Rick Neuheisel lashes out at Jim Mora’s criticism of his UCLA teams

Former UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel wasn't happy with Jim Mora calling his old Bruin teams "soft." (Keith Birmingham/Staff)

Former UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel wasn’t happy with Jim Mora calling his old Bruin teams “soft.” (Keith Birmingham/Staff)

On Tuesday, Jim Mora decided to explain the genesis of how he turned around the UCLA football program.

Appearing on The Herd with Colin Cowherd on FOX Sports 1, the Bruins’ current head coach described his first interview with athletic director Dan Guerrero back in December 2011.

“I’m thinking, ‘What do I say here?'” Mora said. “Do I tell him the truth or something like it’s a great school and we can be great? I said, ‘I think you’re soft. I think the football team is soft.’ Dan said, ‘That’s what I think, and we need to toughen it up.'”

This is not an entirely new story. Both Mora, who just completed his fourth season with the Bruins, and several players have told some version of it in the past — usually by describing the program’s culture in broader strokes rather than recalling a specific exchange. This iteration, however, was enough to set off former UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel.

On Wednesday, the 55-year-old lashed out at Mora during his own radio show on SiriusXM.

“All he did was go and paint the walls black and wear black on the sideline, and thinks that that’s tough,” Neuheisel said. “I’ve been in the locker room. There’s all sorts of stuff about Sun Tzu, and The Art of War, and pain and all that kind of stuff. He takes the team to Navy SEAL training. Congratulations. I’m glad you had the money to do it. But don’t talk about toughness with my football team. I’ll go to war with anyone.”

Neuheisel argued that the perception of UCLA as “soft” is rooted in the team’s baby blue colors, adding that the criticism was something he heard often when he was coaching at Washington, Mora’s alma mater. He also pointed out that the Bruins struggled against the run this past season, and have been among the nation’s worst offenders in penalties every year under Mora, who has a 37-16 record over four seasons.

Neuheisel was also upset that Guerrero agreed with Mora’s characterization of the program during that interview, claiming that he did not receive the same institutional support that Mora has at UCLA. The former coach also implied that he might have had much of the same success had he been given a chance to coach Brett Hundley, a quarterback he recruited.

“The facts are, we didn’t have good enough players,” Neuheisel said. “We were 21-29, and I’m man enough to own that record. That’s the facts. That’s what we were and I own it. Jim Mora has done a nice job at UCLA.

“But to hear Dan Guerrero say that we were soft? That makes me bristle. Because Dan Guerrero never came to practice. He never came to my office in four years. Not one time. Not one time did he ever come and be a part of what was going on out there.”

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  • SlipperyPete

    Neuheisel’s team walked out of a Bowl practice after getting beat 50-0 by their biggest rival. That walk out was considered part of the “tradition” of the program. What else can you say?

  • BruinInSeattle

    awk-waaaaaard

  • Ultrabruin

    Call the waaahmbulance!

  • Stuck

    0-50 > Over The Wall > STFU. Neu’s teams were Charmin soft. SMH.

    • gotroy22

      We sure loved his teams!

      • NYC Bruin

        I bet you did.

        • gotroy22

          50-0 could have been 100-0…Neuheisel needs to remember that.

          • NYC Bruin

            Maybe my lowest point as a UCLA fan.

          • gotroy22

            It was even worse that the 2005 rout… but is turned out to be a good thing for ruin football fans because Fatty Guerrero was forced to bring in a real coach and devote resources to rebuild the moribund program.

          • WEB_Dupree

            I seem to recall that there were a few points in that game where field goals were achievable, but Neuheisel kept going for it on fourth. Would the score have looked less ugly with 3 or 6 or 9 points instead of 0? Reasonable people can disagree about that, I suppose.

            Now I look back on that night and think, “Wow, we had no idea just how much everything was about to derail the following season.”

          • JustOwns

            Given the choice of losing a meaningless city game 50 – zip vs the #1 NCAA pre-season team completing an all-time low ball season record 7 – 5 – I’d choose the former.

          • WEB_Dupree

            If you have to choose between the steak and the fish, get the lasagna.

          • JustOwns

            That would depend on whether it’s on the menu. Besides Dupee, lasagna isn’t good enough for you, Escargot and free Fireballs seems more like your speed.

            Dupee, a Bozo, a la carte kind of guy.

          • WEB_Dupree

            Now that you mention it, it is Escargot Thursday at Hooters.

          • JustOwns

            Why am I not surprised. Hee Haw!

          • gotroy22

            Losing that game so badly forced Fatty to dump Neuheisel and hire a real coach.

          • gotroy22

            Once the ruins failed on that opening drive 4th and goal on the one, the game was over.

