Who are the top players in the area

As part of the 2012 PrepXtra, we will again publish a preseason All-Area football team. Now’s the chance to give us your picks of who should make the list. I will be deciding the actual list this week, so fill out who you think should make the list.

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  • The Pit

    QB: Paul telles (St.Paul)
    RB: Kurt Scoby (St.Paul)
    RB: Tony Botello (Pioneer)
    WR: Mackenzie Duarte (La Serna)
    WR: Zach Ramsey (St. Paul)
    OL: Cristian Garcia, (St. Paul)
    OL:
    OL: Isaiah Osorio (La Serna)
    OL: Carlos Tovar (Santa Fe)
    OL: Cris Cisneros ( La Mirada)
    PK:

    Defense
    DL: Jonathan Gravinni (St.Paul)
    DL: Tyler Luatua (La Mirada)
    DL: Alfred Villanueva (El Rancho)
    LB: Nick Downs(St.Paul)
    LB: Dan Galvez (Santa Fe)
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    DB: Cedrick Franklin (St.Paul)
    DB:
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    SS:
    P:

  • Neutral Fan

    @ The Pit
    No homers should fill out this list. There is at least three names from St. Paul that do not belong on your list. Go ahead and conveniently leave out every player from St. John Bosco, Bishop Amat, and La Habra.

  • Steely Don

    It is my sad duty to report that El Rancho’s ace lineman, Alfred Villanueva, has transferred out of the area. As for why Bosco and Amat players aren’t candidates for this list: they’re not in the Whittier Daily News area…that’s the boundary of this contest for gridiron acclaim.

    I was wondering if, in addition to naming players, we can nominate coaches. If so, I’d like to tab Jack Mahlstede as preseason coach of the year. I know he’s no longer coaching, but after all, he won this honor last year without doing any coaching either. It would make me feel good to see him recognized once again.

  • Just mystified

    Alfred V went to live with his dad on personal reasons. And we should leave it at that. Why bring it up?

  • Steely Don

    @ Just Mystified: I am not “bringing up” anything, only saying that Villanueva cannot be on The Pit’s area best list because he has transferred.

  • Area Fan

    @The Pit….you might want to look at your list again. Didn’t Botello from Pioneer graduate last year? You also left off Dallis Shipp from La Mirada who is easily the best receiver in the area. Koa Kaleopaa from LM also should be listed as a LB especially with the 8 offers he has already received. And Luatua is a TE/LB and not a DL. Where are all your La Habra guys? Don’t you play LM and LH this year? You would think you would know something about your opponents.

  • Neutral Fan

    @Area Fan
    What part of reading The Pit’s list isn’t clear that he’s just a big SP homer? It pains him to have to put the few names from the other schools when he really wants to fill out the whole list with SP players. There is only one SP name on his list that has gotten any offer and he’s not SP breed.

  • SP Homer

    TE/WR DJ Cloy 6’3 225

  • Area Fan

    @ SP Homer……I’ve seen DJ Cloy in action. He is a pretty damn good player but he is no Tyler Luatua.

  • Neutral Fan

    @SP Homer,
    I do like Cloy, nice size and hands, but not much speed. The only St. Paul players on this list should be Scoby, Telles, Franklin, and Garcia.

  • BraveDad

    @ Neutral Fan,

    According to the writers of this publication, Bosco is not an area team so our players cannot be listed. Area teams are considered those from Whittier, SF Springs, Norwalk LA Habra, etc I believe. If Bosco were part of the area Bosco players would certainly occupy many of the slots. With all due respect to the area teams I really cannot think of one that has Boscos size and or speed. There are good teams but they are not D1 caliber (BA aside).

    @ the Pitt,

    On a post dated July 20th you stated that SPs skills players are on par with Boscos. I can see where Scooby would fit in easily at the D1 level the kid (I think hes a kid) is a freekin beast and has all the elements of a 5 star player. We on the other hand use a committee of about four kids at RB. They may not be household names at this time, but anyone who follows D1/Trinity League play will know who they are by mid-Sept. All of them are extremely athletic and play defense as well. So as far as RB there is comparison and right now Id even give SP the edge. As far as QB Telles throws a nice ball with good velocity, but he did not seem able to throw the long ball (perhaps I just missed it). Our young QBs can both throw the long ball and have better footwork. However gets the starting job will inevitably have better numbers than Telles and will win bigger games (simply by virtue of the fact that we play in the Pac5/Trinity League).

    The immediate disparity begins at WR/TE positions. I think Ramsey is a stud, the kid can fly, but he is not on par with A.J. Holman, who before transferring from OLu was ranked the #3 WR in Orange County. As far as TE I saw nobody at SP that could compare with Boscos TE, Lehman. The disparity grows by leaps and bounds when you look at the OL. SP has nobody up front on offense that can compare to Falah, Rangel, etc. Our OL is way bigger and faster (which is a major reason why our committee of RBs will put up outstanding numbers.

    There is also no comparison at the defensive positions. Up front we are way bigger and faster, and way more athletic (way bigger). We did not show you guys last week, but we will be one of the best D1 teams at the 2nd level on D. We were very strong at that spot already and now weve added Childress Leniu to the LB corps yikes! The DBs, led by Wehrly, are fast, can cover, and can bring the plastic.

    As Ive said recently I have lots of respect for SP, but I cannot agree that the programs compare not at this point in time.

  • The Pit

    @Bravedad, u make me life!
    What I said was “The depth on ur(Bosco) skill players alone, Scary”. I never said we matched up. But Sp did compete w/ Bosco, like u said it’s only Passing game but I was proud the way Sp played.

    What do guys feed ur O-Line…

    By the way we have a stud TE…by week 4 you’ll agree.

    Later bro

  • BraveDad

    @ the Pit,

    I could have sworn I read where you said that skills’ players were on par; perhaps it was Swordsman for Life – I know one of the SP faithful wrote something to that effect. I do recall your comment about our depth. Yes, it was only passing game and SP is vastly improved for 2012. The only reason I even had a post game comment, other than to ask you the turnout, was because of the aforementioned/referenced comparison. I felt compelled to point out the overall disparities, knowing what I know about both programs that will be more evident once the pads come on.

    Looking forward to seeing your TE’s numbers, what’s his name?

    As far as OL they eat anything in sight – LOL. Oddly enough the BMI is great on most of them; we have a couple of Samoan kids with BMI issues but when it comes to my Samoan brothers it does not matter what their BMI is because they still have sick footwork and quickness – don’t ask me how that is, it just is.

    Later my SP brother. (Is it Aug 24th yet!!!)

  • Swordsmen

    @ SP Homer:

    Is this the same DJ Cloy who has attended 4 or 5 high schools in a two and a half year span? And do you think Hell stay all year?

  • Football is Great

    RB- Steven Reed (Glenn) 1800 all-purpose Yards. A monster put up huge numbers against tough La Mirada Team, and Mayfair.

    WR- Cyrus Villena (Glenn) 800 Receiving yards, and 500 yards on Kick-Off yards. Both have Highlight tapes on Youtube. Not the best Player at each position but top players.

  • Understanding the topic is greater

    @ Football is Great: It’s nice that you want to mention two of Glenn’s best players, but they are outside the Whittier Daily News circulation area and therefore are not eligible for the adoration of Steve Ramirez. Your area is served by the Long Beach Press-Telegram, which is a rival to the Whittier paper.

    That being said, I look forward to the intense matchup between Glenn and our own Pioneer. This game is always well attended and has serious playoff implications.

  • yup

    yup its the same DJ Cloy, he needs a real support team because he hasn’t been recieving one the last 3 years.

    and i mean anyone around him, not family for sure..

    Go Swordsmen! ! !

  • SP

    DJ is a good kid, just miss directed. His supporters thought or think there is a silver bullet to education and life. A kid can make it anywhere if he or she applies themselves. With family, friends, who will keep encouraging them and placing the time a kid needs from their support unit.

  • lost

    the kid is lost, parents are to fault……….

    SPS…..

