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Someone within the football program who spoke to Arkansas quarterback Mitch Mustain said, ``I think it's a done deal'' regarding his transferring to USC.


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SummerN Author Profile Page said:

That is wonderful news! Let the Mitch Mustain era at USC begin!

Mitch Mustain will be the starting quarterback at USC in 2008.

Good for USC and good for Mustain. He is, by all accounts, a clean cut boy who has kept himself out of trouble and will surely represent the great ideals of USC with class and dignity. I agree with previous comments, I think he is being brought in as the next starter once Booty is gone. I think that is fairly obvious.

Fight On, Mitch!

ESPYSports Author Profile Page said:

I look forward to seeing Mustain making Sanchez his little bitch. Not only will Mustian start in the 2008 season, Corp will be the second string. Dirty Sanchez is more accustomed to a jail cell anyway than a football field.

This is all such a positive for the USC football program. They get the nation's top quarterback in Mustain, who already has a proven history of success at the college level, having started eight games as a true freshman at an SEC school and going 8-0. You can't do any better than that, can you?

Bye bye, Dirty Sanchez! Hello, Mitch Mustain!

USCBUAD92 Author Profile Page said:

Mustain is a phenomenal talent and could go to any school in the country, yet has chosen to enroll at USC. This is a statement about the future of USC football and I welcome Mustain to the Trojan Family with open arms. Everything I have seen of Mustain, he has blown me away. He is an electrifying player, who can thrown the ball, run with the ball and has had no off the field problems. He is just what we need in a young man at the quarterback position.

I don't understand why anyone would be opposed to his coming to USC, but perhaps race may have something to do with it. If that's the case, football is not for them. Football is hardly a homogeneous sport and race should never be brought into it.

I am extremely excited about having Mustain in the program and know that he will have the best shot of any quarterback to take the Trojans to the promised land.

Best news I've heard all day. Mustain will be an asset to USC and I look forward to seeing him in the Cardinal & Gold. I agree with everyone else, I simply do not see why else he is being brought in other than to start at QB. It would make no sense otherwise. This news has definitely made my evening.

Mustain can flat out play. Best QB I've seen come to USC since Palmer and Leinart. Serious talent who will easily put the competition in their place.

USC1966 Author Profile Page said:

good news. I like it. :o))

ClassOf62Trojan Author Profile Page said:

Amazing news. Mustain will be explosive when he starts in 2008.

Tradi's Author Profile Page said:

ESPYSports= goon. Dirty Sanchez? You're a moron. You have to go after the best players at every position. I welcome Mustain. Though I hope Corp humbles him. His rationale for leaving ARK was suspect. What happens if he sits here? The drama continues...

Welcome to the Mitch Mustain reign at USC... Good times ahead.

SC'03 Author Profile Page said:

Is this is the biggest and most high profile transfer in the history of college football? I cannot think of another evenly remotely high profile transfer taking place before.

There is so much potential with the Mustain transfer and I can't believe that he is going to be a Trojan. If he went 8-0 as a true freshman starting QB, just imagine the possibilities next year. The sky is the limit for Mustain and I am proud that he has decided to become a Trojan.

He seems to be a fine young man, with high values and conducts himself in an exemplary manner. Good for him and good for us.

Aaron Corp is also another player who appears to be a fine young man and has much upside. Great running game and great athleticism.

The Mustain/Corp tandem will provide so much excitement for the next few years, hopefully it is a sign that the negative off the field incidents are behind us. There is no reason for us to be the UCLA of the late 1990s/early 2000s.

As an alumnus of USC, I look forward to having Mitch Mustain as the starting quarterback of the 2008 Trojans. He made the right decision. Fight On!

HB_Edinger Author Profile Page said:

I have to admit that ever since Sanchez was arrested for raping a girl, I have been very cold about him and have not felt comfortable about his ever starting for us. Before a certain person starts accusing me of racism and brings up the fact that Sanchez was never convicted, let me qualify this by stating that I was also equally disappointed by all the other players who were arrested, even though none of them were ever charged. That includes Maualuga, Justice, Dennis, Wright, etc.

So this is not a race issue. It's a personal conduct issue.

Having said that, I am overjoyed by the impending transfer of Mitch Mustain to USC. I think that at the college level, where players are expected to represent a university's alumni and students, Mustain will be a great asset for the Trojans. He does appear to have a good head on his shoulders and as a football player, he has already displayed outstanding talent on the field.

By this time next year, Mustain will still have started more games at the college Division IA level than any other quarterback on the USC roster. He is a proven successful quarterback and I cannot understand why anyone would be critical of his enrollment unless they have their own agenda, which has nothing to do with football or USC.

EloiPfeiffer Author Profile Page said:

Enough already with the coronation of this kid. I also look forward to seeing him in a Trojan uniform (if & when it happens). But not because he may or may not be the starter in 08 or 09 as a number of you skinjobs are asserting. I look forward to the added competition we'll have for starting quarterback. Whoever wins will be better for it. Knowing what I do about MM, AC, and MS, that competition will be welcomed. That's the kind of kid we recruit. The kind of kid who is # 1 in the nation one year and then wants to compete with 3 of the top 10 best QBs in the nation on his OWN TEAM the next year. or The RB who wants to go to SC even though there are already NINE RBs on the squad who could start at 90% of the other D1 schools in the nation. Pete's cookin' up something right round these parts, and these kids just want an invitation to dinner. I love it.

sureshot32 Author Profile Page said:

