Its not INT's that worry me about JDB its the passes batted down.. now if you said he didn't have any batted down in 400 attempts I'd be really stoked

Booty certainly looks like he has full grasp of the offense. The missed passes he had last night seemed to occur largely because his receivers and TEs weren't on the same page. He would audible to curl routes and they would still run go routes. Then the ball would hit them in the back. That stuff will work itself out as they get more playing time together.

He was as accurate as any QB I've seen at USC in the scrimmage - throwing darts all over the field - and yes that includes Matt. The first completion to Havili last night was an absolute laser.

I was also impressed with JDB, and Chauncy looked sharp too...hope whatever injury he suffered is minor and not nagging. Even though he was poo-poo'd a little, Mike McDonald didin't look half bad. But I have to take my hat off to my 6-yeat old son Max for being the true talent scout! He said "Dad, who is number 9? He's awesome!" David Ausberry, he'll be the one to shine this year, even about PT.

I guess that stat can be misleading. Sometimes you ca make a bad pass and be fortunate not to have it intercepted.

I noticed on one play JD starred down his wide out on a short pass to the left. He was fortunate not to have that pass intercepted. The DB bobbled it. I could even see the pass coming.

I like Stafon's performance last night. He may be our best healthy back out there believe it or not.

I was actually more impressive with Aaron Corps performance than I was of McDonalds or Mustain. I like Aaron's command and confidence that he displayed. If Sanchez isnt ready to backup Booty in game 1. The only thing keeping Aaron behind McDonald is knowledge of the offense.

"The only thing keeping Aaron behind McDonald is knowledge of the offense."

Sure. That and not wanting to burn a redshirt year for a few garbage time snaps. Absent any kind of big injury to Booty, Corp needs to chill on the sidelines with a clipboard for the season. He'll get his due soon enough. I'm really excited to hear about Stafon and Bradford. I know Johnson's numbers were better, but rambling for 56 yards on 10 carries against the 1st team defense is pretty darn good.

Scott, how was the center/qb exchange? That's the only thing that really worries me going into this season since SC looked like the Keystone Cops when Kalil wasn't lined up at center in recent years. Losing Ryan was probably the most underrated departure of the past 3 or 4 years.

Sureshot32

You're right Scott, it seemed like a lot more than 18,000.

Not to be a naysayer but I'd rather see Booty go 40 passes w/out an interception in games that matter than 400 when he's wearing a no-hit jersey.

I did NOT attend the practice. I know this much about JDB. He likes to throw too much into double coverage. That is why he got at least an INT/game whenever he replaced Leinart. Your comments prove that point. He should have pretty much the command of the system. I agree 100% with Sureshot about Ryan Kalil and Aaron Corp. RK is/was one of those unique players. You hope to develop one like him. It's JDB's team and he has to lead. He does that he wins the Heisman.
Finally Encore read Trojan4Life post and compare his to yours.
Thanks

I'm telling you right now, Mustain shouldn't be worrying about taking Sanchez's job, he should be worrying about Corp taking his as backup next year. Corp is really solid come gametime. Practices not so much, he's Aaron INT.
Mustain on the other hand is just *eh* all the time. Practice and games. He threw a horrible long ball down the sideline in the scrimmage which is pretty indicative of most of his play. Being a good SEC QB is like saying someone's a good American soccer player. It's really not that high a compliment. I'm just saying.

I'm telling you right now, Mustain shouldn't be worrying about taking Sanchez's job, he should be worrying about Corp taking his as backup next year. Corp is really solid come gametime. Practices not so much, he's Aaron INT.
Mustain on the other hand is just *eh* all the time. Practice and games. He threw a horrible long ball down the sideline in the scrimmage which is pretty indicative of most of his play. Being a good SEC QB is like saying someone's a good American soccer player. It's really not that high a compliment. I'm just saying.

I'm telling you right now, Mustain shouldn't be worrying about taking Sanchez's job, he should be worrying about Corp taking his as backup next year. Corp is really solid come gametime. Practices not so much, he's Aaron INT.
Mustain on the other hand is just *eh* all the time. Practice and games. He threw a horrible long ball down the sideline in the scrimmage which is pretty indicative of most of his play. Being a good SEC QB is like saying someone's a good American soccer player. It's really not that high a compliment. I'm just saying.