  • LM v SP

    Right now, I think La Mirada might have the edge on SP talent wise. LM has five D1 offers and SP only has 1. If LM can stop Scoby LM will win. DC Avina has all the the game film on Asante from Jordan, Carson and even passing against Lakewood and Bosco. He is still on SP’s campus and he has spy’s all over the place. LM will be well “prepared” to stop SP. LM 21-14

  • BraveDad

    @ LM v SP,

    Wow, you must have the intelligence level of a rock. Why would you come on to a HS football blog and say that a coach has spy’s everywhere. If he does, I hope he gets caught. I can tell you this; if there was a “spy” at our campus during practice they would get caught because they would be recognized as an unfamiliar face. Bring you team to Bellflower Blvd not a spy. Never in my life have I witnessed a person dumb enough to publicize that their coach is a CHEAT. I wish we could play LM; then again it would be a total waste of our time. Good luck with your cheating I hope SP whips youre a$$.

  • Tough Times Ahead

    St. Paul will lose a lot of games this year, especially close games, just by the fact there are no unity, family, chemistry, bond, loyalty, and brotherhood. Today, what you have is a lot of individual mind sets at the school. Players, families, coaches, and even administration are looking for what is in it for me. TEAM vs INDIVIDUALS, team will always win.

  • Are You Serious?

    @BraveDad….If you are believing accusations that someone is making on this blog then you must have the intelligence of a rock. Come on now….spys everywhere?

    Personally it sounds like some one is trying to stir some sh** up before the game and you fell right into it. LOL

  • joe smith

    At Brave Dad…

    Are you that stupid.. Do you really think thats a La Mirada fan, player or coach posting that we have spies.. Your a total idiot.. That post was probably from Asante himself.. La Mirada is preparing everyday to get better.. They are focused on one thing and thats to get better everyday…

  • Swordsmen 83

    Amazing how St Paul HS still attracts the most attention in this community. It speaks to the Swordsmen domination of high school football in this area since the mid 60′s. Coach A was simply, the best coach in the CIF /State for decades. His 81-82 CIF Championship team that went 14-0 was the best team to come out of this area in the past 40 years. However, I am so glad to see the curent Swordsmen administration moving forward with Coach Asante. He is going to have SPHS football back on top very soon. He has players in the community as well as many other players from around LA County who want to play for him. Looking forward to the begining of a new chapter for the Swordsmen.

  • Swordsmen 83

    Where is Alfred Villanueva playing now? he is a talent and a good kid. Best wishes to him wherever he plays.

  • St Paul Football

    at La Mirada…

    St Paul will win this game Aug 24 th by at least 21 points vs La Mirada. La Mirada is soft, they arent physical and are a bunch of rich white boys that dont work the way St Paul does. We have and will always dominate La Mirada. Coach Asante is the best thing to happen to St Paul in 25 plus years. He will out coach the La Mirada staff, and St Paul will out tough those primadonas

  • Once A Swordsman

    @St. Paul Football

    You are being nice. We are going to put at least 50 on La Mirada. No way they can stay with us.

    Go Swordsmen!

  • BraveDAd

    @ Joe smith & Are You Serious,

    All I know is some idiot claiming LM affiliation posted a ridiculously stupid comment. In their comment they claim that: 1) LM is using illegal scouting practices; and 2) that they have footage of Bosco. That said, I posted a responding comment. Its not my problem if you morons have people posting dumb comments as representatives of the LM program, nor is it my job to fact check. I am just a follower blogger responding to a stupid comment made by an ill informed football fan. I hope it makes you knuckleheads feel better to convince yourselves that it is not really an LM person posting such comments. And I hope it makes you feel better to slam me for responding. Whether I believe the comment or not IT WAS STUPID and apparently it was made by an LM supporter. Unless you have proof otherwise STFU!

  • The Pit

    Man I can’t wait for 8/24…I hope La Mirada has a Ambulance on Stand by, I guarantee we’re going to smack the S$%t out of them.

    BraveDad is not stupid by any means…he might be a pain in the azz sometimes but he’s very knowledgeable, it scary…don’t piss him off.

    And for u miss inform haters The Swordsmen are meshing well…The chemistry is there. TOOO BADDD!

  • BraveDad

    @ The Pit,

    Just doing my thing brother. If I’m not being a pain in the arse I’m not doing my job! Plus, the wife’s not around so I have to give someone a hard time. LOL!

  • Once a Swordsman…

    So I don’t read this blog for a few days and I come on and find someone else using the moniker I’ve been using since 2006. I’d appreciate it if you, Once A Swordsman, would come up with a different one. Thank-you in advance. BraveDad I was the one who compared SP’s skilled players with the Braves. I still think what I wrote is true. I, also, said we couldn’t compare our lines or depth with SJB’s. Still believe that to be true. So, no disrespect was intended. I wish all the programs in the area, except La Mirada in it’s first game, all the best.

  • NICE TRY!

    @Swordsmen 83,
    Nice try with that last post. Everyone knows St. Paul is size challenged up front, having Alfred V. will definitely help but sorry it’s not going to happen.

  • SP Homer

    LB: Nick Downs(St.Paul)6’2″ 225 4.7 40 All Mission League

  • NICE TRY!

    @SP Homer,
    Go ahead and give us the size of the rest of your front seven. Downs sounds like he has got nice size.

  • front line

    @ nice try

    SP frontline

    Cristian Garcia 6’5″ 305, all mission 1st team, All area 1st team as a Junior, all area preseason

    Mark Millan – 6-2 265
    Junior Millan 6’3″ 260
    Sebastion – 6’1 265 center
    Sevedra 6’0″
    Cloy 6’2″ 205
    Cisco 6’2″ 225

  • Area Fan

    @front line

    Now take 2 inches and 20 pounds off each guy and I think you are closer to reality for SP.

  • high school football fan

    I know you admire Coach A- but he has not been the best coach in the state for decades- check the records- the best coach has been and still is the Concord De La Salle coach Bob La Doucer- give him his due-he isd the winningest coach in California

  • NICE TRY!

    @front line,
    You just made my day, we can’t wait to play against that front line, August 24th is going to be special. I think I am speaking for everyone on your schedule. Passes in the flat all day. If Scoby though CO wasn’t doing it for him wait till he runs behind that line with a tougher schedule. OUCH!

    @Area Fan,
    You know how they do it. More importantly, those guys can’t play.

  • The Pit

    @Nice try

    When you say tougher schedule, I hope ur not including LM, cause that would be funny and you would lose all Credibility here. Scoby played against Upland, Rancho Cucamango,If im not mistaken, u guys got ur azz handed to u by West Covina, and the only game WC lost too was Loyola,and we all know what Upland did to Loyola. SO trust me he’ll be OK…By the way we had a smaller O-Line last yr and the yr before that…and we all know what happened. So don’t come here and flex ur muscle.

    U guys cant even win in ur pathectic Suburban league.

    Go Swordsmen!!!!

  • BraveDad

    @ Once a Swordsman,

    Thanks for clarifying. I do respect your opinion and the fact that you stick to it consistently. As I wrote to the Pit, SP is much improved and should do well if the front can hold up and get the job done on both sides of the ball. As any football person knows games are won and lost in the pit. If the bigs get it done, good things happen.

    With that said, @ Front Line: Sevedra is nowhere near 6′ even if you put 5″ heels on him. He’s a great kid, but he’s 5′ 6″ on his tippy toes. Im 6 tall and I tower over him. The fact that you list him at 6 makes me question the validity of the rest of your list. You never should have gone there bro.

  • braveDad

    @ front line,

    BTW, I do know that one of your lineman (defense) is over 6′ tall and athletic as all heck, Nick Alvarado. He must have been taught well by Coach Casell at the school he was at before SP; what school is that again? LOL! Just busting your chops brother.

  • The Pit

    @BRavedad…All man u done did it now…
    I consider u my Step brother man, but when u mess with my real SP brothers(Frontline.) It’s on, so peace stay off my back or I will attack,and you don’t want that.

    O yeah, We had to wash Nick for a week to get that bosco stench out of him…O SNAP.