First of all, ESPY needs to pull her head out of her you-know-what. Everyone of her posts has been vacant and without thought and this is no exception. Why she continues to refer to Mark Sanchez as "Dirty Sanchez" is beyond me. Are you still mad about the time he pulled the "Dirty Sanchez" on you? I think now that time has passed and you have had a chance to cool down, you can forgive him for that singular fecal indescresion. (And no by the way, this is not any kind of reference to his alleged "assault" charge, in which he was never indicted much less convicted of anything)
Secondly, I still don't understand why everone is in a constant state of jubiliation over Mitch Mustain. Yeah, he seems like an okay quarterback, but going 8-0 during the weakest park of Arkansas' schedule (no SC, no LSU, no Florida) isn't the greatest of all triumphs. Especially when you consider that he had D-Mac and Felix Jones in his backfield and defenses were stacked to stop the run game. His TD/Int ratio of 10-9 would get him run out of USC. (look what Booty had to endure and his numbers were off the charts compared to Mustain)
I would much rather see Sanchez slingling the rock to McKnight and Ro-Jo next year ('08 I mean) and have Corp coming off the bench in mop-up duty rather than Mustain starting. Too many quarterbacks is not necessarily a good thing. As the old adage goes, "If you have two (3 in this case) quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks." Mustain may prove to be a good one. Heck, he may even prove to be a great one, but my money is on Sanchez to be the QB of the future for MY USC Trojans.
BTW, ESPY and all you other Sanchez bashers... you do realize he's still on OUR team right? He suits up for the Cardinal and Gold and goes to war for us. Show some respect for the university if not yourselves.

Buddha Author Profile Page said:

GREAT posts Eloi and sureshot. I'm tired of these Sanchez haters. As a Trojan, I will support whoever is in the Cardinal and Gold.
Talking about the '08 season when we haven't even started the '07 season is incredibly stupid and a complete waste of time. Let's get through this season with a championship, and get Pete back for at least a few more years and I don't care whatever else happens because with Pete at the helm it will fall into place.
FIGHT ON!!!

TrojanCNTV Author Profile Page said:

This is darn great news! Mustain has so much experience and has won every award imaginable. Can't believe we're getting him. I can't wait until he starts next year. Good for him for coming to USC and taking the Trojan coaches up on their offer. He is the missing piece we have been looking for in the post-Booty era. Just a remarkable talent who will be a great representative for USC.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

I counted ELEVEN disciples of the supreme usual suspects led by the jimmy boy the preaching cardinal in his gold robe. Today is Sunday so jimmy boy spouted his social expert morale gospel already. Hey you suspects get jimmy the perfect boy an altar. Hey jimmy boy tell me are you wearing a white cone hat along with your robe? What a hypocrite, isn't he? sureshot32 get the usual suspects right-they found another blog to continue bashing Sanchez, what else is new? The dirty eleven do NOT represent the school like they think they do. In fact they are embarrassing. I would bet that the boosters would NOT even think of your two cents garbage, if you're worth that much...

HB_Edinger Author Profile Page said:

It looks like you are the one who cannot read English, ElCapitan. No surprise, there. Nothing I said had to do with race, so you naturally brought race into the equation. Again, no surprise there. If someone praises Mustain, you are now claiming that they are members of the Ku Klux Klan! Not only is that sick, but coming from you, no surprise.

You claims that it would be decided on the football field, and how you had no issues with Mustain, have been proven to be lies based on your own words. You contradicted yourself, so you keep throwing out the race card every opportunity you get, since you have nothing to go on.

Oh, and I am a booster and know many, many other boosters and fellow alumni. They feel the same way I do. They are all ecstatic over Mustain's transfer.

TrojanCNTV Author Profile Page said:

I am also a booster and am thrilled about Mitch Mustain coming to USC. Just ignore that one person who insults people with allegations of racism. As Trojans, he's not worthy of our attention.

Fight On!

El Capitan -- as usual, you are out of line. Now you are now accusing people of being in the KKK? You are mentally ill and any credibility you thought you had, that's gone out the window now.

You have no idea what USC alumni and boosters think, so do not go around claiming you speak for them, either. I am not only a booster, but serve on an athletic dept board, so I think I may know what I'm talking about. You, however, come on this blog and spread your vitriol at everyone who claims that Mustain is good, while accusing them of racism.

Your latest idiotic accusation of Mustain supporters being in the KKK is simply despicable and I cannot imagine anyone supporting your views anymore (not that they ever did in the first place).

If you do not like what people have to say about Mustain, do not read it. Do not respond to it. Your opinion means nothing when it comes to USC. You have nothing to do with USC, you are not a Trojan and based on your most recent disgraceful accusations, you have no credibility.

To everyone else -- while it may be amusing to rile up this sick man, do not feed into his illness. All he is capable of doing is making unfounded accusations of racism and name calling. He is obviously quite ill and you should not lower yourself by engaging a sick mind, who believes that he is being victimized because of his race.

FluorTower Author Profile Page said:

Two things:

1. Amazing news about Mitch Mustain. I told my friends about it, everyone is excited.

2. Ignore people like ElCapitan. He's clearly not playing with a full deck.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Hey JB& usual suspects the dirty eleven:
You can bash and talk trash but you can take it. I did NOT say anything about the KKK or racism-you DID. Your new last name is:
ASSUMPTION
Then again your NORM...
sureshot32 said:MM 10TD's to INT's against nobody competition, WOW?

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Hey JB& usual suspects the dirty eleven:
You can bash and talk trash but you can take it. I did NOT say anything about the KKK or racism-you DID. Your new last name is:
ASSUMPTION
Then again your NORM...
sureshot32 said:MM 10TD's to NINE INT's against nobody competition, WOW?

You really are a piece of work, ElCapitain.

