jones, the offensive line, and the play of the defense. You did hand the ball off pretty well. You also need to buy Marcus Monk some lunch for saving you another interception against Auburn since the ball was so underthrown. Every once in a blue moon you would throw a touchdown pass, but usually after 3 interceptions. I’m sure you have the talent to become an outstanding QB on the collegiate level, but I hope that it’s not at Arkansas. You can win the Heisman for all I care, but please not as a Hog. Please transfer. All you’ve been since you walked onto campus is a cancer, and your mother is no exception.

You called Coach Nutt a “dork” in your article. Amazing. You know, I was sitting with a large group of people watching your interview that was aired on Game Day before the Tennessee game, you know, the interview where you had on those glasses that made you look like a fag? I’m sure you remember. Anyhow, everyone in that room started laughing, calling you the dork. Why is it that you came to Arkansas again? Was it so your mommie could be close by to change your diaper, or was it because you thought having your lover Gus on the sideline would make playing in the SEC easier? What a joke! Gus can’t even adjust to the speed of the game in the SEC. Do you think Charlie Weiss at Notre Dame would be putting up with your bull shit? God, do I ever wish you would have gone to Notre Dame. Too bad I’m not Coach Nutt today. If so, I’d be having Tim Cheney sew lace around your jock straps, but that would be after I let you hang out face to face in a private meeting with the offensive and defensive lineman – I think I’d even throw Butu in for the meeting. Did I mention that I want you to transfer? Helen Keller could read defenses in the SEC better than you.

Well, I’ve wasted enough time on you today. I’m sure it’s time for your breast feeding. Did I mention that I want you to transfer. The next time you think you and your girls are bigger than any one program – you better think again. I would love for you to be able to have a lengthy conversation with Chris Simms, former QB with the Texas Longhorns. He arrived on campus his freshman year in a limo thinking he was the next All Everything, was a smart ass to his coaches, was selfish, pouty, and the prime example of what a “team” player is not. His teammates couldn’t stand him, the fans grew to hate him, and he never won a championship. He was finally benched for a QB that had won the Big 12 player of the year award the year before. You see, he walked onto campus thinking the starting position should be handed to him without competition, and it was. He didn’t bring it to practice everyday, he was quoted in newspapers showing his lack of character, he blamed everyone else when HE had a bad game….Sound familiar? He never EARNED the respect of his teammates, coaches, fans, etc…He too was a spoiled brat. He was nicknamed by everyone “The Golden Child” because that’s what HE thought he was. Funny how the smaller, more competitive QB named Major Applewhite, with less credentials, came to lead them to a Big 12 Championship. Funny how that works isn’t it?

Grow up little boy. Oh, by the way, did I mention that I want you to transfer?

Teresa

ESPYSports Author Profile Page said:

What on earth does that email have to do with anything? That is a random person who sent an email to Mustain.

If that's the sole reason you have for having issues with Mustain, then let's bring up the fact that Dirty Sanchez was handcuffed, arrested, and went to jail for raping a girl. What about all the other off the field incidents Dirty Sanchez has had? What about when Dirty Sanchez was videotaped breaking the law, then lied about it to Bill Plaschke in an LA Times interview? Who the hell lies about something that there is video evidence of? Dirty Sanchez, that's who.

Mustain is a damn boy scout compared to Dirty Sanchez. Mustain is a God fearing Christian who has never been arrested and doesn't have the cloud of rape following him around wherever he goes.

So, please, spare us some random email that could be sent by anyone and doesn't have any validity.

Mustain is an amazing talent and won't embarrass USC with any sex crimes like Dirty Sanchez has.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

I thought PC decides who is USC starting QB....

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Espyports is a damn altar boy who is qualified to judge everybody. He has white clean hands-Mr. Perfect or is it because he is a Latin player? Who else in the hell cares to admit the damn prejudice? I am sick and damn tired of hearing all the garbage.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Those of you who are prejudiced against Sanchez because he is a Latin player be man or woman enough and come forward with your damn prejudices.

SummerN Author Profile Page said:

Of course it's Pete Carroll who decides who USC's starting quarterback is...why do you think he approached Mitch Mustain about transferring to USC? It wasn't Mustain who made the first move.

Mitch Mustain will be the starting quarterback for USC in 2008.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

SummerN why in the hell don't you wait until it happens if it happens? Who in the hell are you?

El Capitain - you are obviously a Latino individual and are, perhaps, taking things personally where there is no reason for you to do so.

I don't believe this is a Latino or white issue. Whether Sanchez raped a female student at USC or not, I do not know one way or the other. But the truth is that the aura of rape or sexual assault will follow him around for the rest of his life. That's simply a fact, not an opinion. That's the way American society works. His arrest is routinely brought up in the media whenever his name is mentioned, and was the first thing that Brent Musberger brought up when Sanchez entered the Rose Bowl game at the very end. Fans of other teams have made it clear that they will keep bringing it up if he ever starts for USC, whether it be with signs, chants, or in the case of the Stanford band, a half-time routine.