I'm telling you right now, Mustain shouldn't be worrying about taking Sanchez's job, he should be worrying about Corp taking his as backup next year. Corp is really solid come gametime. Practices not so much, he's Aaron INT.
Mustain on the other hand is just *eh* all the time. Practice and games. He threw a horrible long ball down the sideline in the scrimmage which is pretty indicative of most of his play. Being a good SEC QB is like saying someone's a good American soccer player. It's really not that high a compliment. I'm just saying.

Screw typekey. It's such a glitchy crappy program. You would think there would be something better than this in the f'ing year 2007. I mean c'mon.

baxterbob:

Weren't you already embarrassed by the everyone the last time you posted that Sanchez will start over Mustain? Every bit of evidence showed you were wrong and you shut up and could not reply. Do you want me to post the information refuting what you say once again? Did you enjoy being humiliated last time?

Mustain is worlds better than Sanchez. Everyone who has attended practice has said this and continues to say it. Mustain is consistent, more accurate, faster, experiences, a leader and can read defenses. Sanchez has shown nothing on the field in the past two years. Nothing. Sanchez will transfer in a few months and Mustain will start for USC at quarterback in 2008. Count on it.

I was embarassed but more for the idiots who were writing speculation based upon nothing more than their own thoughts as fact. Since then I've attended practice to see for myself and the scrimmage. From what I've seen, the only thing factual about Mitch Mustain is that there's a lot of hype on this site over nothing really. But, that's just my impression. I could end up being wrong, but I doubt it. Btw, "everyone" who has attended practice has NOT said Mustain is better. Go to some of the other USC boards (not this blog which is essentially "Mitch Mustain is #1 Fan Club") and you will find most believe Mustain has a long way to go to catching up with Sanchez as far as the offense, etc.
But we'll see. We'll talk this time next year, Mrs. Mustain.

DeYoung:
Are a QB's coach? Are you the self appointed usual suspects prophet? Are yopu and JJ4nothing related? Enough of the MM bool$#*t...
If you are such a devout USC fan let the playing dictate the outcome NOT your stupid BS...

My thoughts on the scrimmage:
1. Why post a security guard at a closed gate to make sure no one gets in when its a free scrimmage?
2. Why pay the cost of printing tickets that do not have seat numbers and, like I stated above, is a free scrimmage?
3. Clearly preseason for the band's movement. One guys was clearly late in the scramble on "Tusk." Sound was excellent as always but Dr. Bartner looks like he has lost some weight.
4. Chauncey looks significantly faster. I can't wait to seem him in regular season.
5. Evidently we need to work on staying onside on the kick team. Mauluga is going to kill someone on opponents kick return this year.
6. Fred Davis needs should figure out the hot read by now. On another Davis note, by the time he leaves he may be a left tackle. For a guy that came in as a wideoout, he is huge. Made a nice catch to somewhat make up for the bad reads on his part.
7. Brandon Carswell was very impressive.
8. Stafon looked awesome. Nice "Reggie" cutback.
9. Garrett Green was listed as a sophomore. Is he in fact a redshirt freshman or did he burn a year last year?
10. Why not have Woidneck punt for the second team since he only got one punt?
11. Good to see TrojanEncore is already in mid-season form with his criticism of JDB. He will be the most maligned Heisman winner ever. (Well maybe Gino Toretta but you get the point.)

Door Prize,

I'm not sure I follow you. You said above that JDB got "at least 1 int/game when replacing Matt Leinart". Are you talking about him replacing Matt in blowouts in 2005 (when he would come in cold off the bench)? Or are you talking about the 9 ints he threw in 13 games last year - 2006 (way less than 1 int/game). In either case Booty was so much more comfortable in the pocket yesterday than he was in the 2006 scrimmage that it was like looking at a different QB. He also seems to have worked on his release point - which is much higher this season. IMO we'll see far less batted balls this year and Booty. I don't think Booty will win the Heisman if the running game is as good as it was yesterday - but USC will definitely be in the NC game.

"If you are such a devout USC fan let the playing dictate the outcome NOT your stupid BS..." - DP

Wow DP...you have really matured...that is what I have been saying for months...way to finally come around.