You now say, "I did NOT say anything about the KKK or racism-you DID"

Your previous post on the very same thread: "Hey jimmy boy tell me are you wearing a white cone hat along with your robe?"

Wow, you keep digging yourself a deeper hole. Just quit while you are so far behind. You can't possibly get any lower, or do you live to be humiliated? Do you enjoy Trojans acknowledging you, so to get their attention, you throw out idiotic claims of racism?

Again, just quit while you're behind.

28th Street Author Profile Page said:

Why the heck do you people continue to engage this ElCapitan fool? Obviously he is angry that Mitch Mustain is coming to USC because Mustain is not Latino like Sanchez. He can't stand anyone saying anything positive about Mustain because it takes away from his fellow Latino Sanchez.

This is the most stupid rationale I have ever come across. I have no reason to want a quarterback to start because he is white; I would only want him to start if I know he can win. So why does this person care so much about having a Latino quarterback?

If someone said they wanted a white quarterback, he would accuse them of racism, yet apparently you cannot do the same thing regarding his desire to see a Latino quarterback. How twisted is that?

Just stop engaging this fool. I have yet to read anyone supporting his twisted sense of Latino promotion at the expense of a white player.

He's twisted and has no pull or power at SC. He's not one of us and I doubt he even graduated from any college.

His pro-Latino quarterback stance is twisted and you couldn't get away by having a similar pro-white quarterback stance.

Ignore his idiocy and hypocrisy.

Oh, and while we're at it, I think Mustain coming to USC is great news and I look forward to seeing him in a Trojan uniform. As opposed to the idiot poster, Mustain will actually get to be a Trojan.

JamesW99 Author Profile Page said:

A little word of advice for our friend, ElCapitan:

After going through one thread after another, all I see are your attacks against every person in sight, while not one person is on your side. May I suggest you calm down and stop posting attacks claiming racism? Not one person has agreed with your stance and I doubt you will find one person who will.

I am as impartial as they come in this matter, but I have to say that you are embarrassing yourself and are not doing yourself any good by accusing everyone in sight of being racist because they favor a quarterback who just so happens to be white over a quarterback who happens to be Latino. You are the only person who has ever brought race into the debate.

Just step back and stop posting. Stop accusing everyone of racism. Stop calling everyone names. Stop lumping everyone as part of a conspiracy against you or against Latinos.

Just stop it.

Take a step back from this board for a while and calm down. Do not post for a while and simply calm down. Take some time off from this blog and calm down.

Just calm down.

You know it makes sense.

James

Good grief, Scott, will you just ban this El Capitan person? Every time you post about Mustain, it becomes El Cap VS The World.

OK, we get El Cap is Latino, but does that mean that every damn post has to attack someone who either likes Mustain or does not like Sanchez? How many times has he brought out the race card?

Scott, seriously, have this person banned.

USC1966 Author Profile Page said:

I don't have anything against Sanchez. I think we would have 3 tremendous QB's if MM comes. From what I have read MM has quite a mouth and ego, but we have seen from the Stafon Johnson episode that CC knows how to handle that.

Total win-win situation for USC. Remember when the Dallas Cowboys had Roger Staubach, Danny White and Gary Hogeboom? And the football pundits were like, "Wow..any one of those 3 QB's could start..."

(OK now everyone knows I am old haha)

Petingtong Author Profile Page said:

El Capitan, is the following comment not SLANDEROUS?

"Hey jimmy boy tell me are you wearing a white cone hat along with your robe?"

I have no patience for your slanderous, vitriolic diatribes. Please post intelligently or not at all. Ha!

LL Cool Lee Author Profile Page said:

I am beginning to wonder whether contributors to this blog find more enjoyment from throwing bricks at one another, rather than talkin USC football. Please cut the crap and lets talk SC football baby! Lets talk some dog-gone SC ball!

Now, back to the subject at hand.

I'm hoping Scott's rumors are true. I would love to see Mitch Mustain compete for a starting job. Adding another big name to our roster will only make these kids work that much harder to compete for a starting job, versus resting on their laurels and believing what they read in the newspapers. Hell, may the best man win!

USC1966 -- Vince Young had quite a mouth and ego on him, too, and that seemed to work out just fine. Having said that, I have never heard that Mustain has a big mouth and, in fact, I've heard he's rather humble.

cityoftrees Author Profile Page said:

I have one question. Why was everyone touting Sanchez as the next Heisman winner before he entered SC and now they are throwing him under the bus?

USCBUAD92 Author Profile Page said:

cityoftrees, I have seen Sanchez at practice many times and also the few times he came off the bench. He cannot come within ten miles of Booty. There is a reason why Booty is starting and there is a reason why Booty will continue to start this year. So after two years, I have yet to see anything from Sanchez to impress me and I have seen him on many occasions.

Mustain, on the other hand, started eight games as a true freshman at an SEC school and won all eight games. He is faster than Sanchez, can run with the ball faster and is a more accurate thrower. Even after having to sit out this next season, he will still have more experience as a starter at the college level than Sanchez.

Corp is also a more complete player than Sanchez. I have seen several of his games in person, including the state championship game. He has a running game than is reminiscent of Vince Young. He is a much better athlete than Sanchez and can throw the ball far more accurately. The only downside is that he is rather skinny and needs to put on some weight. Nothing that cannot be done in the next year.

Both Mustain and Corp are taller than Sanchez.

Desmo Author Profile Page said:

Wasn't it, um, after the ASU game, and the OSU game, and most definetely after the UCLA game that folks on this board were demanding that PC throw Booty under the bus. In fact, didn't the Booty hate last from the Nebraska game until Rose Bowl?