  • BraveDad

    @ the Pit,

    LMAO. Did he smell that bad? You know Bellflower used to be big dairy land.

    And by the way, come on mang! You, as well as Front Line know that Sevedra is not 6′. And you have nothing to attack where Im/Bosco is concerned. You know I speak truth as do you, that’s why we can respect one another. But if Front Line is going to come on here and tell tall tales (no pun intended) then you know me, I’m going to set it straight. I’m not trying to give your boy problems; I just want him to know that I know what’s up. Everyone knows that rosters add an inch and/or take off or add a lb or two, but saying Sevedra is 6′ tall is pushing it. Late!

  • NICE TRY!

    @The Pit,
    You obviously don’t follow any other team in the SGV besides SP, understandably, you’re not being honest even with that. If you really watch high school football the last two seasons, you will notice Scoby ran behind one of the best OL in the SGV. Comparing this years SP OL to Charter Oak’s OL the last two season is like comparing Yogi bear to GRIZZLY bear. Here’s our scouting report of your OL:

    Christian Garcia, Senior, by far SP’s best OL, no college offers.
    Junior Millan, Junior, part time starter last year due to injury, nice height, weak base and not much functional strength.
    Mark Millan, Sophmore, freshmen starter last year, at times over matched even at the freshmen level, no where ready for this level of competition especially teams SP will face.
    Saavedra, Senior, more effective as a kicker, too short and too slow as an OL.
    Cloy, Junior, nice size with good hands, slow feet, and below average blocker.
    Cisco, Senior, played JV last season, scouting report n/a.
    Sebastian, Junior, did not play football last year, scouting report n/a.

    Rest assure, any eye ball test you think you can trick us getting off the bus will quickly disappear on your first offensive snap. Don’t forget who ran your defense the last two years and where he is coaching now. Don’t forget who was your head coach the last two years, a legend who is no longer around.

  • The Pit

    @BraveDad

    Let say Sevedra is 5’10 and move on, thats fair.
    Finally, this blog is starting to pick up.

  • Rich Avina

    Your detailed scouting report is amazing…your attention to all the little things is what separates you from an average DC. We will never forget that you ran the defense at SP the last two years or that you are now at La Mirada and you took Jim Phillips with you. Truth is, it’s that you should be the Head Coach at St. Paul but you got a raw deal. It’s time for you to get revenge, by any means necessary…The Big Payback! We Love You Avina! Beat the Swordsmen!

  • NICE TRY!

    Coach, we’ll see you on the field.

  • Pall-Bearer

    I’ll be your Pall-Bearer.

  • Just The Facts

    Fact#1-St Paul has not beat a D-1 Team in over 10 years

    Fact#2-St Paul had a great season 2007 with about 7 transfers(Aubrey Haynes most notable)

    Fact#3-St Paul is 1-7 against St Francis & Chiminade last 4 years

    Fact#4-St Paul has lost against La Mirada & Norwalk in the last 4 years

    Fact#5-St Paul has had a waterdown schedule the last two yers

    Fact#6-Jim Phillips is a good spin meister and coach Avina wants revenge I have no problems with that….Just saying:)

  • Ipso Facto

    –Wow, and who all comprised that staff? Who was guiding that ship? It’s a good thing the administration did not keep anything of that said regime and took the program in another direction. Which direction it now goes has YET to be seen and can only be told at season’s end. It would have been business-as-usual if they kept any of them.
    But nobody, and I mean NOBODY can take away what Ancich did for that program; whether you were on board with his coaching or not.

  • NICE TRY!

    @Ipso Facto,
    When you travel a thousand mile journey and you’re one step away, do you quit to go back? When you build a house and you’re a door away from completing it, do you tear it down? Sometimes business as usual isn’t so bad when you were just one down away from reaching a goal.

    BTW, a Pall Bearer will come in handy this season.

  • Say What!

    @Ipso:
    No s…t I cant believe the record against Mission League St Francis,Chiminade 1-7 Norwalk ,La Mirada losses in the last couple of years ,waterdown schedule,how did they justify that as being st paul tradional Football like you said WOW !!!!! Some one was spinning that line good

  • Whatever

    @Nice try:
    One Goal away from what!!!!!! How long are you going to spin this brother thank god you two are at La Mirage…….LOL

  • NICE TRY!

    @Whatever aka Pall-Bearer,
    One goal? It’s ONE DOWN away from what administration thinks you will be able to do for the school this year with that studly OL.

  • Napolean Complex

    @Nice try:
    I cant believe the Record against St Francis ,chiminade and the loses to Norwalk ,LaMirada,if you peel away the mask its the same face (and by the way I like the La Mirage thing )spinnig at its best Jim Boy

  • pitstop82

    @ all,
    Cant,cant ,cant we all just get along (rodney king 1992) Ok so what if we havent made the playoffs in FOUR years and have a horrible record in missiOn league play,and so on and so on ITS TRADITION HA HA HA HA HA HA ……”Show me the money” I heard that line somewere HMMMMMM!!!!!!

  • NICE TRY!

    @Napolean Complex aka Whatever aka Pall-Bearer,
    The school used to be St. Paul, lots of traditions and loyalty, now it’s St. Puke, lots of trash and dishonesty.

  • Iam a raider fan:Commitment to ?????

    @Nice try,
    Wow such harsh words,Rich in Tradition ….so was Penn state FOOL !!!!!

  • Led Zeppelin

    @just the facts,
    I never realized St Pauls Record the last few years against the teams you mention below, but those are facts nobody can deny ,do the people that are against this program change comprehend the FACTS,or is it just business as usual .

  • Ipso Facto

    @nice try-
    And exactly where was this journey going in your mind? At least when you’re building a house and all it needs is the front door, you can SEE the house. This “journey” was one step away from what – obscurity? What was in their grasps, as you say? How close were they and to what?

  • NICE TRY!

    @Iam a Raiders fan Al Davis Rule,
    Thank you for proving my point about the type of people at St. Puke.

    @Ipso Facto,
    Huh? You’re confusing yourself.

    @Led Zeppelin,
    It’s no longer Stairway To Heaven, now it’s just Communication Breakdown, Dazed And Confused, and inevitably lead to Babe I’m Gonna Leave You.

  • La Mirada suks

    Mrs. Avina give it a rest already!!!

  • Baby I love your ways

    Ok lets get this straight One Guy at whittier ,two guys at La Mirada,one guy at Warren,Thats a total of 4 one more coach to leave and that will make it 5 guys,and the sweep will be complete :)

  • Mexican Pizza

    Which coach went to warren and what coach is next to go,a baseball coach?I know I heard about rumors of a track coach this year trying push kids to go to Warren,if they werent happy with St Paul,Hmmmmmm who is next?

  • Ipso Facto

    The gig is up, king LeMonhead. You’re about as sharp as a marble.

  • Led Zeppelin

    Stairway to heaven !! My favorite

  • Swordsmen

    listen all you LM, SJB-dads,you guys are fools. and mean in the litiral sence. bosco has just had its best two years in 50 years.

    theres great schools and theres up and comers. bosco and la mirada have been coming up for 50 years! so dont compare yourselfes to SP.

  • Tell Me

    @ Swordsmen: What will the enrollment and financial condition be at St Paul five years from now? I imagine this is something you’d rather not think about, because it’s clear to all but the blind that this old school is sinking in quicksand. Meanwhile, schools like Bosco, Servite, MD and the like are gaining ground.

  • Charlies Angels

    @ Just the facts
    I see your point in that the Football team really wasnt going no were the last few years,but you have to realize you had the Spin Meister,what did he do besides spin (i thought he went to whittier with Avina) Then someone told me they are at La Mirada I guess La mirada is deperate to beat St Paul,but you have to give them credit they fielded a team with hardly no boys to choose from spin spin spin spin

  • NICE TRY!

    @Swordsmen
    It doesn’t make any sense to read about an illiterate talking about literary sense. Don’t be macho, go back to adult school and learn to read and write. Your post has to be the worst in terms grammar and spelling in the history of blogs. Next time post in Italian, there is no way we can’t understand you anymore than in English.

