DENIED: Rio Hondo League loses appeal to not move to Central Division …

At least the Rio Hondo League tried.

In what seemed like a real long shot move Wednesday morning, the league consisting of Blair, La Canada, Monrovia, San Marino, South Pasadena and Temple City, appealed the CIF-Southern Section’s proposed placement of the league in the Central Division on grounds that it didn’t make sense based on both geography or competitive equity.

The verdict? The nine-member Southern Section Playoff Groupings Appeals Committee voted 7-0-2 to deny the appeal and unless the league wants to try its hand with another appeal at the Southern Section Council level, area fans can expect to see the Rio Hondo League in the Central Division beginning this fall.

“I think it’s pretty tough to get an appeal approved,” Monrovia athletic director Randy Bell said following Wednesday’s decision. “It’s just the nature of the beast. They put a lot of work into figuring out what they’re doing. It’s kind of a two-pronged thing when you make your appeal.

“You have to give your data that you feel makes your appeal valid and you also have to come up with an alternative solution. The complexity of that task is just ridiculous. To come up with a solution that doesn’t knock over a bunch of dominoes and effect a bunch of others schools is really difficult.”

In addition to the Rio Hondo League, the Central Division will consist of the Hacienda, Mt. Baldy, Palomares and Sunkist leagues. Much of the reason why the entire Rio Hondo League got bumped up is because of Monrovia’s domination of the Mid-Valley Division.

The Wildcats won three consecutive Mid-Valley Division championships between 2010-12. And with San Marino having some recent success, the league looked ripe for a boost in playoff competition. Of course, had the league decided to move Monrovia out during the last re-leaguing cycle, all of this might have been avoided.

“If we’re talking hypothetically, if Monrovia was no longer in the Rio Hondo League, I think the Rio Hondo League would still be in the Mid-Valley Division,” Bell said. “But that being said, re-leaguing is a bigger deal especially for the schools and the league as a whole. And I struggle to agree with folks who say football should drive re-leaguing.

“The Rio Hondo League’s attitude is not that Monrovia needs to go. Monrovia has been the dominant team in football, but it’s South Pas in volleyball and San Marino and La Canada in swimming. You have to take everything into account.”

Bell said the Rio Hondo League’s enrollment argument centered around the fact that the Rio Hondo League’s average enrollment is 1,400 students compared to the smallest average of the other four teams in the division being 2,200.

The league also submitted average roster size for the past two years, and the Rio Hondo League average was 41 whereas the other leagues were in the 50s and 60s, according to Bell.

As for competitive equity, the Rio Hondo League argued that its 30-32 overall record against the rest of the Mid-Valley Division over the past four years shows it’s already in the right division. And if one subtracts Monrovia’s success from those numbers, the rest of the league has actually underwhelmed.

The Rio Hondo League’s alternative proposal was to move the Alpha League, now called the Gold Coast League, into the Central Division instead.

“We felt we had a pretty good enrollment and competitive equity argument, but really what CIF is looking at is the competitive equity and the top of the Rio Hondo League for the past several years has been really competitive,” Bell said. “It’s hard to say what our next move will be. I know CIF kinda hopes leagues will give it a couple years and let it play out. And if they need to make a change, they’ll make a change. We completely understand the difficulty of their job as well.”

  • New York

    This is excellent progress. It might hurt in the short term, but it seems to be a needed step to force Monrovia out of the Rio Hondo League.

    Where can we find the teams that are in each league for 2014?

    • 626

      I wonder if the brass at Monrovia would truly consider leaving the RHL. Honestly, I don’t see it. It’s going to take a lot of pressure from alums and parents to make that happen…and I mean a lot.

      • New York

        I am not familiar with the situation. I just hope for the best.

        • 626

          See what I mean NY:

          “But that being said, re-leaguing is a bigger deal especially for the schools and the league as a whole. And I struggle to agree with folks who say football should drive re-leaguing.

          “The Rio Hondo League’s attitude is not that Monrovia needs to go. Monrovia has been the dominant team in football, but it’s South Pas in volleyball and San Marino and La Canada in swimming. You have to take everything into account.”

          • New York

            Yeah, I’m not a fan of the soft approach nor of the appeal. I wish the RHL would have recognized the inevitable and just embraced it. Pretty soon the students are gonna start believing the doubt that their administrators are conveying. I don’t like it at all!