And didn't some idiot poster talking about sell T-Shirts that demanded that Sanchez start know.

This is really the most bi-polar fan base in America. Actually, this blog is the most hysterical, bi-polar fan blog in America. Kind of like it's author.

Well, Scott: JimmyCardinalandGold, ElCapitan, TrojanSAE, ESPYsports, and Scott Wolf, you deserve each other. Keep up the hilarity.

28th Street Author Profile Page said:

To cityoftrees:

It's usually not a sign of confidence in a player when a coaching staff start recruiting so many additional quarterbacks, including a well-known starter from another college. That's some serious writing on the wall. For many people, Sanchez's numerous off the field issues, which are rather well known among students, are potentially a stumbling block, which has only been elevated due to the many quarterbacks that have been signed.

Mitch Mustain's recruitment, I am sure, must make Sanchez very nervous and make him wonder why the coaching staff solicited this transfer. How could it not?

Mustain is a proven winner at the college level, so in the eyes of many, that eclipses all the talk that Sanchez is capable of this or capable of that, even though he has shown that he could not even beat out Booty for the starting position.

Geoff Author Profile Page said:

Hey guys, let's relax a bit. Mustain hasn't signed on the dotted line - or whatever it is - and has said that he's making his decision by May. Anything can change. Nevertheless, he'd be a great addition to the team.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Hey usual suspects:
I am caucasian as much as some of you. I can't help my last does NOT rhyme with Jones, Kelly, Bush or Clinton! That is the only difference. Can you accept that? Once more if Mustain beats out MS in the field fine, NOT on the usual suspects keyboards. BTW PC NOR Steve Sarkisian does NOT need your offensive skills BS/political input. The last time I checked he's the HC, ha, ha...
Just to refresh your memories Vince Evans and Rodney Peete are former USC black QB's.
Get this clear:
I have attacked the MANNER in which you illustrious suspects have bashed Sanchez to promote, elevate and crown Mustain. CLEAR ENOUGH? COMPREHEND THAT? CAPITO? COMPRENDE?
Is that Sportsmanship? Is that team loyalty? You suspects stand for principles alright. Should I say hypocrisy? For that matter please watch The Godfather and Serpico and maybe something will sink into your suspects brains.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

If I'm to be banned for speaking out then you suspects should be too for calling Sanchez a rapist every two seconds, right jimmy boy?
Don't you mess with jimmy boy Mr. Ethics the altar perfect boy, Mr. Morally immaculate...

AlwaysBeatND Author Profile Page said:

Gotta remember SC lost verbal commit Samson Szakacsy to ASU. So if he comes, Mustain's basically taking his scholie. Agree with Geoff; no sense in getting carried away over a guy that hasn't signed on the line that's dotted. I think Pete and company are more comfortable with a guy riding the pines for 2 or 3 years before starting, e.g., Leinart & Booty. So that looks like Sanchez starts in 08-09 and Mustain/Corp battle it out from there. I can already hear Pete saying in '08 fall camp..."Mark is just so far ahead of the other guys in terms of preparation and experience with our system." Of course it all has to be proven on the field.

Gillyking Author Profile Page said:

Good points AlwaysbeatND! No sense getting carried away over a guy who's not even signed on the dotted line yet, but if we do land MM..that sure does put a shload of experience on our pine bench. It would also really put the heat on Sanchez and Corp to perform while they are ahead of MM.

I honestly think that Mark Sanchez could step in right now and not lose much at all against JDB. Some of his decisions are somewhat shakey, but what the hell, he's not had the playing time to refine them. He has a better arm, throws from a far higher plane, thus less batted balls on the line of scrimmage..goes downfield far better then JDB has proven in his tenure. Booty has been a good QB for us and will probably come in even better this upcoming season but Sanchez in my humble opinion is only the lack of playing time behind in decision making. Mustain, should he sign.. and Corp will join Sanchez in making a beautiful trio of QB candidates for us in the future though and I'm very happy about that.

Gillyking@yahoo.com

There is nothing other than positives about Mustain coming to USC. He already has real game experience as a starter, while Carroll and Sarkisian have stated that the offense is going to be changed to a scheme that is more compatible to his style of play. That's clearly sending a very strong message as to the direction of the program's quarterback situation.

cityoftrees Author Profile Page said:

not being a student or a person who lives around the LA area, could someone inform me of Sanchez's off the field issues other than the charges by the woman in the summer time?

28th Street Author Profile Page said:

To cityoftrees:

This is probably not the appropriate forum to air specific dirty laundry.

Jay#42 Author Profile Page said:

I don't understand any of these negative comments about MS. I also don't understand these superlative alcolades about MM an eratic QB.

SC'03 Author Profile Page said:

Whatever issues a certain player may have, it becomes moot with Mustain coming in. I do find it interesting that Sarkisian has said that the offensive system is being changed, and will reflect what Mustain's style of play is. That speaks volumes about where Carroll and Sarkisian believe the future of the quarterback position is headed. I do not recall another occasion when either Carroll or Sarkisian directly stated in the media that they would make a specific change in regards to the offensive system and publicly offered the changes.

I don't think length of time in the program has any relevance regarding whether a player will start or not - just look at Matt Cassel. He was Palmer's No. 2 for three years, ahead of Leinart for two, then was dropped to No. 4 after Palmer was gone. Cassel fought every day for three years and was groomed as the next starting QB, only to be benched in favor of a younger player. I think that's what we'll see with Mustain.