And nice post PH55

Actually, the Wild West board unanimously agree that Mustain is better than Sanchez and will win the starting job next year. Lot of people on that board go to practice and say that, including former team managers. I doubt you have been to practice, though.

baxterbob:

You are a huge liar. You stated that Sanchez's spring scrimmage stats were "stellar," so I looked the stats up and this is what they were:

Mark Sanchez 2007 Spring Football Intrasquad Scrimmage Stats (4/7/07):

11-23, -12 yards rushing, 2 TD, 2 fumbles, 2 INT

Sets a spring record with 4 turnovers

These are the stats from last week's scrimmages:

Mustain: 3-3, 54 yards, 1 TD
Sanchez: 4-8, 29 yards, 1 INT

You said that Mustain scored against the scout team defense, but it was, in fact, the first defense team.

Sanchez is the best when it comes having his throws intercepted, fumbling the ball, overthrowing and underthrowing the ball. So he is, in fact, better than Mustain when it comes to being worse!

Mustain came to USC to start and nothing else. He will start and everyone I have spoken to says that. Sanchez has never developed and is a liability on the field, and I won't even get into his off the field issues. I will stick only to football here. The off the field stuff I will leave to others.

Mustain will start in 2008, period. I have no idea where Sanchez will end up, but if he chooses not to transfer after the spring, he will most likely drop to No. 3 on the depth chart behind both Mustain and Corp.

"3. Clearly preseason for the band's movement. One guys was clearly late in the scramble on "Tusk." Sound was excellent as always but Dr. Bartner looks like he has lost some weight."

How do you think this will affect his ability to burst through the hole and handle contact this season?

I'm kidding. Great wrap up, that pretty much summarizes what I saw as well.

Let's remember that Pete Carroll said to the LA Tmes last week that Sanchez does a lot of "bonehead" things on the field and Steve Sarkisian even stated to the LA Times that Sanchez's injury was actually a good thing, as it would allow him to "reevaluate" things and give him time to get away from football. Hardly a vote of confidence in Sanchez from the coaching staff.

Um no. He actually had a great scrimmage in the one I was talking about and outdid Booty who had a bad one.
Passing

John David Booty 7-13 84 yards, 1 INT
Mark Sanchez 8-16 160 yards, 2 TDs
http://usc.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=659243

Bench Booty NOW!!! Well we would if you had your way.

The way I see it is you're probably some racist s.o.b. who has it in for Sanchez. The kid has done nothing but come in and pay his dues and you're sh*tting all over him before he's even competed for the top spot next year. I figure you're probably some racist bandwagon fan who does nothing for this school. But then again I'm just speculating much like you are. Now please resume cutting out magazine pictures of little Mitch and plastering to your wall/shrine.

Um Rick, Carroll and staff say a lot of things to motivate players. You should have heard what they said about Stafon last year. Guess what? He's the #2 RB this year.

Btw, both Sanchez and Mustain get high marks here under this NFL early draft report. But guess who's the #4 QB draft prospect and who's the #7?

http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:BVHRlXbddeAJ:www.nfldraftnews.com/players/details%3Fpyid%3D57026+usc+spring+scrimmage+stats+sanchez&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=us

The first sign of a desperate person who cannot win an argument is to bring the race card into it. At no point did I ever mention race, you did. I provided stats and you mention race.

I am actually an alumnus of USC and far from a bandwagon fan. I provided stats that proved you wrong, you brought race into the equation.

How sad and desperate.

If the race card is all you have going for your argument, Mustain has nothing to worry about when he is named the starter in a few months.

Once again, the stats:

Mark Sanchez 2007 Spring Football Intrasquad Scrimmage Stats (4/7/07):

11-23, -12 yards rushing, 2 TD, 2 fumbles, 2 INT

Sets a spring record with 4 turnovers

These are the stats from last week's scrimmages:

Mustain: 3-3, 54 yards, 1 TD
Sanchez: 4-8, 29 yards, 1 INT

Last but not least because this is getting a little out of hand (Scott must be loving it), but Rick you completely took Carroll and Sark's comments out of context. I just read them for the first time but you paraphrased them completely incorrectly, I'm guessing intentionally.

Here's the quote:
Sanchez's struggles were borne of frustration, Carroll said.