Again, I am not making a judgment on Sanchez's character one way or another, but realistically everyone knows that his arrest for rape will follow him around for the rest of his life and there is simply no denying that.

I couldn't care less what the race of a quarterback at USC is, just so long as he is good and represents the university with class and dignity. If race were an issue when it came to football, then we would have practically no players, since football is a predominantly black sport.

Having said that, I am thrilled that Mustain may be coming to USC and cannot imagine a scenario where he will not start. He has tremendous talent and by all accounts, is a devout Baptist with high ethical standards. It doesn't matter to me that he's white. It only matters to me that he's the best quarterback we can get -- and he has proven that he is -- and that he represents us with class and dignity. I have no reason to doubt that he will do just that.

This is not an issue of someone being Latino or white and you should not take any criticism for Sanchez in such a way or be offended if a white quarterback is praised. I do not get offended if a white player is insulted and you should not take it personally if a Latino player is not portrayed in the best light.

ESPYSports Author Profile Page said:

ElCapitan needs to calm down and drink some warm milk. So a white QB is coming and he immediately thinks everyone is prejudice toward Dirty Sanchez because he is Mexican! That's not the reason. There is no prejudice based on race, but only on actions and personal behavior. I would be saying the same things about a white QB if he had done the things that Dirty Sanchez has done.

HB_Edinger Author Profile Page said:

Eloi:

I agree with you that high school rankings mean nothing when it comes to college performance, but there is a big difference in the situation between Whitney Lewis and Mitch Mustain.

Lewis was a highly-coveted high school recruit who turned out to be a bust in college. Mustain, however, started eight games as a true freshman at an SEC school and went 8-0. That's eight more wins than either Sanchez or Corp, combined, have had in college. Even Booty never started off his career 8-0 and he had to wait three years to play.

Mustain has had more experience already than his potential competition and has won every game he has started.

So while I tend to agree that high school rankings and performance do not matter, his situation is already very different than how Whitney Lewis' career at SC transpired.

Fight On, Mitch!

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Like I said you are a bunch of hypocritical rednecks. Take your damn warm milk and use it for your enema to flush your damn colon out, OK?
If I need milk iknow here in hell to get it so save your BS.
BTW why in hell don't you post his criminal record as you put it you bunch of damn idiots? That excuse is getting old. In fact you usual suspects are getting worse than Miguelito.
It happens that a small group of you decided that Mustain walks on water.

El Capitan - you are out of line. Simply because people believe that a quarterback, who just so happens to be Caucasian, is talented, that is no reason for you to get upset and accuse everyone of being racist toward Latinos and for you to actually throw out a racial slur. "Redneck" is a racial slur and as far as I can tell, you are the only person here who has used a racial slur. That is out of line.

There doesn't have to be a criminal record for someone to have the aura of wrongdoing following them around. I am not passing judgment on Sanchez, either positively or negatively, but the truth is that having been arrested for rape will follow him around the rest of his life. Eric Wright was also arrested for raping a USC student and there were 136 ecstasy tablets found in his room, yet he was never charged with a crime. But the aura of rape will follow him forever.

I do not believe Mustain walks on water, but I think he is tremendously talented. Since I think that about a white quarterback, you believe that makes someone racist? That is a desperate grasp on your part.

You have to ease back and stop believing that anyone who thinks a white football player is better than a Latino is somehow racist.

Do I believe that Mustain will start in 2008? You bet. Do I know other Trojans who feel that same way? Yes, pretty much everyone I have spoken to. Does that make us racists? What a ridiculous question. Booty is better than Sanchez, yet if someone believes that, are they racist?

You have to ease up, because you are embarrassing yourself and are doing nothing to help your cause (whatever it may be) and are just alienating people, while marginalizing yourself.

Once someone brings out the race card, they are finished.

irish4USC Author Profile Page said:

Friends.....I must apologize, I totally missed the part where Sanchez was proven guilty in a court of law, excluding your court that is. So please update me. BTW, the email is not bs. One of you guys posted a web link to a story, which included the email, and the whole story is amazing. Can he (Mustain) really come and play here with all the baggage? Anyway if you can find the link...read it and plan to take a day and a half off work....it really is that long and very through.

USCBUAD92 Author Profile Page said:

Wow, someone's been hitting the cerveza hard. I went through all the posts and I honestly do not see anyone bringing up race other than El Capitan. It's pretty sad when you blame every criticism about someone on their race. It's an easy way out and it's a no-win situation for someone to bring race into an argument.

If someone praises Mustain, that is not to say they feel he is good because of a perceived case of prejudice for Mexicans. If people think Booty is a good player, it does not that mean they have prejudice for Mexicans.