          • NYC Bruin

            Yup, we had that same situation 3 or four times that year, each time we ran the same play to Coleman who would never get back to the line.

      • JustOwns

        Sad but true – squared.

  • pv bruin

    RN was a fine coach and some of his shortcomings during his tenure were somewhat beyond his control. However ultimately coaches are judged by results and so far JM has taken UCLA program couple notches higher. I am pretty sure JM did more than painted the walls black.

    • gotroy22

      I was surprised when Neuheisel wasn’t picked to be Donahue’s successor. One wonders if things would have been different if Neuheisel had been given the loaded McNown teams.

      • He still would have had no defense.

        • gotroy22

          In 1997 you had that great defense. I remember that was the year Mike Garrett stormed into the locker room at halftime of the ruin game and yelled at the team but we still lost 31-24 at home.

          • In 1998, no defense and a phantom fumble call against Miami ended an undefeated season.

            McNown and Farmer were amazing that year.

  • PVBruin17

    Hmmm, let’s look at the definition of “soft.”

    Soft- yielding readily to touch or pressure; easily penetrated, divided, or changed in shape; not hard or stiff.
    Yep, sounds about right. Sorry RN – but we still like you.

  • NYC Bruin

    I know and like CRN, he is a great Bruin, but maybe one of the worst coaches we ever had. The talent was there, we went from getting pummeled 50-0 and being completely irrelevant to coming within a field goal of a conference title. Does anyone remember his blind loyalty to Kevin Prince? Does anyone think he would have started Hundley had he been given another year? Rick needs to stick to broadcasting and avoid try to defend an indefensible record.

    • gotroy22

      Ruins will always owe Neuheisel for not burning Hundley’s redshirt year.

      • NYC Bruin

        How? He only played 3 years and left a fourth on the table? The reason he red shirted was an off season basketball injury.

        • gotroy22

          If he burned that first year you wouldn’t have had Hundley in 2014 when he destroyed my Trojans for a 3rd straight year.

          • NYC Bruin

            It’s never easy to speculate on these things, but graduating played an important factor in his decision, which is part of the reason why he stayed. I also contend, that Hundley would not have been much better than Prince or Brehault in that inept pistol offense.

          • PVBruin17

            And don’t forget that RN had a 5 star QB in Olsen (I think that was his name). Was Olsen just overrated or did the coaches fail to protect/develop him? Hundley might have been ruined by spending a year in RN’s system.

          • NYC Bruin

            Olsen and Cowan were both Red Shirt Seniors when CRN got to campus, they went down for the season on consecutive plays in spring ball and gave rise to Kevin “pick six” Craft.

          • Laker Rod

            But yet Kevin Craft is the last UCLA QB to beat Stanford. Craft had a horrible offensive line also. After RN decided to bench Craft all the subsequent freshman QB’s sucked also. RN’s puts Forcier in 2008 and he throws interceptions also and RN goes back to Craft.

            In 2009, RN refused to play Craft and give him any practice reps. After Prince and Brehaut got hurt, Craft actually started against UW and Craft led UCLA to a 24-23 victory and prior to this UCLA lost 5 straight conference games.

            I repeat…UCLA fans never learn. Always trying to go with the new guy. Kevin Craft of 2009 was NOT the same QB as 2008. He was better. He would have been the better choice if the UCLA coaches like RN could teach and coach.

            Any coaching staff who is constantly bringing in “new” freshmen players to start and/or play alot in many positions is a red flag warning that they truly suck.

          • NYC Bruin

            Wow, congratulations! I’ve never seen a more categorically incorrect post, and you didn’t spare a word doing it. First, Are you honestly comparing the Stanford team of 2008 to today? If you are, than you’re either blind or intellectually challenged. Second Forcier played sparingly for gimmick plays never once started a game and threw a single interception in his 11 career passes. Lastly, Prince started the UW game and got hurt at the end of the first half. You’re entitled to your opinion not your own facts. And and after all that what was the point of your factually challenged post?

          • Laker Rod

            The point I’m making is that Stanford was far less of a program back in 2008. Think about it.

            The point of bringing Kevin Craft is that RN had a habit of going with a new guy after the existing guy didn’t do well. Even Harbaugh decided to stick with Pritchard and redshirt Luck. See my point? RN should have stuck with Craft in 2009 and for sure redshirt Brehaut in 2009. Understand?

            The point with Forcier is that RN clearly had the wrong mindset. Don’t you get it? If one guy isn’t doing well even for a short period…he says screw this we’re going with Forcier…and bottom line he sucked also. No matter what new guy RN tried they sucked or made too many mistakes. Malcolm Jones true frosh fumble issues, etc. Morrell Pressley and Randall Carroll true frosh can’t catch.