"He had a couple bonehead plays we would never expect our quarterbacks to make and they rarely do," Carroll said. "I thought it was out of character for him. . . . It's understandable. He's a championship football player. He came here to play and he's ready to play and sometimes it makes him [angry]. He wants to play."

Offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian also has talked to Sanchez about not trying too hard.

"He's an extremely talented kid and he makes a lot of plays but it's that fine line between making that play and then making the decision not to make that throw and tucking the ball," Sarkisian said. "He'll be fine."

Um, a "COUPLE" bonehead plays, not "a lot" as you say. And they both go to great lengths to qualify those comments as him being frustrated right now. Both of them say he's just trying to hard and he'll be fine. That sounds strangely familiar. Oh yea, it's the same things Carroll and Kiffin were saying about Booty when he was backing up Leinart. Food for objective thought. Does that exist on here?

So now you are posting hypothetical NFL draft picks? Sanchez will never start at USC and will probably finish his career at another school, yet you are talking about some random hypothetical NFL draft selections? Carroll and Sarkisian have criticized Sanchez to the media and you say that is a motivational tactic? You do realize everything they said about Sanchez is what has been going around the past 18 months in private among people close to the program? Sanchez is out of his league at the college level, so Mustain has been brought in and is considered to be a "complete quarterback." Sanchez has had plenty of time to show what he is capable of and all he has done is underperform and prove he is out of his league.

I think you are quite selective in what you post. Some more quotes from that interview:

"The time away from competition on the field could be beneficial, Sarkisian said.

Hopefully, it's an opportunity to step away a little bit and watch John David, how he handles situations on and off the field, whether it's the huddle, audibles or even dealing with the media," Sarkisian said. "There's a lot of things he can take a look at."

So you think this is a positive comment by Carroll:

"He had a couple bonehead plays we would never expect our quarterbacks to make and they rarely do..."

But don't let facts get in the way of your argument (if you even have an argument, that is).

Ouestion, Rick and De Young??

What if any was the highest level either of you played football?

LBC_ROB:

What's the highest level of football Charlie Weis played?

Baxter, don't play the race card. But I agree with you that Sanchez has more than a fighting chance to win the job next season. He's got the experience, the cannon, and the swagger to play QB at USC. Like you, I don't understand why everyone is on their knees blowing Mustain. The kid has talent, but has proven nothing yet.

Carroll and Sark see talent in Sanchez and sometimes it takes an injury or some media comments to straighten a player out. Have faith in Sanchez because he has done nothing to deserve all the hate. Sanchez bleeds cardinal and gold, and so do his parents who can be seen at practice. I have no doubt that Sanchez has the edge and will do great starting at USC. Mustain makes a great back-up and if he wins, ten it will be because he competed and won. Fortunately, he's already got a back-up plan in case he fails. Tulsa.

...I am guessing NCAA Football '07 or maybe Madden '08.

Mustain isn't going anywhere, let alone Tulsa. Sanchez will end up at Colorado next year when Mustain is named the starter.

Touche, Rick re: Charlie Weis.

To anyone thinking about it: do not play the race card. There is no place for that here or anywhere else. It takes away from your credibility and turns people against you. Argue on the merits, not something subjective that you cannot prove. Try to conduct yourselves with dignity and intellectual discussion, otherwise you end up looking foolish.

Fight on!

What are you saying? You know as much about football as the Fat Man??

I'll take JJ's answer because that was what I was thinking as well.

It was a rhetorical question I can tell by your posts that you have never looked through a facemask in your life.

Stop giving your uneducated opinion on who you think is better.

Let Coach Carroll decide and support whatever decision that he makes.

LBC_ROB:

Let me guess, you played football at SC, right? So that makes you an expert, right? Based on that, should Petros Papadakis and David Newberry be future head coaches at USC? Does that not rule out Charlie Weis? Does not rule out every newspaper reporter who writes about football, votes in the AP poll, and the Heisman Trophy ballot? Does that not rule out the very person whose blog you are writing on and whose posts you come to read on a daily basis? It does, according to you. Your argument is very flawed and you never addressed what has been said by SC coaches to alumni (whom they work for and answer to), that Sanchez is out of his depth at the college level and has not developed the way they had hoped.