I never even considered race to be a factor when thinking about Mustain, Booty or Corp. Likewise for Leinart or Palmer.

El Capitan, you are not going to make too many friends or people to support your view if you throw around absurd claims of prejudice simply because people view a quarterback, who just so happens to be white, to be superior than a Mexican quarterback. If anything, your approach alienates people and makes them side with Mustain, even if they did not have an opinion about him previously. I didn't have an opinion for Mustain before reading these threads, but seeing as how you apparently represent the Sanchez camp, I am now leaning toward throwing my support to Mustain's camp.

A word of advice -- your approach is alienating and embarrassing and does more harm to your credibility than benefit it. Drop the entire "everyone is out to get the Mexican" routine and learn to contribute in a positive manner.

JJH4USC Author Profile Page said:

“Like I said you are a bunch of hypocritical rednecks. Take your damn warm milk and use it for your enema to flush your damn colon out, OK?”

El Cap...watch the language, it does not enhance the quality of your post...always wanted to say that, but you finally gave me the opportunity.

JJH4USC Author Profile Page said:

Anyhow, how did you guys go from discussing how USC might have 3 unbelievable QB’s that will compete to back-up and replace Booty to some racial banter. I don’t care who the next great USC QB is - Sanchez, Corp or Mustain...I just want to give all of these talented kids a chance to compete, and like I previously said, let the cream rise to the top.

And EC, nobody said that Mustain walked on water, but I wouldn’t dismiss him either. Corp was playing high school football, Sanchez was holding a clip board, and Mustain was leading Arkansas to the SEC Title Game. He might not be the most talented (that we will find out soon enough if he chooses to transfer), but he has the most experience out of the three.

PS - Anyone see that big USC B-Ball win in the Desert last night?

HB_Edinger Author Profile Page said:

irish4USC, here's the official response regarding that email you posted by that crazy woman:

Arkansas coach revokes sideline pass for critical e-mail

FAYETTEVILLE, Ark. -- Arkansas Razorbacks football coach Houston Nutt revoked the sideline pass of a family friend over a critical e-mail she wrote to freshman quarterback Mitch Mustain, and the e-mail drew a rebuke from Chancellor John A. White, as well.

The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reported in its Thursday editions that the e-mails were written by booster Teresa Prewett, a Little Rock physical therapist who helped assistant coach Danny Nutt rehabilitate after brain surgery in 1998.

The newspaper obtained university documents related to the e-mails, which were sent to a number of people on Dec. 6 and Dec. 7.

One e-mail was sent to Democrat-Gazette sports editor and columnist Wally Hall. The other was sent to Mustain, with a copy to Nutt's wife, Diana. She forwarded the note to a Springdale business with her own note that said parts of the e-mail about the city of Springdale and former Arkansas offensive coordinator Gus Malzahn were "quite funny."

Malzahn was Mustain's high school coach at Springdale before taking a job at Arkansas. He recently quit to become assistant head coach at Tulsa.

Nutt told the newspaper that the e-mail was indeed forwarded by his wife.

"I did acknowledge, I just found out a couple weeks ago she did do that," Nutt said.

In January, the university investigated at the behest of Mustain's mother, Beck Campbell. The newspaper said that Prewett wrote a letter of apology to Mustain, who was released from his scholarship, at his request, so he can seek a transfer. Nutt sent a reprimand to Prewett and White sent a letter to Campbell that condemned Prewett's e-mail.

Prewett also was told not to have any contact with university football players, and the school placed a filter on its computer system to ban her e-mails, the newspaper reported.

BostonTrojan Author Profile Page said:

Wow. I usually just read this without commenting but this chain of posts is so ridiculous. First of all, I know "Dirty Sanchez" is a gross sexual maneuver but its also a racial slur, much more offensive IMO to "redneck". Secondly, TrojanSAEinNYC and ESPYSports must be the biggest pansies I've ever read - are you seriously so hung up on Mustain because he has a clean record and is of the Baptist faith? Last time I checked this is football and just because one player was ACCUSED (thank you Irish for clearing that up for the posters who don't remember how our judicial system works) of rape, and not convicted, doesn't make him an unworthy competitor. Well, just to prove a point, I'm going to accuse Mustain of raping me (giving me the 'Dirty Sanchez' of course) and then we'll have two accused rapists competing to start in 08 and we can ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THEIR FOOTBALL SKILLS.

Mustain being here is great for the simple reason that three qb's competing in 08 will make them all better. From everything I've read about Mustain though, I gotta say I'm not exactly blown away - seems like a total puss to me.

Rich

ps - Gibson had a tough one last night, no?

ESPYSports Author Profile Page said:

I never brought up the fact that he's Baptist.

As for their football skills, Mustain will make Dirty Sanchez his little bitch. Since high school, Mustain has started eight games at an SEC school and won all of them. Since high school, Dirty Sanchez has been handcuffed, arrested, and spent his nights in jail!