            And good point about against UW but that only strengthens my argument. Can’t you see how RN made stupid decisions but yet he’s forced to go with his own last resort of Kevin Craft Sr in 2009…yet again…proves me right…and proves all the other Bruin fans wrong as usual. Craft Sr wins.

            And if you’re talking about 2015 related to Jerry…the point is that the UCLA coaching staff should have had some other better alternative than going with a true frosh QB. The gap between Hundley and Rosen was 3 other recruiting classes. It was the UCLA coaches who couldn’t develop Asianti Woulard or any other QB or it was their choice to simply go with Rosen.

            And as I said before…Rosen as a true frosh wasn’t going to save anything for the 2015 season and I was proven right yet again. So why play him? Rosen lost to USC too. Why not save him for the future like Harbaugh did with Luck? We now only most likely have Rosen for 2 more years. We then switch OC’s and are now trying to go with a different type of offense. Ridiculous.

            You can clearly see the difference between what Harbaugh and Stanford is doing vs that of Mora/UCLA. Which way is better? Clearly Stanford’s method is better.

            In Harbaugh’s 4th year in 2010, he got Stanford to a BCS bowl game and an 11-1 record and 8-1 conference record. He took over a way crummier team than what Mora inherited. Where did Mora/UCLA end up? 8-5…Mora’s worst season at UCLA yet in his 4th year.

            Face it. Mora has been trying to do everything too fast. He has no patience and simply wastes players by playing too many true freshmen. Is it finally going to stop in 2016? How many do you see playing? I’m hoping maybe only 3. Will Mora learn his lesson? Sometimes I don’t think so. He’s as stubborn as they come.

          • NYC Bruin

            Word efficiency can be a beautiful thing, you should learn it, especially when most of what you write is factually wrong. Kevin Craft, was the worst UCLA QB in the modern era of football, numbers back this up, both statistically and by wins and losses, period end of story. You started by comparing Mora to CRN and when you lost that argument you changed it to Harbaugh? No one is arguing Mora vs. Harbaugh, one is an elite coach the other is a good coach with a pretty substantial gap between the two.

            Okay, he Redshirts Brehault, does that mean he plays over Hundley in 2012? What’s your point? And how were you proven right? Craft was the backup and the starter got hurt, again, whats your point? Please make sure your facts are actually facts in your next you post.

          • Laker Rod

            Word efficiency is difficult when many UCLA fans simply don’t get it. You are missing the point. Craft was not the worst UCLA QB in the modern era of football. If he was so bad then how did he lead UCLA to come back victories against Tennessee and Stanford in 2008 and Washington in 2009. Craft had a horrible coach to work with and terrible offensive line. He got hit so hard many times but incredibly enough he got back up. He didn’t have a glass jaw like redshirt frosh Kevin Prince whom RN ruined by playing him so early. Do you get any of this?

            The pattern has been the same with Karl Dorrell, Rick Neuheisel, and Jim Mora. They all play too many true freshmen. Deal with it.

            The only difference between Mora and KD/RN is that KD/RN used to put far more reliance on those true freshmen…meaning they started alot more. Jim Mora has not played many true freshmen in “heavy” roles but he has still played many true freshmen. You cannot argue against this.

            And yeah…if Richard Brehaut was coached/developed properly then it would be natural that he would be starting over Hundley in 2012. Were you one of the morons who wanted Brehaut to start as a true frosh back in2009? It’s ridiculous being in the Rose Bowl and fans chanting for “BREEEEHO” in 2009. Then of course when he struggles the same fans start to boo him. Same pattern always.

            I have given you all the facts. Read them over again. You care to clarify your own position pertaining to the reliance of true freshmen?

            The cycle never ends. The UCLA coaches continually go with some new young guy and then they don’t even stay or last all 4 or 5 years and never reach their full potential. Ellis McCarthy, Caleb Benenoch, Alex Redmond, Simon Goines, Devin Fuller, Priest Willis, Jaylen Ortiz, Thomas Duarte, Kene Orjioke, Ian Taubler, etc.

            And think about guys like Isaako Savaiaena, Jayon Brown, Cameron Judge, and Deon Hollins. They are all true seniors already. They all played as true freshmen and 3 of the 4 were way undersized at linebacker.

            We need to have more guys like Eric Kendricks, Brendel, and Johnathan Franklin who stayed all 5 years. Understand?

            Can these UCLA coaches coach and recruit properly? If yes..then UCLA shouldn’t have to be playing all these true freshmen.

          • NYC Bruin

            Sorry dude, I’am not reading your long factually challenged diatribes anymore. You lost me at pointing at comeback wins against historically bad Tenn and Stanford teams. Go back to clutching your pearls every time a freshman hits the field.