From everything I have seen of Sanchez, whether it be in scrimmages, practices or even at games, he has not done much to impress me. To many, I think he is solely the solution because he is the anti-Booty. Whenever something goes wrong, the first thing ignorant football fans want is to replace the QB. Remember, Palmer used to get booed at the Coliseum and there were those who wanted him replaced. This is the same situation.

Sanchez's greatest claim to fame is that he is not Booty, nothing more. Based on ability and skill, Booty is far superior to Sanchez and handedly beat him out for the starting position. Now with Mustain coming in, Sanchez has to wonder why the coaches are doing this, while openly questioning what his role and future is on the squad.

Mustain was actually approached about transferring to SC even before Szakacsy decommitted, so it's not as if he's being brought in to fill Szakacsy scholarship. This was in addition to that scholarship.

Things are getting interesting in the Mustain to USC world...

Cardinal&Golden05 Author Profile Page said:

Who will it be, Lindsey Mustain or Paris Sanchez? Our dirty indulgence for the wife’s US weekly sitting behind the toilet has perverted our minds. As a fan base we have become intoxicated with new talent always wanting more, concerned less with player development and more the second coming. With each year a new crop comes in and our “what have you done for me lately” credo allows us to forget about the last equally dynamic crop. USC is becoming a more vicious beast than young Hollywood. With this current fan base Carson Palmer would have been driven to UNLV for failing to produce as a freshman.
My point is simple, before we crown Mustain and McKnight, I ask that we allow Sanchez and Stafon Johnson + 8 the opportunity to at least compete for our adoration.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

cityofpaper:
Paper comes of trees! you have a computer use it to gather information-that is called research. BY your own admission you are throwing garbage like the usual suspects without knowing what the hell is going-what an uncreditable joker you are...
You are a bigger MORON than they are.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

JamesW99:
Do you know how to read? Do you call sportsmanship the continous calling of a player a rapist? If I call a you a rapist for a personal gain and I don't have any proof you have the right to call me anything you want. Does your intelligence allow you to perceive that Mr. James? The purpose of that bashing is ONLY to lobby, elevate and crown another player from your own school. That is assuming you are a USC fan. It does NOT matter whether Sanchez or Jones or Martin. Sanchez happens to be Chicano and as a Latino I will speak for him. That is my right.
Had another player from a different ethnic background had been bashed to promote another you bet I will speak out. Constant serious accusations had been thrown against Sanchez. Has he been convicted of anything? NO, N, O Mr. James. Where is your so called impartiality? PUT your money where your mouth is. If you are acquitted in a court martial you can get or will be promoted the next day in the US Military. It seems that in your court of public opinion the Sanchez lynching must resume. WOW your impartiality speak volumes. Yeah, it speaks volumes, alright.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Gillyking@yahoo.com:
With ALL due respect WHY can't you bash the Sanchez bashers? W H Y?
You spoke positive of Sanchez, OK. Notice I stated OK. As far as I am concerned it is NOT good enough. When a group of fans continue to lynch Sanchez in the usual suspects court of public opinion to coronate, crown, elevate, promote and lobby another player is that SPORTSMANSHIP? Is that team loyalty? Is that the make-up of a good fan?

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

BinParadiseValley:
R E A D:
Prejudice: simply is defined as singling out.
I have bashed the usual suspects is NOT me against the world as you eloquently put it. Sanchez happens to be Latino, specifically Chicano. I am Latino also, so damn what? It is my right to speak out, I earned the right to speak out. I don't take it for granted like you do.
If I bash you for personal gain and single you out? Isn't that a form of prejudice? In the usual suspects court of public opinion the Sanchez lynching/bashing continues. Is that clear enough for you? Would you like me to spell it for you? Is that SPORTSMANSHIP? Is that team loyalty? GOT IT?

SC'03 Author Profile Page said:

El Capitan, you said, "Had another player from a different ethnic background had been bashed to promote another you bet I will speak out."

Why did you not defend Rey Maualuga above when someone claimed "he actually did commit a crime"?

Maualuga was arrested for assault, but never actually charged with anything, so don't you defend him?

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

I did NOT speak out then because Mauluga was NOT bashed to LOBBY another player like in the Sanchez case. Even it does NOT apply directly to this blog on another blog I posted that I stood up for a black guy when I was in the military. By doing that I gained a few enemies in high spots. Would i do it again? You bet I would.
OK I don't think he should be bashed, either.
I ask you do you think is right for you and the rest of Sanchez bashers to do that to lobby another player? Do you call that SPORTSMANSHIP? Do you call that team loyalty?
Something else WHY don't you elaborate on your mixed message? Elaborate about the Mustain approach by the USC coaches. That is a serious statement.

ClassOf62Trojan Author Profile Page said:

Geez, ElCapitan truly has more enemies than anyone I have ever come across. It's all insults, name calling, and accusations of racism. Is there a scenario where you can have a rational discussion? I surely have never seen it. If Sanchez has someone like you defending him, I'm sure he's hiding under a rock hoping that people don't think you represent him. You do more harm for Sanchez's cause than help it.

28th Street Author Profile Page said:

Cardinal&Golden05 - it's not Paris Sanchez. It's PEREZ SANCHEZ!

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

ClassOf62Trojan:
Assuming you are a USC graduate what was your major? Selective reading? BTW I forgot you are a member of the usual suspects Sanchez bashing club. You are so rationaled and so intelligent that ALL of think this. According to your Sportsmanship and team loyalty it is OK to call continuosly a player a rapist for the personal gain of lobbying another player. 62Trojan-Mr. Rational what is so intelligent about that? You and the rest of the usual suspects continue your court of public opinion to lynch Sanchez. 62Trojan your BS is full of hot air. IF you so damn rationaled and intelligent WHY continue to bash Sanchez when you don't have zilch to hang him in your court of public opinion? So lay off of your BS and excuses of suspect conduct like your frined MR. Morale jimmyboy claims. IS that clear enough for you Einstein?