Dirty Sanchez will be Mustain's bitch.

Rothstar Author Profile Page said:

http://realhognews.blogspot.com/

Read it for yourself. It's interesting.

ESPY - why are you so crazy for this kid? Most of us are interested but SC is loaded with talent year after year. Mustin's good but calm down. You should probably wait and see like any new player.

Regarding Sanchez, you're opinions are outrageous. The charges were dismissed. What don't you understand about that? It's not fair to a young kid that YOU are continually bringing this BS up again and again. If he was convicted, then ok. Do you hate Ray Ray the same way? With your logic, you'd have to. He was actually guilty of something. Let me ask you this. If your neighbor accused you of stealing something from him and the cops, on his word, arrested you but later found the accusations were false, would it be fair to call you a thief for the rest of your life? No.

I got nothing against Mustin, nothing. I welcome him with a clean slate but let's not trash Sanchez when he hasn't even had his chance. Sanchez is a phenomenal talent as well.

Fight on and go easy...thief! (joking!)

BostonTrojan Author Profile Page said:

Very thoughtful post. Mustain was 52.3% completion, 10 tds/9ints. I'm not saying I don't want him but we're not exactly getting Matt Leinhart back. Anyone who watched 5 minutes of ARK last year knows McFadden was the reason they were so successful. I'm not sure how you're so convinced he will make Sanchez, who has not started yet, his bitch...

Desmo Author Profile Page said:

ESPYSports is essentially a troll, don't take his bait.

SAEinNYC: I'm sorry, but as a WASP, perhaps one of the few WASPs left in LA, El Cap had a point: unfortunately, "God fearing Christian" and "devout Baptists", while not being racial specific, pretty much mean "White People". If you don't beleive that, then i suggest you attend a Karl Rove seminar sometime soon.

ESPYSports Author Profile Page said:

Rothstar - You say Rey was actually guilty of something, but he was also never charged, correct? Eric Wright was never charged, either, right? You can't pick and choose why one person is not charged and say that he's guilty, but somehow another one is not.

It's not so much that I am crazy about Mustain, but his record speaks for itself. His last two years of high school, he went 26-1 and won a state championship. Then there are those who say that what one did in high school has no relevance on a college career. OK, in that scenario, look what he did at Arkansas as a true freshman. Started eight games and won all eight games. Again, that's as a true freshman in the SEC.

If that's what he can do as an 18 year old, imagine the possibilities when he's 20 to 22.

This isn't a wait and see situation, because he's already been seen. He's not exactly a project. He's competed as a true freshman, in front of huge crowds and national TV audiences, and won every game he started. By all accounts, it was a personality conflict with Nutt that got him benched, not lack of talent on the field. What more could a coach want than a quarterback who goes undefeated?

Desmo, can't agree with you on that one. Black folk can also be God fearing Christians and devout Baptists.

No confusion on my part.

trojanq84 Author Profile Page said:

Mark Sanches will be the starter in 08...........and if anyone remebers, PC said of all the QBs SC has had to date (yes including Carson and Matt) Mark may be the best of them all..PC is no guesser, he knows talent when he sees it...sorry all you Mustain fans but PC wanted MS more than he wanted MM...and MS was also Player of the Year and # 1 High School recruit while at Mission Viejo. He is no slouch...........Mustain will ride the pine during the Sanchez era........count on it.......He is for real.........

Actually, PC has never said any such thing. If Sanchez were better than Booty, he would be starting. He did not start and will not start next season, either.

Booty is better than Sanchez, so gets to start, while Sanchez has been on the bench.

Mustain will start in 2008, or else he would not be transferring to USC.

USCBUAD92 Author Profile Page said:

That's what I thought. If Sanchez is so good, then why is he on the bench? Why is he not starting over Booty?

Why are more quarterbacks being brought in?

I have seen Sanchez in practice and was not the least bit impressed by what I saw. Booty is worlds better than Sanchez. Sanchez does not come within a country mile of Booty.

From what I have seen of Mustain, he is consistent and already has more game experience than Sanchez. Having seen both players, albeit Mustain only on TV, I just don't see Sanchez beating Mustain out for the starting position. Just not going to happen.

fanman Author Profile Page said:

There's always drama around SC since PC took over. If it's not one thing, it's another. Maybe someone should start a reality TV show set in Heritage Hall and call it "Desperate Jock Rash."