          • Laker Rod

            LOL!! Lame. No wonder UCLA sucks. Just a sorry loser program.

          • NYC Bruin

            Not as lame as a grown up overusing LOL like a 12 yr old girl with her first cell phone. I love the straw man of comparing a team to their fans. But if UCLA sucks as you say, how come Jim Mora has the best record of any coach in the Pac-12 South over the last 4 years? How about the fact that he has the best 4 year record of any coach in UCLA history? As far as me being loser, I have a degree from UCLA and HBS and run a PE shop in Manhattan, i doubt you have the former and you’ll probably have to google the latter two, loser.

          • Laker Rod

            LOL!! Best record in Pac-12 South. LOL!! Not saying much.

            Last I checked there was a North division also which has won the conference championship 5 years in a row.

            2011 – Oregon over UCLA
            2012 – Stanford over UCLA
            2013 – Stanford over ASU
            2014 – Oregon over Arizona
            2015 – Stanford over USC

            UCLA’s last conference championship was 1998..getting close to 20 years ago. UCLA has not won a major bowl game like the Rose Bowl since 1986.

            UCLA’s most successful run was in the early to late eighties. They accomplished this run with a succession of 5th year senior QB’s and/or upperclassmen QB’s. All the better teams I’ve seen from UCLA have more upperclassmen in key spots. Every time we play freshmen on the line..we suck. Even true sophomores on the Dline isn’t good enough.

          • gotroy22

            Didn’t their feet both break or some weird kind of injury?

          • gotroy22

            Over-rated. Like Ricky Town.

          • Paul

            Mora took over a talented team in need of a QB, got one in 17, changed the attitude and the results were immediate. We do owe Neuheisel for loading up on talent; cupboard was bare when he arrived.

          • NYC Bruin

            Mora didn’t have any real contributors that were true Freshman on the 2012 team, those were all players CRN misused and had at his disposal.

          • Paul

            Like I said, there was talent when Mora arrived. Missing were a QB and a coach.

          • NYC Bruin

            Wasn’t disagreeing with you.

          • gotroy22

            Don’t disagree with Paul-bo. He gets very very angry.

          • Paul

            yeah, that’s been a problem since your mother stopped visiting

          • gotroy22

            You mother toild me this moring when I woke up that you have “issues”.

          • gotroy22

            3 star talent. Mora coached them up and shocked my 5 star Trojans.

          • Laker Rod

            But here is the list of true freshmen that Mora decided to play in 2012:

            1. Ish Adams (ended up getting hurt in 2nd game I believe got his redshirt year back)
            2. Devin Fuller
            3. Randall Goforth
            4. Simon Goines
            5. Ellis McCarthy
            6. Fabian Moreau
            7. Kene Orjioke
            8. Jordan Payton
            9. Marcus Rios
            10. Ian Taubler
            11. Kenny Walker
            12, Kaimi Fairbairn

            Only Goines and Fairbairn were full time starters and Goines wasn’t even fully healthy and his career got ruined to due lingering injuries.

            Mora probably could have gotten away with just playing 3 or 4 from the 2012 class. If he did and he brought them along more slowly like Stanford does…who knows how many would still be here for the 2016 year.

            Currently we have possibly 10 players returning for their 5th year which is not bad:

            1. Ish Adams
            2. Eli Ankou
            3. Colby Cyburt
            4. Randall Goforth
            5. Carl Hulick
            6. Nate Iese
            7. Taylor Lagace
            8. Fabian Moreau
            9. Marcus Rios
            10. Kenny Walker

            3 guys are iffy though. Hulick, Lagace, and Cyburt. No idea what Mora has plans for these guys. However…I don’t believe they went out being introduced on Senior Day/Night.

          • NYC Bruin

            Didn’t name a single serious contributor, outside of Fairbairn, who was worse that Forbath his Freshman year, so thats a wash. You also got your facts wrong, again, Ish was 2013 not 2012.

          • Laker Rod

            Exactly my point. So why did Jim Mora play all these guys then? Got it?

            And just because you have a “freshman” of the year doesn’t justify anything. Chase Moline was freshman all america in 2005. Did it mean anything positive?

            UCLA has had way more “freshman” honors that Stanford because Stanford coaches are not stupid enough to have to rely on freshmen in such a heavy role.

            And YOU are wrong about Ish. He was class of 2012. Go look it up. Get your facts right.

          • SonofWestwood

            Neu “loaded up” on mostly B-grade skill guys (fully half of whom transfered out or worse) who had NO O-LINEMEN to block for them. Hence, the Utahs, BYUs Wazzus, Arizonas and oh yes USCs of the world all mowed the grass with Rick’s “teams.” Love the guy, but his Homecoming was a DISASTER.

