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For whatever happened on the field, here's the most important quote of the day from Pete Carroll.
``Mark legitimately threw today and Mark's going to be back full speed in the next couple days,'' Carroll said. ``He's going to enter back in the mix by Monday. If he does all right and handles it, he's positioning himself to be the starter. It's likely it'll be that way.''

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Cheatthesystem Author Profile Page said:

I'm really not sure what to make of this development in the qb situation. While I do believe Sanchez is the best option, if he is injured in the least, I want him to sit. (Think Booty). Perhaps a backup like Mustain, who regardless of ability, has big game experience. (And let's not forget he has two years under his belt--One in the vaunted SEC and one at SC.)

Pete, do the right thing.

Pasotrojan Author Profile Page said:

I disagree for two reasons. Firstly, Pete would not put someone in the situation of starting if he knew they were not physically able to compete. Booty wasn't as up front with his injury during the Stanford game. Secondly, Mustain and Corp have demonstrated that neither is as close to Sanchez as some thought in their ability to handle the offense notwithstanding the histronics of Mr. Wolf about Mustain.

No one would be happy if the offense struggles against Virginia and it becomes a close game in the fourth quarter. Both Corp and Mustain have turned the ball over this summer. It would not be a pretty picture if Virginia pulls an upset with a costly turnover.

sep2010 Author Profile Page said:

I don't really value Mustain's 8 games w/ Arkansas a big deal. He ran an offense he was already running in high school. He thew more interceptions than touchdowns. He only completed 50% of his passes and averaged just barely over 100 passing yards per game. Clearly he wasn't great enough that he lost his starting spot. If he was so great and if all that game experience really matters, then he should've been blowing Corp out of the water. Clearly he hasn't done that either.

DFWTrojan Author Profile Page said:

I think Mark is definitely a bit sharper from the get-go against OSU if he plays UVA. Remember, he only has 3 starts to his name. What concerns me most is that if his knee cap popped so easily, then shouldn't it be highly probably for a recurring injury? But, we can't play scared of injury.

jamie Author Profile Page said:

Mustain did not run the same offense at Arkansas as he did in HS.

You will have to watch Tulsa play to see that offense.

He lost his starting spot because that year because Houston Nutt used both he and DW to get at Gus Malzahn, their HS coach, who was OC at Arkanss that season. Nutt wrongly believed he could win with Dmac and Felix only. Arkansas would have a losing conference record over the remainder of 06 and into 07 after the loss of Mustain, then DW.

So much for the theory that Dmac and Felix were the team.

Houston Nutt, Frank Broyles, and the school chancellor, John White, all three were removed for the systematic harassment of these kids and Malzahn,and the cover up by the coaching staff and the school administration. They were all fired, or allowed to resign, however you want to look at it.

Sounds like you guys have 3 quality qbs, although having watched Sanchez play, I haven't seen that he is any less turnover prone than the other 2. Didn't he have 7 td's to 5 int's last season? That isn't very inspiring to tell you the truth.

Good luck in this season. I hope you guys beat OSU. I am sick of those pretenders being a factor in the BCS.

Cheatthesystem Author Profile Page said:

My point is/was not that Mustain should start over Corp or over Sanchez. It is simply that if Sanchez is in the least bit still injured, the extra two weeks of therapy would be much more beneficial to the team and to Sanchez. I don't see Virginia being very tough, not with their current situation. And even though it is on the road, it is an opener and PC teams are very good on the road and at home in openers.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Jamie.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Don Key would like to quote a Sports Illustrated columnist:

"Mustain was far comfortable transitioning from high school to college than he has been from Arkansas to USC. No high school quarterback had an easier transition into the college game than Mustain did during his freshman season. He arrived in Fayetteville with his high school coach, Gus Malzahn, who was hired as the offensive coordinator along with three of his high school teammates, including receiver Damian Williams, who transfered to USC with him. In terms of his comfort level with his offensive coordinator, Mustain was actually ahead of the upperclassmen dealing with Malzahn for the first time. That couldn't be further from the truth at USC, where even Green, who has played a handful of positions at USC after arriving on campus as a quarterback three years ago, has a better command of the offense than Mustain."

link is

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Don Key would like to quote a Sports Illustrated columnist:

"Mustain was far comfortable transitioning from high school to college than he has been from Arkansas to USC. No high school quarterback had an easier transition into the college game than Mustain did during his freshman season. He arrived in Fayetteville with his high school coach, Gus Malzahn, who was hired as the offensive coordinator along with three of his high school teammates, including receiver Damian Williams, who transfered to USC with him. In terms of his comfort level with his offensive coordinator, Mustain was actually ahead of the upperclassmen dealing with Malzahn for the first time. That couldn't be further from the truth at USC, where even Green, who has played a handful of positions at USC after arriving on campus as a quarterback three years ago, has a better command of the offense than Mustain."