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Prejudice, prejudice and more prejudice from the usual suspects. I don't care about your damn friendship or approval. If I have to approve your prejudice for the sake of friendship I don't need it. Some of you need stop and think what friendship is or what it stands for.
I know enough about sports where I can objectively decide whether one athlete is better than the other without accounting for prejudice and a funny hypocritical excuse to disguise a criminal record that does NOT exist. If I am the only that plays the racial prejudice card so be it. Your prejudice has been obvious for the last three weeks, post after post by small group of you. I call them rightfully so the usual suspects. You know whom you are. For what is worth if anything I am caucasian just like some of you. What sets me apart according to your "exclusive biological homo classification" is that I have a name that does NOT rhyme with a Smith or a Jones. I even throw the Nixon last name. Then I add my accent so you perfect clones can make fun of. The governor of California is Austrian and the LA mayor is Chicano. Oh I forgot the perfect masses do NOT approve of that, either. The surgeon general is Puertorican, Dr. Carmona. Obviously those ingredients do NOT appeal to your favorite recipe, right hypocrites or should I say supremacist cooks?
Thank you

irish4USC Author Profile Page said:

Ok folks, it's as simple as this....did you see Corp in the state championships?....whoa....this is the anointed one pure and simple....sorry Mark always liked you! ...Notre Dame got boned. Will the real Jimmy Clausen stand up, .....it will never happen.....there is only one and he is not that good!!

I have agree on Corp. Great talent and will jump over Sanchez on the depth chart. Mustain, on the other hand, is clearly being groomed to be the immediate starter after Booty. That boy can play ball!

To all of you who read this blog: just ignore El Cap. He is simply an angry man who can't handle criticism of a fellow Chicano, so hurls out insults at everyone and makes himself look like a fool. Ignore him and it will annoy him even more and he'll just go away. Don't engage idiots who have nothing to say to support their opinions other than baseless accusations of racism.

Have a great weekend, everyone!

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Maratho Moron:
Prove me wrong you damn redneck.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Marathon Moron:
Prove me wrong you damn redneck. Do you know how to read? You are joining the usual suspects or you decided to come out of the closet?

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Marathon Moron:
1. I am NOT Chicano and it does NOT matter what I am. Assumptions do NOT prove a damn in the courts of law. You don't know anything about me so shut your damn mouth and open it when you know what the hell you're talking about.
2. The matter clearly is constant personal and character attack on Sanchez ALL based on ALLEGATIONS. If the player would have been anyother color I would have gladly displayed the same anger as you put it. Do you call that sportsmanship? Hell NO it is NOT.
3. I am man enough to accept if Mustain beats out Sanchez on the football field fair and square NOT on your stupid keyboard or for that matter your usual suspects friends keyboards. Simpler yet: on the football field let the best man wins, OK? Can your brain waves assimilate that?
4. Marathon Moron: can you distinguish between criticisms and personal and character attacks as you eloquently put it?
5. Leave the trash talk to the boxers. In the ring ONLY one WINS, GOT IT, Marathon Moron?

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Marathon Moron:
When a person is singled out and contantly personally and characterly attacked the race barrier is crossed, GOT IT? You need to find the sporstmanship definition, thank you.
I'm ready to talk sports NOT about personal and character attacks. Find a post written by me where I attacked an athlete to promote another one using personal and character attacks? You will NOT, period. According to you and your usual suspects friends that is sportsmanship.

Totally agree that we should all ignore El Capitan. He's clearly a very angry man, who only knows how to throw out insults, slurs and not so creative names. He is a street thug who resents the success of others and is miserable about his own life, so he blames everything on race.

If you try to fight with an idiot, he will bring you down to his level and will always win a contest of idiocy.

Let him keep getting angrier and angrier.

Rothstar Author Profile Page said:

All in all, my favorite thing about Mustain considering SC is that at the end of the day, SC is again loaded for the future at quarterback and running back with sick talent and UCLA sucks. Their coach sucks, their recruiting sucks and while someone like Mustain could easily head over to westwood and start next year, that's not even in his thinking. It's halarious. He, like Corp or any of our running backs, would rather run the risk of never playing then be a Bruin....it must suck to be a Bruin.

My friends and I have a saying that when you're having a bad day, "Well, at least we're not Bruins!"


Rothstar Author Profile Page said:

Espy -

I think we're on the same page. It sounds like your making my point for me. I just ask we lay off Sanchez. He's a good kid, loves being a trojan and definitely not what the accusations accused him of being...

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

TrojanSAEinNYC:
You don't know a damn thing about me and call me a street thug. How in the hell do you know that? Are you another moron like Marathon making assumptions? Read you stupid moron. You want to blog about sports, fine. Let me make it clear to you again because obviously your brain waves did NOT assimilate it. I can handle a comparison between one athlete VS. another one, OK? Just don't use stupid or disguised baseless accusations to compare athlete A against athlete B, OK? That is NOT: SPORTSMANSHIP. The way you and your usual suspects friends attacking the character and personal life against Sanchez to favor Mustain: NO way in hell Jose. Unless you want me to call you tabloid idiots.
Again:
If Mustain beats out Sanchez in the football that is OK by me. BUT don't use funny baseless garbage to make your point(s) and single him out the way you ALL [DID]. Singling out a person without reasons other than personal attacks is a simple definition for prejudice. What is so damn hard to understand about that?