          • Paul

            He was a disaster coach, but I must disagree on the talent point: Payton, Perkins, Hundley & Co. were most definitely not b-grade talent. A big part of the reason Mora was able to reverse fortunes so quickly was the fact that there was talent on the roster (albeit misused/underutilized) for him to work with

          • SonofWestwood

            100%

      • Paul

        Troll on, chump.

        • USC Rah Rah’s Rule

          Punting is winning!

          • gotroy22

            That was the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard a coach say.

          • USC Rah Rah’s Rule

            “What’s your deal?” was pretty amusing, too…..

        • gotroy22

          What’s the matter bro? The truth hurt?

          • Paul

            Amount of time I spend trolling Southern Cal fan sites: zero

          • gotroy22

            Is The Dr Rachel Maddow of Inside USC your sister?

          • Paul

            That was really funny. You should consider quitting your day job (McDonald’s, right?)

          • gotroy22

            Are you ray-bo’s boyfriend? He whines just like you do on our board about ruins posters.

          • Paul

            Such tough talk behind a fake online name. Save it for the other Clown College bitches.

          • gotroy22

            Paul-bo is your real name? Or are you a sock puppet of the rah rahs on Inside SC who similarly are deluded that they are the board monitor?

          • gotroy22

            Paul-bo is your full name? Are you Cher’s lost son?

      • LTEfan

        Hundley left with a year of eligibility remaining so it didn’t end up mattering, if you do the math.

      • Laker Rod

        Dude…if RN played Hundley as a true frosh…we all would have seen more games of like Hundley played against Cal where he threw 3 interceptions and UCLA lost.

        You really believe the UCLA offensive coordinator of 2011 Mike Johnson who was in his 1st year as OC would have produced something out of Hundley? LOL!! Hundley probably would have gotten hurt and his career ruined if he played as a true frosh. And Hundley was injured anyhow so it’s a moot point.

        Folks don’t appreciate Noel Mazzone like they should related to running a simple offense where freshman QB’s can operate at a decent level. Mazzone’s issue is that he can’t get over the hump against the better defensive teams and always chokes in key games.

        • NYC Bruin

          Where where did you get that Hundley should have started from anything I wrote? He couldn’t, he was injured that summer playing basketball and wasn’t healthy until the last half of the season. I do think Rick would have started Prince or Brehault the next season had he been retained though. I also have never trashed Mazzone, he brought our offense into the 21st century. Although I think our offense will be more dynamic with KP adding pro style elements to a spread system.

          • Laker Rod

            Ummm…if you look more closely…I was replying to gotroy22.

            As far as what Rick N. would have done…I disagree. In 2012, Rick would have gone with Hundley and Hundley would not have had a year anywhere close to the actual one of 2012.

            Did you not notice the pattern with Rick Neuheisel in how he often tried to play the new young guy. That’s all he ever did from 2008 thru 2010. He only stopped doing this in 2011 because he realized playing all these young guys was not getting him anywhere. He finally decided to redshirt practically everybody in 2011. Mora reaped the benefit of this.

            Rick N. in his own mind would have known that he was on the hot seat…really hot seat for 2012…he would have had no choice but to go with Hundley because UCLA has a fan base that works off of a mindset of if the existing player doesn’t do well then why stick with him….let’s go the new route. What they fail to understand is that the Brehaut/Prince of 2012 would not have been the same QB’s of year’s past. They would have been better.

            Think back to 2005, everybody wanted to go with Ben Olson RFr 5 star QB. I wanted to go with Drew Olson Sr. The only reason why Karl Dorrell went with Drew is because of accident. Ben hurt his hand and so KD went with Drew. Drew Olson had quite a fantastic senior year after struggling two previous years.

            Imagine if UCLA didn’t stick with Cade in 1997 and 1998. He had a pretty rough 1995 and 1996 season.

            If a coach can truly coach and develop players then the older guy should be better than the younger guy. We are talking about college football players here. There is a huge difference between a 17/18 year old vs a 20/21 year old. While not always the case…it’s most often the case if the coaches are any good.

            There are also other factors to consider. Since Mora played Hundley as a redshirt frosh in 2012…he bailed after his redshirt junior year to be a 5th rounder. Had Mora played Brehaut or Prince Hundley would most likely have stayed for 2015. Josh Rosen would have then redshirted.

            If Brett Hundley was the QB in 2015, UCLA probably would have won the conference championship IMO. Rosen would have had more time to mature and bulk up and get faster and be more of a read option type QB.

            Now…look at what has happened. Rosen already a true sophomore now learning a new offense from a new offensive coordinator who has never really called plays. Wow. Don’t really care about more “dynamic”….I care more about being effective.