    @Tell Me,
    I agree with most of your post. I disagree schools like Servite, Mater Dei, and SJB are catching up to SP. Those schools have long zoomed by and are now light years ahead of SP. SP is the one playing catch up except they are losing ground because as you said, they are sinking in quick sand.

  • Tell Me

    When I say that SJB, Servite etc. are “gaining ground”, it means they are actually ADDING students while the smaller parochials are losing students. Older private schools like St Paul and Pius X dropped from the ranks of serious competitors long ago, and now face extinction.

    Bishop Amat is now where St Paul was two decades ago: on the verge of losing its division one membership and the market share that goes with it.

  • NICE TRY!

    @Tell Me,
    Agreed! That makes perfect sense.

  • BraveDad

    @ Swordsmen,

    Wow, you are an idiot! You are the type of dude that brings embarrassment to SP by citing things 50 years ago that have no relevance today 2012! Believe me, there is no comparison between SP and Bosco! Bosco has been in existence for over 75 years. It was, is, and always will be a far superior school to SP academically, facility-wise, and sports-wise. Who cares about what SP did 50 years ago? The most recent football games between Bosco and SP we whipped your azzes up and down the field. Academically, our student body is growing every year and our academics are far superior to SPs. Our facilities are one of the best in So Cal; SPs are a complete piece of garbage. There is no comparison you idiot. (And dont come on here Pit with your BS either, saying Im picking on your brothers, your brothers have big mouths and speak nonsense!)

  • Apologies From A True Swordsman

    @BraveDad,
    On behalf of all True Swordsmen, I apologize for Swordsmen’s illiteracy and being out of line. I hope you can forgive that Italian idiot who suffers from Dissociative identity disorder (DID), also known as multiple personality disorder, he often think of himself as a cholo. He is a BA outcast who grew up in the jungles of SP and haven’t quite grasp the civilized behavior of being a man. Thank you for your generosity and continuing patience as we deal with his obnoxious antics for only one more season.

  • Swordsmen

    True Swordsmen you are a fake, a kiss butt. Dont apologize when the truth is being told. And yes I have grown up in the juggles of SP. But a counterfeit, my axs, you are the one whos sucking up to an obnoxious brave.

    Stupid bravedad, Bosco has not been in existence for 75 years. The city was still part of Downey 75 years ago. You bravedad is the one specking nonsense! GO SP SWORDSMEN!

  • anony

    Ok sp,.. no jv team this year. The 2012 freshmen team is horrible as well. Two players from last years freshmen team returning. I dont see sp competing without a rent a player system.

  • It’s Over

    No JV team and a horrible, small-numbered freshman team. Meanwhile, Servite is having to TURN KIDS AWAY from its freshman team because of too many applicants. If Assante fails to impress this season, all bets are off for the future of this program and the so-called school it represents.

  • Just The Facts

    @All Bets are off said
    Spin Spin Spin ,Just a Matter of time before the sweep is complete 4 down 1 to go,Asante will be around longer than you think:)

  • Mexican Pizza

    @Just the facts
    What do mean by 4 down and one two go ,are you implying last years Freshmens football head coach? I heard his assistant I cant recall his name went to Warren,is that a rumor or true?

  • It’s Over

    Sure, Assante will “be around”, but not at St Paul. Short of busing paid inner-city athletes into Santa Fe Springs, I see no way to stock the varsity roster after two more years. IT’S OVER.

  • Mexican Pizza

    @its over
    Its sounds like its been over for you for awhile,or it about to be over for you ,go try warren,Whittier,or La Mirada maybe you can give those schools the notion that you can attract players from St Paul ,time to get your credentials and high tale it out:)

  • BraveDad

    @ Swordsmen,

    Even after your own people tell you to stop you continue to embarrass yourself (and SP). Not that I are what you think, but I can’t help because this is so easy and fun. Bosco was established/opened in 1940 so it has been in existence for 72 years. I’m not sure what Downey has to do with anything. Bosco has no affiliation to Downey, Bellflower or any other city brains. It is a Catholic Salesian Brotherhood school (no affiliation to the Archdiocese either). Not sure what you base your posts on, but it certainly is not fact. You, as I said before, are an idiot!

  • Matordores

    What do the last 40 posts have to do with Top players in the area? How about this one, TE and DL/Lb 11th grader T.Luatua 6’4″ 230lbs for La Mirada? He has 17 or 18 D1 offers, including Notre Dame, USC, Alabama, UCLA, Michigan, Ohio State and Nebraska etc… Anyone in the area got a better player at those positons? Including SJB.

  • Respectfully True

    @Matadores
    With all the respect in the world to La Miarda,I hope you do good with all the d-1 prospects,but the Facts are as stated St paul 20-20 the last 4 years Sub 500 pct,0-6 in Mission league play against Serra,ST Francis,Chiminade,no playoffs in the last 4 years come on,Thank you for hiring our former DC coach and thank you for taking the other Gent “The Spin Meister”

  • Swordsmen

    @ bravedad, bravedad what an oxymoron:

    You are a moron, a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment. The embarrassment is you fool. One good year and I stress 1 good year, you want to come on here and strut your tail feathers. I am not usually offensive however a person affected with mild mental retardation as you, one cannot help it. We all are a little stupider just reading your post. So grow up kid..

  • Matordores

    Ok, your post had nothing to do with the top players in the area. But i will address it anyway. In addition to you(StP)we also play la habra, BA and ST.Francis. Soon enough we will see how good our team is. And all i can say about us hiring your old DC, “thank you”. You let a good one go, along with “spin meister”. August 24, Its going to be a battle, let the games begin…..
    PS. How about our MLB Koa Kaleopaa 6’3″ 245 and has 4 or 5 offers including Arkansas, Cal. He should be mentioned too.

  • Avina’s finest hour!

    With Luatua at LB and Avina calling the D, LM will run an ARKIE front and weakside blitz. I cant see SP scoring more than 14 points. Moschetti’s offense will score 4 TD’s. LM 28, SP 14. Revenge is best served COLD…Avina’s finest hour!

  • TROUBLE

    LB Luatua 6’4″ 230 lbs and MLB Koa Kaleopaa 6’3″ 245 lbs, WOW!!! St. Paul is in TROUBLE!!!

  • Apologies From A True Swordsman

    @BraveDad,
    You see what we have to put up with from Swordsmen? Thank you BA for sending us your inmates. Just view him as a Chihuahua, all barks and no bite.

    @Just The Facts,
    Please show Swordsmen the door, he is embarrassing all of us.

  • Steely Don

    Leave it to Matadores (Spanish for bullfighter) to rebel against the bull on this thread. But he makes a good point: everybody’s going to be hopping mad about Ramirez’s player picks, yet they have had little to no input on who THEY prefer.

    Not to say that I haven’t enjoyed the mudslinging, but come on guys, if you’ve been to a couple practices and been impressed with a player of two, TELL US ABOUT IT.

    At my own preferred locale, The Ranch, QB Joe Sanchez is in fine form for his senior season, while Adrian Rodriguez will surely play a key role in a variety of positions. Defensively, Jesus Verduzco will anchor an agressive group who are rounding into form nicely under the tulelage of our South Orange County Sage, Vinnie Lopez.

    The pads have yet to come on, and that of course changes everything, so there is progress yet to be made on all fronts. It’s an exciting time of the year for everyone, and let’s hope for an exciting, safe season.

  • Swordsmen Nation

    @BraveDad,
    You are just jealous because our OL is better than yours. Beau Boyster? So what if he is attending Arizona, our best lineman last year committed to Redland . Nico Falal? So what if he can go to any distinguished university in the country and has committed to USC, our best lineman this year MIGHT attend APU. Don’t be a hater, that’s just how we roll. We know you have better academics, facilities, and sports teams but we don’t care. BOSCO SUCKS! As long as we are macho, alcoholics, and don’t pay tuition ITS ALL GOOD! GO SWORDSMEN!

