Trade deadline review

Lombardi certainly didn’t do anything special at the trade deadline, but I liked the deals he did make. A second and a fourth for Stuart was as good as you can expect. That he got anything at all for Aubin was a minor miracle. You also have to include the recent Modry deal, which did well to net the Kings another third rounder. The deadline might be remembered more for the deals that weren’t made but, when it comes to Blake and Thornton, Lombardi was handcuffed. Granted, he may have put the handcuffs on himself by giving them no-trade clauses in their contracts. However, as he said in his interview, no-trade clauses have been running all the rage in the NHL the past few years. You have to figure he could have gotten for Blake the deal Colorado gave for Adam Foote — a conditional first-round pick. It’s less than he wanted, but perhaps he should have taken it. Basically, to justify not making that deal, he has to re-sign Blake to a reasonable contract in the offseason. Lombardi also was handcuffed by injuries when it came to guys like Nagy and Armstrong. I think the Kings should move Cammalleri in a deal for a promising, young defenseman. But perhaps this wasn’t the right time. There’s no reason that trade can’t wait until the offseason. For making solid deals for the future, though not nailing the big trade, I’d give Lombardi and the Kings a C+.

I’m interested in your take with these two polls …

What grade would you give Lombardi’s deadline dealing?

  
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Would you have taken the Foote deal (conditional first) for Blake?
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  • anthony

    40 years of waiting.
    If you’re poluted enough to believe in DL’s failed system, all you Dumbardi lovers should expect to wait another 40 years before POSSIBLY seing a Ring. Or until he gets fired.
    Whichever comes first.
    I would expect the latter.
    Carla Muller gave him an F.
    I give him a D-.

  • Gary B

    You’re right on with most of this. However, the determining factor for getting JJ was having Blake. Having Blake to keep and develop JJ is more important than another 1st pick. Also, do you really think Thornton has any value left, or is this wishful thinking? B+ on the deals, No to a Blake deal.

  • CBGB

    Lombardi on KingsTalk gave himself a C before this trade deadline – A 1st for Adam “injury prone” Foote? Colorado wanted Foote over Blake? Yeah, good look in the playoffs… IF you make the playoffs –

    Nobody know Thornton had a NTC –

    As for Cammy for a D-man, I’m surprised Lombardi opted for 4 more draft picks instead of a young D-man. You mean to tell me with all of the teams hurting for veteran D, none of them were willing to deal a D-man for Stuart.

    Sorry, I find that hard to believe.

    I also say that if Lombardi gives Blake anything more than a one year 3 million dollar deal, we’re going to have to change his name to Dumbardi.

  • Mike

    I don’t understand the Cammaleri comment. Of course, if you can get a bonafide blue chipper for him, trade him. But where can you find a young, 30+ goal scorer for 3.6 mil per year, which is what he makes next season? He’s a bargain, and a part of the team’s young core. I would be looking to sign him up long term before looking for a trade.

  • PSP

    C+?????

    Lombardi couldn’t do anything special at the deadline, but the reason why is entirely his fault – the handcuffs that he put on himself are inexcusable. Were No Trade Contracts the only way that he could get ANYONE to play here?

    …and why would ANYONE give Thornton a NTC?

    You can’t look at the trade deadline transactions in a vacuum. Lombardi signed 2nd or 3rd tier FA players who no one else wanted and then he couldn’t get more for them at the deadline because they didn’t perform during the season. Add on top of that the ridiculous signings of Cloutier, Willsie, McCauley, etc and the talk of re-signing Blake and Thornton…. this isn’t going to get better anytime soon.

    Lombardi gets an F for yesterday.

  • crownme

    well i htink he did all he could with what he had.. some of our players just didnt bring much value to other teams..other players just didnt want to leave.. im pleased with the modry deal so i gave him a C.. lets see what he does on draft day…

  • Hockey guy

    Matt (or anyone that voted “no” in the Foote poll), how could anyone vote no on that? I mean if you got to 11:59 and all they offered you was a 3rd rounder TAKE THAT!!! What good is the last 2 months of Rob Blake to you? We aren’t gonna make the playoffs so who cares. He’s gonna be UFA so if you want him back, just sign him again.

    The bottom line is Blake effed us by ONLY allowing a trade to 2 teams … 2 teams that DID NOT WANT HIM. But to hem and haw about “is a conditional 1st rounder enough” is silly. OF COURSE IT IS. A bag of pucks is worth more than nothing, which is pretty much what we are left with.