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

ClassOf62Trojan:
Assuming you are a USC graduate what was your major? Selective reading? BTW I forgot you are a member of the usual suspects Sanchez bashing club. You are so rationaled and so intelligent that ALL of think this. According to your Sportsmanship and team loyalty it is OK to call continuosly a player a rapist for the personal gain of lobbying another player. 62Trojan-Mr. Rational what is so intelligent about that? You and the rest of the usual suspects continue your court of public opinion to lynch Sanchez. 62Trojan your BS is full of hot air. IF you so damn rationaled and intelligent WHY continue to bash Sanchez when you don't have zilch to hang him in your court of public opinion? So lay off of your BS and excuses of suspect conduct like your friend MR. Morale jimmyboy claims. IS that clear enough for you Einstein?

Seriously, pal, calm down and stop this insanity. Your routine has gotten old and you are a laughingstock. You have been contradicted, exposed, your own words have been used against you, etc., etc.

If anyone had no opinion on the Mustain vs Sanchez debate before, thanks to you, they will now side with Mustain. How could they side with Sanchez if he is represented by the lunatic fringe, full of name calling and unfounded accusations of racism?

Stop it, you've become a joke.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Dave from hell:
You are as big of a hypocrite as your usual suspects clan boss jimmyboy. You want a FREE pass for your UNsportsmanlike/unloyal BS conduct of lobbying a player by trashing another one-Sanchez by calling him a rapist deliberately. That is a serious allegation but to you, jimmyboy, etc. it is a big joke. Please save your garbage.

Jay#42 Author Profile Page said:

Cardinal&Golden05:
The best post on the subject and written so eloquently

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Jay#42:
You few Sanchez backers WHY can't you come out of the closet and bash the usual suspects? Obviously you don't think is fair to Sanchez being called a rapist for the personal gain of lobbying for another player. Your post shows loyalty and sportsmanship which is hell of a lot more than I can say for the usual suspects.
Thank you

Bill Author Profile Page said:

Mustain was tired of playing by the rules, which is why he left Arkansas. He is looking forward to a college life where abusing women, drugs, alcohol, etc is not only tolerated without pusnishment, but is accepted!! Plus, he doesn't need to go to class and can "take" junior college courses to fulfill his requirements.

Cheat On!!

USCBUAD92 Author Profile Page said:

Mustain's coming to USC and most everyone is happy about such a great talent. Yet someone is upset because he's going to overtake another quarterback who just so happens to be Latino. Yes, that makes so much sense. (rolls eyes...)

This same person gets upset because people bring up the fact that the Latino quarterback was arrested for raping a student, which as far as I can tell, is public record. Are people no longer allowed to bring up something that has been brought up by the media simply because someone is Latino?

Get a life of your own. Stop living for someone else simply because they are a fellow Latino. You say that it doesn't matter what people say on a blog, then you beg people to come help you out because you are a helpless Latino.

This is ridiculous.

Gillyking Author Profile Page said:

El Cap...you asked... "Gillyking@yahoo.com:
With ALL due respect WHY can't you bash the Sanchez bashers? W H Y?
You spoke positive of Sanchez, OK. Notice I stated OK. As far as I am concerned it is NOT good enough."

Well basically because I'm not here to bash anyone! Especially regarding college football and my passion for the success of my Trojans. I just see it as when and if Mark Sanchez gets his chance, and succeeds, everyone of the posters on this blogspot who truly want the Trojans to succeed, will be supportive and cheer him on. Regardless of his legal ramifications/racial background/or his academics etc. I must assume that if you root for the Trojans then you really shouldn't care who is doing the winning. It's all team success to me. I just enjoy the sport and supporting Troy. That's about it El Cap Also, if I were to get into this bashing stuff, It would no longer be fun to me.

These guys that are pushing your buttons will continue to do so as long as you continue to acknowledge them. Mark Sanchez had a fantastic HS career at Mission Viejo, he was the #1 recruit in the nation when he committed to SC and then he recruited like a mother for the Trojans, helping to gain commitments for nearly a year just as Gallipo has done for the Trojans nearly this entire year. I recall MS at the USA All Star game in Texas in his year there, hangin with and wheelin n dealin with a number of guys that ended up coming here. He was the darling of the recruiting class at the time and now he's just waiting his turn just as JDB did when he committed. It's all just a cycle, MS is in it, MM will be in it when and if he gets here, and Trojan football goes on. In the end, it wont be race or police records that determine who will be the starting QB here, it will all happen on the practice field and in the locker room. Those reasons are some of why I spoke positively about MS, also, because he's a damn good prospect and deserves respect for his skills and achievements as a football player who has a golden opportunity to play big for SC. As far as the recruitment of MM...well JDB is just one hit away from a season ending back injury, it's good to have a strong reserve force on that pine bench. Similarly, I wish that we had stronger reserves available for the O line too.

Gillyking@yahoo.com

I also found it odd that Mustain was being brought in, until Sarkisian's comments last week that the offensive system was going to be changed next year and would be the same system that Mustain was used to and excels at.

The writing is clearly on the wall as to why Mustain is being brought in. Is this the first time that either Carroll or Sarkisian have ever publicly commented on changing the offense for a future season, with the two biggest recipients of the new system being Mustain and Corp?

Mustain didn't get the system he wanted at Arkansas, yet Sarkisian has now gone on the record as saying that the USC offense will be identical to the system that Mustain wanted and best serves his skills.