  • The Pit

    WOW…Ayone that get’s mad and goes off on a school and calls it GARBAGE has *no class”!!! Do u feel better afterwards, ur Mental man. Bloggs should be about football, stats, who coming up,little smack talking…. not this shit.

    To My SP Family we don’t need to prove anything!
    WE know what we have at Sp is special.

    So go ahead and bash me all you wan’t, I don’t give a !

    Im done with this blog, I’ll be watching girls Beach Volleyball…Go Swordsmen, Go USA!

  • Matordores

    @Steely Don
    Glad to hear about your QB. I too have news to report about our QB situation. Our Starting Senior QB Myers looks in top form also. He has gained 45-50 lbs in the off season. Yes, 45 to 50 lbs of muscle, its not a typo. He played last season at 160 and now weighs 205 to 210.
    And we have sophomore QB Dillman, who has 7 or 8 D1 offers. We have the luxury of 2 quality QB’s. One day at a time, 8/24 will come soon enough.

  • Pine tar

    @Avinas Fines Hour
    20-20 sub 500 @ St Paul the last 4 years,I hope he does good @La mirada ,cause he did not get the job done @St Paul ,0-6 The last two years against mission league foes,I hope he Finally Understands that the school saw through the last regime numbers dont lie ,and spin Daddy cant spin those numbers,La Mirada is a great fit for the two spinners,NUMBERS DONT LIE BROTHER!!!!

  • Matordores

    @pine tar
    this thread is supposed to be about the top players in the area. Name your play makers………or you just going to criticize and cheap talk us.

  • Matordores

    @the thread
    Staying on topic, how about our OL Spencer Faatolaia 6’2” 275 (you tube lists him at that) if anything its a little on the short and lite side.
    Our newest member who has 2 offers, Wyoming and Hawaii.
    He could also be mentioned here on the top players….
    We also have bigger players on the roster…

  • Pine tar

    @ Matadores
    I will stay on topic, you have talent,but you ,these guys coudnt(Avina,Spinmaster) even get hired @ Whittier peel it back brother and you will see whats there?the spin maker knows, the question is why wouldnt whittiers football program that has been in the dumps for years want these great St Paul Coaches @ Whittier ,and then the spinster comes crawling back to St Paul with all his St Paul gear on,Whittier seen through these guys,La Mirada will find out the same I am only asking a simple question ,how come whittier which is trying to revive its program,not hire these guys?

  • THE PITT IS BACK

    St Paul, With Coach Asante in Charge will beat La Mirada by 34 points. They have too much Talent with Telles, Scoby and all the Big Time Transfers. St Paul has come together as a team, and La Mirada is in big trouble on Aug 24th. LA MIRADA is A bunch of RICH WHITE PRIMADONAS.
    St Paul 45
    La Mirada 10

  • Canteflas

    @Matadore
    See Compadre its hard to stay on topic when people are now seeing through you guys (El Spinster & El Guapo)The two AmigoS,Mr Pine tar brngs up a good question what happened at Whittier just a simple question? The mighty Swordsmen with tradition and all ,we went 20 -20 4 years and no playoffs and 0-6 like stated previous in the threads against mission league St Fran,Serra,nade,everyone questions Asantes motives on this blog ,can someone let me know before I GO LOCO !!!!!

  • Oblivious

    Congratulations, Steve! You finally have a post that hit 100 comments!!!

  • Special Teams

    50 lbs of muscle in 9 months? What’s in Myers Juice? LM has a field goal kicker that is money from 40 yards. LM’s red zone starts at the 30. Every time they get to St. Pauls 30 yard line, its a sure 3 points if not a TD. This game might come down to special teams. LM 27-SP 24

  • Special Teams

    50 lbs of muscle in 9 months? What’s in Myers Juice? LM has a field goal kicker that is money from 40 yards. LM’s red zone starts at the 30. Every time they get to St. Pauls 30 yard line, its a sure 3 points if not a TD. This game might come down to special teams. LM 27-SP 24

  • Get back to football

    Coach Asante, shouldn’t you be concentrating on getting our boys ready for the season instead of spending all your time on these blogs? Since there are only 4 of you on the coaching staff I think your time would be better spent coaching and not blogging.

  • Del Rio

    Which teams in the Del Rio have the most returning starters?

  • Area Fan

    @Del Rio

    La Serna has 14 starters back and Cal Hi has 13 returning starters. Nice base for the Lancers to build on.

  • Anonymous

    In an organization, its human nature to resist change and to stick with the status quo thats often more comfortable and safe. Some of your teammates in your organization may be devils advocates who claim they want whats best for the organization while they oppose initiatives for Innovation. As a leader and innovator-in-chief of your organization, it is critical to drive the culture of Innovation throughout the organization even in the face of opposition.

    To defeat devils advocates, first you must examine why innovation efforts fail. A major reason is tied to an organizations culture and its people. In a BusinessWeek survey of top-ranked companies in Innovation including Google, Apple, 3M, Toyota and Microsoft, the companies attributed their success to the avoidance of certain culture-related issues. These issues included Innovation that was only lip service all talk and no support. Having isolated initiatives instead of an ongoing culture of innovation was a deterrent. Fragmented support within the organization was certainly an Innovation killer, as well as resources concentrated by certain innovation blocs.

    So how does one defeat the devils advocates to become a true innovation champion for change? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?

  • Spin The Facts Eli

    To St. Paul’s real spin meister aka coach asante, Richard Avina isn’t coaching at Whittier had to do with the school district not allowing Visko Ancich to hire him and not the school itself not wanting him. Please get your facts straight and stop spinning the hate. Judging by these posts, you have your own program to worry about without worrying about others. Good luck to you and the other three coaches on your staff this season, sounds like St. Paul players are getting some good quality coaching.

  • http://john John Daniels

    Pine tar; whittier district did not want st.paul coaches because scared it would be like his brother’s experience. Many have said here already.

  • Pine tar

    @John Daniels said: Thank you both for the truest opinions !!!!!

    Pine tar; whittier district did not want st.paul coaches because scared it would be like his brother’s experience. Many have said here already.
    July 29, 2012 10:31 PM

    Anonymous said:

    In an organization, its human nature to resist change and to stick with the status quo thats often more comfortable and safe. Some of your teammates in your organization may be devils advocates who claim they want whats best for the organization while they oppose initiatives for Innovation. As a leader and innovator-in-chief of your organization, it is critical to drive the culture of Innovation throughout the organization even in the face of opposition.

    To defeat devils advocates, first you must examine why innovation efforts fail. A major reason is tied to an organizations culture and its people. In a BusinessWeek survey of top-ranked companies in Innovation including Google, Apple, 3M, Toyota and Microsoft, the companies attributed their success to the avoidance of certain culture-related issues. These issues included Innovation that was only lip service all talk and no support. Having isolated initiatives instead of an ongoing culture of innovation was a deterrent. Fragmented support within the organization was certainly an Innovation killer, as well as resources concentrated by certain innovation blocs.

    So how does one defeat the devils advocates to become a true innovation champion for change? Anybody? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller?
    July 29, 2012 9:45 PM

  • Charlies in there

    Let us as a organization pin point were we went wrong at St Paul,we can become great,do not take this as a slap in the face.

    Fact:In a BusinessWeek survey of top-ranked companies in Innovation including Google, Apple, 3M, Toyota and Microsoft, the companies attributed their success to the avoidance of certain culture-related issues.

  • Swordsmen

    Whats wrong stupid bravedad? You cant post?

  • again

    No JV team and a low or bad turnout with the freshmen football team. Recruiting is what will stack the football team at SP.

  • SP Swordsmen

    Bravedad is just that, a coward.

    But behind a computer screen, he is BRAVEDAD, he nether played sports and god forbids football.

  • Sorry Charlie

    Don’t “spin” it your way. The next sentence reads-
    “These issues included Innovation that was only lip service all talk and no support.”

  • anony

    So-Cal bravedad must be a bad narrative in HS football. He (bravedad) could not help but take a little SP juice, and energizes himself he is a fool, end of story

  • Matordores

    @the thread
    Back on topic, What team will be able to stay with our WR Shipp 6’5″ 210 lbs. Runs thru or around opponents.
    The best receiver in the area, bar none.