  • steve

    I am getting sick of all of these people making excuses for Dumbardi saying he did the best with what he had.
    Remember he signed these stiffs that he could not trade.

    I wanted to see him pick up a 26 or 27 year old Defenseman. Kinda do a Philly make a few deals to pick up guys that will help next year. Furthermore, I dont believe this Dumbardi has no assests to deal stuff. They are stacked with forwards. He could have dealt Cammy. He is a big time chip that would have brought a legit defenseman. This would have told me that Dumbardi is planning to win next year. Sadly he picked up assets that will not vest until after he is fired.

    I can hear the refrain from Dumbardi now “We are putting together a reserve list.” Nice… meanwhile Burke is put together CUPS

    Get ready for a long wait for the playoffs folks. The Ducks will have won two more cups by the time Dumbardi gets us in the playoffs

  • Anonymous

    Geez, everyong is acting like trading Blake was going to get the Kings a bonafide star or the #1 pick. Then everyone complains that all we got for Stuart was picks.

    Then the absolutely hysterical “bag of pucks” reference is made time and time again.

    Get real folks.

    For the first time in the Kings’ existence the pipeline looks strong and is going to get stronger. Also for the first time in this club’s history there actually seems to be a plan in the works. A plan that considers both the short term and the long term future of the franchise.

    If you want bandaids on the problem and early playoff exits then fine, let’s go back to the Kings management of old.

    As for me, I’m all for effective rebuilding and stockpiling assets so that you can both build from within and make meaningful acquistions.

    Is Lombardi perfect? No, he makes mistakes (see Cloutier).

    But to get on him for the Handzus, Nagy, Calder and Thornton pick-ups is nonsense. Even when you are rebuilding you need to put a team on the ice that can compete each and every night, and this team in my opinion – featuring the likes of the aforementioned pick-ups – has been competitive.

    But you obviously need to be more than competitive to advance to the post season and win championships, and I feel Lombardi’s plan gets the Kings to that next phase, perhaps as early as next season.

  • EncinoMan

    I believe with Matt’s assessment for the most part.

    I find it amusing that everyone who was down on the Kings playing the Calders, Thorntons, Wilsies, etc. because they were no good and took away valuable playing time from some of the kids…..are the same people who in the next breath, thought we should be able to get something valuable in return from them on deadline day.

  • PSP

    Anonymous, you and I have a much different definition of “competitive”.

    IMO, DEAD LAST in the NHL is not “competitive”

  • http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/10287-Proteaus-Blog-Wacky-weekend.html Gavin

    Sometimes I don’t understand you people. Were Nagy, Handzus, Calder and Preissing as impressive a haul as Drury and Gomez? Or Hannan and Smyth? No. Fine. But people saying laughably inaccurate things like, “Lombardi signed 2nd or 3rd tier FA players who no one else wanted” is just sad. The Hockey News gave Lombardi and the Kings a B+ for their FA signings, noting that they, “Didn’t land a big fish, but gained needed scoring punch.”

    Did it pan out that way? No. But shit, virtually every analyst out there thought that the signings he got were solid, big upside, relatively small risk (short contracts) and a good choice for the Kings. In that specific set of ratings, there are only 3 teams rated higher for their FA signings. That’s hardly signing players, “nobody else wanted.”

    I’m not going to claim that these players have performed even near where they should have and where we all obviously hoped they would. I’m also not going to claim Lombardi hasn’t made some big mistakes (Cloutier? Blake’s contract?) but damn, at least get pissed at the guy for LEGIT mistakes, and not just selective memories based on mis-stated facts…

  • Mike

    I agree with you on this one Matt. If you really decipher Lombardi’s answer to the last question yesterday, you see that he’s almost cryptically giving away how he plans to re-shape the defense.

    I think that at the end of the day (or in our case, draft day), The Kings will not have all of the draft picks they currently possess and they will probably not have Cammalleri on their roster. But hey, Montreal, Toronto, Atlanta, Nashville all have good to great young defensemen.

  • Kevin

    I realize Lombardi likes his grades, but the best we can give him is an incomplete. He traded for picks and now we have to wait until the draft before we can see what he does with these picks.

  • Bruce

    Why didnt the ducks just claim JS on waivers two weeks ago?