          • 626

            To be honest, I had a little bit of insight from the RHL AD meetings. Monrovia, and the rest of the RHL, had and have NO intentions of changing a thing. I take that back. They did want CV to join (though SM and Blair were against that), especially because the RHL sees Blair as a potential total loss in the next few years. But once that backfired when Arcadia and Hoover tried to join, they just stuck with the status quo at the Foothill Area releaguing meeting and they didn’t even support the CV AD when she put her proposal forward, like they initially said they were going to do.

            I’m telling you right now…the 2-league RHL/Pacific Conference is the way to go. But the schools don’t have the ba*** or the creativity to make it work.

  • The truth and nothing but…

    I can’t wait to find out how good Monrovia really is.

    • Mean Joe Green

      Truth, Monrovia IS really good. The question is whether or not they are good enough to compete in the larger divisions. Sugar Ray Leonard was REALLY good, but could he knock out Muhammad Ali? That my friend is an entirely different question. Monrovia needed to move out of the league and into the Central Division. They did not need to bring the league crash dummies with them.

      • AramT

        I know for a fact that several East SGV teams can’t wait to get their hands on Monrovia. I do think the Cats have several players on the roster who would start just about anywhere in the Valley, so they should be okay. But I also know that if the No. 3 team out of the Hacienda or Palomares draws Monrovia in the first round, they won’t be shaking in their cleats.

        • Mean Joe Green

          One thing is for sure. We will see some of the best football in the SGV this year than we have in previous years. I am excited.

          • AramT

            I think deep down what you Monrovia heads are sweating is that your talent is gonna start getting distributed if the postseason isn’t so kind. We all know how the rest of the Valley can pillage the Monrovia/Duarte talent base.

          • New York

            That thought did not even cross MY mind, quite frankly. With our continually improving facilities now the opportunity to play in a better division, I thought the opposite.

          • Mean Joe Green

            I’m with New York, the thought has never crossed my mind. The only thing I am upset about is that we took the rest of the league with us. If you are going to put us in a more difficult division then grant us the courtesy of putting us in a more challenging league. Split the crash dummies up across the division so that we can sharpen our swords before the playoffs.

          • New York

            Exactly! Playing tough games and losing two or three games between weeks 1-10 is very valuable in exposing areas that need to be fixed!

        • New York

          Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what. Let’s see who wins CIF other than Charter Oak. As far as I am concerned, Charter Oak is the only public school in the valley, East or West, that has legitimate bragging rights. Every other team since 2003 has been the benefactor of favorable divisions. Now we are all thrown together so let’s see what team is the winner.

          • AramT

            You got a lot more to worry about than Charter Oak. Monrovia’s dynasty teams were all-out to beat the Glendoras and South Hills of the world. Now those teams are on the upswing while Monrovia may be down a bit from the 2010-12 teams.

            I just want to know how the M-Town contingent will handle it if their team is a league champ, top-four seed, and then gets beat first round by the No.3 out of the Hacienda or Palomares. That could happen.

          • New York

            How did Coach K at Duke handle getting beaten in the first round? With class and humility, just as we carry ourselves in victory.

            Monrovia won some weak divisions, just as South Hills did ten years ago. So what. It will be good for all these teams to play on a regular basis. I just wish Monrovia were in a better league. Not having much competition after weak five hast hurt our development for the past 20 years.

          • Not Since 1995

            Tacos at my house homie. With beans and rice. Hahahahahahahahaha

          • New York

            Considering that West Covina was eliminated in the first round last year, I’d say there is no shame in getting eliminated in the first round in an even tougher division. These types of schools will have up years and down years in the playoffs. The difference is that tougher leagues expose a team earlier than the first round of the playoffs. That is where Monrovia is at a disadvantage.

          • New York

            Glendora must be licking their chops. They haven’t been in a division without Upland in many years! Prior to CO winning their Sierra League Championships, it was Glendora winning them. Glendora was the Sierra League champ losing in the second round to Upland.
            I envision a potential CIF championship at Citrus College as a rematch of the Mayor’s Cup…

          • Not Since 1995

            I will put my money on the Kilpatrick mustangs… Urghhhh, I mean Monrovia wildcats.

          • New York

            who?

          • Nomoredrama

            Kilpatrick Mustangs is the name of the football team from Camp Kilpatrick, a juvenile detention center. They were the subject of the movie “The Grid Iron Gang”.

          • New York

            I don’t like that and will not engage with stupidity.