SC'03 Author Profile Page said:

Are you all such rubes that you keep engaging this El Capitan fool? He is a troll and the more you try to reason with him, the more he will embarrass himself by calling all of you names and crying himself silly with baseless accusations of racism.

I have followed these threads, and every time someone has praised Mustain, this person has accused them of racism toward Latinos. Can't you see that he is not an intelligent person without any sense of reason or rationale?

The more you keep trying to reason with him, the more names he will throw out and he will hide behind the race card.

Just ignore this uneducated troll and don't feed his lunacy. He'll go away. He has no supporters here or anywhere, and not one person will support his ridiculous race card attempts. He is not a Trojan, has no affiliation with USC and is simply mad at the world because of race.

Again, don't be rubes. Ignore the troll and he will stop crying. (Of course, I'm sure he's going to come back with another vitriol fueled response to my post, but what can you do...?)

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

SC'03:
Do you know how to read? Do you know what sportsmanship means? Have you read any of my posts attacking Mustain or anyother player? I don't have anything against Mustain. Maybe you can comprehend this: Are you another one of the usual suspects? Do you think is fair to Sanchez or anyother player being constantly being put down by a group of bloggers that are pushing Mustain on everybody's throat at the expense of baseless accusations? Do you know anything about me to call me uneducated? If I call you a name because you accuse of being something you don't have any proof of then I am calling everybody names. That is precisely the point about Sanchez. A lot of baseless accusations and the usual suspects keep putting him down. Then you come with your sanctimonious statement that I am playing the race card everytime someone praises Mustain. One more time SC'03 I don't have anything against Mustain. Is that clear enough? Get ready for this: Do I think Mustain is a good QB? Sincerely yes, I think so. Have I alluded to Mustain's problems in AR? Have I called Mustain names like the AR bloggers do? NO, I have NOT. WHY should I? Did you read any posts when JDB beat Sanchez written by me saying that JDB was named the starter instead of Sanchez? The answer is NO. PC's decision to go with JDB was NOT a simple as many perceive. I gracefully accepted it.
Finally and objectively stated if Mustain transfers to USC and he beats out Sanchez fair and square on the field that is fine with me. Whether you like it or NOT I root for USC faithfully-that is my right and it does NOT matter if I did NOT attend USC. Truthfully I did NOT.
SC'03 I am so uneducated that I read, write and speak(fluently) English and Spanish. I lost count how many physicians have called for my help as a translator. I am so dumb that I have over fifty college credit hours in Chemistry alone. Add 40 more in Biology. SC'03 think about your accusations, assumptions, etc, etc...

ClassOf62Trojan Author Profile Page said:

Concur. It's best to ignore the crazy poster El Capitan. He has already stated that he does not want Mustain to come to USC and only cares about Sanchez because Sanchez is Mexican. This person's language has no place on a board that is read by Trojans and about Trojans, something he has admitted that he is not.

He only cares about a Mexican player because of his race, period. You cannot argue with and expect anything more than insults and derogatory racial terms if you say something that about Sanchez.

As for my view on Mustain, I think he is being recruited to come to USC to start. From everything I have seen of him on the football field, he is more talented than any other recruit I have seen in a long time.

I have also seen Corp in person, including the state championship game, and think he also will jump ahead of Sanchez.

As for Sanchez's past, I must admit that I am troubled by it. Yes, he was not charged, but neither were any of the other Trojan football players who were arrested for rape these past three years. Maualuga was arrested for beating someone up in front of eye witnesses, yet was never charged. The list goes on and on, so I hardly believe that lack of charges proves anyone to be innocent. From everything I have heard about Sanchez, and have also read, he has been in and out of trouble off the field since coming to USC, which is most likely the reason that Mustain is being brought in. I'm sure a certain poster will consider that a racial comment, but I have also mentioned blacks and a Samoan in this argument, too, when it has come to players who were never charged for any crimes they committed.

So to everyone -- don't feed some non-Trojan's rants about race. He is obviously a very angry man and only cares about having a Mexican quarterback start at USC. He just wants to attack Trojans because no one will listen to him. He is no better than ReelBruin and Miguelito. They are all non-Trojans who come on this board to start something with all of you because they are jealous of Trojans and what we have.

Yowzer, this Latino poster is one crazy, crazy dude! Time for him to take some tranquilizers!