  • PSP

    So Gavin – let me get this straight: These were good pickups because the analysts said they were, regardless of the results? The FACTS are that no one else felt they were of any value NOW because they haven’t performed AT ALL this season.

    Go to the CBC website and listen to the Satellite Hotstove from Feb 16 – Handzus was allegedly bragging to his buddies that he got a sweetheart deal from the Kings when no one else was offering ANYTHING.

    …and Handzus got a 4 year, $16mil NO TRADE CONTRACT – hardly short term.

    Show me results, not someone’s opinion of what might be, and I’ll come here and praise them.

  • Featuring Rudy Ray Moore as FROLO-MITE!!!!

    I wish Lombardi could have traded Anonymous for a bag of pucks yesterday…or Kwame Brown

  • PSP

    So Gavin – let me get this straight: These were good pickups because the analysts said they were, regardless of the results? The FACTS are that no one else felt they were of any value NOW because they haven’t performed AT ALL this season.

    Go to the CBC website and listen to the Satellite Hotstove from Feb 16 – Handzus was allegedly bragging to his buddies that he got a sweetheart deal from the Kings when no one else was offering ANYTHING.

    …and Handzus got a 4 year, $16mil NO TRADE CONTRACT – hardly short term.

    Show me results, not someone’s opinion of what might be, and I’ll come here and praise them.

  • Anonymous

    PSP – Definitely not arguing with you – I hate losing too – but what I am saying is that the Kings have been competing this season, in what is truly a rebuilding year (I know, a term we are all tired of).

    There have not been many games where the team is completely outclassed or totally flat which you would expect in a rebuilding year.

    Last overall is certainly not where I expected this team, but the horrific month of December did them in.

    Hang in there my fellow fan. I realize your tagline of “Resident Pessimist” is there for a reason – you’ve suffered long enough – but I think you will be rewarded for your patience!

  • anthony

    Is this true.
    Does Handzus also have a No Trade Clause in his contract.

    Matt or anybody, can somebody look into this.

  • Mark

    Do we all forget that Phoenix went from zero goalies at the beginning of the season to owning Bryz and Al Montoya? Even when they said they weren’t going to make any big moves they ended up doing more good then the Kings. How many more nose picks does Lombardi need before he strikes gold?

  • metalmaster

    Congratulations Brokeback
    (or are you really Anthony)
    you just made the dumbest post I have ever seen on this board. I am no fan of
    DL but to call him the worst GM in NHL history is
    freaking absurd. He is not even the worst GM in L.A.
    Kings history. Ever here of
    George Maguire? There are
    some legitimate things to
    bash DL for but the worst ever. You obviously know
    jackshit about hockey. You
    should probably jump on
    the Laker bandwagon.B-ball
    is the perfect sport for you to follow since one
    transaction can make or break your franchise as
    opposed to hockey where you
    actually have to build a TEAM.

  • kingsfan28

    “He’s not only the worse G.M. in this organiztion. But the worse G.M. in the history of the NHL”

    Really…you know if you did a little research, you’d find about 50 guys way ahead of DL. I bet he wouldn’t even make the list.
    i ‘ll give you a few guys to start out with.
    Mike Millbury
    Glen Sather
    Mike Keenan
    John Ferguson
    Kevin Lowe

  • Rodney King

    We’re all Kings fans…Can’t we all just get along???

  • kingkongkorab

    Anybody bashing DL at this point should have their head examined, just what are you guys expecting?? Thornton is a filler if that. If he would have waived his NTC we would have gotten a 5-6 rounder…big deal. With Bernier struggling in the minors we need D-men and a goalie. DL’s interview stated we are weak on the back end and he new that when he took the job. It takes time to find and build from within. As much as I would want Stampkos we are probably better served to pick some of those D-men right behind Stamps. We need to trade Cammy and a package (in the off season or next yr) to get either a veteran d-man or goaile, because I doubt we will get any of those vet’s thru free agency because of our standings in the league.
    DL is our guy for now, 100%.

  • Lon Weeks

    People let me put all those draft picks to rest. The GM needs them to fill up the farm system. What farm system you ask? AEG is building a 10,000 seat miniture StapleCenter in Ontario, Ca. Which is going to be home to the kings Ontario Reigns. Opens for the 08-09 season. Some of those draftpicks just might end up. Those of you you live so-cal can go watch for half price. Which opens the doorfor all the grippers tostart in on GM about wasting picks

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