          • Nomoredrama

            I agree, whole heartedly!

    • New York

      Me too!

      • Not Since 1995

        Me too. Looks like they will enjoy thanksgiving dinner with me and my huskies of chino hills. The tacos my mamas it’s makes are great.

        • New York

          I’d prefer Prime Rib, but I am open.

  • reality

    The ones being hurt are the rest of the programs in the Rio Hondo. They don”t seem to have much interest in sports, football particularly. Monrovia obviously is good and should be quite successful in the new division. This does not change Monrovia’s total domination of the Rio Hondo League. That’s what needed changing.

    • New York

      Monrovia is “hurt” by staying in the RHL but then needing to prepare for good teams in the playoffs.

  • voizofreason

    It’s one thing to hire a coach from division 12 if you expect to play in division 11 but I gotta believe they are kicking themselves now. The coach isn’t going to look across the field and see teams showing up with 28 players anymore!!!

    • New York

      Coach Haggerty at Bishop Amat started off in a small division as well. Coaches have to start somewhere.

      • AMAT 73

        New York,
        Yes but he cut his teeth at AMAT .

        • New York

          Yes. From AMAT down to Paraclete and then successful all the way back up. Great coaches start somewhere. I hope Stevens does well.

  • Run-n-Gun

    My how the mighty have fallen. QB Bryant has transferred to St Francis. Wonder who else is going transfer. One and done in the playoffs for sure. Their only saving grace is their league but to be honest San Marino has a young gun slinger back there. Kid is darn good. Bet they win league and end the dynasty.

    • Mean Joe Green

      Did you just say QB Bryant? Since when was he the Wildcat QB? He lost his position to a sophomore QB who will be around for two years. No real net loss for the Cats. Trust me.

      • New York

        Easy. Saying that Bryant is not a net loss will lose a lot of credibility. He has huge upside.
        Transfers out and in are what they are. They have been happening far longer than these blogs have been around. We move on and wish them all the best.

        • Mean Joe Green

          I never questioned his ability or his potential. I questioned 626′s belief that he was our QB and our future. By saying that there is no net loss, I am saying that whatever hole he created in his departure will be quickly filled with the immense amount of talent on the squad. No ONE player on Monrovia is indispensable to the squad. The strength of the team right now is the threat they all pose collectively. It will be hard to cover and account for all the talent on the field. It will be a scheming nightmare this year for our opponents because there is no ONE single threat they can scout.

          • 626

            MJG, it wasn’t me who said it, but I do agree with NY…you continue to move forward, even though you’d love to keep the kid.

          • Mean Joe Green

            626 I agree with you. I thought the kid had a lot of upside and could be groomed into a great QB. I don’t understand why he would not have at least attempted to compete for the position. Coaching could not have been the issue, because we have a new guy at the reins and Bryant announced his departure as early as January. Both mom and dad have stakes in the Monrovia community so its hard to decipher why. Exposure is never an issue with Monrovia. Our athletes get plenty of it. Competition would be the only factor, and now with the new division alignments, that is no longer an issue. I wish the kid all the best of luck. However, as you said, “we continue and move forward”.

          • New York

            As much as I love Monrovia, I can’t argue with a QB with academic blood wanting to play for Coach Bonds at St. Francis. Look what St. Francis did last year against Serra and Chaminade. Clearly outmatched, they played very good games against two of the state’s best teams. That is coaching and dedication.

            Besides, it is anyone’s guess what a family’s circumstances might be.

            I will say this, from my standpoint the Central Division is tougher than the remaining Southeast Division.

          • 626

            You might be right about which is tougher, though it may be closer than you think. It’s a fun argument though. I think Maxpreps needs to leave the designation of numeral divisions up to Calpreps, because they currently have the new Southeast ranked D3 and the new Central ranked D8. That doesn’t sense at all.

            IMO…Top teams in the new Central (in no particular order):

            Charter Oak
            Glendora
            West Covina
            Monrovia
            Colony
            Summit
            Kaiser
            South Hills
            Bonita
            Diamond Ranch

            Top teams in the new Southeast (in no particular order):

            La Serna
            Norwalk
            Muir
            St. Francis
            Cathedral
            La Mirada
            Dominguez
            Salesian
            Harvard-Westlake
            Downey
            Burbank

          • TruTH

            Top teams in new Central Division (in order)
            1. Charter Oak
            2. Glendora
            3. Colony
            4. Los Altos
            5. Monrovia
            6. Summit
            7. South Hills
            8. West Covina
            9. Diamond Bar
            10. Ayala

          • Not even

            Monrovia at #5? lol

          • New York

            Los Altos at #4?