Neither Mustain nor Sanchez (nor Corp) has been named The Man yet, so I don't see the point in either fellating OR sniping endlessly at any of them. It's clear under Pete Carroll's direction that the starting QB next year will have to earn the spot, just like the players at every other position. Making sweeping generalizations about a player's game when he hasn't really been in a position to prove himself is both weak and moronic - and doesn't do anything to help the team.

Yes I did play D1 ball, no it was not at SC. Petros and Newberry forgot more about football in the last hour than you will lean in you entire life.

Let me tell something else. Coaches and OC's do not answer question to the media, beat writes, or AP voters honestly most of the time.

My argument is not flawed at all. I never disputed that Carroll and Sark said what you mentioned. I'm saying that you have to take it with a grain of salt.

My point was that YOU are unqualified to tell everyone else who is better because of what you saw in practice.

So you didn't even go to SC and are telling me what I should think about my alma mater? Well, I can't even begin to tell you what is wrong with that. The SC coaches do answer to the alumni, whom they work for. They have said that Sanchez has not developed the way they had hoped and that has been seen by many. Based on your argument, Charlie Weis knows nothing about football and David Newberry is far more knowledgeable than he is. Based on your argument, Paul Tagliabue, the former commissioner of the NFL, is unqualified to tell anyone anything about football since he never played the game. Based on your argument, every owner of an NFL team should have no opinion on who is a better player since not one of them played football.

SC is a private university and football is there for the entertainment of its alumni and as a PR tool. The coaches answer to the alumni and tell them what's going on. There is an awful lot about Sanchez that alumni know that you most certainly do not. Mustain will start in 2008.

Sounds like you are more of a Norte Dame fan to me! I never said I didn't go to SC, I said I never played for them.

I also stand by what I said about you. I never said Fat Man Weis knew nothing about football. I said that you didn't.

Really, and just what are you basing your opinion that I do not know anything about football? Because I said something you do not agree with?

You never answered one thing I said about all those people I mentioned who never played football. Funny how they all seem to know and work in football and you spend your time on a blog by a sports reporter who never played the game.

Notre Dame fan? Hardly. As I said, I am an alumnus of USC. That means Pete Carroll works for me. So just how come Charlie Weis works as a football coach and he never played? Oh, nevermind, I know you're incapable of answering anything I say. Everything seems to go over your head. You say one thing and then I provide examples refuting you, but you are incapable of refuting me. You are quite an angry man and since you know so very much, why can you not answer anything I say?

Hey Rick, DeYoung and PatrickMSN ... keep it coming. With everything you say, you reveal yourself to have a Johnny-Wad-Holmes man-crush on Moostain. No wonder you make the same weak, illogical "arguments" as America's #1 queer for Moostain: TrojanSAEqueerForMustainNYC. Yeah, keep it up ... and keep outing yourself. Lovin every minute of it you pathetic, little loser.

And who the heck are you and where did you spring from?

Favorite sight of the night:

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Tyler:
I apologize I was referring to the blow out games when he replaced Leinart. I respect your opinion(s). BTW very seldom I have any problems with your points of view. I think if he(JDB) takes USC to the promised land he will win the Heisman, thanks.
JJ4nothing:
Take your maturity and use it to flush your large intestine, do you get the message chango come mierda? OK 1/4 Latino waste?

"SC is a private university and football is there for the entertainment of its alumni and as a PR tool. The coaches answer to the alumni and tell them what's going on."

Actually, Division I athletics are not there for entertainment as you so eloquently put it.

According to the NCAA:
Our purpose is to govern competition in a fair, safe, equitable and sportsmanlike manner, and to integrate intercollegiate athletics into higher education so that the educational experience of the student-athlete is paramount.

Core Values

The Association - through its member institutions, conferences and national office staff - shares a belief in and commitment to:

* The collegiate model of athletics in which students participate as an avocation, balancing their academic, social and athletics experiences.
* The highest levels of integrity and sportsmanship.
* The pursuit of excellence in both academics and athletics.
* The supporting role that intercollegiate athletics plays in the higher education mission and in enhancing the sense of community and strengthening the identity of member institutions.
* An inclusive culture that fosters equitable participation for student-athletes and career opportunities for coaches and administrators from diverse backgrounds.
* Respect for institutional autonomy and philosophical differences.
* Presidential leadership of intercollegiate athletics at the campus, conference and national levels.