            Also…how can we go more pro style for 2016 when UCLA doesn’t even have any experienced tight ends? Mora thinks a true frosh TE can get the job done? LOL!!

            Don’t get me wrong…I want UCLA to be more mixed on offense but I don’t think KP is the answer. I think he’s a great position coach but why does all this “on the job” training occur at UCLA.

      • SonofWestwood

        ..and the Clown_U trOJans will always owe Brett Hundley for 3-double digit beatdowns and a 10Y dumpster fire that left Fig Tech playin with “Clay”.

    • JustOwns

      I remember vividly that game, that Prince’s passes rarely came within 5 yards of an open receiver.

      • NYC Bruin

        How about the Texas game when Prince was injured the previous two weeks and Brehault was playing well, but CRN threw Prince out there and he proceeded to throw 3 picks in the first 3 drives. We were 21-0 before you could blink.

      • Paul

        Unless the receiver was an opponent’s DB on his was to the end zone for a pick-6

      • Laker Rod

        But yet probably 90% of Bruin fans wanted Kevin Prince redshirt freshman to start in 2009. LOL!! Then when that didn’t go well it was start Richard Brehaut as a true freshman. LOL!!

    • EncinitasBruin

      Agree. Went to school with him. A wonderful guy, full of heart, integrity, and passion. But totally agree on all above.

    • SonofWestwood

      1000%. NYC Bruin. 100,000%. You really hit all the quadrants.

      By the time he was fired, Rich Neuheisel managed to make Karl Dorrell look like Nick Saban. The Year over Year (2012 to 2013) improvement in strength, conditioning, execution, motivation, morale and above all — RESULTS — set Jim Mora and Rick Neuheisel about as far apart as the Sun & Moon. Saying you “own” the failures of your tenure is NOT the same as actually owning it. Rick is in complete denial about his failures at UCLA, which is why he may never coach at this level again.

      On almost every level, he was horrible. And now, as an UCLA Alum, Parent, Patient and former employee, the guy has absolutely embarrassed himself with this tirade of excuses, finger pointing and lack of basic understanding about his many faults on the job.

      You don’t have to be a Mora supporter to know that absolutely NONE of the positive attributes UCLA Football currently offers Recruits, Student Athletes and their Families on and off the Field, in development as young men, in the eyes of the National Press and at the Next Level (NFL) would EVER have been attained under Rick Neuheisel’s feckless leadership. In both cases, Results truly speak for themselves. Jim Mora doesn’t have to say a WORD what all he’s accomplished here, while Rick Neuheisel should just swallow his pride, give Mora credit and find away to Act Like a Bruin.

  • cmwilliamsd

    Turn the page Rick. Be thankful you can bump your gums for a living. You left three D1 schools in shambles.

    • JustOwns

      Sad, but true. I witnessed the 50 – zip game.

  • WEB_Dupree

    So few comments about a story as inflammatory as this? Over at Inside USC, a story about a spat between Helton and Sark would have over 200 posts by now. True, many of them would be about Haden or trolling or Hillary Clinton or who knows what all, but still.

    • JustOwns

      Dupee, RN is just defending a his fragile legacy. He gave UCLA a shot, and lost. Win a few, lose a few, RN is better off where he is now, and RN is welcome on the UCLA campus.

      • Jethro G Sabbath

        But you aren’t.

        • gotroy22

          Why not?

          • Jethro G Sabbath

            Have you seen the way he conducts himself on Wolf’s blog? UCLA has much higher standards than that.

          • JustOwns

            JG you’re a joke, a terriblely bad joke.

          • Xtracrazy32

            Scott wolf is creepy!

          • gotroy22

            golly nerd is creepy!

          • Xtracrazy32

            More proof that you are Scott wolf! Why would some blogger come and criticize me, because I insulted Scott wolf. No one does that, because no one respects him. Hey Scott, I was once talking to former daily news ucla beat reporter Jon gold about you. He said that you are total weirdo. He has more insight than us, because he worked with you for so many years. Gold is a very classy guy, so he didn’t want to be mean, but he could not ignore the obvious!

            As much as I dislike lane kiffin, I totally no where he was coming from when he tried to get you fired!

          • gotroy22

            Don’t get so steamed just because you are a poorly disguised golly nerd sock puppet. Next time do a better job. Your theory that anyone who isn’t a brainless rah rah must be Scott Wolf is simply Pauline Kael-ish.

      • WEB_Dupree

        Are you welcome on the UCLA campus, or is the restraining order still in effect?

        • JustOwns

          Why wouldn’t I be welcome Dupee.?

          • WEB_Dupree

            You know why. All those kids on that field trip know why. And most of all, that poor Bruin bear statue knows why.