          • TruTH

            The reason why I am putting Los Altos at 4 is due to their success last season in the Hacienda. They are returning arguably the best offensive and defensive line in the area as well as most of their defense. Offensively they lose Marcos, however, with their offensive line it won’t be hard finding someone that can run through those holes.

          • New York

            I think it is laughable that Maxreps would consider that group to be the third toughest in the Southern Section.

          • observantcat

            MJG, You’re very right about the fact that Monrovia hadn’t decided who their QB might be, and as far as Bryant was concerned there are plenty of positions on the field that he could have been a standout player, one being a LB he’s got the size and the grit to play that position well. Being a father of an athlete is a tough task and wanting the best for your son is probably one of the hardest things to deal with when you believe that he deserves first dibs at any position. I hope Bryant well over at St. Francis, he will win both on and off the field either way. Genius is instilled in the Bryant blood, Monrovia will be fine this coming season and will surprise a lot of doubters in terms of overall team spirit and team skill. As for the Line NY, they are young but they are Big. My hope is that our DC brings together a rough group of guys to keep other teams off the field.

          • New York

            I hope our newly elevated assistant coaches will instill a similar mentality as our teams had in the late 1990′s when the environment was not as patty-cake as has become the trend. I hope the school leadership understands what it takes to win and prepare for the real world where trophies and accolades are not handed out freely.

    • observantcat

      Run-N-Gun, you certainly have no clue what Monrovia is Bringing this year in terms of QB, Bryant isn’t leaving because he is better than Zamora, it
      is quit the reverse, so if you think that the Cats are loosing players you would be sadly mistaken, Monrovia has a couple of guys that are making a move from a couple of the Private schools (Hint) OC’s best that will be making a tremendous difference on the receiver corp. So don’t think for a minute that we are going backwards, we’re just beginning.

      • AramT

        Observantcat,

        You don’t need anymore WR types. Loaded there.

        • Mean Joe Green

          I kind of agree there. If we are going to have a shot going deep in the playoffs, we need an offensive line. It does us no good having a bunch of WRs sitting on the bench. If last year taught us anything it should be that speed does not always kill.

          • 4peat

            i really really agree..gonna get my lil cuzin murdered..out there..lol

          • Theblue&gold

            Only thing you guys are going to go deep in is your own delusional BS

          • Mean Joe Green

            If we get knocked out the first round, one thing I can be certain of is that Bishop Amat fans will be there to console me. Please help me cope with getting knocked out the first round. You guys have sooooo much experience with it.

        • New York

          I certainly agree with that.

      • AMAT 73

        Ocat,
        Come on man , if you have them just say where they came from . What is the point of being so hushed up on where they are from . And no matter what or how you want to play up Zamora who I am sure is a great kid and player , Mason leaving MTown is quite a shocker considering how much KB stands up for MTown on this blog .

        • Valley Athletics

          Zamora is a good player . Would of been Amats back up if he wouldn’t of left . He made good decision leaving Amat . With Garcia there he would of been competing with Ryder Ruiz for backup position .

        • Mean Joe Green

          Let me set the record straight about Zamora. There is a lot of talk and opinions about a kid that no one knows anything about. First, Zamora did not get beat out by Garcia for the QB position at Amat. Zamora broke his arm his first year and had to sit out. The next year he transferred to Monrovia. There was never a competition between the two quarterbacks. I am sure that Garcia is a good kid, but there is absolutely no comparison between him and the football acumen, and accuracy of Zamora. Not a single comparison. This is not only an opinion I hold myself, this is also shared by Amat coaches who have all expressed disappointment that Zamora left. Any Amat parent/fan that is at practice everyday knows that you guys are in trouble at the QB position. Believe it or not, people do leave precious Bishop Amat for other reasons than football. Trust me when I say that Zamora’s departure had nothing to do with the thought that Garcia was better than him. So rather than bloggers shoot off about rumors and gossip, I implore you to go to an Amat practice and see first hand your predicament. You have stellar, 5 star receivers with no one to get them the ball. That’s like having a Ferrari in your garage with no gas to take it for a drive.