  • Regional Football Fan

    I’m not sure which kids are the top players this year, but with 116 posts on this topic, I’m sure we’ve heard from the top bloggers of the coming season. Maybe Steve can devise an all-area blogger of the year award, where he provides a lavish European vacation for the winner.

  • Friar DaD

    Really!!!

    Sports Blogs should be about Stats, and Records.
    Anyone who calls another school garbage is shady and has No Class what’s so Ever.

    See you soon SJB!

  • Redirect

    How about we beat Steve to the punch and have those of you who are mature enough chime in and give your take on the local schools?
    You know – How’s La Serna going to bounce back from their Conderella run last season? Will they redeem themselves? Will they be good enough to knock off WesCo if they meet up again in the Final?
    Or how about Cal Hi? It’s been quiet over there this off-season? How are things coming along over there? I know there’s a solid running back over there, is he ready? Do they have what it takes to knock off their league rival up the street this year?
    What’s going on over at Santa Fe? Who’s their QB going to be. I know they have a couple of good guys over there at QB. Who’s looking favorable right now? Will this be the year they return to Del Rio supremacy?
    Pioneer, Whittier and El Rancho – how are things coming together with the new coaches? Is everyone getting the plays down? Will one of these three be last year’s La Serna?

    How about La Habra? Is their run of titles going which came to an end last season really going to come to a screeching halt now that the Sunset League (Edison, Huntington Beach, Los Alamitos, etc.) are in their conference? Or do they finally get some competition as a result?

    And it sure has been quiet over at Whittier Christian this off-season. If I’m not mistaken, a junior lineman did get offered by Air Force or Navy or something. Congratulations to that young man.

    No need to get nasty and be immature about it. Let’s just play spoiler to Steve’s magazine that he’s been spending so much time on and neglecting the column with.
    Keep it positive.

  • Steely Don

    @ Redirect: It’s not possible to “beat Steve to the punch” because, if you haven’t heard, Ramirez has punched out…he’s been transferred to the Pasadena paper. He’s signed-on to become Blair football’s P.R. representative and personal counselor to the eight players.

  • Its all in the spin

    @Just the facts :the soldiers are ready 20-20 in 4 seasons 1-7 Mission league play against Serra,St Fran,Nade-losses to LaMirada & Norwalk last 3 years ,The devils advocates have spinned the school to Death the culture within the walls they have managed to create its at its end,They no it they fill it ,the dust is finally starting to settle……GOOD LUCK STEVE RAMIREZ IT WAS HIT YOUR LAST THREAD !!!!!

    St Paul Pray For Us

  • Thomas Michael

    QB: Paul telles (St.Paul)
    RB: Kurt Scoby (St.Paul)
    RB:
    WR: Mackenzie Duarte (La Serna)
    WR: Zach Ramsey (St. Paul)
    OL: Cristian Garcia, (St. Paul)
    OL:
    OL: Isaiah Osorio (La Serna)
    OL: Carlos Tovar (Santa Fe)
    OL: Cris Cisneros ( La Mirada)
    TE: John McFarlane (La Serna)
    PK: Tavis Guerra (La Serna)

    Defense
    DL: Jonathan Gravinni (St.Paul)
    DL: Tyler Luatua (La Mirada)
    DL: Alfred Villanueva (El Rancho)
    LB: Nick Downs(St.Paul)
    LB: Dan Galvez (Santa Fe)
    LB: Michael Dingillo (La Serna)
    LB:
    DB: Cedrick Franklin (St.Paul)
    DB:
    DB:
    SS: Tyler Michael (La Serna)
    P:

  • BraveDad

    @ SP Swordsmen,

    You are a funny man. A group, not all, SP folks come on here and talk smack about other schools and come off the wall talknig about Bosco and because I respond I’m a coward. Whatever! Although I could care less what you think I did play football, not at St. Paul thank God.

    @ Friar DaD,

    Mind your own business punk! Yes, we will see you soon.

  • NICE TRY!

    @BraveDad,
    Welcome to SP, nothing personal, that’s just what we do. If you are not for us than you are against us. Your opinions don’t matter.

  • BraveDad

    @ Nice Try,

    Well I have news for you, nobody’s opinions on these blogs matter. It’s just a place to talk smack, joke around, and in most cases have a little fun banter. Unfortunately there are many folks who come on here and talk nonsense and attack schools for whatever reason. When that happens to Bosco, my school / my son’s school, I fight back. In this case it was a dude who calls himself Swordsman and he attacked me/Bosco for no reason so I fired back providing facts. Funny thing is there are some SP folks who can’t take a response when they make nonsensical, off the wall comments.

    Now, you have some dude posing as a Servite parent commenting on something I posted (BTW, I did not say that SP is garbage, I said their facilities are garbage. Maybe that was too harsh, but I go for the throat). Servite parents talk so much smack about SP so it’s hard to believe that a Servite parent would come to SP’s rescue, which makes me believe the dude is posing. Then hes going to write that I have no class. Thats funny. The other thing that makes me believe the dudes a poser is that the six teams in the Trinity league have the upmost respect for one another, so if this dude is a Servite parent he must be new and does not understand how it works. Good luck with that Friar DaD.

    I’m done – good luck to all programs in 2012.

  • Friar DaD

    SJB has a code of conduct,”Control your temper and never retaliate”.
    I guess Bravedad was absent that day. You ask any Servite alum from the old days, and they’ll all tell you we have nothing but repect for SP. Sadly SP is not as dominant as they once were. I recall playing SP back when they were still immortal and dominant force, It was the Best of times,I hope they continue to grow and some day make it back D1 football where they belong. Can you imagine Dei,Loyola,Amat,Bosco,SP and Servite all back together! Because truly with out SP it’s not the same .

  • HUT

    @Bravedad really…

    “when people attack my school I fight back…how old are you?+ Man you’re a Joke
    Go away, no one whats your input here.

    You have the LB press, stay on your side loserdad.

  • NICE TRY!

    You’re freaking hilarious HUT, you and your childish blog is calling someone else immature. Hahahahahahaha.

  • BraveDad

    Friar DaD,

    Come on with the holier than thou on a HS football blog – lighten up! Let he without sin… right. BTW, no school or person is perfect, how’s that? I let some of these yahoos get under my skin and have to respond. Now as fart as the Serra, yeah it was great and would be interesting to see a similar alignment, but the Trinty has been good too.

    @ Hut, thanks for the time.

  • The PiT

    Say what!!! I only been gone for a week and…

    What the heck is going on! We have a rare sighting of a Freak(Servite) on this blog backing up Sp… We have a new editor from the area which is good news for everyone …We have BraveDad doing his thing,…A little advice to Sp , if ur going to talk smack please back it up w/ some substance…and we reached over a 100 commentsDamn boys give urslef’s a Round Of Applause!

  • Tell Me

    Hey Pit, what’s the deal with Scoby’s academics? He’s been cleared to play right away, but rumors say he’s deficient in his classes to where the Swordsmen might have to forfeit games if he plays. Will the school do the right thing and alter his records to make things OK?

  • Once a Swordsman…

    Yeah Friar DaD I don’t think CIF wants to see the Angeleus League reinstated. They shiver at the mere mention of the name.

  • Once a Swordsman…

    So, Tell Me where did you hear these rumors of Scoby’s classroom problems? Spreading rumors about someone when you don’t know the facts is, at best, immoral.

  • The Facts

    @Once a Swordsman,
    Scoby didn’t go to school for over two months last semester. Are you disputing this fact? Do you know anyone else that didn’t go to school for that long and have passing grades?

  • Tell Me

    Hey, just trying to help. If Scoby’s deficient in his studies, everybody needs to get their story straight on how he miraculously made up his attendance in some kind of acccelerated coursework over the summer, which has made him a genius. Call it immoral, expedient, whatever…it’s the way things get done.