          • JustOwns

            Typical Bozo U fan. They run out of steam, can’t sustain written threads, and they start chucking mud. Dupee, just another honorable Bozo U family member.

          • WEB_Dupree

            I can chuck steam, run threads, and sustain mud like nobody’s business.

  • Richard

    CRN fought the good fight w both hands tied behind his back. He had ZERO $ to work w/. Mora was the beneficiary of the substantial guaranteed TV $, c. $5m, at the time, as I recall. W/o that we’d still be in the dumper !!!
    This also can be used as an excuse as to why Jerry won’t be on the staff next year !?? I have the feeling KP, the new TE coach and especially Tui do not want to compete w/ Jerry for power and influence over the O & JR. We shall c. God Bless him no matter where he ends up. # Great Bruin GREAT BRUIN FAMILY.

  • Paul

    Rick, you went to war with Southern Cal and the result was 0-50. Argument over.

    • j metaphor

      Rick,
      Regardless of what the A.D. said before the SC game, you should understand that all bets are off when you lose to $C by 50. There were many that said you should have been gone after the U of A game when you lost control of your team. Again, you are a great Bruin but as Donald Trump would say; “You had a losing record, you lost control of your team at Arizona and you lost to your main rival 50 to zip, Rick, you’re fired”

  • Sam Bam

    Jim send Pete Carroll a thank you card for him taking your job and allowing you to coach against Kiffin, Ed O, Sark, Helton and 30 less scholarship Trojans on the football field.

    Your Welcome!

    • gotroy22

      So you are blaming Pete for USC getting on NCAA probation and then abandoning ship?

      • Sam Bam

        Not blaming him at all. But Mora’s lucky that Carroll went to Seattle and never had to coach against him and college. And he’s very lucky he got to coach and recruit against a rival with 30 less football players.

        • gotroy22

          The first win for Mora was after Kiffin had loaded up with 31 recruits in 2011 and the team was preaseason #1.

          • Sam Bam

            We were never loaded. Every game the commentators would point out that SC was only 22 strong. No depth whatsoever.

          • NYC Bruin

            The sanctions had zero impact on the 2012 team, the scholarships losses did not kick in until 2013 and they were bowl eligible again. If you also look at the recruiting rankings USC was not starving for talent.

          • Sam Bam

            NYC look up and see how many transfers USC had after the sanctions were announced and before they actually kicked in. We had players who were early enrollees transfering out and junior, seniors.

          • NYC Bruin

            Every school has transfers, I remember Malik Jefferson, can you honestly name a player that had an impact somewhere else?

          • Sam Bam

            You can’t compare the two. The NCAA allowed any player on USC’s roster to transfer and play immediately as soon as the sanctions were announced and before they kicked in.

          • NYC Bruin

            Sam, you still aren’t answering my question, who left that made an impact anywhere else? Who would have made a material difference to that USC team, which was ranked number 1 in the country going into the season and had run through the Pac-12 the year before?

          • Sam Bam

            Well I’ll give you two WR’s who left. Bryce Butler and Vidal Hazelton both left and both were 5-Stars. But to San Diego St, Hazelton to an ACC or Big 10 school.

          • NYC Bruin

            Come on Sam? has WR ever been a position that lacked depth at USC?

          • Sam Bam

            numbers and depth hurt. Not individual players and who they are.

          • NYC Bruin

            Again, name a team in the conference who would not have traded their entire WR unit for yours at any point in the last 5 years?

          • gotroy22

            In 2012 we had two great WR in Marquis Lee and Robert Woods!

          • gotroy22

            Vidal was a bust, get serious.

          • Sam Bam

            We also lost Markeith Ambles another 5* WR. There’s bust everywhere. See Randall Carroll…

          • NYC Bruin

            Busts have nothing to do with sanctions, everyone has them.

          • Sam Bam

            NYC my point with Ambles isn’t that he was a bust, but he’s another receiver (5-Star btw) who also transferred.

          • NYC Bruin

            He committed after the sanctions were announced and left because he sucked, not because of scholarship limitations. My point is you can’t blame everything on the sanctions. A better arguement would be that the Pac-12 promoted parity through the TV deal and parity hurts the big dog the most.

          • Sam Bam

            You are correct! I had to look that up.

          • NYC Bruin

            Always enjoy our civil arguements Sam.

          • Sam Bam

            Me too NYC

          • gotroy22

            Didn’t you have a bust with some 5 star WR too?

          • WEB_Dupree

            It feels like the legacy of Markeith’s “trogans” tweet will live on long after we’ll all dead. Too bad he can’t collect royalties.

          • gotroy22

            So THAT’S where that came from!

          • gotroy22

            Remember we benefitted from Penn St.’s sanctions.