          • Theblue&gold

            Yeah, I’m sure he left because he was the better QB. (LOL)
            If Garcia is so bad but Zamora couldn’t beat him out, just think how bad the QB situation in Monrovia Land is going to be this year, especially when it comes playoff time and you have to play teams with talent.

          • Mean Joe Green

            You speak of matters you know nothing about. You apparently never saw a single BA practice. If you had you are either delusional or a liar. You didn’t even make it to the playoffs with Koa and pretty much the same team. Do you really believe that Garcia is better than Koa? I always find it funny when Bishop fans use the word ‘delusional’. The definition of delusional is a team that has not gotten past the first round in the playoffs in years and its fans have the nerve to disparage the fans of teams that have won multiple championships in the recent past.

          • Theblue&gold

            Why would you have been at any of our practices last year when you are clearly a Monrovia delusional homer. Could it be you wanted to see what a REAL VARSITY FOOTBALL TEAM looks like? as compared to that Jr. All American Team of yours. To answer your question, no, at this point in time Garcia is not better then Koa, but all the returners are a year more mature and will carry the team. In addition, I can absolutely guarantee you our Quarter Back is considerably better then yours.

          • Mean Joe Green

            Yeah the big 5th grader that is getting bullied by all the other 5th graders. At least we are the kings of our classroom. You guys can’t buy your way into a playoff.

          • observantcat

            EXACTLY! Thats what the Amat Football players look like to the rest of the PAC5….Now you get it.

    • 626

      Wait. What!? Bryant transferred? I thought pops was Mr. Monrovia. Wow. What happened?

      • AramT

        Has anyone considered that some or all of this has to do with the fact that St. Francis is poised to go on several long postseason runs in the Southeast Division? Fred has already said if they don’t win a couple titles it will be a disappointment. St Francis winning championships and getting ink well into December will blow that place up for would-be transfers. You watch.

        • Valley Athletics

          Having dylan Crawford and a tightend with D 1 offers is a good for any QB . What if also he recruits other Monrovia kids to jump ship .

          • AramT

            What if they just simply win the Southeast? That will attract enough talent right there … maybe not even from as far as Monrovia either … maybe from Altadena.

          • New York

            The real interesting matchup on the horizon is St. Francis vs. Muir, now that they are back in the same division. This has to be the lowest divisional placement that St. Francis has ever had. I don’t care that the Southeast is supposedly “Division 3″…NO WAY! Definitely not the third toughest division.

        • Kennedy Bryant

          There seems to be a lot of non-sense floating around over the occurrences of the past few days. Most of you are opining about stuff with no basis in facts. So let me try and level set here, Miles Bryant’s transfer to ST Francis are due to BRYANT family personal reasons that will not be discussed or disclosed on this Blog.
          However what I can and will share with you all is this:
          It is not due to coaching changes and MHS.
          It is not due to Monrovia being moved to a higher division in football
          It is not due to competition at QB
          It is not due to me being relegated to the stands and no longer being on the sideline
          It is not due to most of the silly rumors and conjecture that has been written here; let me add some of the speculation and assumptions are just way off base and quite frankly ignorant.
          There is something else you should all know I BLEED GREEN and WHITE and that will never change my love for Monrovia High is just as strong as ever and will never change. I wish Coach Stevens and the rest of the MHS football and baseball family nothing but the best and I’ll be rooting for them every week and every game. I have known Coaches on that MHS staff for almost 50 years and each of them know that I love and care for them and friends. (Donald Davis, Kevin Scott, Anthony Craft and Donnell Walls and Coach Tom) I love those gives and love what they do help build character in young men as well as football players. But they also know I LOVE MILES BRYANT MORE.

          In the Bryant house athletics is secondary and Academics reigns supreme. I’ll take and Ivy League education over a Pac 12 or SEC championship any day of the week. So please respect a father’s choice to do what he feels is in the best interest of his child. So keep speculating all you want but it is my job to put Miles in a position to be successful in LIFE.

          • Mean Joe Green

            First of all let me say that I understand a father’s defense of his child and the good name of his family. I wouldn’t put too much weight behind the hearsay, rumors and ramblings of us dumb bloggers. That is what we do here. A bunch of “know it alls” passing judgement on the abilities of someone else’s child. Nothing personal. I appreciate you taking the time to correct us and set the record straight. Not that any of us or this blog is worth it, but thanks anyway. Good luck with all your future endeavors, and I wish Miles the best of luck. The great work you did with his brother is a testament of where your family priorities are.

          • 4peat

            yeah i just heard he went there for baseball! so did monrovia head baseball coach..! what r the chances..of that..lol

  • New York

    All these clowns and sportswriters talking about one-and-done…look who was one-and-done in the Southeast last year: WEST COVINA, La Mirada, Downey, Diamond Ranch, among others. Like all the other programs, Monrovia will have up years and down years for playoff success. I just hope that CIF leaves Monrovia in the same division as the majority of the strong ESGV public schools for the next 15-20 years so we can all have our chance for the talent cycles to go through.

  • 626

    The Monrovia AD Randy Bell just confirmed what many Monrovia fans don’t want to hear: the ‘Cats aren’t going anywhere and they will remain in the RHL for the foreseeable future.

    I don’t see the RHL staying in the Central for too long.

    And I would LOVE to hear what Coach Hobbie at San Marino thinks about all of this. He was complaining about enrollment figures in the Mid-Valley division!

    • AramT

      If I could somehow retweet a post, that would be it … especially the last part. Hobbie really isn’t from around here because I can remember three years ago when SM started off with a good record and had played nobody, he was bragging about beating teams with higher enrollments. Means absolutely nothing in SoCal unless you’re talking about teams east of the 57.

  • Valley Athletics

    I really don’t think Monrovia will have a problem . charter looks to be a favorite , but who knows after losing that good D line from last couple years .Glendora has some good players and will be better , but can they handle speed of Monrovia . West Co and D Ranch lost in first round .will they be better ? Who knows. Diamond bar can surprise people. They lost broadus but return bell,noodles ,Hayes ,lamb and Peterson . A lot skill like Monrovia .

    • PatrickHT

      Lamb is gone!

      • Valley Athletics

        Heard he gone to Gorman also , but nobody had confirmed it .

      • Valley Athletics

        Heard Cameron Hayes transfered to Serra .

  • AMAT 73

    Ocat,
    As I said Zamora is a great kid and a solid player , but something told him to leave AMAT and it looks like it will work out for him which is all that matters . Now it seems those OC Private transfers are not quite in the bag just yet . Can you think of any reason a top player of a PAC – 5 team if in fact the schools are in the PAC-5 would leave there to go to Monrovia ( not a knock ) especially with them going to a new division , new coach , and not as much visibility as one OC’s best as you put it ? Just seems strange and especially when you factor in at WR you guys are loaded at the position . By the way any word on our favorite MIA , GP ? He’s been missing since that loss to Clete in the playoffs . I thought for sure he would resurface with all this buzz on MTown . And you could still tell us from which school they would be coming from either way .

    • observantcat

      Amat 73, it’s becoming the norm now for kids to realize their potential isn’t always judged by being in the PAC 5, Sydney would have been offered Scholarships from all of the schools that are looking at him now no matter where he decided to attend his high school career, Holmes transferred back over to John Muir high school and is, was, and still getting looks by some of the top colleges in the country, and as much as we want to discuss Kurt Scoby attending Monrovia High school for his senior year, he could have gone to any school and made the same headlines. I understand PAC5 football here in So. Cal means a lot to some high school football fans but it doesn’t guarantee talent will be above average for every squad, If Amat had Monrovia’s skill players for the past 5 years, trust me they would have gone deep into the PAC playoffs with more to show than a PAC 5 patch on their lettermen’s jacket. As far as an athlete that chooses to attend to another school maybe for

      • Valley Athletics

        Not really the skill players that would of helped Amat . It’s players like McCarthy and Walsh . amat has always had the skilled guys. Those big defensive players is what hurts Amat .

        • Mean Joe Green

          I hate to be the bearer of bad news to some guys who love to lean on the PAC-5 as a measure for talent. The Pac-5 is NOT a measure of talent. It is a measure of competition which is two separate things. If it were a measure of talent, then Amat would have far more D1 signees coming out of its school each year then Monrovia. Which it does not. How can a small school in a small division get D1 signees year after year? Because of talent not competition. College scouts do not seek out competition, they seek out talent. Which is why some kids who cannot afford the tuition of some of the precious PAC-5 schools still get looks from colleges.

          • Valley Athletics

            Agree . But that is why the camps , 7on7 are good for . Most kids get noticed from the camps they attend . But schools like Monrovia and la mirada like to boast that they get kids the offers . Playing in the PAC 5 just prepares you better for the jump . In some cases playing in PAC 5 does get you noticed . Trevon and Tyler both got there first offer at end of season because of the performance in the PAC 5 level . Later on there performance at 7on7 really blew them up .