  • Once a Swordsman…

    @ The Facts, I don’t know the answer. I’m asking you for proof and documentation before you make accusations. It’s easy to throw out accusations, but you should have to prove what you say is true.

  • The Facts

    @Once a Swordsman,

    It is very easy for CIF-SS to find out the facts, just call the school regarding Scoby’s 2nd semester attendance:

    1) How many days of school did he attend at Charter Oak?
    2) How many days of school did he attend at Duarte?
    3) How many days of school did he attend at St. Paul?

    Add up those three numbers, subtract it from the total number of days students are suppose to attend, and every one will have there answer. I am willing to wager he missed at least two months of the semester.

  • Tell Me

    Investigating Scoby’s attendance record at the various schools sounds like a PERFECT last chore for the departing Steve Ramirez. Show us why we’ll miss you Steve, dig deep and uncover the truth in this matter.

    If Ramirez doesn’t bite on this chance for glory, we’ll just have to wait for CIF to rule, and when they do, it might cost the Swordsmen dearly. Better to know up front how bad things are.

  • Once a Swordsman…

    @ The Facts & Tell Me
    You folks are making the allegations, so it’s up to you provide the info you have. Don’t pawn it off on someone else. You guys just throw crap out there and hope it sticks. In the mean time you are tarnishing the reputation of a young man who has done nothing to harm you, along with the reputations of teachers and school administrators. Have you no decency?

  • The Facts

    @Once a Swordsman,
    I am not tarnishing anyones reputation. If no wrong has been done than it is all good. But if something illegal was done than the people who did it are tarnishing themselves. The information you are asking us to research is confidential. CIF will be one of the few that can have privilege to that information. I must say there is something to be said about your reaction. Now, I am really curious.

  • Wow

    Sounds like St Paul’s got a hot potato with this Scoby guy missing a lot of classes. You guys need to get this checked out before you score some big wins and then have them taken back because of ineligibility. Seriously, this could be the deathknell for the school because this season means so much.

  • Once a Swordsman…

    @ The Facts
    What is interesting about my reaction? The idea of accusations being thrown out here with no proof is what’s wrong here. Back up what you are writing here with evidence, otherwise you’re just like a gossip columnist.

  • The Facts

    @Once a Swordsman,
    There is only one way to find out the truth, have CIF-SS make the calls. If my intuition is wrong, I won’t have any problem apologizing. Your reaction is interesting because if there isn’t anything to this story you would welcome CIF or anyone else to make the calls, obviously that’s not the case here.

  • Once a Swordsman…

    @ The Facts
    Gossip is gossip and throwing out accusations without having facts to back them up is wrong. It’s rumor mongering, to reinforce one’s own bias. In the meantime it impugns others reputations and integrity. I’m sure if the CIF feels the need to investigate it will. Anonymity makes us all brave, maybe, you should go up to all those involved and accuse them personally. It’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and throw things and hope it sticks.

  • Tell Me

    The thing that makes the Scoby academic situation so suspect is that there was no real advantage, scholarship-wise, to leaving Charter Oak. The major colleges know all about this kid; they would have found him if he played ANYWHERE. The thing that St Paul offers, as has been documented in the past, is creative record-keeping when it comes to grades, attendance and so forth. That is something which would make the SFS campus a perfect fit for someone with less-than-perfect academics.

  • The Facts

    @Once a Swordsman,
    To be 100% sure, someone like CIF-SS will have to do the investigation. I can’t confront anyone. I am not Scoby’s parent or guardian and I am not with CIF. What I do have are friends that attend all three schools. My friends at Charter Oak told me Scoby attended school sporadically the first two months of the semester than disappeared, my friends at Duarte told me he never even step foot on campus, and my friends at St. Paul told me Scoby showed up on campus with about four weeks of the semester remaining. Common sense tells me that since the second semester started in January and ended in June, students should have attend six months of school. If the information above is accurate, that would mean Scoby at best missed at least three months of school last semester. You can call this rumors if you like. They are information provided to me by friends with boys that play football at these schools so I will go out on a limb and say they are pretty accurate. If you have information that shows different, please share.

  • Once a Swordsman…

    @ The Facts
    Again all hearsay and gossip, to promote your bias.

  • The Facts

    @Once a Swordsman,
    If you have information that shows different, please share. Otherwise, your “hearsay and gossip” accusations is just a cover up.

  • A Friend

    Are you St Paul guys gonna act like Penn State and just ignore the dark clouds forming around your program because of this Scoby scandal? Believe it or not, I’d LIKE you to have a good season and get something going in a positive direction. Don’t ignore this issue; get the facts as soon as possible and get this off your shoulders.

  • Once a Swordsman…

    @ A Friend
    Now it’s a scandal, Really? No evidence of wrong doing and you put this on a level of men raping little boys. Really?
    No cover up, just want people to stop disparaging people’s reputations and integrity. Man, the decency level on this blog is plunging to new depths.

  • A Friend

    Yes, I would rate this a scandal, which by definition is an incident which brings about public disgrace or offends the moral sensibilities of the public. If St Paul proceeds to utilize Scoby despite the young man’s massive neglect of his classroom obligations, this would indeed be disgraceful, and is in fact the very reason CIF will not stand for it.

    I do not equate this affair with the Penn State crimes, I point to the parallels of both cases: the feeling of institutional exceptionalism which leads to the certainty that you’ll never get caught. Think it over…do you really want to risk forfeiting a large chunk of your season? As I say, I am a friend.

  • The Facts

    @A Friend,
    I say this is bigger than a school losing its season. We’re talking about wasting a young man’s life. If Scoby is getting passing grades without attending class, he’s just one injury away from working at a fast food restaurant the rest of his life.

  • WOW

    @The Facts

    Man, you sure do have a vendetta for this Scoby kid!!!!!
    Don’t know much about this kid, but he is just that a KID, what did he do to you????
    That’s the problem with today’s society, nobody want to see someone prosper more them them, is your hate more envy???? Stop hating and get off his nuts!!!!

  • Nuts

    Wow, you’re really on the ball, protecting Scoby’s nuts like that. But what about all the other athletes who showed the nads to do their coursework so they could properly ball? Call me a sad sack, but this is the real problem in a nutshell.

  • The Facts

    @WOW,
    You call that a vandetta? Not wanting to see a kid waste his life away. Please get your facts straight.

  • Swordsmen 83

    To the 2 misinformed SPHS Haters……” A Friend said” & The Facts” …..CIF cleared Scoby to transfer and play. This is not an issue. Both of his past schools signed off on his attendance and again, his elgibilty is not an issue. Amazing how two guys who hide behind a laptopm try to badmouth and derail this young man’s HS football career. SPHS Football will field a strong team this season and its a shame two guys who don’t work for the CIF & were never part of the Swordsmen Family feel they can make up false attendance reports on a 16 yr old kid.

  • The Facts

    @Swordsmen 83,
    We’re concern about a young man’s life. Sorry we do not share your win at all cost attitude. CIF cleared Kurt Scoby on a change of residency not on attendance. Due to the supposed change of residency I doubted if Charter Oak or Duarte signed off on anything. Some of us are just wondering how a player who supposedly missed more than three months of school during the semester was able to receive passing grades. A just question if I may say.

  • A Friend

    @ Swordsmen 83: It is my heartfelt hope that your team does great things this year, but that can’t happen if one of St Paul’s genuine detractors finds a way to make Scoby ineligible. Even if it only APPEARS that the Swordsmen are harboring a fugitive from the attendance rules, that doesn’t help your school either.

    Considering how important the upcoming season is to the future of St Paul, I implore you look closely at this issue before the true haters hang you on it. Remember, I am a friend.

  • WOW

    HERE ARE THE FACTS!!!!

    Mid March, Rumors swirl around that Scoby is transferring out of CO and he’s headed to Amat. Last week of March, Scoby checks out of CO and is headed to Duarte and reported that he has been practicing with Duarte during spring break (so 1week of no school).
    May 3rd, reported that it’s official, he has checked into St Paul!!!!!
    Now, can you tell me what 3 months come between March and May???? Cause I can only count 1…….