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

ClassOf62Trojan, DaveFromCDM:
Do you people know how to read? How many times do I have to explain that I don't have anything against Mustain? You two must be members of the usual suspects. Is it good sportsmanship to continuously attack Sanchez character and personally as well to justify Mustain over Sanchez? That is where ALL my anger is directed. I don't have any problems as far as the athletic accomplishments of both to decide who's the best. The problem is that you two and the rest of the usual suspects pushed the issue in a different way. The fact that he is singled out is prejudice. Using as an excuse a false pretense. That is ALL it is. But you two social experts as well as the rest of the usual suspects have taken the social law into your own hands and decided to lynch Sanchez without any precedent-your own court of law. A couple of other bloggers independently pointed that out as well. Simpler yet and according to your way of thinking(your minds read rape only, period) Sanchez is a rapist even though he was neither charged much less convicted in a court of law except the usual suspects' court. Once more if Mustain beats Sanchez fair and square in a football field fine-I am man enough to accept that. That is sportsmanship without variables and prejudices. I will NOT accept the attacks on baseless accusations. Had any of your accusations or charges had been true followed by any disciplinary action either by a court of law or PC we would NOT be in this predicament. I am an ex-Marine I know what discipline is.
You two have also taken a lot of what I have said out of context.
BTW I have Chicano, Samoan and black friends. How many do you have? Would you go out to a pizza parlor with a Chicano (including Sanchez), a black and a Samoan?
Your vey first sentence is about as ridiculous as it can get. Show a post where I stated that I do NOT want Mustain to come to USC? Where do I state that I only care about Sanchez because he is Mexican? Those accusations are just as bad as calling Sanchez himself a rapist. Do you call that an intelligent interpretation of facts? I call it twisted and misconstrued facts. Finally 62Trojan just because I did NOT attend USC does NOT prevent me from rooting for USC-that is my right. I wonder your view of OJ Simpson after reading your opinion of Sanchez, just a thought... A clear mind might help you and the usual suspects to see things objectively.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

ClassOf62Trojan:
I have NOT attacked ANY Trojan for being a Trojan. I have attacked a few Trojans that have continously targeted Sanchez character and person to favor Mustain over him. Show me a single post where I have attacked a Trojan for being a Trojan. You will NOT. That is beyond ridiculous. I wonder what was your major at USC? Definitely English was NOT because you certainly can't write worth a flip. How many consider: "As for..." a great phrase or way to start a sentence? 62Trojan writes impressively alright. Guess what? I lied. Somebody lied to 62Trojan as well telling him that he is capable of writing good English, please? I forgot you can't read, either... He brags about being college student, UHM?
I will NOT dignify you comparing me with ReelBruin and Miguelito.
Again I will attack anybody that targets unjustly any player regardless of ethnic background. Class of 62 Trojan, wasn't the sixties the worst racial tension period in the history of the US? 62Trojan tell me something, did you learn anything from that period?The way you have expressed yourself I say NO, sad but true...
Thank you

HB_Edinger Author Profile Page said:

Some comments to refute El Capitan's claims that he never stated his opposition to Mustain coming to USC and all that other stuff about how it would be chosen on the field, etc:

"Regarding Mustain I don't understand it, either. Sanchez is going to start after JDB leaves. After that is Aaron Corp." (El Capitan, February 8)

"With that many QB's WHY Mustain? IMHO NOT Mustain" (El Capitan, February 8)

By the way, even though OJ Simpson was not convicted, I do think he was guilty.

How come you didn't address any of the questions regarding the other players who were arrested for raping girls, beating up students, but were never charged? Why do you only care to defend the Latino player who was never charged? Why won't you defend Rey Maualuga who was arrested but never charged? Why won't you defend Eric Wright who was arrested but never charged? Why won't you defend Hershell Dennis who was arrested but never charged? You are very selective in who you defend. Only the Latino player.

You call everyone the "usual suspects" and a "small group," but this allegedly small group keeps getting bigger and bigger, yet you are all alone in the wilderness with your illiterate rants and raves, full of name calling and racial slurs. I do not see anyone having called you one racial slur, yet you keep throwing out the word "redneck" each time someone proves you wrong, which as best as I can see, is every time.

You need to stop living vicariously through some football player who just so happens to be a fellow Latino. I don't get upset if someone criticizes Booty or any other white player. I don't even care about their race; only that they represent USC proudly and with class.

So does that mean more insults coming from you aimed at every single person offering an opinion? Probably. Blaming everything on race is all you have going for you, and no one is buying it.

So sad.

Chill, pal. No one is out to get you for being Mexican. No one cares about your race.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