          • Mean Joe Green

            True.

  • Valley Athletics

    It’s easy to say he would of been competing for job at Amat because he is not there . The fact is he had 2 years to beat out Garcia and did not do it . Garcia got the nod to move up to varsity and Zamora was left on Jv to battle against Ruiz for starting position . Zamora left a week before school started knowing it would be hard for him to beat out Garcia .

    • observantcat

      Valley Athletics,
      Thats the beauty of being a High School Athlete, to push themselves as far as they can to get to the next level. Zamora has been training way before high school to try and compete on a higher level and this is probably his coming out year. Amat has players that have done the same and perhaps experienced sooner growth in a position that best suites them at the moment. I’ve watched freshman players who some thought would never have a chance to play on the Varsity level come out in their sophomore years and make a statement and end up going forward with their college careers. It’s sometimes hard to gauge how good you are unless you are around players that can bring out your best.

      • New York

        Heck, my college QB became a starter as a senior, beating our a returning senior who was a two-year starter!

      • Valley Athletics

        That is why it’s. Good decision for Zamora transferring . He was going to back up a good Qb . Zamora could start at any school , he has excellent leadership skills and works hard . Garcia is just that good and will show it this year . If Zamora and Garcia where both taller they would be highly recruited .

      • Former Wildcat

        Oh please, don’t make me laugh. Next level? The kid is all of 5’9″ standing on his tippy toes. Bryant is taller, faster, stronger arm and has better DNA which would have assured him of the starting spot had he stayed. I saw Zamora in 7 v 7 this past year and wasn’t at all impressed. I feel bad for the kid because his dad has some serious unrealistic expectations.

        • Mean Joe Green

          Former Wildcat is obviously not a Present Wildcat, because if you were then you would have seen the practices and the games where both kids competed for the role. I think a coach with three rings is astute enough to make the right decision. Which he did. There is a lot of talk about a program that not a single person has any insight into.

  • TruTH

    What is Monrovia’s preseason schedule?

  • Kennedy Bryant

    There seems to be a lot of non-sense floating around over the occurrences of the past few days. Most of you are opining about stuff with no basis in facts. So let me try and level set here, Miles Bryant’s transfer to ST Francis are due to BRYANT family personal reasons that will not be discussed or disclosed on this Blog.
    However what I can and will share with you all is this:
    It is not due to coaching changes and MHS.
    It is not due to Monrovia being moved to a higher division in football
    It is not due to competition at QB
    It is not due to me being relegated to the stands and no longer being on the sideline
    It is not due to most of the silly rumors and conjecture that has been written here; let me add some of the speculation and assumptions are just way off base and quite frankly ignorant.
    There is something else you should all know I BLEED GREEN and WHITE and that will never change my love for Monrovia High is just as strong as ever and will never change. I wish Coach Stevens and the rest of the MHS football and baseball family nothing but the best and I’ll be rooting for them every week and every game. I have known Coaches on that MHS staff for almost 50 years and each of them know that I love and care for them and friends. (Donald Davis, Kevin Scott, Anthony Craft and Donnell Walls and Coach Tom) I love those gives and love what they do help build character in young men as well as football players. But they also know I LOVE MILES BRYANT MORE.

    In the Bryant house athletics is secondary and Academics reigns supreme. I’ll take and Ivy League education over a Pac 12 or SEC championship any day of the week. So please respect a father’s choice to do what he feels is in the best interest of his child. So keep speculating all you want but it is my job to put Miles in a position to be successful in LIFE. So Holla Back

    • Mean Joe Green

      First of all let me say that I understand a father’s defense of his child and the good name of his family. I wouldn’t put too much weight behind the hearsay, rumors and ramblings of us dumb bloggers. That is what we do here. A bunch of “know it alls” passing judgement on the abilities of someone else’s child. Nothing personal. I appreciate you taking the time to correct us and set the record straight. Not that any of us or this blog is worth it, but thanks anyway. Good luck with all your future endeavors, and I wish Miles the best of luck. The great work you did with his brother is a testament of where your family priorities are.

    • reality

      Two parts of this I buy Pops. One, you love your kid. Two, it’s none of my business.

    • AramT

      Well, good luck to the kid. Hope I’m writing about him for years to come!

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