    Unless your going by the rule of three!!!!

    But I did hear from my neighbor who herd from his gardner that his cousins paleta man told him his friend gave him a dollar for a paleta in which he ate during their conversation about this kid from Duarte who went to school at chater oak but checked out at the end of March and ended up at St Paul 3 months later in May……

    What freaken DU-MAS, and to try and state that your only looking out for him…..
    GOOD LOOKING OUT!!!!!!

  • Next Stop

    Where’s Scoby going next? If the St Paul experiment is a bust, he’ll probably leave before it really implodes; if not, he’ll stay until season’s end, not a second longer (as per rent-a-player agreement). This is Grigsby revisited…what a sorry state of affairs.

  • The Facts

    @WOW,
    WHAT’S UP DOC? Indeed my gardener did tell me about a cholo with a cholo car in a car show had menudo stuck between his teeth and tried to get it out with a Churro. Stop embarrassing yourself with your second grade level math and reading. And STOP playing Sherlock Holmes with your second grade level education. The solution is simple, ask CIF to call all three schools and get the exact number of days Scoby was in attendance last semester. THAT’S ALL FOLKS!

  • A Friend

    What would it hurt for the good folks at St Paul to take the simple precaution of having CIF look at Scoby’s attendance records and declare them satisfactory? Why would they NOT want to be absolutely sure that sanctions do not loom in the horizon? I don’t want to be the one to say “I told you so” sometime in October when CIF officials void several big Swordsman victories. The time to get closure on this hot issue is NOW.

  • BraveDad

    A child’s academic records are confidential and only those with clearance and justification can review said records. How do we know that SP has not already done the check and/or that they know this kid is good to go because he’s been enrolled at the school since whenever? The bottom line is no administrator from SP or any other school is going to post on this blog with the answer you all want so give it a rest. If the kid ends up ineligible and SP forfeits games then shame on their coaches and administrators. If he is okay and plays all season without incident, then more power to SP – geez! I can only assume, thankfully, that none of you yahoos calling for this investigation or that investigation, or commenting on confidential matters are educators because any educator knows this stuff is off the table. If crap hits the fan down the road then anyone willing to do so can provide factual commentary, otherwise leave it alone! Week zero is two weeks from tomorrow/Friday, lets freekin focus people.

  • A Friend

    Let’s say that St Paul happens to beat Mater Dei, La Habra and/or Servite. Is it beyond all possibilities that these schools might have proof of a problem with Scoby’s attendance? Is it unimaginable that these private schools might want to squash a St Paul football rebirth before it can get off the ground?

    Scoby is an integral component of St Paul’s hopes in this pivotal season, and a scandal involving such a player would devastate the school’s reputation going forward. As a member of the Bosco group, is it possible that BraveDad ALSO wouldn’t mind if St Paul took a tumble on this thing? That would explain his rhetoric about ending further comments.

  • BraveDad

    @ A Friend,

    Man come on! I made the comments I made because this is a futile exchange. You ask, “Is it beyond all possibilities that these schools (MD, Servite, and LH) might have proof of a problem with Scoby’s attendance? The answer is YES!!! IT IS BEYOND ALL POSSIBILITY!!! Scoby never attended any of those three schools so how would they have proof? Schools do not share this type of information unless they are involved with the child’s education, e.g., CO did send Scoby’s file to SP and no other school. The only way the three schools you mentioned could have any knowledge of this kid’s academic record is if one of their administrators was previously employed by CO or any other school Scoby attended before SP not even a teacher would have this info. But any smart teacher or administrator knows they’d lose their credential if they discussed confidential information about any child. That said a petty, vindictive teacher/administrator could drop an anonymous dime to the CIF if they “thought” they had some valid info to be checked out and the CIF MIGHT investigate. However, there are some choice words for folks who do that type of stuff. (And by the way, I grantee you that Servite, MD, and LH are not concerned with Scobys academic record; they are busy putting together their game plan & rotation for the season and studying the team theyll face on 08/23-24; obviously youve never coached football.)

    As far as your assertion that I wouldn’t mind seeing “SP take a tumble,” please stop. I have no issues with SP. The only wish I have for SP’s program this season is that all kids stay injury free; same goes for all programs. We don’t play SP this season nor are they in our Conference so we would not play them in the playoffs either. The only team I’m concerned with is Bosco. If our kids do their job every down we will be a scary team to contend with all season and in the playoffs. My only reason for calling for an end to this exchange is because again, it is futile, and vindictive. You can keep making a fool of yourself if youd like, but Im done.

    SEMPER FORTIS!

  • Swordsmen 83

    Did the Swordsmen add another recruit from Wilson? A big defensive lineman? And where did El rancho’s Villanueva end up?

  • Once a Swordsman…

    To all concerned parties,
    CIF has cleared Scoby and Ced Franklin to play this season for St. Paul.

  • Once a Swordsman…

    @Swordsmen 83,
    Yes. Yes a D Line guy transfer.

  • Varsity Only

    I guess there’s not enough money in the pot to subsidize a JV team, or to make the freshman team actually functional. St Paul has been reduced to a showcase for varsity football, which provides a sort of intravenous drip of self esteem for its long-time fans.

  • Freshmen and JV Only!

    Stone Cold Lock: St. Paul’s freshmen and JV team will both go 0-10 this season.

  • Varsity Only

    In lieu of closing the school, St Paul could continue to posture as an educational outlet by offering only night courses, the funds from which would go to fund the varsity-only football program. All other sports and pretenses of being a high school would be abandoned.

    This is not a far-fetched scenario, inthat the school’s main attraction, FOOTBALL, is having great difficulty fielding lower-level teams. If football is in this much trouble, the end must be near.

  • La Miraada Guy

    Well, this thread officially sucks. No one wants to state their players. It’s Assante and henchmen against St Paul haters. Who gives a crap. Football is less than 2 weeks and the 3 Amigos who run this board have all but abandoned us. Their excuse, an all out PrepXtra magazine worthy of a Pulitzer. It takes 3 guys and 2 months to put a 100 page magazine together? Im sure its a lot of work, with a lot of interviews with photos. But i used come here daily looking for kool info from knowledgeable bloggers. That does not exist any more.

  • FYI

    @ La Mirada Guy: I sifted through your inspiring post and you know what? I couldn’t find YOUR list of players either.

  • La Mirada Guy

    @fyi
    Actually i did post who i like on our team. I changed my handle from Matadores to La Mirada Guy. Look again.

  • FYI

    Ah yes, the old switching name trick. I’m guessing your picks were superior to the point where nobody felt they could top them, hence the dearth of further names.

  • La Mirada Guy

    @ FYI
    Nice conspiracy angle, but no. I changed my handle so as not to be confused with the San Gabriel football program(Matadors). La Mirada guy does not have to be explained…

  • La Mirada Guy

    @FYI
    Do you have a few names to throw in the mix??
    Haven’t seen ANY posts by you concerning this matter.

  • FYI

    Like you, I posted a comprehensive list of great players under another name. Speaking of names, where is Eric Terrazas? Are we set to experience another stone age in the blogosphere? Eric, try posting a topic or two, you might like it.

  • outsider

    QB: Paul telles (St.Paul)
    RB: Kurt Scoby (St.Paul)
    RB: Tony Botello (Pioneer)
    WR: Dallas Shipp (la Mirada)
    WR: Zach Ramsey (St. Paul)
    OL: Cristian Garcia, (St. Paul)
    OL:
    OL: Isaiah Osorio (La Serna)
    OL: Carlos Tovar (Santa Fe)
    OL: Cris Cisneros (La Mirada)
    PK:

    Defense
    DL: Jonathan Gravinni (St. Paul)
    DL: Greg Gaines (La Habra)
    DL: Alfred Villanueva (El Rancho)
    LB: Nick Downs(St. Paul)
    LB: Dan Galvez (Santa Fe)
    LB: Koa Kaleopaa (la Mirada)
    LB:
    DB: Cedrick Franklin (St.Paul)
    DB:
    DB:
    DB:
    P: