How About Pistols At Dawn?
If it's dual week, there must be a controversy.
UCLA lodged a protest with the Pac-10 Tuesday demanding that USC replace the 3,000-meter men's race with the 5,000-meter race for Saturday’s track meet between the crosstown rivals.
It's generally accepted that schools run the 3,000 meters, as Stanford-Cal and Washington-Washington State are doing with their dual meets, especially with the time constraints of a televised meet (not to mention the boredom of a longer race).
But the Bruins want the 5,000 because they are worried USC might score a point in the 3,000 while the Trojans have no chance in the 5,000.
This is the third straight year of rancor between the programs, as UCLA voted against allowing a USC runner into the Pac-10 championships who was omitted because of computer error two years ago and last year USC contested the results in the long jump, eventually causing UCLA to find the original handwritten results in a trash can.
According to Pac-10 rules, the 3,000 meters can only be staged with the agreement of both coaches, so it looks like we’re going to see the 5,000.
Wow, that is so sad...
Is their track team going to surround the University with pickets?
Pathetic protest for a pathetic school. They should go speak to the baby bears. THAT'S a school that can protest with the best of 'em.
Damn liberals!
pathetic? ucla has beaten SC in virtually every sport this year. Football, Basketball, and baseball to name a few...
It's not pathetic. If rules say 5,000 both sides agree to 3,000 why would you agree if advantage is 5,000. Reverse, USC does same thing.
What is happening that is more concerning is the lack of cooperation between schools and seemingly bad air rising. Not good for once honorable rivalry based on mutual respect.
It is no different than Whining Pete complaining that LA Trade Tech can't exit the field first at half time!!!
What has happended to this great rivalry? As much as I dislike SC, I have respect for its programs and the feeling should be mutual. The AD's should get together and do what is necessary to stop this pettiness.
Once honorable rivalry? Give me a break! Whatever honor the Bruins might have had after their academic and athletic gloating was lost to me after this year's football game. How easy the UCLA fans forget...
http://ucla-football.aolsportsblog.com/2006/12/06/ucla-fans-are-eye-popping-violent-fools/
The fans are one thing, but shouldn't the administrations conduct themselves at a higher level?
Has JAM ever been to a game at both team's venues, the Rose Bowl and the Coliseum? I know all he did was link a blog, but let's be realistic. At least the vast majority of fans at UCLA football games have the appearance of having attended college, while a higher percentage of a Coliseum crowd appears to be leftover Raider fans who are simply donning new colors.
I make this statement as no reflection on any fan who attended either school but in reference to the fans who lack affiliation. I have attended every UCLA/USC game for the past 24 years and the Coliseum crowds definitely have more unsavory characters in attendance.
So rather than making a claim against all UCLA fans, try prefacing your lame blog post with the fact that yes an unfortunate incident did occur at the Rose Bowl this year, but that you, JAM, nor anyone else outside of the individuals who witnessed the encounter know whether any of the individuals were truly affiliated with either school, as in alumni or students, or even if the supposed USC fan was not the provoker of the entire event that left him with one eye.
Having been to both venues numerous times (although nearly as long as borno), I can only speak of my experiences. Admittedly, they are biased as I am a USC alumus and come decked out in full Trojan regalia come game day (be it at the Rose Bowl or the Coliseum). My experiences at the Rose Bowl are not as pleasant as they would be at the Coliseum given my allegiance but I always expect as much. I do not expect, however, to get my eye poked out regardless of whether I am the "provoker" or not. Is borno suggesting that the victim may have had it coming?
In one breath borno chastises me for making claims about UCLA fans in general. In the next, he speaks of unsavory characters at the Coliseum. Pot. Kettle. Black.
You speak of your experiences. Great. Good job. I'll speak of mine. And in MY experiences, the rivalry has never been honorable. If you'd like an example of an honorable rivalry, look to USC-ND.
USC-UCLA is a hate fest. I prefer it that way. UCLA gives USC little respect and, I suppose, vice versa.
Additionally, I refuse to disclaim my attached links. Readers can draw their own conclusions. If you choose to blame the victim, so be it. That's your own twisted sense of reality.
Here we go again... USC = thugs and criminals while UCLA = saints and angels. Guys give us all a break.
First Borno, I have been going to SC games for years and never ran into any more "unsavory" characters than any other college game (with a possible exception of Cal). So stop dropping your irrelevant and myopic "opinions" about how bad USC is on our blog.
And Bob, well your just an idiot. You have nothing intelligent to contribute so go back under your rock.
I meant Bill not Bob - how easy it is to forget this dorks name...
Pathetic is obsession to the extent of trolling around on blogs dedicated to your rival team.
Thanks USCNY and Geoff. For a minute there I thought I was on BruinsNation or something. But then I remembered that I was a handsome, intelligent, and successful individual and would never waste a mouse click on such a blog.
Fight On!
UCLA = Communism.
USC = Capitolism.
Its capitalism but I get the point.
ucla IS state owned...but wouldn't have Hugo Chavez visited campus by now?
Its capitalism but I get the point.
ucla IS state owned...but wouldn't Hugo Chavez have visited campus by now?
I agree with Bruin Joe..administrators should meet. And yes I have seen drunk USC fans do unsavory things and Cal fans as well, but none as worse as UCLA's thuggery at Rose Bowl.
The adminstrations have to communicate to students this behaviour will not be tolerated and respect must be given to oppossing fans. At 2005 UCLA game they were loud Bruin fans behind me but no one attacked them.
I hate losing to UCLA, but I have always respected their program, watched their games and even rooted for them, as I do Notre Dame. USC and UCLA are part of one whole. So it is brother playing brother. Produces a lot of emotion but when game is over they should remember they are brothers.
Let's face, it truly, your faraway and you see a Bruin that needs some help. You are going to more likely walk up and say hi ...I am a Trojan, what can I do?
One of my best moments was sitting on a plane for 5 hours talking to John Wooden.
Well said Morantz...I agree with you and have no ill will against UCLA (with the exception of the trolls that feed on dropping garbage on our porch). I guess I never understood all the animosity. On game day - sure talk trash and root for your team, but after say good game and move on.
I respect USC as an academic institution, but I can say without pretense that the worst fans I have ever seen were at the Coliseum.
We should all stop trying to one-up each other on who has worse fans. Both schools have drunken idiots, period. Steve Sample recognized this when he stopped the beer sales, just like UCLA did years before.
Both sides need to get over this point.
I am proposing a new rule:
No more "pots and kettles" references. I must have seen this 10 times today in various forms ("Pot, kettle." "Hi pot, have you met kettle?" "Pot and kettle sitting in a tree."). I mean, why is the pot talking? Why does the kettle care? Why do people always want to compare other sports-blog-internet-posters to kitchenware? Enough. Who's with me?
Aye - but I have to hand it to ReelBruin for sneaking in the worst fans at SC comment before saying we all have to stop this on up business - nice one...
But saying "hypocrite" is so booooooring...
Aye.
FYI - CAL has the most obnoxious fans in the Pac 10!