link is

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

link to story http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/arash_markazi/08/22/usc.quarterbacks/index.html

Trojan in Redondo Author Profile Page said:

As a few other people have already pointed out, The Don Key is either Nick Sanchez or Brandon Sanchez, and he's always going on the internet trashing Mustain at every opportunity. That's all he ever does. He is just obsessed with trashing Mustain and promoting his brother on the net. No other player's family does that, so it's so embarrassing to see Sanchez's family member resorting to such levels.

Give it up, bro. You are fooling no one.

Trojan in Redondo Author Profile Page said:

I have also noticed that - it is clearly a member of the Sanchez family. I'm going to raise this when I'm up on campus this afternoon and see what some people in the athletic department think about it.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

You are wrong sae, and so is hyman -- are you broken yet?

The donkey came about after Voodo and other folks started asking for me by name after the song girl pictures. Besides, if I was a sanchez, my name would be El Burro (by the way, why do you feel the need to trash the sanchez' family...do as I say not as I do?)

I'm not thrashing Mustain, he's a fine QB, I just don't see him as "the answer," and I laugh at the adamant arkie fans telling us how he is the next joe montana.

I'm not pushing any QB in particular, I just want the best one...and the best one practicing last week appeared to be Corp.

I'm not going away, so get used to me...I'm like those hardcore podunk arkie fans.

Chitown Trojan Author Profile Page said:

Definitely a member of the Sanchez family. It is so obvious.

TrojanAnnenberg2001 Author Profile Page said:

The complete obsession with Mustain is what gives it away that The Donkey is one of the Sanchez brothers. He never talks about anything else other than dogging Mustain while praising Sanchez. Anyone who says anything positive about Mustain, he attacks. Anyone who says anything negative about Sanchez, he attacks. No doubt this is one of the Sanchez brothers; probably the one who was kicked out of DePauw.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

LOL,

The Donkey thinks Southbay Trojan doesn't know the meaning of the word obvious...graduated jr. high yet?

Think of it as an English class assignment, why is it obvious?

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

the donkey is trying to follow usc marshall logic...so far he is sorely lacking any...so if it's about obsession with mustain then scott wolf must be a member of the sanches family.

wait, wait, a lot of you are obsessed with the sanches family, are you a member of the mustain family?

how does one deduce who is a member of the corp family?

Trojan in Redondo Author Profile Page said:

Nice try by suddenly spelling the Sanchez name incorrectly. Hahaha! Right, that will suddenly fool all of us that you are not a Sanchez. Hahaha! Welcome to the board, brother Sanchez. Keep up the sleazy attacks against Mustain, it's ever so classy.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The donkey wonders if phonetically sanchez sounds any different than sanches...any of the "obvious experts" care to enlighten?

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The donkey wonders which "sleazy attacks" on mustain are being referred?

It thinks TMH is a schoolmate of South Bay, not teaching any deductive logic at Adams?

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Donkey thinks just as it thought, nobody can quote any "sleazy" attacks by The Donkey on any trojan player.

Trojan in Redondo Author Profile Page said:

The donkey is one of the Sanchez brothers who is obsessed with attacking Mustain on the internet at every opportunity, at all hours of the day. Now he's trying to do some damage control by posting on threads unrelated to Mustain, in an attempt to make people think he's not a one trick pony (no pun intended).

Too little, too late.

Chitown Trojan Author Profile Page said:

It's insecurity coming from Sanchez's brother after he has been caught on a public internet site attacking a Trojan player.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Donkey says Whoa!

More board sleuths. So 28th and Edward, where is your proof of "attacking Mustain on the internet" and that the Donkey is Sanchez Brother?

The Donkey thinks edward is attacking a players family, and that 28th street is full of it (no proof or attacks?).

By the way, The Donkey doesn't do damage control. The Donkey doesn't care. The Donkey just likes to challenge idiots posting crap on the boards.

Chitown Trojan Author Profile Page said:

The donkey = Nick/Brandon Sanchez

Trojan in Redondo Author Profile Page said:

It is very classless for one of Mark Sanchez's family members to go around constantly attacking Mitch Mustain on the internet. Why doesn't he just let his brother show what he can do on the field rather than resorting to character assassination on the internet? Sick.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Donkey thnks

Troy in SB = SAE'09 = EdwardSC = 28th Street = Hyman

The Donkey wonders how many screen names do you need to make a point and still fail to make one.

Trojan in Redondo Author Profile Page said:

Guess again, bro.

JamesUSC99 Author Profile Page said:

Yeah, not even close. Very insecure of one of the Sanchez brother to start resorting to these desperate claims after being caught on a public internet site attacking a Trojan player.

Caesar Author Profile Page said:


I am totally the Sanchez brother and I think Garrett Green should start.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Donkey thinks Caesar might be on to something. If we consider second string solely on the merit of yesterday's scrimage, Green starts.

SAE aka Edward aka Mitch's mom, where did the Donkey conduct "sleazy attacks" on Mitch? Where's the pudding? the beef?

You keep talking but don't say anything?

Trojan in Redondo Author Profile Page said:

So now I am Mustain's mother? HA! HA! Wrong gender, wrong part of the country, and probably a few decades younger. Now I know you are one of the Sanchez brothers as you have made it a personal attack against Mustain's family and have managed to prove you are obsessed with him. Thing is, you actually know me quite well. Just think about it. Here's a hint: we even crossed paths this past month. Heck, my name is Edward, so many Edwards do you know? One more thing, I was never in SAE. Pretty desperate claims by you after being caught on a public internet site attacking a Trojan player.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Donkey says

Edward aka the ms from arkie, once again you are writing but not saying anything. Where is the attack on Mustain?

The Donkey also wants to inform you they have drugs for the type of delusions and feelings of persecution you exhibit. As far as the lack of intellect, you got the short end of the stick on that one.

The Donkey will ask one more time where is the attack on Mustain by the Donkey?

Chitown Trojan Author Profile Page said:

Since this has become one of the most annoying threads ever, and like a train wreck, I couldn't take my eyes off of it, I decided to take it upon myself to look into this matter and I have found out the following - "The Donkey/Don Key" is clearly obsessed with Mustain and also someone called Voodoo. He is on the computer 24/7 making sure nothing positive is ever said about either of these two. I'll leave the Voodoo talk aside and here is some creepy evidence of Don Key's obsession with Mustain:

August 7:

The Donkey wants the following succession:

Sanchez > Corp > Barkley

August 7:

Mitch needs to stop the wild throws before concerning himself with catching Mark. The last wild pass intercepted by Harris cost the offense the day.

August 7:

Maybe that was a bit harsh...after all it could have been the earlier interceptions Mitch threw to Crittenden and Pinkard that cost the offense the game....

August 11:

The Donkey wants to see, and predicts the following:

SANCHEZ > CORP > BARKLEY

August 17:

10 TD Passes and 9 Interceptions!

I'm biased against that.

I'll take Aaron Corp!

So there is clearly an anti-Mustain theme going here. The anger towards Voodoo appears to come from some unflattering views that Voodoo has had regarding Sanchez. So it's not looking too good for the Donkey. I have to surmise that there is a very good chance that he is related to Sanchez.

I have no horse in this race but there is clearly a very strong anti-Mustain, pro-Sanchez, viewpoint and he is on the computer 24/7 making sure nothing positive is said about one player and nothing negative is ever said about the other player. It does look to be personal.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Donkey thanks Boston for speaking on behalf of the logic challenged middle school boys or gender hiding posters attacking it.

By the quoted text the argument that the Donkey is pro Corp can be made. Sanchez has been named the starting quarterback, the fall battle has been between Corp and Mustain for 2nd string or starter vs VA...a moot point now.

The Donkey had very high expectation for Mitch and has been dissapointed...not the only one by the way. The Donkey is very pleased with Aaron, he has been modest and harworking since he came to campus and has overdelivered...The Donkey likes that very much. The Donkey believes Aaron will eventually take the reigns from Sanchez (Sanchez > Corp > Barkley).

The Donkey likes to make fun of posters with multiple screen names (who make the same gramatical errors, use the same writing patterns, and same sycophant arguments) who believe we can read through it. The Donkey feels it's entertaining and he and fellow USC grads laugh over these same posters over drinks, lunch, and/or links. These posters are like the "Chuck Norris is so tough jokes..." but they actually believe their claims.

The Donkey also wonders if the multiple screen name posters also think sep2010, DFWTrojan, sureshot, and Sam Gilbert, also get accused of being a Sanchez based on their comments. The Donkey won't even comment on El Capitan, his agenda is very clear and the Donkey feels is best to ignore him.

While this thread might be very annoying, The Donkey has all the time to keep proding the half-wits.

Oh and Vodoo, that goes back to the song girl pictures...he flatters the Donkey.


The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Donkey makes gramatical and spelling errors when posting.