          • gotroy22

            So all those preseason prognosticators were wrong?

          • Sam Bam

            Ummmm…….
            I’d say yes.

          • gotroy22

            Not the games I watched. Perhaps you are referring to our esteemed homer announcer Pete Arbogast.

    • Paul

      The 2012 game was a rematch of 0-50…quit crying about sanctions

      • Sam Bam

        Your Welcome Paul. I hope you enjoyed the sanctions because we are coming.

        • Paul

          We’re terrified. Really. See you in November.

          • Sam Bam

            Oh I seriously cannot wait!

          • gotroy22

            Who is “we”? You and the mouse in your pocket?

          • Paul

            Bet it took you a really long time to come up with that one. Had to interrupt your daytime TV, I’ll bet.

          • gotroy22

            Your takes are positively CowPolyFan3.0-ish.

        • NYC Bruin

          USC will more hurt by the sanctions in the next 5 years than the previous 5 years. The sanctions, combined with TV money elevated the rest of the conference closer to USC in resources. Look at the coaches in our conference right now, how many do you think will be coaching in 10 years, probably most of them, how many coaches still have head gigs from the PC era? Another good example is recruiting resources, the previous two coaching staffs at UCLA had to fly coach to visit recruits, we now use private jets. The world caught up to USC and I don’t think you will see the same type of dominance you got under a generational coach in a long time.

          • Sam Bam

            We played games with only 46 scholarship players. We signed a #1 recruiting class in 2015 and a top 10 class last week. Imagine USC signing 50 more players in the next two seasons with the normal 4 and 5 star kids.

          • NYC Bruin

            You also rarely played guys in conference who held offers from USC. Consider that for several seasons UCLA had one player on their roster with a USC offer, they have more than 30 now. It is a different world, I am sure USC will always be formidable, but the Pac-12 is no longer USC and the 9 dwarfs.

          • gotroy22

            At one point under Pete they said 45 of the top 50 players in the Pac 12 were on SC’s roster.

          • gotroy22

            If only we had signed a 5 star coach.

          • Sam Bam

            We need a DeLorean time machine

  • jameskatt

    Sorry, Rick.

    UCLA was soft when you were coach. Too many times, the players came to games not ready to play.
    UCLA has improved, but is still soft compared to the big boy teams under Mora.
    Mora has assembled a more pro-style team of coaches that can change that.

    Interestingly, Kiffin did pretty well as an assistant coach for Alabama. He’s better as an assistant coach than head coach.

  • Laker Rod

    Rick is starting to out do me in the crying and complaining. Sheesh I need to step up my game with the sky is falling arguments.

  • j metaphor

    Rick is perfecting his “keep your name in the news game”
    Great recruiter, great broadcaster, great Bruin but……….
    Yes, your teams were soft. Just ask the players that were there when Mora came in if there was a difference.

  • BruinTax

    Coach Mora has done a very good job during his tenure. However, I dont think he has earned the right to be throwing stones at Rick when Mora’s teams have gotten their butts handed to them EVERY year by Stanford and Oregon. I bet Stanford would call the Mora coached Bruins soft and based on the results of those Stanford games, it would be hard for anyone to argue otherwise. They have manhandled us for years now.

  • Darwinian

    The RN hire never really resonated with me so I was glad when he left. He had one job, to beat SC, and failed miserably. He just was not smarter than Carroll. He failed to produce results because he lost his player’s confidence in him. I agree that the the AD could have done more to help him, but he was keeping his distance for media purposes.

  • EncinitasBruin

    Rick, buddy, you need to take a deep breath. I love your passion, bro, but you were mostly talk with very little walk. As a season ticket holder, the first couple of times that you addressed the Rose Bowl crowd after a home loss, and said, “Stay with us, don’t give up, we are on our way,” we believed you. But after bad loss after bad loss, the shine was off. The silly billboard along the 405 and the “we are closing the gap” comments only made your terrible record on the field even more embarrassing for you.

    We love Little Neu–you raised a great son. Looking forward to him having a successful career as a college football coach.

  • Charles Lee Brady

    Rick, I love you dearly and strongly wish it had worked for you at UCLA. However, on this issue, I wish you had just kept your mouth shut.

  • Albert MacKrell

    I like c
    Rick Neuheisel as a person, and he clearly is a pretty good dad, but he can’t argue that UCLA teams under him weren’t “soft”. If you want to say they were “small” or “finesse oriented” or “speedy”, that is just a nice way of saying that they were neither physically or mentally tough. And while I feel that things are better under Mora, there are too many games where UCLA has a chance to win, or should win, where they don’t compete as hard as they should. To win the Pac-12 (forget about national championships) that needs to change. The team needs to show up every game, and not just against USC.