Now if that is not a clear statement regarding Mustain's future as the starting quarterback for USC in 2008, what is it?

Turnstiles Author Profile Page said:

Good points by all about Sarkisian's statements re: changing the offense. If he's changing the system and it appears to be one that complements Mustain's talents and style of play, then it's obvious that Mustain will be the starter once Booty is gone. I have no problem with that and wish him well. I think Mustain will represent the Cardinal & Gold incredibly well.

TrojanCNTV Author Profile Page said:

When Mustain starts as the USC Trojans quarterback in a year, I expect great things. Corp will make a great 2nd string, too.

28th Street Author Profile Page said:

I think Sanchez put himself in this situation. He has no one to blame but himself. So you cannot blame the coaches or other quarterbacks for coming in.

By seeing all these quarterbacks being recruited and another highly touted and decorated one solicited to transfer to USC, he knows the reasons.

No one can blame Mustain for coming to USC, especially given the assurances he has been given, including an overhaul of the offense.

Mustain is a known winner and starter already at the college level. As far as I know, he has the best record as a true freshman starting quarterback in the history of Division 1A football. How can anyone knock that?

Yeah, it's pretty safe to say Mustain will start in the 2008 season.

FluorTower Author Profile Page said:

Check this page from this week (or click on the FluorTower link below):

http://kegeratornation.com/?p=529

Go down to the part about Brynne Cameron and Rudy Carpenter. The last line is hilarious!

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Glk:
Keep your shinny armour and your hypocrite friends. I don't need your friendship much less wanting it, thank you...

28th Strret:
You are an idiot- Mark Sanchez was NOT convicted of anything NOR in any court except by your jurors of stupidity.
Finally I don't have anything against Mitch Mustain. Using him to justify the rapist accusation constantly for personal gain it is beyond disgusting. You are some avid fans alright.
Good bye hypocrites

Trojan National Author Profile Page said:

My only question amidst this cacaphony is, El Capitan, are you a mix of white/brown? Because in one post above you said you're Latino, then you say that you're caucasian, then you switch back to Latino. Which is it? I don't care what race you are, but you switching your races back and forth makes me wonder if anything you say can be taken seriously.

Who cares what race our QB is in '08. I don't care if he's white, brown, purple or named Daisuke Matsuzaka. As long as we beat Ohio St. that year and everyone else on our schedule, and kick the crap out of UCLA again. Fight On!

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Trojan National:
Let me educate you:
Simple, there are caucasians in almost every inch of the planet earth. Check anthropology. A caucasian does NOT have to be a Smith or a Jones. Obviously you are NOT as smart as you think. I could have blasted, called you names but in a nice way I have uncovered your ignorance. Don't worry there are a lot of Americans like you that have the same misconception. Brown or Latinos represent an ethnic background or heritage NOT a race. If you don't believe me contact the USC anthropology department ad they will be glad to school you further, you might need it. Anthropology is defined as the history of man.
Spaniards and Italians are caucaisians. Most of my blood is Spanish and there is some Italian in my blood as well. Caucasians are caucasians regardless of the last name or place of birth. Like I said you need to educate yourself NOT embarrassing yourself with your ignorance.
I am a faithful Trojan fan. I do NOT approve of Sanchez' bashing.
Thank you

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

I misspelled caucasian(correct sp.) once.

SC'03 Author Profile Page said:

Fluor Tower, that was hilarious! I am cracking up! I think I'll email that link to my friends.

Thanks.

Ted Author Profile Page said:

Can't we all just get along?

just4sc Author Profile Page said:

yes...very true that Spanish, Iranians,Turks,etc are considered caucasian.

I just wish someone would come out and tell us these so-called rumors about Sanchez that are known by some students.

My gut feel is that Mark's status has gone down with PC.

I'm surprised because-even AFTER the alleged rape charge- I heard Pete saying great things about Mark on the radio. I was surprised because he said nothing about JDB. I thought he was telling us that Mark was going to start by mid season.

So, if Mark's stock has fallen, I'd love to know what happened.

just4sc - actually, Turks are not Caucasian. They are an entirely different race, with their roots in Mongolia. You are correct about the others.

To just4sc:

A lot of PC's comments are rooted in damage control and an attempt to change negative public opinion. If you listen to his comments over the years, he has said similar things after the arrests of other players as well, including Maualuga and Eric Wright, but never about players who avoided trouble, such as Oscar Lua and John David Booty.

It's all about the court of public opinion.

TrojanCNTV Author Profile Page said:

This perfectly displays the main difference between Trojans and non-Trojans. As Trojans, we know we're the best. ElCapitan, as a non-Trojan, plays the part of the victim, hurls out obscenities, and unfounded claims of racism. He thinks everyone is out to get him and all Latinos, even though there is no evidence of it.

Trojans make no excuses and don't feel the need to seek anyone's approval. We're the best and we know it. No need to throw out accusations and we never play victim or underdog.

That's why ElCapitan will always be an outsider who wishes he were a Trojan. He's not one of us and never will be. Too bad. Move on.

trojanq84 Author Profile Page said:

PC selected JDB to start for two main reasons
1. JDB did his time (3 years) behind ML learning the system

2. MS was just a redshirt freshman..........

PC is not dumb. JD was the obvious choice to start untill he loses the spot. Fortunately, he shined and PC kept him as the starter.
Sanchez was heralded as the next Heisman Trophy winner by many before he arrrived at Troy. So what now, he doesnt impress a blogger? who cares?? He still has the tools to start AND the time under JDB to learn the system. (Just as JDB had while ML was the starter)
Also ther is all this talk about all his off the field problems ....outside the rape charge (not conviction)what other problems has he had? lets not sling things around if you cannot verify them .anyone can be accussed of anything without proof.........and please dont use the "not the proper forum for this issue" excuse.if you are going to bring these issuses up , be prepared to confirm them, Its not fair to Mark or anyone else to do that. Remember he is still a college kid.......since when did we become cannibals???