The Donkey also wonders if the multiple screen name posters also accuse sep2010, DFWTrojan, sureshot, and Sam Gilbert of being sanchez family based on their comments.

The Donkey also wants to know where "sleaze" exists in the following posts:

"The Donkey wants the following succession:
Sanchez > Corp > Barkley

Mitch needs to stop the wild throws before concerning himself with catching Mark. The last wild pass intercepted by Harris cost the offense the day.

Maybe that was a bit harsh...after all it could have been the earlier interceptions Mitch threw to Crittenden and Pinkard that cost the offense the game....

10 TD Passes and 9 Interceptions!
I'm biased against that.
I'll take Aaron Corp!"

Maybe the multiple screen name poster needs to look up the definition of sleaze, along with obvious, because all the quoted text above is OPINION (The Donkey is entitled to it) and FACT.

TrojanAnnenberg2001 Author Profile Page said:

Sanchez's stats for last year:

7 TD Passes and 6 Interceptions!

That looks worse than Mustain's stats as a true freshman, even though Sanchez was a third year player.

If one takes out the Notre Dame game, since the 2007 ND team was one of the worst college football teams in the last 25 years of Division I football, Sanchez's stats were:

4 TD Passes and 6 Interceptions!

Not exactly lighting up the world now, was he?

El Capitán Author Profile Page said:

TrojanAnnenberg2001 and company:
Mustain beat ONLY one decent team:
Auburn. Applying your "selective" logic what does that make Mustain? Hardly a Heisman candidate right? Check whom he beat. Also check why after the so called 8-0 fell apart and Houston Nutt benched him in favor of Casey Dick. Something else WHY does a coach all of a sudden benches an 8-0 QB? UHM? I give you a hint: [Interceptions]. Don't come here with your half-A$$ stories to make Mustain the USC QB. Support your half-A$$ caca. USC offensive coaches have already stated that Mark is the QB that gives USC the best winning chances. BTW that has been well reported/documented by the LA media. Furthermore the players themselves have elected Mark as one of the team captains. Again just because MM played in the SEC don't be so naive and take for granted that we don't know what happened with your boy MM. I give you another hint: We ALL have computers also, got it? That BS will NOT fly here. You didn't fool a damn soul. Finally you usual suspects swallow ALL your trash and accept that Mark Sánchez is USC Trojans starting QB:[PERIOD]. End of the story. How do you do?
Thank you

TrojanAnnenberg2001 Author Profile Page said:

Sanchez's stats for last year:

7 TD Passes and 6 Interceptions!

That looks worse than Mustain's stats as a true freshman, even though Sanchez was a third year player.

If one takes out the Notre Dame game, since the 2007 ND team was one of the worst college football teams in the last 25 years of Division I football, Sanchez's stats were:

4 TD Passes and 6 Interceptions!

Not exactly lighting up the world now, was he?

And Sanchez did not beat ONE good team. Not even one. Not a single one.

I doubt Sanchez will be the starter by the end of the year.

El Capitán Author Profile Page said:

TA2001:
WHY did Houston Nutt bench MM after being 8-0? It is a simple question. Do you have a simple answer? You repetitive biased BS will NOT fly, got IT?

TrojanAnnenberg2001 Author Profile Page said:

Sanchez's stats for last year:

7 TD Passes and 6 Interceptions!

That looks worse than Mustain's stats as a true freshman, even though Sanchez was a third year player.

If one takes out the Notre Dame game, since the 2007 ND team was one of the worst college football teams in the last 25 years of Division I football, Sanchez's stats were:

4 TD Passes and 6 Interceptions!

Not exactly lighting up the world now, was he?

And Sanchez did not beat ONE good team. Not even one. Not a single one.

I doubt Sanchez will be the starter by the end of the year.

El Capitán Author Profile Page said:

USC's QB's depth chart:
1. Mark Sánchez
2. Aaron Corp
3. MM
PC's decision per:
http://usc.freedomblogging.com/

TrojanAnnenberg2001 Author Profile Page said:

Sanchez's stats for last year:

7 TD Passes and 6 Interceptions!

That looks worse than Mustain's stats as a true freshman, even though Sanchez was a third year player.

If one takes out the Notre Dame game, since the 2007 ND team was one of the worst college football teams in the last 25 years of Division I football, Sanchez's stats were:

4 TD Passes and 6 Interceptions!

Not exactly lighting up the world now, was he?

And Sanchez did not beat ONE good team. Not even one. Not a single one.

I doubt Sanchez will be the starter by the end of the year.

The Don Key Author Profile Page said:

The Donkey says that if Sanchez is not starting by the end of the year, it will be Aaron Corp.

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