It's alums like you who give the rest of us a bad name...

The coaches' answer to Pete Carroll, Pete answers to Mike Garrett, Mike answers to Steven Sample and Michael Jackson, and I am sure that they answer to a board of governors or some other organization. We as alumni can voice our opinion, but the athletic coaches do not work for us. Karl Dorrell, on the other hand, as a state employee, does...sorry, couldn't resist that.

scottware:
Baxter is the third person referring to the prejudice against Latinos on this blog. I posted it first. Tirebiter1 posted flat out that some bloggers here are prejudiced against Latinos. Baxter have stated the same. One person can be wrong and racist as you put it. More than two is a different story don't you think? The prejudice is there and right under your noses. Deal with it in a different way.
I don't have anything against MM NOR anyother player. I have a problem with the trashing and prejudice against Mark Sanchez. The Latinos are there in SC and are part of California history. There isn't any of you that can change that. The men's basketball team is about the ONLY USC sports unit without a Latino on it. I would love to be wrong about that.
Thanks

TO ALL MY FRIENDS HERE:

USING ALL CAPS BECAUSE EYES ARE WEAK AND TIRED

BUT I WANT TO SAY--ISN'T IT OBVIOUS AND FUNNY THAT SO MANY READERS LIKE TO USE ALIASES HERE---I GUESS THEY WANT US TO THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF READERS WHO AGREE WITH THEM.

IT IS SO EASY TO TELL--THEIR WRITING STYLE GIVES THEM AWAY SO, SO EASILY!

Speaking of tools, Rick...

Another USC alum here and an avid supporter of the Trojan football team and athletic department and somehow I didn't get the memo about Sanchez. Pete Carroll does not work for me, he works for USC. Yeah, it's nice to think the alumni point-of-view on all aspects of the alma mater are given some consideration, but I don't get people who feel the need to represent their opinion or 2nd hand information as common knowledge. Get over yourself.

I too didn't know I was going back in forth with Pete Carroll's Boss!!! Sorry Rick you and the Fat man weis know more about football than any of us. Infact I think that you should get a head set during games and have Sark and Pete check with you first before they send in the play.

EC - I love how you preface your post above with the word “maturity” and then say “flush your large intestine...followed by calling me a stupid monkey (by using a Spanish racial slur “chango”)... then telling me to “eat shit” (“como mierda”) and then making a further personal attack and calling me a “1/4 Latino waste”.

YOU continue to ooze maturity on this Blog. I just can’t imagine how with your articulate and insightful posts that you were never accepted as a student to USC’s undergraduate or graduate programs. You make your fellow 1/4 Latino’s proud my your continued ignorant use of the word “chango.” Keep up the great work!

FYI - If you can’t make an intelligent comment (which clearly you sometimes have trouble doing)...sometimes it is better to just leave the keyboard alone and not necessarily type another repetitive, profanity laced tirade (Do you remember Captain when you used to yell at people on here for using profanity... those were the days!).

PS - If you are such a devout USC fan, let the playing dictate the outcome NOT your stupid venom laced BS. Leave it alone. Got to get back to the FOOTBALL posts (instead of responding to personal attacks from ignorant blogges)...my University’s (USC) first football game is almost a week away! EAT THAT payaso!

Fight On!

Sorry EC, that would be “proud ‘by’ your continued ignorant use of the word “chango” and NOT “proud ‘my’ your continued ignorant use...”

I know how you get your kicks cutting and pasting people’s comments and then plugging them into your spell check. Make sure everything else is spelled properly, and if you catch any other typos please let me know because I really appreciate your grammatical critiques.

pend*jo4nothing alias 1/4 waste:
1. hypocrite
2. double standard chango, you use obscene acronyms and have the c*jones to talk about my language>come caca.
3. Pend*jo 1/4 de mi*rda I never applied to USC.
4. Tell me what is 1/4 waste?
5. Do you $#*T ice cream?

New post...same old, tiresome basura. (See how I did that without using a single obscenity...and it is still and obscenity if you do it in Spanish or use @#$%!)

chango4nothing:
The delicate double standard crying little b*tch walks like a changa flaunts like a changa she's a changa...

New post...same old, tiresome basura. (See how I did that without using a single obscenity...and it is still and obscenity if you do it in Spanish or use @#$%!)