Fight On Trojans

ClassOf62Trojan Author Profile Page said:

trojanq84, while I shy away from bringing personal issues on a public forum, I have to take exception with your assertion that we 'dont use the "not the proper forum for this issue" excuse' here.

I don't know what Sanchez did or did not do, but do we really need to start posting his personal matters on a public forum for the world to see?

If Sanchez has issues, he has issues, and they will more than likely be dealt with. But why make them public for the world to see?

Sanchez has already been embarrassed by being arrested for raping a student and his reputation has been damaged for the rest of his life. So what good would it do if other personal indiscretions are made public on an internet forum that people from other schools can read?

Maybe the information is already out there on the internet, but why go out to deliberately post more information on a boy who has already been embarrassed enough and whose reputation will never fully recover from a past arrest for rape?

But that's just my opinion. I'm sure other people would be more than happy to provide further damaging information about Sanchez.

My advice, why air it on a public internet forum for the world to read?

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

ClassOf62Trojan:
Assuming(Big IF) you graduated from USC what was your major? Show me yopur intelligence. We are past the racial, prejudice, Latino , etc. issues what is/are your point(s)? Your 20 Feb 07/0724 post is senseless, self contradicting and it does NOT prove a thing except your continous Sanchez bashing. You also continue to call him a rapist. You also continue to be an usual suspect vocalist in the court of public opinion old west lyncher-no more no less. You can't NOR will NOT let go that there isn't anything in black and white that Mark Sanchez was convicted. BUT according to your target oriented mind Sanchez is still a rapist. You got a problem, Sir.
Can you distingusih between allegation and conviction? In the US Military if you are NOT convicted of anything you can NOT be held back for promotion. In your mind and the rest of the usual suspects standards and minds that objectivity standard does NOT exist except your LYNCHING standard of public opinion. That is briliant, alright, wow.
If you are such a devout Trojan where is your loyalty? I see a lot of hypocrisy.

Jay#42 Author Profile Page said:

El Captain:
I am not in a closet and I back the USC QB. Remember it was you and I speaking up for JDB when most wanted his head. Today we don't any negative posts on JDB.

MS comes from a total different level of competition out west. JDB knows that now and he learned. Especially, after watching his HS get their pants pulled down by De La Salle when they weren't even ranked. So what somebody thanks this QB is great because the HS is in close proximity to UOA.

I have followed your post for three (3) years. You embody the phrase FIGHT ON! Your stamina in the support of MS is applauded.

It is very difficult for me to fathom that these viscous, unfounded, groundless, speculative, unproven and bias posts are from USC Students or Alumni or from anyone that graduated from public high school except maybe one in Arkansas. Therefore, your posts have only succeeded inflaming some uneducated and/or illiterate people.

These dogmatist posts do nothing but make me appreciate the achievements of Stanford in area diversity. You keep fighting the fight Bro if you want, but you should have realized by now, that these posts are from people that share the same brain.

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

Jay#42
Thank you. BTW and with ALL due respect is El Capitan, no problem. This Is NOT and should NOT be about me fighting the usual suspects. This is about Sanchez being lynched in the usual suspects court of public opinion. The second point that I have been hammering ALL along is where is the sportsmanship and the team loyalty? In the private sector I have seen people getting fired and reassigned so the popular person or my cousin's wife to get that job, etc.
I have followed sports for a while and I have never seen such a mess like this one. A group of so called devout USC Trojans fans unjustly bashing a talented QB for personal gain and at the same time promoting a player who may or may NOT transfer to USC.
Finally I have never bashed a USC player the way ReelBruin, Bill and the famous mouse: Miguelito! NO, I did NOT attend USC. Did I attend college? Yes. Am I prevented from rooting for USC faithfully like I have been doing for a few years? NO. Do I care what the usual suspects think about that? It should NOT be dignified.
Thank you

trojanq84 Author Profile Page said:

Classof62Trojan, sorry for the misunderstanding. I did not mean that anyone should post personal stuff on MS. What i really meant was that I was upset that people were posting comments about MS having "several" off the field problems without any confirmation or verified alleged acts. That is so unfair to Mark. You cannot make blanket comments like that and just assume they are facts. so, to just make comments like that and hide behind the "not the proper forum" curtain just so not to give specifics is careless at best , cowardly at worst. If this is not the proper forum, then dont even bring things like that up....dont cast vague assertions and then walk away leaving people beliving things unproven as facts... My belief is that there are no other incidents and the people saying that are just fanning a fire that should not exist.....

Door Prize Author Profile Page said:

trojanq84:
Do you like basset hounds? I love them. They have the second best nose among dogs.
My point is that you are a basset hound smelling the same bones I have been smelling. With ALL due respect. Do you get the analogy meaning?
I hope you have read my post. I clearly stated that 62Trojan refuses to distinguish and accept between conviction and allegation.
Thank you

the captain...you're a sicko...get a life, go somewhere else and screw up someone elses blog. Your tired me me me crap is over. No one give's a darn about your issues or concerns because you sit in your hacienda and make up drama to make your day playing reality games on your computer all day. Take your revered degree in chem and go make yourself a special cocktail...one that will make you forget how to login to this blog...

goliathtrojan

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