For all the talking about football’s “depth crisis,” how sympathetic do you think USC’s track, volleyball and baseball coaches are?
Baseball gets 11.7 scholarships. Men’s track gets 12.6. Volleyball gets 4.5. Those sports can split scholarships. So let’s say you are recruiting someone who is also considering UCLA and offer a half-scholarship. That means the athlete must still pay $24,174 to USC. And the athlete $6,597 at UCLA.
How often does USC win that recruiting battle? UCLA can sign almost four for the price of one half-scholarship at USC. I doubt the other USC coaches feel too sorry for USC football, which had 68 scholarship players to start the season, or about 10 less than most teams actually have since many teams do not use their full 85, including Pete Carroll.
Hey, Captain Context……how much revenue do all of those other sports bring to the university?…. like it or not, this is a business, Scottie……
What is the point of this post? I have been reading your site lately because I expect to possibly learn something about the football team that I may not get from sources like ESPN and every day I see and read things that you post that make me wonder how you ever got a job as a USC Beat writer or just a writer in general. Do you ever proofread what you post on here? My 10 year old cousin makes less grammatical errors.
i fully agree with our Sir Wolf-a-lot: why do we go so far into depth regarding the depth of the depth issue and not dive into the depth of those deep issues that have real depth in the sports without the same amount of said depth.
Mark Larsen?
if we dig a little deeper into the depth of the depth issue, we will see the depths to which we continue to dive when speaking about the depth.
perhaps i have not gone deep enough: let me explain. Sir Wolf is deeply worried that the depth of the depth that we have been deeply discussing has now be driven to depths that are beyond the depth of where we should be.
in other words, we have gone too deep to describe the depth of the depth of the chart. shouldn’t we stay closer to the surface, where things are less deep and clearer to anyone not at such depths?
depth should not be so deeply considered when depth is an issue at any depth. whether we are deep or at a depth not so deep as to be without breath.
and the breadth of the depth of what we have just discussed has now gotten us to such a deep depth that we can’t even see the surface for the sun. you know?
and so what Sir Scott is simply and deeply trying to delve into is the depth of HOW we discuss such depth and those matters concerning the depth.
And another thing, you keep making comments like “since many teams do not use their full 85, including Pete Carroll.”, why don’t you discuss the ongoing success of the SEC, compared with the Pac-12, because of historically OVERSIGNING players?
www[dot]si[dot]com/college-football/2014/02/12/recruiting-oversigning-mailbag
so let us go deeply into that discussion, but not so deeply that we privilege the depth above the depth of the discussion.
but you miss the point: the depth of Coach Carroll exceeds that depth with which we are deeply discussing the depth on this team that has too much depth without the depth of the Pac-12 teams who have been deeper.
and when 85 is deep, we must not say it is deeper than the depth of those teams who have the depth of the Pac-12 teams, who are just deep enough to supply depth where needed.
furthermore, 68 is deep. right? but without that depth, who is to say how deep we should be? you? i thought not.
so please, can we just let the depth be deeper than all of the bickering that we have been deeply set under that depth to which we have described.
i am out of breath considering the depth. but i will not adhere to those who do not deeply consider Sir Wolf’s depth when discussing the depth of the depth issue.
i am deeply disturbed at anyone who would even put 68’s depth, minus the 10 that are subtracted from the regular depth of 85 below the depths of any depth in the Pac-12.
it’s actually quite simple; don’t go to in depth. look, as Mr. WolfScott said, we often is USC winning the depth when UCLA can sign more depth than the depth that is offered to USC’s depth?
i ask you then: How often does depth beat depth on the brown strips of Coliseum grass? How often do those Cavorting Idiots steal the depth and try to use it against the depth of those who are deeply discussing the same depth?
and, if those same Cavorting Idiots recruit to the same depth, do we all deeply understand? I implore you to consider this along with Mr. Wolf’s deep issue regarding depth.
last question: does $6,597 AUTOMATICALLY give you depth? really. deeply consider that depth issue.
I say it does only when compared to the 11.7 feet of depth offered by the scholarships that come out of deep left field. OR, to a left fielder who offers depth behind the center fielder, who already plays deep.
that last point may have confused you. if depth of pocket is closer to the surface below the depth, then who is 11.7 feet for scholarship shoes. who has the deep pockets now??? why we have that depth. yes we do.
we want a depther, not a belly ither.
in conclusion, please don’t kill the depth of the deepness of those who think deeply about how much depth is needed. look at the depth of one’s own face in the deep deepness of the mirror and ask, “do i have depth?”
if not, then who are you to be as deep as that depth to which you have already given.
“In the depth of winter I finally learned that there was in me an invincible summer.” A. Camus
“It is not length of life, but depth of life.”
Ralph Waldo Emerson
“Well, I believe that the depth of your struggle can determine the height of your success. I was inspired to come out of everything I’ve been through and end up in a place where I never thought that I would be.”
R. Kelly
“I think you accidentally learn things in high school that turn out to be life lessons when you are able to step back a bit and study them in more depth.”
Megan Fox
so go forward, deep with depth.
Wolf, like it or not football is the big dog on just about every campus except Duke. I am sure the other coaches understand the pecking order of athletics and appreciate the money generated by football. This is actually a very stupid thread. What would baseball do with 68 scholies. Ask smart questions Wolf. In fact why don’t you have answers instead of so many dumb questions.
Scotty, you may want to re-do your math. #1 that does not account for room and board. #2 that only accounts for in-state student athletes. But then, that would require real research.
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As my good bud ‘sweetmumblebunny’ would say, “We need the Trojans to play to their depth level”.
Can’t fathom how this board has existed this long without his penetrating insights.
Hop On!
Fine job of moderation with the reader’s comments here, Daily News. Just like good editing for your reporters, it’s non-existent.
I know you won’t answer this Scott, because it’s a logical question and all. But how many scholarship players does USC practice with compared to other teams? How many underclassmen does USC practice with compared to other teams?
The football team is a lot more than the 11 guys you put on the field at any one time. (Though USC is certainly hurting in this category by having to play guys they would normally red shirt, etc.)
It’s the guys you practice with and against, day in and day out.
If you have 85 of those guys on scholarship, and a mix of under and upperclassmen, that’s the standard. USC does not have anywhere near that.
By the way, Lopes, the hard-working walk on you cited the other day to help your silly arguments is a safety. The scholarship players you cited were corners. But don’t let the details get in the way of your work, Scott.
I tried to come up with a list of reasons why it matters how sympathetic USC’s track, volleyball and baseball coaches are. Here’s what I’ve got so far:
Since we are on the subject of ncaa subjugation,what about doing away with their interference in private choices…if an athlete wants to go to a school,and the school wants to give them a scholarship…just do it…that would be the right thing to do;the ncaa has no business telling an athlete he cannot attend a school that wants him…their lack of any logic ,like in the way they apply their brand of justice needs to be done away with…period