JimmyCardinalGold:
Yes, I stand corrected and I did voice my opposition and I am man enough to admit it, NO EXCUSES. By the same token did I bash Mustain like the AR bloggers have done? NO. Or for that matter did I bash Mustain to favor Sanchez like the usual suspects have? NO. The other players that their charges were dropped I did NOT say anything because they did NOT face the usual suspects bashing them every other post so that another player be favored.
You have twisted the usual suspects which is a group of at least five NOT everyone like you insist or claim. Let's be consistent and clear shall we(you)? They know who they are. The slurs were directed at the usual suspects group. Like you said he happens to be Latino. WHY are you bashing me for defending a Latino who's being bashed by a so called fellow Trojan? WHY haven't you defended your fellow Trojan Sanchez? Do I sense at least a double standard? I am trying very hard to avoid square one but you are pushing hard and I leave it at that for the time being. There you go again twisting facts. I know enough about sports to accept an athlete better than another one. AS I have pointed out several times I don't have a problem with that. Bashing a player constantly and calling him a rapist every other post I will NOT stand for. That is a very serious allegation. At the same time using a rape charge that was dropped to strongly favor Mustain, NO Sir. That is my position-he happens to be Latino. Let's drop sports for a few seconds and allow me to share a personal military experience. I was in the National Guard. The captain company commander(caucasian) came to my section. One of the members is black and his hair was just a touch longer than regulations allow. The captain whose hair was actually longer
than the black guy said to the black guy in front of me and another sergeant that he should cut his hair shorter or it would cost him some money(a fine). When the captain left I was very angry and I told the sergeant he's making threats and NOT leading by example, what the hell is going on? You better talk to somebody or I will. I ended up talking to the first sergeant who gave me a lot of evasive political kissy-kissy BS. That is me, Mr. JimmyCardinalGold. I am willing to take any polygraph if you don't believe me. The individuals that kept bashing Sanchez with baseless accusations deserve the name calling even if I'm wrong doing so. Mr. JimmyCardinalGold don't twist facts. I accept 4 is bigger than three. By the same token I accept athlete A being better than athlete B based on the field performance. The usual suspects were constantly bashing Sanchez and forcing Mustain on everybody's throat with their baseless accusations to justify their argument. I hope in hell that you don't think that is sportsmanship. I tell you again if Mustain beats Sanchez out in practice in the football field I am man enough to accept that. That is what sports and competition is all about. I will NOT accept what we have been talking about. ARE we clear? Are you cool with that, Sir?
Thank you

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

DaveFromCDM:
You are missing the point, Sir. I am NOT Mexican, yes, I am a Latino. I hope you have read what I have explained at least a dozen times.
Thnx

Gillyking Author Profile Page said:

Damn El Cap...over 50 comments in this thread about MM possibly coming to USC, and it appears that you've basically blown a gasket over this potentially positive opportunity for Troy.

I started mentally listing the posters whom you appear upset with, then realized that it's damn near all of them. I hope that you can try to relax a little so as to be able to enjoy this blog which is supposed to be about the greatness which is USC Trojan football. A topic that makes me very happy and entertains the heck out of me, my kids and most of my friends..

Might I offer that you do as I've done..I've just started ignoring the flamers like Reel-ista and Miguelita and some senorita named JTK or something similar..If these girls get no attention from us, they will eventually just go shopping or start to nag thier own over something stupid, like bruin football or matching powder blue jerseys or leaving thier girlfriends injured and near death in a freeway accident in the dark of the early morning or something as rediculously stupid.

So, El Cap..Compadre, El Rey de Futbol de Los Trojans, el Conquistador, mi amigo de este blog..
por favor, ve te por la sombrita y tenga muchas horas fantasticas con Futbol USC y nuestros amigos aqui.

su amigo,
Gillyking@yahoo.com
(part Armenian & Pennsylvania Dutch with a little redneck thrown in for good measure..Oh, and ex US Nuclear Submarine veteran too.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Glk:
Muchas gracias amigo. To you anglos that means thanks my friend. With ALL due respect I disagree with you. Unfortunately is a group I call the usual suspects and they know who they are. Like i told them I tell you I am man enough to accept athlete A better than athlete B. I will NOT stand for NOR tolerate the constant bashing of a young man with baseless accusations and use those baseless(rape) allegations to support a point. That is NOT sportsmanship NOR right, either.
USC is part of the community and so are the Latinos. It's a fact of life that everybody has to deal with. To that effect the mayor of LA is a Chicano. Even though this is a FB blog one of the best as well as aregular player on the volleball team is Puertorican-a good one-Juan Figueroa. Baby that kid can play VB! If we go further with the ethnic point Mike Garrett the AD is black and also a Heismnan trophy winner-the first one. Some of these bloggers need to be reminded of USC ethnic diversity. Five of the seven USC Heisman trophy winners are black. Anthony Munoz USC former OL is in the NFL HOF and is Chicano. They will surprised when they look at USC HOF and the number of Hispanics that are in it. Like I said those facts have to be dealt with and properly recognized.
Thank you

Gillyking Author Profile Page said:

El Cap..That is my point! When the baseless accusations and character bashing get ignored and then most of the bloggers become non responsive to it, it usually goes away. What I was trying to tell you is to try to find a way to go back to having fun with this blog instead of having so much grief and drama. Some of these losers are only out there to try to pull your strings! They have been succeeding at it. I just ignore them and read the news. Bruce in Anaheim Hills has the right answer, so does another really interesting poster named Tyler. These guys seem just interested in getting good information from this blog, sans the bullshit. I'm in agreement with them and hopefully you will cut your grief and angst way down by joining in.
Gillyking@yahoo.com

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